#119; Made in New Jersey; Gubernatorial Candidates

This week with the long gubernatorial primary race ending on Tuesday a special edition of made in New Jersey more than marathon. Yeah. Good evening I'm Kent Monaghan And I'm Steve Taylor. On Tuesday Democratic and Republican voters will decide on candidates for the November elections. And when the votes for governor are counted it's possible even likely that the winners will be candidates rejected by three fourths of their own party members. That's because there are 13 Democrats and eight Republicans running and nobody needs a majority to win this more than marathon. The victors will be the two with the most votes even if it's only 25 percent of the total. New Jersey Nightly News has been profiling the candidates in recent

weeks. Tonight we repeat the profiles of those candidates we think are the front runners beginning with the Republicans. And later our political experts Tom O'Neill and John McLaughlin will join us for a last look at this crazy campaign. In a crowded field a varied political career can give one candidate a distinct advantage over his or her opponents. But public and gubernatorial hopeful Tom Kane believes that his statewide reputation will give him just that sort of advantage in this year's GOP primary. It was the last time you saw on television where the hero of the show was a politician. The Cain family has been active in New Jersey politics for nearly 200 years. They own the Elizabeth Town gas and water companies. Tom Kane was elected to the state assembly in 1967 and during his 10 years there served as majority leader minority leader and speaker. Today he is president of a real estate investment company. This isn't the first time Tom Kane has run for governor in 1977 he campaigned hard for the nomination only to

be defeated by Ray Bateman and the Republican primary. Cain resents charges that the 1977 defeat somehow makes him a political loser. Some of the people that have never even tried every run for election before that. First of all I am aware I have never lost to a Democrat. I've never lost a general election. I've run run run and run in good years three times there in the Watergate era. I won every time. Nobody running in this primary has a better record of winning general elections and I did and ran Gerald Ford successful in New Jersey campaign back in 1976 the former president has decided to repay by both endorsing and campaigning for him. Ronald Reagan easily carried New Jersey last year was active in that campaign as well. Well first of all. The Reagan cuts are going to be and the whole positive for New Jersey because it's exactly the kind of medicine the state needs because they're going to stimulate this economy

a dying economy in this state so we can create some jobs and get some more tax revenues this employ some people get them off welfare and off unemployment. So the overall idea of the Reagan cuts is going to be positive for the state trying to change around what I consider an anti job attitude in this state and attracting jobs and business to the state getting present businesses to expand businesses outside to come in businesses that are here not to leave. I mean that's that's one vital issue. Crime has got to be an issue we're increasing at a much faster rate than the national average particularly in terms of violent crimes. A new governor in the state is going to have an obligation in that area. I suppose. There are a whole range of issues that I call lack of planning. The crisis where we haven't built the necessary reservoirs and pipelines to the present crisis where we don't have the jails to put people of toxic waste crisis where we haven't done the work over the number of years to

use or a lack of planning in the state. And I'd really sum up and say that's the third issue is the lack of planning. Recently announced economic proposals would slash the corporate business tax percent to 6 percent the first year and four and a half percent the second year a corporate net worth tax cut the state sales tax from 5 cents to four cents on the dollar. Brendan Byrne is prohibited by law from seeking another term. But it's not surprising that Republican gubernatorial hopeful see the record of the Byrne administration as an important issue. I think he's concentrated on two or three problems and handle them but he's left so many unanswered so many questions and problems that have just Festen the economic problem is one of the crime problem is another one that is what the problem is with an efficient education which is going so wrong. It is a fourth There are so many areas that really he just hasn't paid attention to you hasn't appointed good administrators he hasn't had a control of his departments he's allowed government in a sense

to blow up 14000 government employees that went here eight years ago I don't think all of the necessary enemies of the these are the kind of things that I think Brendan Byrne has done which will go down badly on its record. Tom Cain's father served in the U.S. House of Representatives for 20 years. Family members have held other political offices as well. A distant relative William Livingston was New Jersey's first governor. Tom Kaine strongly believes he will be the next. Unlike some other GOP challengers Cain's television advertising campaign has begun only recently and just last week the Cain campaign sent out its first mass mailing a million and a half pieces. Cain staffers feel that their man is already known so they've decided to concentrate on wooing undecided voters in the final days of the campaign. We'll soon see how successful that strategy has been. Steve. Big cities are normally Democratic strongholds but our second Republican gubernatorial contender Mayor Lawrence Kramer has based his campaign on his record in storming and

holding the enemy camp. Cramer is an old hand at the art of campaigning. It was 1966 when he was first elected mayor of Paterson. That made Kramer rather unique. A big city mayor who is also a Republican. It is not enough that we talk about generalities. We've got to get it clearly. So it is like Paterson had been written off years before as Democratic territory but at city hall in Paterson Pat Cramer has occupied the mayor's office for 12 of the last 15 years. 1071 then Governor William Cahill asked Kramer at the service they commissioner of community affairs. He held that job until 1974. The same year he returned to Paterson and was once again elected mayor. A position Kramer feels gives him an advantage over his gubernatorial rivals.

We need to be in the crucible of experience there of those 12 13 years of administrative executive experience does reflect what the office of governor calls for. That's administrative responsibility not a legislator and Mayor as you know have to learn how to do with less save money. Legislators have learned how to spend money. There's a difference in terms of experience. The crema campaign was already in here last summer when the Paterson Mayor hosted a party for the New Jersey delegates to the Republican National Convention in Detroit. The party was part of an overall strategy to help Raima solidify his position with key Republican leaders. Among the advantages Pat Cramer enjoys as a professional well-organized campaign an effort which is well financed. Having collected more than three hundred fifty thousand dollars in private donations. But Cramer is sensitive to criticism by some that he is too liberal to be a Republican. Now let's be honest about it Republicans traditionally lose state elections by five or six

percent of the vote. That's a matter of record. On that same day the candidate loses the cities of the state by 92 percent. What about a candidacy that's had to win in the cities as a Republican. Demonstrating that you can get independents and Democrats to vote for you believe in Republican principles that make sense. We've got to do that on four occasions in a very Democratic city. People will vote for a Republican to be doing the job the role that President Reagan and his old New Jersey campaign organization decided to play in the gubernatorial primary could be an important factor. While the president will likely remain neutral some of his more prominent supporters are expected to take an active role. That may help the man who's been battling title of front runner in the crowded GOP primary. Well we're delighted by the fact that of course

support the bad in terms of announcements of major counties. Has demonstrated a real diversification of the kinds of counties that are supporting Cramer. We talk about up a say County which is a very urban county at the same time Salem County out there on the other end of the state a rural county in 1981. It's a question of durance able to keep up the grueling campaign and political savvy. Don Kramer is a political organization and Paterson has a reputation for getting out the vote. Cramer hopes to win that organization has to deliver on Election Day. That's because the success of the Paterson mayor's campaign depends upon a strong urban showing in counties like for say. Businessman Joseph O Sullivan as a political newcomer waging an aggressive campaign to become known and it seems to be working. Sullivan has loaned his campaign nearly a million dollars

of his own money and a recent Eagleton poll ranked him as best known among the Republicans running for governor. From the very start the 43 year old president of Beaumont industries and total has been a candidate who puts his money where his mouth is. His cocktail parties are lavish. His limousine looks like the governor's his television commercials are professional. And as producer Karl Sears learned he wants to run New Jersey like a business executive. The state's economy has changed the general climate for business. We have to do that. Number one by reducing taxes on business in my writing and regulations it makes sense rather than pester and badger industry. We have senators that will create interest in New Jersey and send signals from the state to business across the country that says we want you here. She wore out most businesslike approach to politics is raised a lot of money for his campaign. At his announcement party in West Orange support has contributed one

hundred fifty thousand dollars. Sullivan estimates a winning campaign will cost up to two million. He's turned down public financing but has pledged his own money if needed to win. The campaign seems as well organized as it is financed at headquarters in Fairfield the staff coordinate statewide activities. Sullivan is reaching the people through direct mailings telephone and field work town meetings and task forces on major state issues. He was the first candidate to use a television blitz to boost his name recognition. Did you see the article this morning's paper about the Republican primary. They said Tom Cain was running and I thought he was finished the last time came up make it. And you see him having a beer in the bar on day on. And I'm not sure what to make of that Cramer was Silencieux been getting good press. I'd like to get to know more about him. Give me something of the Republicans got their act together this year and put up a candidate like Bill Sullivan.

Sullivan says his agenda for progress would create jobs revitalize the cities and curb state powers over schools and business. The number of state employees would be affected by his management approach. Every kid has a job freeze for non-essential personnel at the state level. Let's try to whittle the state government down to size. Make it responsive to the people and to make it operate in such a way that's efficient. So it's people with expertise and know what they're doing must be placed in government rather than politicians who sometimes are given these appointments as rewards for past performance. Sullivan's past performance is one of corporate success. He lives with his wife and four sons in Essex Fells near the family business. He built Belmont Industries a company inherited from his father into a 25 million dollar a year manufacturer of plastics and textiles. Most of the products are used to make typewriter ribbons and for word processing applications. The company which is nonunion employees over 100 people though he advocates smaller

government. Sullivan is reluctant to expand the private sector's role in areas of social responsibility. Private sector jobs and employment. I mean not just there is we've got to revitalize and real industrial state otherwise the state will sink under their crushing weight. Well Solomon believes this is his year that voters will turn to a political outsider a new face to lead a New Jersey. Sullivan says he wants to run the state more like a business that's an idea he hopes the voters will buy on Tuesday. Political candidates traditionally try to build coalitions that cross philosophical lines. They often try to avoid labels like liberal or conservative. One exception to that rule is GOP gubernatorial hopeful James Watt work. For State Senator James.

Walberg his speech at an ABA Day ceremony was just another campaign stop. After finishing Wallwork was about to leave the auditorium of the veterans hospital in East Orange when a security guard rushed him backstage Wallwork was told a gunman had threatened to shoot him. The supposed attack generated a good deal of publicity. It also put a serious emotional strain on the senator and his family. Now Wallwork says he's been advised by the FBI that the so-called attack was a hoax. Jim Moore works headquarters in Melbourne just about everyone wants to forget the incident and get back to serious campaigning. Elected to the state assembly in 1963 Wallwork moved up to the state Senate. Four years later outspoken in his beliefs while Mark's opposition to the state income tax was legendary. Five years after that tax was finally enacted while work still isn't comfortable with it. Well I don't feel that the state income tax can be repealed because we're too far down the road. However I have proposed a 5 5 5 program which would be cutting the state personal income tax 5 percent a year over the next three

years that would blend in with President Reagan's 10 10 10 program and give to the taxpayers of New Jersey a good economic boost. I think it's absolutely essential that we cut government spending and we hold down taxes and we've got to fight inflation at the same level so it's very very important and I'm going to be pressing I think a 5 percent cut a year is realistic that would mean around a 50 million dollar a year tax cut in the in the income tax. Well work has mounted a major television campaign in order to build up his name recognition in the Senate to staff argues that these commercials stress their man's background as a leader and the critics because sometimes they don't seem to have a lot to do with New Jersey. After West Point he graduated first in his class at the Command and General Staff College just like Dwight David Eisenhower. New Jersey's Jim won't work principles courage common sense. Like other candidates in the GOP primary work a stressed big government and

crime is major campaign issues. He's built up a reputation as a party loyalist and that should help him with the GOP rank and file this year. But some opponents say Wallwork cannot win in November that he is too conservative as well as unknown and. General work can't match the big budget campaigns that some of the gubernatorial hopefuls have mounted this year. But among his supporters there is a real sense of optimism. They believe it won't work. Will be a major force in this year's governor's race. It's not too difficult to figure out where they get that optimism from. Polls have shown that the general public is not familiar with the candidates number one and number two with such a big field of eight Republicans and 14 Democrats the public is confused but I think that the the primary Republican voter will have separated and sorted everything out by primary day and I feel very optimistic and very confident that I will win the Republican primary and go on to win the November election.

Many political observers say they don't know what to make of all works campaign at candidate forums while other gubernatorial hopefuls are handing out literature. Jim network is busy handing out pot holders with his picture on them. But many conservatives like well work style and in a wide open primary it's tough to say just what effect his candidacy will have. There are of course four other Republican candidates running in the primary Hamilton Township Mayor Jack Rafferty advocates regen economics. State Senator Barry Parker has campaigned on the traditional Republican themes of limiting the scope of state government and maximizing local control. New York's north ward registered Private Detective Anthony NPR reality who has served two terms in the assembly and one in the state Senate is also on the ballot and former Public Utilities Commission a Richard McGlynn who recently filed suit against New Jersey public television when he was excluded from a survey of gubernatorial candidates brings the final tally on the Republican side to eight. And now the Democrats John Degnan is one of two ex burn cabinet officials trying for their boss's job. At 36 Degnan is the youngest of the gubernatorial candidates. This

week he was formally endorsed by Brendan Byrne although he was considered the governor's favorite all along since he resigned as attorney general to enter the Democratic primary last March Degnan has been trying to capitalize on his record as New Jersey's chief law enforcement officer. If you have any questions or any comments. Yes you're on the air with John Degnan final comment about RAW converter from my reading. The caller made a slip of the tongue calling John Degnan governor but it is a Slim Degnan in any of the other 23 candidates prophecy Degnan who resigned as governor Brendan Byrnes attorney general to run for his boss's job says he's fully prepared to assume the role of governor. He already has some of the trappings that go along with the job. Let's telephone something gave him the time served as acting governor then and then burns association goes way back back to their roots in West Orange is fifth although this is the first time DECnet has been a candidate.

He is no novice to politics. Your governor could be very right now for a number of years. They've been has a sense of humor but he staunchly defends his association with Byrd. Well you know. People often say they're too close to the governor and it's the basis on which that judgment is made is that Brendan Byrne cared about the pine lands and wanted to do something about it. And I did as well cared about fighting street crime and I wanted to do something about it and I did as well. Since the toxic waste was important issue facing New Jersey and I did as well. And I suppose I'm guilty of being too close. To the governor. But he says there are differences between them. They make different governors.

My style of leadership would be different. I would try to be a consensus. Leader of the state of New Jersey. I would try to use the democratic party in a way to forge a coalition around it and objectives that I would try to articulate as a candidate in a primary and in the general election and as a governor. And I think I would. I like to think of being tough and aggressive as he has been on many of the key issues that face in terms of when that is called for. When he was appointed attorney general Degnan was criticized for not having any prior law enforcement experience before taking that position he had worked as an assistant counsel to the governor and for a private law firm for three years. He was a Harvard Law School graduate life burn and clerk for Supreme Court justice gubernatorial candidate C is plagued by the fact that he has no established political base. He has never run for office before and his pool in the northern part of the state will be most likely fractured by the crowded field of candidates. In his role as attorney general David was perhaps best known for his strong stand on casino regulation the establishment of an interagency hazardous

waste strike force to deal with corruption in the toxic waste disposal industry. The deregulation of liquor. The fight against street crime and the controversial move of assigning state police to beef up the police forces in New Jersey cities all stances that made him more than his share of enemies. His will be a media campaign under the expert of media czar David Garth the man who was Brendan Burns media consultant back in 1977. I mean you're doing that right. Minutes tackling the issues and fielding questions at luncheons like this one in Atlantic City. I think the two key issues are probably street crime. The reality of crime and people's fear of crime. Because I think that. The absence of freedom is fear and if people lose confidence in government's ability to deliver as basic. An obligation as public safety and I think they'll begin to lose confidence in government's ability to do. Anything. The second main issue and I think it's tied directly to crime is the economy. I don't think the cities of New Jersey

will be revitalized until people make a voluntary choice again that the cities are a place in which it's healthy to either do business or even reside. And that won't happen until people feel secure in the environment and the whole panoply of tax incentive devices that all the candidates will talk about as a method to hype the economy. And to hasten the revitalization of the cities the increase use of the Port Authority an expanded agenda for the Economic Development Authority and a greater use of the Mortgage Finance Agency and neighborhood rehabilitation in my judgment will work. Until we make people feel safe in the cities. There are some differences between Degen and his mentor the governor for example Degen opposes Byrne's policy of redirecting economic growth to urban areas. Degen says that putting obstacles in the way of industries wishing to locate in suburb and rural Jersey will simply send those plans out of state. Despite such differences Burns endorsements and a big budget for television commercials are expected to help in the Democratic primary. Yet another gubernatorial hopeful is James Florio a four term congressman

from Camden County making his second try for the Democratic nomination although some polls show him leading the field Florio still must overcome the problem of so many undecided voters. James Florio addressing the Student Government Association at Trenton State College. Ironically that's where the congressman from the first congressional district got his first taste of politics. He ran for president of that body two decades ago and won. And he's been running ever since. One time high school dropout from Brooklyn Florio now 43 years old and the father of three teenagers has come a long way. He got his diploma while in the Navy then graduated from Trenton State college to graduate work at Columbia University and got a law degree from Rutgers Florio practiced law for two years but has been in politics ever since. First serving three terms in the state assembly and now is in his fourth term in the U.S. House of Representatives. First time for a congressional seat in

1972 ended in failure. So did his trial in 1977 for the Democratic gubernatorial nomination. But Gloria's popularity then and now in the seven southern New Jersey counties is in question. During his first run for the gubernatorial nomination he did well in South Jersey but only finished fourth in the Democratic primary. He did not do as well in central and northern New Jersey yet he is considered a front runner this year. In such a crowded field observe a say coming out of South Jersey with a strong showing maybe to propel him for the nomination. I think in terms of recognition. Everything is relative of course and I'm convinced that myself and perhaps one or two of the other candidates have start from the broadest base and they're all roughly equivalent. There are a number of candidates in the field who don't have that base and I'm sure they're gonna work very hard to try to expand that base. But I think I have developed some recognition around the state.

Florio has tackled some tough issues in Washington. He was author of federal legislation which led to the creation of the Pinelands commission. He sponsored the Superfund bill. Federal legislation signed by the president to establish a 1.6 billion dollar super fun cleaning up toxic waste all over the country. Florio who chairs the powerful House Subcommittee on Commerce and transportation has come out strongly against President Ronald Reagan's proposed budget cuts. Cuts he and his district have already felt the impact of such as a 68 million dollar cut in funding for a Veterans Administration Hospital in Camden. Candidate Florio says the first order of business is not to focus on issues but to focus on the governmental process. Government has to re-earn the people's trust he says before those governing can tackle specific problems. On the specifics of having to pick an area of concern I think economic development job opportunities I've always been a believer. In fact if you can

provide job opportunities for people put dollars in their pocket. Many of the other problems will start to work themselves out. The problem the congressman from Runnymede Camden County may face if elected is figuring out how to adapt to the move from the legislative branch to the executive branch. I suspect I don't see that much difference between the legislative process and the executive process particularly when you're at the point of being a governor or even a mayor of a city because you're talking about developing priorities and then carrying them out. Congressman in the course of developing a broader statewide image of Jim Florio had to say to the public in New Jersey Why Jim Florio should be governor. What are the reasons. I think if I can point to experience in my area I'm the first Democrat that was elected in my district in two years and I've been winning the district fairly substantially with the support of each and every one of my communities Democratic communities Republican communities. I like to think that I have a place as a person who is

pragmatically for who is not overly ideologically committed in the sense of automatic responses the problems of the Philadelphia Inquirer described as a flaming moderate which I I don't mind as a label of sorts. I think in terms of the people of the state of New Jersey want in their political leaders they want some degree of moderation. New Jersey has traditionally rejected extremes and it's my hope that that combination of a pragmatic moderate approach to problems which has resulted in some degree of success in Washington can be brought to bear through the course of the campaign but much more importantly brought to bear through the course of governing over the next four years. In the meantime Florio is making his name known statewide to radio and television commercials mostly in the New York market. That's because campaign workers say he has a high name identification in South Jersey. It's up north where people are not familiar with James Florio state.

Race is not supposed to count in modern political campaigns but race does said New York mayor Kenneth Gibson apart. He's the only black on the candidates list for the last decade Gibson has run Jersey's largest city with mixed success. Ken Gibson says his is the most difficult public service job in the state. Gibson is running for governor after 10 years as mayor of New Jersey's largest city. When elected in 1970 many observers say he turned Newark around by easing racial tensions by restoring public trust in government. And by securing millions of dollars in federal and state aid for the city. Four years later he won reelection with 54 percent of the vote. And more than 68 percent. In 1978. The bulletproof glass seemed to symbolize the problems while improved were far from over. But by then Gibson had built a national reputation as a spokesman for urban America. He served as president of the U.S. Conference of Mayors in 1077.

Washington politicians from congressmen to presidents. Listen to him. But political friends sometimes disagree. I certainly would not use my political power to endorse a policy. Also the cuts in spending for human resources. Human can't as President Carter has chosen to do. Former President Carter now seems a soft touch compared to President Reagan who proposes much deeper cuts in federal support to the states. As Governor how would Gibson cope with federal cutbacks. There are some programs that just can't be stopped. So whether all the federal money disappears or not you've got I think some of our programs that are staffed by senior workers. Those programs will have to be continue Campbell whatever they have to be continued. Therefore either the cities will have to raise revenue. Boy my opinion the state will have

to raise the revenue to make sure that those centers don't close under Gibson's plan the state would raise revenues if necessary through some higher taxes. Our tax package is a graduated income tax. This is not a new proposal on my part by the way I've been talking about this for 15 years before I became mayor city of New York. We talked about the fact that we needed to have a graduated income tax plan after the national income tax. I think the other has to be an equal as property tax. It would also remove or make more flexible state capped restrictions on municipal spending. Television commercials reinforce his basic message. I'm running and I need your help. Now is the time you can make the people of New Jersey will never have another opportunity like this. Now is the time Gibson for governor.

Campaign headquarters in New York is tapping a political base as big as any Democratic front runner. Twenty five percent of the state's registered Democrats are black or Hispanic. With their votes. And those of suburban liberals could win the primary. While the economy's health has been unsteady. The people's health has improved remarkably. Gibson considers this his biggest achievement. The Neighborhood Health Center. Concept network which is operational now is I think the greatest thing for me. And we have improved the quality of health care. We have to improve the quality of health for many citizens in a city and. You can measure that like to measure roads or bridges or buildings but I think it's to me more important than anything that we've we've done. Critics say the delivery of New York City services is mediocre. The police response time is slow. Garbage pickup and adequate. Gibson has done better managing city finances. When he took office New York had a 65 million dollar projected deficit. Today the city has an improved bond rating and a 20

million dollar projected surplus. The 48 year old former engineer is methodical by training and his moderate style has many admirers. At the same time. Detractors say he lacks creative leadership and a risk taking spirit. Gibson's campaign presents him as a capable and experienced manager of a city plagued with economic woes. Gibson is hoping that his mixed success in New York and high name recognition will help him at the polls on Tuesday. Joseph Maher Leno has something of a point when he talks about the burn Leno administration during the last eight years my Leno has been the chief sponsor of much of the burning ministrations most important legislation. Although Byrne has recently endorsed the candidacy of former Attorney General John Degnan really no is going after the same constituency that twice won the governorship. I mean come on. Thanks Senator Joseph P. Merlino president of the New Jersey Senate and by

New Jersey lost second in line of command to the governor. There's no learning process for Joe. I know where all of buttons are. I know all the things you have to do. I don't have a hotline that you get with the state police directly from the state police in case of emergency. I know it has to be done and they know it. And the governor knows that that's why he feels free to travel as much as he does because I think he feels confident that I'm here watching this door and it's a job Merlino hopes to keep Leno is no newcomer to Trenton or state politics. He's the first man since 1856 to serve four consecutive terms as Senate president. He has been a member of the Senate since 1971 and has also served as majority leader and assistant majority leader. He chairs a powerful Legislative Services Commission and has been chairman of the Ways and Means Committee and joint Appropriations Committee. Prior to his time in the Senate where Leno served two terms in the General Assembly he was also Trenton city attorney and a mercer county assistant prosecutor.

He is senior partner at a Trenton law firm really knows legislative record is impressive. He has sponsored 120 major bills some of which he has included in his television commercials. You know my name. I passed the hundred twenty pieces of major legislation including a law allowing seniors of any prescription for $2. Also I'm the original sponsor of the pilot and Protection Act and I just introduced a bill to restrict the sale of the gun. I'm the president of New Jersey State Senate and often serve as acting governor. And with your help we can do more for governor Democrat. Don't leave New Jersey without the endless governor. Yet despite flashy television commercials where Leno faces the same problem as other South Jersey candidates he's not well-known outside his power base. People may not know his name in the northern part of the state even though they may know about his bills and the programs those bills have created. Observers say for a lot of people generally know is a good second

choice in a race where running second in a number of counties just might swing the election. As it stands now Merlino His name is most often associated with the controversial handgun bill calling for a ban on the sale importation and possession of handguns. I'm here today to explain why. Senate Bill 31 16 is necessary a bill that has become a tragically timely what happened to the president on the streets of Washington. I think it highlights the need for this kind of legislation and I would hate to think that I would need that kind of an emotional and tragic event to promote the handgun Bill Molino was known as a liberal at a time when conservatism is in vogue yet he is also a politician from the old school. The secret to success in this. Don't forget how you started your start you're right

he's a man who hates labels. I've been called a lot of things some which we can say here are. Label doesn't affect my desire to do what I think is best. The more I try to do as best for most of the people who stayed in New Jersey I don't recognize any trend of any kind. My efforts in 14 years in the legislature particularly the last eight have been directed to be of service to the great great majority of the people of this state. I will. I've served that way. I campaigned that way and I will serve as governor that way regardless of labels. Really no may believe in destiny. The house here is family wife Molly and five children ranging in age from 15 to 30 one have lived in for the past 15 years is the same house former governor Richard Hughes occupied before being elected governor. Leno is expected to have the most expensive media campaign of all the Democratic candidates two hundred and sixty thousand dollars for radio and television commercials. But

Leno's most serious competition he feels is Congressman James Florio when he is criticized for winning the support of the National Rifle Association state. Robert Rowe is the other congressman seeking the Democratic Party's nomination for governor. Rove has been outspoken lately in his criticism of the Reagan administration's budget cuts and in his opposition to public financing of primary campaigns. He alone among the Democrats has refused public funding. For 12 years Rowe has been a Democratic congressman from the 8th District. He appears to be as popular back home as he has been effective in Washington. And he hopes to use that political record to help win the Democratic primary in June. I've been fighting like hell for jobs for our people they call me the big spender in some areas or whatever. But I'll tell you what I believe in trade you're out of work and we brought 100 million dollars into this state and we build schools and libraries and sewers and so forth. We put people to work.

We were always good at campaigning and getting things done. In fact he's made a successful career of politics. The 57 year old bachelor has spent 26 years and elected or appointed public office. Back in the 60s he served in governor's cabinet a state commissioner of conservation and economic development. Before that he was a Passaic County freeholder and mayor of Wayne Township where he was born and now lives were not in Washington. At a recent congressional hearing Rowe challenge budget director David Stockman's proposed to cut off of the Federal Economic Development Administration because of road disputes Stockman's claim that the Northeast will not suffer more than other regions from threatened federal cutbacks.

They're not putting it into relationship to the needs of people. And I'm telling you that the Northeast is going to be hit the hardest of any place in this entire nation. Mark my words that's what's going to happen this week. New Jersey's next governor must deal with a changing federal state relationship. Rowe believes that federal block grants could give flexibility but they greatest state austerity is necessary for at least a year. But he is not giving up without a fight. As chairman of the house water resources subcommittee brought congressional hearings to drought plagued New Jersey where he spoke to reporters. If we're going to clean up the pollution and take into consideration that some 60 percent of the water in the Passaic River is really renovated was the federal government goes into major rescissions. It's one of those who control money to improve the situation with me taking a giant step backwards. Rowe also wants tougher criminal justice and even has his name on the new courthouse and Paterson's public safety complex a project built with federal public works money which he

sponsored. This is his second bid to be governor. After losing to Brendan Byrne in the 76 primary election. Campaign headquarters in Little Falls as well organized for this year's effort. But controversy surrounds some staff members. A recent state commission of investigations report implicated political consultant Dan Horgan and an alleged pay off scheme unrelated to the campaign. Rowe has made no comment. Finance chairman Peter Levine bankrolled Rose 76 gubernatorial campaign. Some critics say that Rose reliance on Levine's money last time helped lead to the current campaign finance law. Rosie has that charge is nonsense. And made it when he announced his candidacy that he will not accept public financing in the primary as the only Democratic candidate so far to refuse public campaign money. It's got to be wrong. To permit persons to receive $600000

of taxpayers money to run a political campaign and a partisan issue. Having now 14 Democrats and 12 Republicans taking that kind of money when they can go ahead and go through the drill and the very last day before election on June the 2nd they can withdraw and not have to pay one cent back. Many observers consider Barbro to be a front runner in the governor's race. After many years of public service the different levels of government get to be the state's chief executive and sums up his philosophy. I don't consider myself to be anything less of them. The human instinct politician if you like where people come first and people got to have jobs to survive. Campaign workers have engaged in an extensive telephone campaign and during this final week before the primary well planned to spend $100000 on television advertising one of the more colorful entrants in the Democratic primary race is Jersey City Mayor Thomas Efik Smith Tammi Smith helps a blue collar conservative Democrats and describe

old southerners folks who have left the cities but remember Smith from the time they lived in urban areas will help elect him governor. And my guest Thomas mayor of Jersey City seeking the Democratic gubernatorial candidate for governor. We have lots of calls still waiting let's go right back to the phones. Tommy Smith is proud of his Jersey City roots. He grew up in a jersey city controlled by Frankie considered the most powerful political boss to ever rule Hudson County. But it was under the reign of Hake successor John Kennedy that Smith became politically active. He served as a campaign manager for Kenny Merrill candidate Thomas Whalen and was later made City Clerk. He held that position for eight years through the administration of Mayor Paul Jordan. In 1977 Smith won the Merrills seat and a landslide election defeating the Jordon candidate. It has been a popular mayor. His work in improving housing and his concern for Jersey City is unquestioned. Although not a political boss out of the Haig mold

is a power to reckon with in Hudson County. His fundraising success alone has brought him quite a bit of publicity. Wow. I'm not saying this is a serious contender for the gubernatorial nomination. He was a contender of a different story back in June 1979 when he took on then heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali to benefit the Jersey City Medical Center. It's a publicity event. People still talk about the contest is only overshadowed in the public's mind by the relationship with the waterfront mongrel. A heartfelt political endorsement. I mean really that's not the Explorer the dog. When I got shot down by the docks my life was saved by the mayor Tommy Smith. We've been together ever since. When Tommy moves around the city he gets close enough to people and problems to get things done. In my opinion New Jersey

needs a guy like this. That's Tommy Smith Democrat. However it is not just relying on Henry Hudson's endorsement to propel him to the nomination. Also seeking endorsements from big city mayor Marion Barry politically Thomas Smith and Wally field have always worked together. In June however she was elected Democratic Party chairman instead of Smith. And earlier this year she'll announced he would run for Jersey City mayor without first checking with Smith. A move some observers say for Smith to throw his hat into the gubernatorial race. But Smith insists that his political future is not directly tied to a successful Maryl run. I honestly think that I'm going to stand on Tommy Smith's wreckage a disappointing showing in Jersey City is narrow primary is forcing the smith political machine to fragment its promotion efforts.

But what this candidate's message is the overriding issues in this campaign that we had to select one single area that we should be concerned with its economic development and I say that because there is such a relationship and as you well know a correlation between crime and economic development. Clarence Darrow said you don't find a kind of gays and they and the Rockefellers mugging anybody. I'm never going to condone that kind of a thing but nonetheless his point being that you know if people don't have money in their pockets there's a tendency for them to think another term bravado aside the candidate is not well-known outside his home base of Hudson County. I've been very much pointed to a very strong advocate of my constituency and I think that's what New Jersey needs. Meanwhile the outcome of the May 12 Jersey City mayoral primary may have had more of an impact on Smith's chances than the candidate admits. Walter she'll manage only 34 percent of the vote despite backing from Smith and the Hudson County Democratic organization. She'll is now involved

in a runoff election eroding Party support from Smith's gubernatorial bid for Tommy Smith that could be bad news. But Democratic Assemblywoman Barbara McConnell is hoping a little good luck will move her out in front on Tuesday. And as McConnell who has served two terms in the state assembly thinks her chances of winning the Democratic primary are good. If women voters stick together and the other candidates knock each other senseless former Human Services Commissioner and Klein is making her second bid for governor. She also ran in 1973. STATE SENATOR PAT Dodd is hoping his role in the Pinelands Protection Act and an important hazardous waste disposal bill will impress voters. State Senator William Hamilton is campaigning on his leadership capabilities after 10 years in both the Senate and the assembly. A former schoolteacher and one term State Senator Herbert Bueller of Monmouth County is also on the ballot along with Stella Mann of North Caldwell and Rosemont yack of union that brings the grand total of Democratic candidates to 13.

Never before in New Jersey have so many men and women run for governor. We've been trying to analyze the race week by week with the help of our peerless pundits John McLaughlin of New Jersey Public TV's McLaughlin speed and Tom O'Neil of the magazine New Jersey reporter. And we're looking for a little more punditry on these last couple of days before the race what are we going to see happening John in the last hours of this campaign. Well we we're going to see God help us all even more television commercials on the right. In terms of us and I think that the undecided vote which is already enormous is going to get even more still because I think that voters who will begin to move from candidates they perceive as not electable. To candidates they think can actually go out and won it. And in that process are going to have to go through a whole. Another round of making up their minds like what happened with John Anderson support in the presidential race last year and George Wallace he's. People. In the final analysis really don't

want to throw away their votes. But in a race like this how can they tell who to take their votes in so it is probably somebody that's got to hit somebody and I cracked. And as John said if the if the race were held today undecided women and what's going to happen this weekend is that the deals that are not being made between the candidates are going to be made in the voters minds that is the voter was going to say I'd like to vote for X. He's Don't comes from my county. He says the kind of things I like but he just doesn't have a chance. I'm going to vote for Y instead. You'll notice Brendan Brendan people been going to almost everybody in the Democratic race saying won't you drop out in favor of John Dignan. Nobody has said yes and other people actually wasn't everybody but they hit. Mayor Gibson and Senator Hamilton and Mayor Smith and I think indirectly that and Klein and everybody told them where they could put their suggestions and the governor did a lot of missionary work in North Hudson also hoping to persuade. Yeah I was going to I want to ask you about that he's he's going through Hudson County at the end of the week in the middle of the week.

What is he doing what you're promising to people. What what could he possibly be doing there. Well if it was a thing of value it would be a crime and that. It's not what I mean I think that. It's just trying to sell them when it was on the outskirts of the Hudson is an absolute zero now no one knows what's going to happen. Smith thing isn't it all coming to trouble right was moving and so while it's up for grabs I think the governor went up there and said Look. Thinking when this thing broke can't Smith can't jump aboard and something nice will happen to be any good. In fact an election full of very strange sights. One of the strangest in my mind was John Dowd former attorney general who has made a fetish of his honestly going to state senator Billy Musto under federal indictment to see most of those supporting the thugs. Gray must remember time that an indictment is not a conviction. That's what the attorney that's what the former attorney general pointed out was that I saw different elections just getting back to the race. Let's let's talk about circumstances here are a couple the candidates real fast we're going to take for

Robert Rowe to win this race. John. I got a terrific race which organization I just tell you one quick story they had a convention here in Mercer County the Federation of senior citizens. There were four candidates there were not among them. But when these old timers walked into the gymnasium that Mercer County Community College there were twelve hundred fans placed on the seats Robert a row from the senior citizens as somebody how this occurred and she said I don't I would like to place at 7:30. What we got here at 7:30 this morning there were all the fans and I have to keep that organization together for handling. Yeah and it's a good one and it's just growing stronger in Hudson County about John Degnan. John. To win needs to prove that a media campaign can work he is at the polar extreme opposite from Barbara whose depend they got a grassroots organization Degnan has no grassroots organization he has a superb set of TV advertisements. He has some interesting endorsements the most interesting from Brendan Byrne they have weight that will carry on.

Those will have to do their job. Yeah but Jim Florio who just has to hold on. He's got to hold on to a very good base and South Jersey and pick up another four or five percentage points. He's got to do much better in northern New Jersey in less time. You have U.S. Senator Murray Leno having a shot at this. A very outside shot I think is if everybody ties the front runners. That's the Florio in a row. And then that that job might just squeeze it. But he's run a good campaign and I think another in the rest of the names there Gibson there Smith Senator Dodd. So when McConnell and Klein put in Hamilton her bill or Rose money I can just tell them and it looks like the top of the list Merican gives his supporters don't like it when you ask them How is he going to do with the black vote. But in fact that's what it's realistic to look at the black vote in the state is about 10 percent. And even though a Democrat needs only about one hundred twenty five thousand votes to win in this election 10 percent of the total vote is not enough. You see anybody else from that list and.

If any of those other candidates were to win time would be very surprised. Let's take for Republicans now Tom Kaine Pat Cramer O'Sullivan and Jim will work. Where they need to win quickly Tom Kenniff been the front runner since the beginning and he has to hold on to what he has if he hasn't already lost in the considerable pot shotting which he's getting now. He's had a very rough time for some of the wall were very rough. Kramer started out fast as he held up. Kramer has not held up because he was mounting an old fashioned kind of campaign that depended upon getting a line in 11 or 12 counties and they took the line away from him but there is a way you can win. There are three people in this race the other three front runners Wallwork chain and Sullivan are trying very hard to get as far over in the right lane as they can to out conservative one another if they did me up the conservative vote a moderate like Krammer conceivably could walk away with the prize. And both sort of another media campaign. Well he has spent 2 million dollars which is not such a lot of money. I hope this whole primary campaign is fantastic is going to cost $13 a vote based on very

well he's got a name which is easily memorized. He's likable. Sure I could go on about Jim Overton. But what work has always been my long shot I think of Republican primary you look at the guy who is the most conservative and who can persuade voters that he that he is the most conservative and I think what works on a fairly good job of doing that. We own it. He also has the most impressive endorsement the campaign from Dwight David Eisenhower. Well that's two former presidents with one of them came to New Jersey to do it. President Eisenhower unfortunately was not able to come. John McLaughlin Tom O'Neil thanks very much you both be working on election night and we'll have you back next week and see how we'll do it if they can't. Coming into this final weekend before the primary surveys have shown as many as half the voters in both parties still have not made up their minds many choices may be made after this Sunday's League of Women Voters candidate forum. When all 21 contenders will gather on the records for Brunswick Bush campus the marathon debate expected to run three hours will begin at 2 o'clock and both 13 and New Jersey Public Television will

broadcast the entire program. And yet let's take a minute to go over the absentee voting procedures if you were planning on voting absentee by mail it's too late because those ballots have to be received by the county board of elections seven days before the election. However on Monday you can vote absentee in person if Tuesday is a day when you can't get to the polls. Go to the county. The clerk's office up until 3 o'clock on Monday afternoon and you can vote absentee in person if you're ill and you can't get to the county clerk's office you can send someone with written authorization to that office to get your absentee ballot. Bring it home you vote and take it back and that's how you can do it and I hope they can remember all that. But I think the easier way is to vote in person and that can be done on Tuesday all over the state. The polls are open from 7:00 in the morning until 8:00 in the evening and that should give everybody a chance to get out and vote. And remember there's more to this election than the governor's race which we've concentrated on tonight but all 120 members of the legislature one way or another on that ballot and quite a few local races are up for grabs as well. It's an important election in New Jersey important

experiment also in electoral politics and the financing of campaigns. So we'll all be very interested turns out. And that's made in New Jersey for this week. I'm cannot Ahan that I'm Steve Taylor tonight. Minute presentation of.

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