PBS NewsHour; April 28, 2020, 6:00pm-7:00pm PDT

- Captioning sponsored by - NEWSHOUR PRODUCTIONS, LLC - >> Woodruff: GOOD EVENING. - I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. - ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT: - ES THE UNITED STATES CROSS - ONE MILLION CONFIRMED CASES, AND - CONGRESS TRIES AGAINEM THE - ECONOMIC PAIN, WHERE IS ALL OF - THE RECOVERY MONEY GOING? - I SPEAK WITH SENATE MINORITYHU - LEADER SCHUMER ABOUT - WASHINGTON'S RESPONSE. - SPEAKING WITH RELIGIOUS LEADERS - ABOUT MAINTAINING HOPE IN A TIMF - EAR AND UNCERTAINTY. - PLUS, CORONAVIRUS ANDCY - CONSPI - AS COVID-19 SPREADS ACROSS THEOF - GLOBE, A WAVISINFORMATION - FOLLOWS, MAKING THE PANDEMIC - DEADLIER AND HARDER TO FIGHT. - >> WE ARE VERY POOR AT CRITICAL - THINKING. - WE ARE VERY POOR AT S.ALUATING - SOUR - ANTHAT MAKES US VERY - VULNERABLE TO THE SHEER AMOUNT - OF DISINFORMATION THAT IS

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- S - >> TOGRAM WAS MADE - POSSIBLE BY THE CORPORATION FOR - PUBLIC BROADCASTING. - AND BY CONTRIBUTNS TO YOUR PBS - STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKE YOU. - THANK YOU. - >> Woodruff: PARTS OF THE - COUNTRY ARE MOVING AHEAD TONIGHT - WITH PNS TO GET UP AND - RUNNING. - OTHERS ARE WTING AND WATCHING - THE PANDEMIC'S PROGRESS. - MEANWHILE, THE U.SCROSSES - ANOTHER SOBERING MARKER-- OVER - ONE MILLION INFECTIONS, D - NEARLY 58,000 DEATHS. - AMNA NAWAZ BEGINS WITH THIS - REPORT. - >> Nawaz: SIGNS ALONG FLORIDA'S - BEACHES NOW WARN PEOPLE TO STAY - AWAY. - BUT THOSE COULD SO CHANGE. - THE SUNSHINE STATE IS JUST ONEOF - GROWING NUMBER OF STATES - LAYING PLANS TO RE-OPEN - BUSINESSES, AND EASE - RESTRICTIONS. - NINE STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY - HAVE ALREADY BEGUN LIFTING - LOCKDOWN MEASURES, WITH EVEN - MORE SET TO EXPIRE SOON-- ALL IN - A PUSH TO RESUSCITATE STAGNANT - ECONOMIES.

- FLORIDA GOVERNOR RON DeSANTIS - MET WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP AT THE - WHITE HOUSE TODAY.'T - >> I DHINK IT'S GOING TO - BE MSUREAND OUGHUL, T - OII THI INK NGTHATWE AS PEK OPLE - DIFFERENT THINGS CAN HAPPEN - SAFELY, I THINK THE CONFIDENCEOR - FAILL GO UP. - >> Nawaz: LATER IN THE - AFTERNOON, THE PRESIDENTMA - DELIVERED S ON THE FEDERAL - PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM, OR - P.P.P., AIMED AT BOOSTING SMALLS - BUSIES WITH LOW-INTEREST - LOANS. - >> WE'RE PROCESSING LOANS ATVE - PACE NEVER ACH BEFORE, AND - SO FAR WE HAVE PROCESSED AN - AMAZING 50,000 LOANS TOTALING - OVER $50 BILLION. - >> - >> Nawaz: THE PROGRAM'S FIRST - ROUND OF FUNDING OF $349 BILLION - QUICKLY RAN OUT WITHIN TWO - WEEKS. - AND THE SECOND ROUND, A 10 - BILLION EFFORT LAUNCHED THIS - WEEK, HAS BEEN PLAGUED WITH - TECHNICAL PROBLEMS. - LEAVING SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS - LIKE JOE FIELD, WHO OWNS A - TO GET FOR WEEKS.OOK STE,YI - THWI - >> FUNDING IS GOING TO HELP PAY - FOR SOME OF THE EXPENSES THAT - WE'VE INCURRED THROUGH THIS, BUS

- OT GOING TO GET ANYWHERE - CLOSE TO PAYING FOR ALL THE - LOSSES. - AT DOZENS OF LARGE, PUBLICLY-THD - TRADED C - OMPANIES WERE GRANTED - FUNDS, SOME HAVE STEPPED FORWARD - TO RETURN THE MONEY-- INCLUDING - BIG-NAME BRANDS LIKE SHAKE - SHACK, RH'S CHRIS STEAK HOUSE, - ANTHE LOS ANGELES LAKERS, WHO - RECEIVED MORE THAN $4.5 MILLION - IN LOANS. - SOME STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS - ARE SAYING, FUNDING IDE, - COMPREHENSIVE TESTING ACCESS IS - THE BEST INSURANCE POLICY FOR - SUCCESSFUL RECOVERY. - NEW YORK CITY MAYOR BILL De - BLASIO. - >> ORIGINAL SIN HERE WAS THE - QUESTION OF THE FEDERAL - GOVERNMENT'S ROLE IN TESTING. - BECAUSE WE HAD A CHANCE HERE--WE - AD A CHANCE TO CONTAIN THIS, - BUT WE COULDN'T SEE IT. - WE COULDN'T SEE IT WITHOUT - TESTING. - >> Nawaz: TESTING FOR THE NOVEL - CORONAVIRUS REMAINS LOW, EVEN AS - THE OFFICIAL LIST OF SYMPTOMSPA - S. - THE C.D.C. FIRST LISTED COVID - SYMPTOMS AS HIGH FEVER, - THE AGENCY HAS NOW ADDED - POSSIBLE SYMPTOMS INCLUDING - CHILLS, MUSCLE PAIN, HEADACHES,

- SORE THROAT, AND LOSS OF TASTE - OR SMELL. - THE DD.C. HAS ALSO RECOMMENDE - WEARING MASKS IN PUBLIC WHERE - SOCIAL DISTANCING IS DIFFICULT, - A GUIDELINE VICE PRESIDENT PENCE - IGNORED WHILE TOURINE MAYO - CLINIC TODAY. - THAT LED TO A TWEET FROM THE - CLINIC, CLARIFYING IT HAD - "INFORMED THE VICE PSIDENT OF - THE MASKING POLICY PRIOR THIS - ARRIVAL," A TWEET THEY LATER - DELETED. - THE VICE PRESIDENT LATER - ADDRESSED THE ISSUE. - >> AS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE - UNITED STATES, I'M TESTED FOR - THE CORONAVIRUS ON A REGULAR - BASIS. - SINCE I DON'T HAVE THE - CORONAVIRUS, I THOUGHT IT WOULD - BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TOE - BE HERE ANBLE TO SPEAK TO - THESE RESEARCHERS, THESE - INCREDIBLE HEALTH CARE - PERSONNEL. - >> Nawaz: MEANWHILE, EUROPEAN - LEADERS EAGER TO REIGNITE THEIR - ECONOMIES BEGAN LAYING PLANS. - FRANCE TODAY ANNOUNCED A PROCESS - TO BEGIN EASING RESTRICTIONS BY - FIRST RE-OPENING SHOPS, STARTING - MAY 11. - IN PORTUGAL, THE PRIME MINISTERD - SIGNHAT THEIR LOCKDOWN - WOULD END SOON. - BUT FOR MANY WORKERS AROUND THEO

- D, RE-OPENED ENOMIES GIVE - LITTLE RELIEF. - IN BANGLADESH TODAY, GARMENT - S, A PILLAR OF THE - COUNTRY'S ECONOMY, WERE BACK IN - CROWDED FACTORIES, MING - PRODUCTS FOR GLOBAL BRANDS LIKE - GAP, ZARA, AND H&M. - >>EtrslF WRE W BILLAH SAYS HE - WORKING, AND DON'T HAVHIANY - PROTECTI WORKING - ALONGSIDE HUNDREDS OF OTHER - WORKERS? - CAN'T WE GET SOME SECURITY?IF - DOES OURHAVE NO VALUE? - >> Nawaz: CAUGHTN THE MIDDLE - OF A PUSH TO SAVE ECONOMIES, AND - A PANDEMIC THAT CONTINUES TO - CLAIM LIVES. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I' - AMNA NAWAZ. - dr WDAoo AY,uff:TOLSO - PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID HE WILL - SIGN AN ECUTIVE ORDER - CLASSIFYING MEAT PROCESSORS AS - AN ESSENTIAL INDUSTRY, TO KEEP - THEM OPEN AND AVOID SHORTAGES. - SEVERAL MAJOR MEAT-PACKING - AND UNIONS PROTESTED THE DOWN, - PRESIDENT'S MOVE. - IN THE DAY'S OTHER NEWS, THE - U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES - WILL NOT RETURN TO WASHINGTON - NEXT WEEK AS PLANNED.

- DEMOCRATIC LEADERS SAY THE - U.S. CAPITOL PHYSICIAN IS - WARNING THAT CORONAVIRUS RISKS - ARE STILL TOO GREAT. - THE HOUSE CURRENTLY HAS 429 - MEMBERS, WITH SIX VACANCIES. - THE REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED - SENATE, WITH 100 MEMBERS, HAS - BEEN ORDERED BACK INTO SESSION - ON MONDAY. - IN LEBANON, VIOLENNEW PROTESTS - HAVE BROKEN OUT IN THE CITY OF - ICIPOLI, AS THE PANDEMIC - INTENSIFIES ECON - DESPERATION. - RIOTING BEGAN OVERNIGHT, WITH - HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE SETTING BANKS - ON FIRE AND THROWING STONES AT - SOLDIERS. - THIS MRNORNING, CROWDS MEDN - A LLED DURING THE RIOTS, - AND LATER, MORE BANKS WERE SET - ON FIRE. - >> ( translated ): WHAT HAPPENED - YESTERDAY WAS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE - THNGRY, AND EY ARE EXPRESSING - INR .NT - GOVERNND THE AUTHORITIES - ACCUSE PROTESTERS OF BEING - TERRORISTS - THEY DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THE - PEOPLE AND THEIR PAIN. - >> Woodruff:S TE PNBESTGA - OVER POVERTY AND PONITICAL

- CORRUP - BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, THE 2016 - DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE, - HILLARY CLINTON, ENDORSED THIS - BIDEN. - SHE IS THE LATEST PARTY LEADER - TO TAKE THAT STEP. - MEANWHILE, OHIO HELD ITS - PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY TODAY, - MOSTLY BY MAIL-IN BALLOTING. - IT WAS DELAYED FROM MARCH, BY - THE PANDEMIC. - THE PANDEMIC IS ALSO FORCING A - BIG CHANGE AT THE OSCARS. - ORGANIZERS ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT - MOVIES THAT DEBUT THIS YEAR ON A - STREAMING SERVICE WILL BE - ELIGIBLE FOR AWARDS, EVEN IF - THEY NEVER SCREEN IN THEATERS. - IT IS A ONE-YEAR CHANGE ONLY, - FORCED BY THE CLOSURE OF MOST - THEATERS NATIONWIDE. - A FEDERAL APPEALS COURT HEARD - ARGUMENTS TODAY OVER A - CONGRESSIONAL SUBPOENA FOR - FORMER WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL - DON McGAHN. - HOUSE DEMOCRATS WANT HISTESTIMOT - TRUMP TRIED TO IMPEDE THE - RUSSIA INVESTIGATION. - THE WHITE HOUSE ARGUES THAT - THE

- THE DISPUTE. ROLE IN - AND ON WALL STREET, STOCKS - FAILED TO KE A RALLY GOING - TODAY. - THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE - LOST 32 POINTS TO CLOS - 24,101.AQ - THE NAELL 122 POINTS, AND - THE S&P 500 SLIPPED 15 POINTS. - STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR: - AS AMERICANS REEL FROM THE - FINANCIAL FALLOUT, WHERE HAS - ALL OF T FEDERAL RECOVERY - MONEY GONE? - THE PANDEMIC AOAD-- HOW - NECOVID D-19W UNDER CONTROL. - KEEPING THE FAITH-- SPEAKING - WITH RELIGIOUS LEADERS DURING A - TIME OF SHARED FEAR. - PLUS, THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES - THAT HAVE FOLLOWED COVID-19, AND - WHAT CAN BE DONE TO STOP THEM. - >> Woodruff: IT IS NOT A - SURPRISE, BUT THE DEMAND FOR

- LOANS AND GRANTS FOR SMALLER - BUNESSES MADE AVAILABLE - THROUGH THE FEDERAL PAYCHECK - PROTECTION PROGRAM REMAINS - EXTREMELY HIGH. - EVEN SO, AS PRESIDENT TRUMP - UTED THE PROGRAM TODAY, MUCH - OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF THAT - MONEY HAS STIRRED UP ANGER. - USD, AS LISA DESJARDINS TELLS - ROTRLLOUBLOFES.OU PT - >> Desjardins: JUDY, YESTERDAYS - E OPENING OF A SECOND - ROUND OF APPLICATIONS FOR THE - MONEY.T, - T WAS MARRED BY GLITCHES, - DELAYS AND MISSED OPPORTUNITIES. - THE FIRST BATCH OF FUNDS WAS - USED UP IN JUST TWO WEEKS. - NOW, SOME OF THE MONEY WENT TO - LARGER COMPANIES, EVEN THOUGH - THE INTENT WAS TO HELLER - AND MEDIUM-SIZED BUSINESSES. - WE CHECKED BACK WISS SEVERAL - BUSIWNERS WHO WERE HAVING - TROUBLE GETTG THESE LOANSRA - ANYTHING HAS CHANGOUT IF - >> I AM JENNIFER MYERS PULIDORE, - AND I AM THE OWN OF MYERS OF - KESWICK, AND IT IS LOCATED IN - GREENWICH VILLAGE IN NEW YORK - CITY. - IT IS A SPECIALTY BRITISH FOOD - STORE.D

- I T GET THE LOAN THE FIRST - ROUND AND WAS TOLD TO APPLY - AGAIN IN THE SECOND ROUND, WHICH - I DID ON FRIDAY. - >> MY NAME IS JUSTIN MOORE - I AM THE GENERAL MANAG OF - UNCLE BOBBY'S COFFEE AND BOOKS - IN PHILADELPHIA. - WE WERE ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES - THAT WERE ABLE TO GET OUR - APPLICATIONS APPROVED DURING - THAT FIRST ROUND OF FUNDING, AND - WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED OUR FUNDS - LATE LAST WEEK. - >> MY NAME IS CHRIS GOSLIN, AND - I HAVE A SMALL HAIR SALON - LOCATED IN NOANK, CONNTIT. - DIFFERENT LENDERS, AND MY - EXPECTATION IS THAT I WON'T BE - APPROVED, THAT MAYBE NOBODY WILL - SEE MY APPLICATION, BUT I'M - GIVING IT ANOTHER SHOT. - >> MY NAME IS GREG HUNNICUTT.AN - OUR COIS HERE IN HOUSTON, - TEXAS, IT'S HUNNICUTT - CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN.HE - WE APPLIED FORIRST ROUND - AND GOT NOTHING. - I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN KIND OF A - SS AND TALHAL T SIINNESS OI WNEH - >> NOW THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THE - MONEY, WHAT CAN WE DO T?

- THEY SAY BASICALLY 25% OF THE - MONEY YOU RECEIVED CAN GOS - TOWAN-PAYROLL COSTS. - THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, - THERE'S ONLY A SMALL LIST OF - CATEGORIES THAT THAT COULD FALL - INTO, IT'S RT, IT'S UTILITIES - AND INTEREST ON CERTAIN THINGS. - WITH US BEING CLOSED, UTILITIES, - MAY BE $100 FOR THE NEXT EIGHT - ANY OF IT.AUSE WE'RE NOT USING - BUT WE HAVE OTHER BILLS, LIKE - OUR INSURANCE PREMIUMS, OUR - DON'T NECESSARY FALL IN AS ANAT - ELIGIBLE EXPENSE - SO WE HAVE TO MAKE THE CHOICES. - DO WE PAY THIS MONEY? - >> I AM SO FRUSTRATED THAT... - BUSINESSES WHO WERE OUT THERE IN - THE STOCK MARKET, THEY WERE - TRADING PUBLICLY, COMPANIES THAT - PREIR C.E.O.S ARE MAKING MORE - MONEY THAN I WILABLY EVER - SEE IN MY LIFETIME, TOOK - ADVANTAGE OF A PROGRAM THAT WAS - DESIGNED TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE ME. - THAT WE CAN SURVIVE AND SO THAT - NEXT WEEK, WHEN OUR TAXES ARE - DUE AND OUR RENT IS DUE, THAT W' - HAVE TO WORRY WHAT WE HAVE

- TO PAY FIRST. - >> ION'T HAVE MUCH HOPE. - WE DID APPLY, YOU KNOW, WITH - MULTIPLE BANKS. - BUT I-- WE'RE MAKING A PLAN TO - >> Desjardins: WHI RELEASE - OF THE LATEST RELIEF MONEY WAS - BOGGED DOWN, SOME LARGER - ANIES, AS YOU HEARD, LIK - SHAKE SHACK AND RUTH'S CHRIS - STEAK HOUSE, HAVE RETURNED THE - LOANS THEY GOT. T - MON $2 BILLION WAS - RETURNED FROM COMPANIES, AFTER - PUBLIC OUTCRY. - ALL TOLD, THE VERNMENT HAS - COMMITTED ROUGHLY $650 BILLION - FOR THIS PROGRAM SO FAR. - WE TN TO TWO LEADERS WHO - ADVOCATE FOR SMALL AND - INDEPENDENT BUSINESSES. - AMANDA BALLANTYNE IS EXECUTIVE - DIRECTOR OF THE MAIN STREET - ALLIANCE - AND BRAD CLOSE. - HE'S PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL - FEDERATION OF INDEPENDENT - BUSINESSES.T' - BRAD, START WITH YOU. - FIRST OF ALL, TLXATVEY FAC - TBE - BUSINESSES WERE WAITING FOR THIS - MONEY? - THANKS. - I THINK BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE HEAR - FROM SMALL BUSINESSES IS THEY'D - HAVING A HATIME GETTING TO

- THEIR BANK TO GET THEIRPL - ATIONS IN. - THEY HAVE BEEN VERY FRUSTRATED - AT THE DELAYS. - THEY KEEREADING MEDIA REPORTS - OF PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES - ACCESSING GNIFICANT AMOUNTOF - MONEY. - WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SIZE OF - MONEY GOING TO LARGE BUSINESSES - AND PUBD,LICLY TRA THAT MONEY - WOULD FUND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF - SMALL BUSINESSES TO HELP THEM - KEEP THEIR EMPLOYEES ON E - PAYROLL, SO THOSE WHICH HAVEN'T - GOTTEN LOANS, WHICH IS ABOUT 80% - OF SMALL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE - APPLIED RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE VERY - FRUSTRATED. - >> AMMAN DARK IT'S MY - UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SMALL - BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION WAS C - TRYING TO MANGES TO MAKE - THIS MORE ACCESSIBLE TO SMALL - BANKS, FROM WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND, - WHAT KIND OF BESSS ACTUALLY - ARE GETTING THIS HELP MOST, AND - WHERE IS THIS MONEY MISSIONING - THE MARK? - >> IN THE MOST RECENT - LEGISLATION THAT PUT MORE MONEY - INTO THIS PROGRAM, THERWAS - SPECIAL MONEY THAT WAS TO BE - EARMARKED FO SMALLER, MID-SIZED - BANKS, CREDIT UNIONS AND - COMMUNITY FINANCIAL DEVELOPME - INITUTIONS THAT ARE WORAK WITH S - AND UN-BANK BUSINESS POPULATIONS

- ACROSS THE COUNTRY. - SO IN SOME WAYS THAT'S VERY GOOD - DEVELOPMENT IN THIS PROGRAM, BUT - THE PROGRAMS IN THOSE BANKS ARE - STILL HAVING TROUBLE AND - STRUGGLING PROCESSING THE - INPLICATIONS THAT ARE COIN, - SAD I WOULD Y E TH - SYSTEM THAT S.B.A. PUT IN TO TRY - TO PROCESS THE BACKLOG, BECAUSE - REMEMBERHEY PAUSED THE PROAM - LAST WEEK BECAUSE THERE WAS - TREMENDOUS BACKLOG, HAS ALSO LED - TO DISPARITIES IN TERMS OF WHO - IS GETTING AESS. - I STILL THINK THEY'RE PROCESSING - THE BACKLOG FROM THE LAST - PROGRAM, AND IT'S UNLIKELY THAT - BUSINESSES WHO WERE THE UNKED - AY OR FAILED TO GET IN LINE IN - THE LAST ROUND OF THIS ARE GOING - TO SEE LOANS COME THROUGH. - >> WE'HEARD A LOT OF THAT - FRUSTRATION. - AS YOU TALKED ABOUT, D, - FRUSTRATION OVER LARGER - COMPANIES GETTING MONEY. - BUT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TOBE -- - THE LAW SAYS IT'S FOR COMPANIES - HOW ARE THESE NATIONAL GIANT. - COMPANIES GETTING THIS MONEYO - BEGIN WITH?

- >> WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. - I THINK THEY HAVE VERY GOO - BANKING RELATIONSHIPS, AND - PROBABLY THIS SEEMS TO BE COMING - MOSTLY FROM LARGE REGIONAL BANKS - THAT ARE REACHING OUT TO - PROBLY THEIR BEST CUSTOMERS - AND GETTING THEM THESE LOANS. - WHEN YOU READ THAT THEOS - ANGELES LAKERS PROFESSIONAL - MILLION, THAT DEFINITELY HAS US - CONCERNED. - THERE ARE TWEEETS, -- TWAKS THAT - CONGRESS CAN MAKE TO THIS - PROGRAM RIGHT NOW THAT WILL MAKE - IT A LOT BETTER ANL WILEVENT - THESE THINGS FROM HAPPENING. - ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WE - HEAR FROM SMALBUSINESSES IS - THE REQUIREMENT THAT 75% OF THE - LOAN PROTSCEEDS BE USED FO - THAT'S A HUGE THRESHOLD FOR - BUSINESSFO THAT HAVE TWOUR, - SIX, EIGHT EMPLOYEES. - THEIR EMPLOYEE COSTS AREN'T THAT - HIGH. - >> THAT'S WHAT I WANT THE TALK - ABOUT MORE. - AMMAN DARK WE HEARD IN THATZZ - STORY, SOME WH, ESPECIALLY - RESTAURANTS AND IN SOME CASES - DAYCARES SAY THIS PROGRAM REALLY - IS NOT HELPING THEM FOR - DIFFERENT REASONS. - CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS,

- SOME BUSINESSES MEETING THEIR - PAYROLL IS NOT EXACTLY WHAT THEY - NEED TO KEEP OPEN. - >> SURE. - I THINK REMEMBER, THIS PROGRAM - WAS DESIGNED INITIALLY BEFORE WE - HAD THESE TREMENDOUS WAVES OF - LAYOFFS. - SO MANY BUSINESSES HAVE ALREADY - DONE SIGNIFICANT -- I MEAN, - STUNNING LAYOFFS AND ARE, IN - FACT, MANY OF THEM ARE APPLYING - FOR UNEELMPLOYMENT THES. - WHAT THEY NEED IS TO KEEP THE - DOORS OPEN, KEEP FIXED COSTS - FLOWING, PAYING THEIR RENT,PA - NG THEIR UTILITIES, THEIR - MORTGAGES, SO THEY CAN CONTINUE - TO REMAIN SOLVENT AND MAINTAIN - E TYPE OF DEBT THAT WOULD PUSH - THEM INTO BANKRUPTCY. - NEED MONEY TO PIVOT TO, RETIRE - SO THEY CAN SHIFT THEIR - OPERATIONS ANOPERATE IN THE - WAYS THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO IN A - SOMEWHAT LIMITED ENVIRONMENT. - SO THE PPP, YOU KNOW, THE RATIOS - ARE INCORRECT, THAT'S TRUE, IT - COULD BE MADE MORE FLEXIBLE AND - ALSO BE PIVOTED TO MAKE - EASIER FOR BUSINESSES TO START - TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO OPEN UP ANO - TO RT TO DO SO.

- >> KNOW SOME BUSINESSES ARE - WORRIED ABOUT WHEN THEY CAN GET - THEIR REVENUE BAC BUT BRAD, I - WANT TO ASK YOU FINALLY, I HAVE - HEARD FROM BUSINESSES WHO HAVEDE - WAOR THIS MONEY AND NOW - SAY THEY HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME - AND THEY ARE BEGINNING TO INK - ABOUT LAYOFFS, MAYBE AS SOON AS - TOMORROW IF A LOAN DOESN'T COME - THROUGH. - HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE IN THAT - SITUATION WHERE THEY MAY BE - LAYING OFF WORKERS RIGHT NOW? - >> WELL, WHEN WE ASKED OUR - THAIHAHCOKSULDN'T AG - MAOKE IT MORE THAN ONE TO TWO - MONTHS UNDER THE CURRENT - ECONOMIC CONDITIONS. - SO IF THEY'RE NOT GETTING ACCESS - TO A LOAPROGRAM OR A GRANT - PROGRAM, THAT'S A PROBLEM. - AND THAT'S WHY THESE PROGRAMS - HAVE GOT TO BE FIXED TO WORK FOR - THE USALLEST OF BESSES. - THE S.B.A.M. NEEDS THE TAKE THAT - MONEY THAT PUBCLY TRADED - IT UNTIL POOL AN IT OUT TOKEEP - THE VERY SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS - OUT THERE. - WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THERS - JUST NOTNY OPTIONS THERE FOR - SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, AND I - KNOW THE FED HAS ANNOUNCED THEIR - MAIN STREET PROGRAM, BUT WHEN - THEY ANNOUNCED IT, THEY SAID IT

- WOULD HAVE A L MINIMN FLOOR - OF $2 MILLION, WHICH ISFO - LUDICROUSMALL BUSINESSES. - THEY NEED HAVE THAT LOAN - FLOOR VERY, VERY SMALL, SOSM - TYPICAL BUSINESS HAS - ANOTHER PLACE TO GO FOR HELP. - >> WE KNOSML BUSINESS, A - REMINDER, THEY E SO KEY TO OUR - ECONOMY. - BRAD CLOSE, AMANDA BALLANTYNE, - THANK YOU. - >> THANK YOU.AN - >> TYOU. - >> Woodruff: NEW YORK REMAINS - PERHAPS THE HARDEST HIT AREA IN - THE COUNTRY, BOTH IN TERMS OF - DEATH TOLL AND ECONOMIC LOSS. - WE TURN NOW TO THE TOP DEMOCRAT - IN THE SENATE, HE IS MINORITY - LEADER CHUCK SCHUMER, WHO JOINS - US FROM HIS HOME ITOBROOKLYN. - SESCHUMER, THANK YOU VERY - MUCH FOR JOINING US. - FIRST ABOUT THE DECISION - ANNOUNCED BY THE HOUSE OF - REPRESENTATIVES TODAY THAT THEY - XT WEEK AFTER N THE IN SESSLN - ADVICE OF THE CONGRESSIONAL - PHYSICIAN, RISING CASES HEE IN - E WASHINGTON AREA.

- THE SENATE, FEWER MEMBERS,LE - SMCHAMBER. - HOW IS IT SAFE FOR THE SENATE IF - IT'S NOT SAFE FOR THE HOUSE? - THE DECISION AS I UNDERSTAND IT - WITHOUT EVEN CONSULTING THE - CAPITOL PHYSICIAN, BUT I'LL TELL - YOU, IF WE'RE GOING TO COME - TO COME BACK, THE DECISION ISUS - HIS, THEN WE OUGHT TO BE USING - THE TIME PRODUCTIVELY. - IT SEEMS WHAT HE WANTS TO DO IS - HAVE US VOTE FORAV OR HE - HEARINGS ON A JUDGE WHO IS SORT - OF A CRONY OF HIS,OMEONE - USED TO WORK ON HIS STAFF WHO - WAS RATED UNQUALIFIED BY THE - A.B.A. - PEOPLE ARE HURTING. - PEOPLERE DYING. - WE OUGHT TO USE THIS TIME TO - EXERCISE OUR OVERSIGHT AUTHORITY - AND HAVE HEARINGS. - THEY WILL BE NATIONWIDE ON TV OR - IF NOT ON TV CERIOTAINLY AUD - OVER THESE ISSUES. - WHY ARE WE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB - ON THIS? - WE OUGHT TO HAVE BIRX COME BY. - WE OUGHT TO HAVE FAUCI COME BY - IN HEARING, NOT LIKE WHEN THE - PRESIDENT GETS A QUESTION FROM

- THE REPORTER AND HE CAN MAKE FUN - OF THE REPORTER. - THE SENATORS CAN HONE IN, ASK A - LOT OF QUESTIONS, FIOUT - WHAT'S WRONG, AND THESE HEARINGS - HAVE OFTEN IMPORTUNED AN - ADMINISTRATION THE ADO. - WE OUGHT TTHE SAME THING - WITH SMALL BUSINESS. - WE OUGHT TO DO THE SAME THING - WITH UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE. - IF W WRE GOING TO COME BAC - SHOULD USE THE TIME THE HAVE - HEARINGS THAT WILL HELP SOLVE - THIS CRISIS, NOT ON JUDGE, OR - NTRELEVANT APPOINTEES. - >> Woodruff: I WO ASK - ABOUT, THAT BUT ARE YOU SAYING - YOU DON'T THINK IT'S SAFE FOR - THE SENATE TO COE BACK? - >> THE CAPITOL HILL PHYSICIAN, - THE CHIEF DOCTOR THERE, TOLD THE - HOUSE IT WASN'T SAFE. - I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF McCONNELL - CALLED HIM. - McCONNELL. KNOW WHAT HE TOLD - IF HE TALKED TO McCONNELL AT - ALL. - >> Woodruff: WELL, LET ME ASK - YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS YOU - CUSSED. - YOU ARE WORKING IN THE CONGRESS - ON ANOTHER ROUND OF EMERGENCY - ECONOMIC AID. - AND WE HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO - SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE WHO ARE - BASICALLY SAYING, A LOT OF THIS - MONEY DIDN'T GO WHERE IT WAS

- SUPPOSED TO. - ONE OF THE PEOPLE JUST HEARD - FROM, HER NAME IS CHRISTINE - GOSSELIN - SHE OWNS A HAIR SALON IN GROTON, - CONNECTICUT, IN THEILLAGE - THERE. - SHE SAID, "I'M SO FRUSTRATED - THAT BUSINESSES PUBLICLY TRADED - COMPANIES, THEIR C.E.O.S MAKING - MORE MONEY THAN I WILL MAKE IN A - TIME TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A - PROGRAM THAT WAS DESIGNED TO - HELP PEOPLE LIKE ME, PEOPLE WHH - NEEDMONEY SO WE CAN - SURVIVE." - WHAT DO YOU SAY TO SOMNE LIK - MISS GOSSELIN? - >> SHE'S ON THE MONEY. - I AGREE WITH HER. - MY DAD WAS A SMALL BUSINESSMAN. - HE WAS AN EXTERMINATOR. - HE HAD A ROUGH TIME EVERY DAY - AND THAT WAS WITHOUT COVID. - THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE - INSTRUCTED THE BANKS TO NOT GOBU - FOR BIG BOYTHE SMALL, - LITTLE BUSINESSES LIKE MISS - GOSSELIN, AND WHAT WE DID IN - COVID 3.5, WHICH IS JUST - HAPPENING NOW, WE WALLED OFF - $125 BILLION THAT CAN'T GO TO T - THE BIG BOAT GOES TO - MINORITY BANKS, THAT GOES TO

- SMALL BANKS, THAT GOES TO CREDIT - UNIONS, THAT GOES TO RUR - AREAS. - WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE - ADMINISTRATION GETS THIS MONEY - T, AND JUST LET ME MAKE ONE - MORE POINT. - >> Woodruff: CAN THAT HAPPEN, - SENATOR? - YES. - ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS HERE IS - THIS ADMINISTRATION -- WE CAN - MAKE GOOD LAWS, B THE - EXECUTIVE BRANCH, THE PRESIDENT - AND HIS PEOPLE ARE IN CHARGE OF - EXECUTING THEM. - THEY'RE EXECUTING THEM POORLY, - AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED ESE - KINDS OF HEARINGS. - I WANT UNIVERSITY OF NEW - HAMPSHIRE -- I WANT MNUCHIN TO - COMEEFORE THE SENE THIS WEEK - AND SAY, WHY ISN'T THE MONEY - GOING TO SMALL BUSINESS?'T - WHY ISNHE $60 BILLION, WHICH - IS DIRECT TO S.B.A., NOT THROUGH - A BANK, NOT GETTING OUT? - THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT - HAVE TO ASKED. - >> Woodruff: BUT SENATOR, WITRE - ALL DUECT, THAT - LEGISLATION WAS PASSED BY THE - SENATE AND BY THE HOUSE, SO THE - LANGUAGE WAS IN THERE. - >> IT JUST PASSED. - THIS PASSED IN COVID3.5 - THE ORIGINAL 3.0, WHICH JUST HAD - THE P.P.P PROGRAM, THEY WER - SUPPOSED TO CELT UP GUIDELINES, - THE ADMINISTRATION,O TELL THE - BANKS TO REPRESENT SMALL PET LE.

- THEY DIDET UP THOSE - GUIDELINES. - THAT'S WHY WE CAME BACK. - AND WHEN McCONNELL SAID AND - WHEN THE TREASURD JUST GIVE - US MORE MONEY FOR P.P.P. WHERE - THE MONEY WAS GOINGO THE BIG - BOYS, WE SAID NO. - WE WANT $125 BILLION TO GO TO - OTHER PROGRAMS THAT IT HAS TO GO - TO SMALL BUSINESSES. - W, THEY JUST GOT TO GET THE - MONEY OUT QUICKLY. - >> Woodruff: LET ME AOK YU - ABOUT AID FOR STATE AND LOCAL - GOVERNMENTS. - >> YES. - >> Woodruff: THE HOU - MAJORITY LEADER STENY HOYER SAID - TODAY HE SEES AROUND $500 - BILLION ROUGHLY THE AMOUNT THAT - HE SAYS GOVERNORS WANT FOSTATE - AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DOES THAT - SOUND LIKE THE RIGHT AIM TO YOU - THAT STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS - SHOULDET? - >> YES, IT DOES. - RENT ME JUST SAY, THIS IS NOT AN - ABSTRACT CONCEPT. - SOME OF OUR REPUBLICAN FRIENDS - CAL WE DON'T LIKE LO - GOVERNMENT. - THESE ARE POLICEMEN AND FIREMEN - AND PEOPLE WHO DRIVES THE BUSES. - A LOT OF TM ARE HOSPITAL WORK - ERS. - THEY WILL BE LAID OFF,OF LAIF,

- NO JOB, NO MONEY, THROUGH NO - FAULT OF TIR OWN IF WE DON'T - GIVE A STRONG, LARGE INFUSION TO - THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT. - MONEY WE GIVE C BE UED TOHAT THE - MAKE UP FOR LOST REVENUES. - THE STATES AN LOCALITIES ARE - NOT COLLECTING MUCH IN TAXES. - THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. - >> Woodruff: WHAT DO YOU SAY, - THOUGH, SECRETARY MNUCHIN, THE - PRESIDENT HIMSELF HAVE SAID THEY - ARE WARY OF SENDING MONEY TO - STATES THAT THEY ARGUE WERE - FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE, THEIR - TERM, BEFORE THIS PANDEMIC EVER - STARTED. - >> THE REASON THE STAT ARE IN - TROUBLE RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE OF - TWO REAONSONS. - THEY HAVE HUGE EXPENSES. - BECAUSE OF COVID.NEW EXPENSE - THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH - FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY OR - IRRESPONSINDLITY. - AND SEBECAUSE NO REVENUES - ARE COMING IN. - THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ITSELF - DELAYED TAXESNTILNE 30TH - INSTEAD OF APRIL 15th. - AND THE STATE TAXES ARE KEY TOFE - THRAL TAXES. - SO THEY NEED HELP. - AND THIS IDEA, OH, THEY'RE BAD. - AND BY WH WTAY? - BLUE STATES, RED STATES?

- A FIREFIGHTER WHO I WORKING FOR - A CITY DOESN'T LOOK AT WHETHER - HE'S IN A BLUE STATE OR A RED - STATE. - IN EITHER STATE IF HE'S LAID OFF - OR SHE'S LAID OFF, THEY NEED - HELP. - SO THIS POLITICALIZATION OF THIS - IS JUST HARMFUL TO AVERAGE - PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING HARD AND - NEED OUR HELP. - WE DEMOCRATS WANT TO GIVE THEM - HELP NOW WITHOUT ALL OF THE - CAVEATS, STRINGS ATTACHED, - CRITICISMS. - IT MAKES NO SENSE. - AND BY THE WAY, JUDY, EVERY - REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR SIGNED A - LETTER SAYING THEY NEED THIS - MONEY. - THIS IS NOT A DEOCRATIC OR - REPUBLICAN ISSUE.f: - >> WoodrHE OTHER PIECE - OF THIS IS THE SENATE MAJORITY - LEADER MITCH McCONNE - SAYING TODAY THERE IS NOT GOING - TO BE HELP FOR STATES AND LOCAL - GOVERNMENTS UNLESS THERE IS ALSO - SOME SORT OF LIABILITY - PROTECTION FOR BUSINESSES. - EE SAYS BUSINESSES AR - FORECASTING THERE'S GOING TO BE, - LAWSUITS.RDS, A PANDEMIC OF - BUSINESSES HAVE TO BE PROTECTED. - WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING - DEMOCRATS WOULD GO AONG WITH?

- >> LOOK, I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN ITL - BUT I TELL YOU, IF IT'S - GOING TO HELP BIG C.E.O.S AN - NOT HELP THE WORKERS, THAT'S NOT - GOING TO HAPPEN. - WHY DOES McCONNELL HAVE THE - KEEP DRAWING THESE LES IN THE - SAND THAT HE LATER RETREATS - FROM. - TNE DAY IT'S BANKRUPTCY. - ONE DAY HE'S NO GOING TO - BE-TO-DO ANYTHING WITH P.P.P.?T - WHY DOES SIT DOWN AND WORK - WITH US BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE - HURTING. - HE'S ALWAYS DRAWING SE - IDEOLOGICAL, POLITICALLY DRIVEN - LINES IN THE SATURDAY. - MAKES NO SENSE. - HE OUGHT TO SIT DOWN, WORK US - WITH, AND GET THE MONEY TO THOSE - S DRIVERS, TO TSE FOOD - SAFETY WORKERS, TO THOSE POLICE - OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS. - THEY DID NOTHING WRONG. - IF WE DO NOTHING, THEY'LL BE - >> Woodruff: AND SENATOR, THE - OTHER POINT SENATOR McCON TLL - MAAY IS THERE WILL NOT BE - FUNDING IN THIS NEXT ROUND FOR - INFRASTRUCTURE. - >> WELL, AGAIN, LINES IN THE - ND. - WITHOUT TALKING ANYBODY, THAT'S - WHY HE DIDN'T GET HIS WAY ON - FIRST TWO BILLS, BECAUSE HE DID - WHAT HE WANTED, DIDN'T TALK TO

- PEOPLE, EVEN HIS O REPUBLICAN - SENATORS WANT STATE AND LOCAL - AID, BY THE WAY, EIGHT OR NIN T - M SPOKE OUT FOR THAT. - ON INFRASTRUURE, WE HAVE A - HUGE ECONOMIC HOLE. - WE HAVE TO GET OUT OF IT. - I WOULDN'T TAKE ANYTHING OFF THL - I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE - OF INFRURAURE OR WHAT TYPE - OF INFRASTRUCTURE. - I THINK IT SHOULD BE GREEN.OU - BIT IN COVID 4 OR ANOTHER - BILL? - TO JUST TAKE IT OFF THE TABLE - WHEN THE ECONOMY IS HURTING AND - INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN A - TIME-TESTED WAY TO GET PEOPLE - ECONOMY GOING AGAIN MAKES NO - SENSE. - MIH McCONNELL, STOP DRAWING - LINES IN THE SAND. - WORK WITH US. - GET SOMETHING DONE TO HELP - PEOPLE. - >> Woodruff: BUT IN JUST A FEWEN - SECONDS,OR, THE - REPUBLICANS HAVE THE CLOUT. - THEY'RE IN THE MAJORITY. - >> WELL, THEYE NOT IN THE - MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE, AND EACH - TIME THEY HAD TO COME AND DO - MOST OF THE THINGS WE WANTED IN - COVID 3 AND COVID 3.5 THE LAST - TWO BILLS BECAUSE THEIR OWNER - PEOPLEPRESSURING THEM TO - DO IT.

- IT WASN'T REPUBLICANS DRAWING A - LINE IN THE ND, IT WAS - BASICALLY MITCH McCONNELL. - NOT EVEN PRESIDENT TRUMP DREW - SUCH LINES IN THE SAND. - >> Woodruff: SNATOR CHUCK - SCHUMER, THE MINORITY LEADER IN - THE UNITED STATES SENATE, THANK - YOU VERY MUCH. - >> THANK YOU, JUDY. - >> Woodruff: CONTINUE TO STAY - SAFE. - >> LIKEWISE TO YOU. - BE CAREFUL. - PULITZ PRIZE. - PLEASE. - >> Woodruff: THIS WEEK, - NEW ZEALAND PRIME MINISTER - JACINDA ARDERN ANNOUNCED THE - COUNTRY HAD ELIMINATED THE - CORONAVIRUS, BUT WARNED - RESIDENTS MUST STAY NT TO - KEEP IT THAT WAY. - NEXT DOOR, AUSTRALIA HAS SEEN - MPARABLE SUCCESS IN BATTLING - THE VIRUS. - NICK SCHIFRIN PORTS ON HOW THE - O PACIFIC NATIONS DID IT. - IT'S NEVER TASTED . - >> SO STOKED, FIRST REAL COFFEE.

- >> HONESTLY, IT'S SO GOOD TO - HAVE A COFFEE. - >> Schifrin: FOR MORE THAN A - MONTH, NEW ZEALAND ENDURED ONE - OFHE WORLD'S STRICTEST - LOCKDOWNS. - TODAY, THE GOVERNMENT PARTIALLY - LIFTED THE LOCKDHAN AND SAID IT - "ELIMINATED" THE VIRUS. - 400,000 PEOPLE WENT BACK TO - WORK. - >> I'VE GOT BAGS OF GOODIENGTHAT - I'M DROPFF TO PEOPLE'S - HOUSES. - >> Schifrin: AND NEW ZEALAND - RESEARCHER ALEX ZUUR FILMED - HERSELF DELIVERING SOME OFHIS - MASSIVE GROCERY HAUL TO FRIENDS. - >> WHILST I CAN'T PHYSICALLY - MAKE CONTACT WITH THEM, IT'S - NICE TO BE AE TO HAVE JUST A - LITTLE BIT MORE CHANCES TO LEAVE - YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROVIDETH - THINGS TE WHO NEED THEM - THE MOST AT THE MOMENT. - >> Schifrin: NEW ZEALAND HAS - LESS THAN 20 COROAVIRUS DEATHS, - AND IN THE LAST WEEK, SINGLE- - DIGIT NEWLY DIAGNOSED - INFECTIONS. - TODAY, THE REOPENING WAS - ANNOUNCED BY THE COUNTRY'S - SYMBOL OF SUCCESS, AND - VIGILANCE: PRIME MINISTER - JACINDARDERN. - >> THERE IS NOT ONE POINT IN - TIME THAT THIS MISSION ENDS NOW. - YES, WE HAVE DONE THAT IN - LOCKDOWN. - THE GOAL NOW IS TO KEEP UP THAT - WORK.

- SO, WE ARE NOW IN THE XT - PHASE OF THE BATTLE, AND WE ARE - NOT DONE. - EVENING, EVERYONE! - >> Schifrin: ARDERN'S KNOWN FOR - A PERSONAL, EMPATHETIC TOUCH, - INCLUDING AFTER THE 2019 - KILLED 51 PEOPLE.UE ATTACK THAT - DURING THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS, - BETWEEN PRESS CONFERENCES, SHE - TOOK TO FACEBOOK LIVE. - >> MANY OF YOU, OF COURSE, WILL - HAVE GOTTEN THE MESSAGE FROMST - CIVIL DEFENSE S THIS - ING, THE BLAST OF THE HO - ON YOUR PHONE, AND THEN SOME - EESSAGES THAT WE'RE REALLY - FOR EVERYONE TO STICK TO AS WE - GO THROUGH THE NEXT SEVERAL - WEEKS AT HOME. - >> COMPASSIONATE LEADERSHIP - GOBASED ON GOOD SCIENCE AN - ADVICE WAS REALLY A VERY - POWERFUL COMBINATION HERE. - >> Schifrin: COLLIN TUKUITONGA - IS AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF - PUBLIC HEALTH AT THE UNIVERSITY - OF AUCKLAND. - HE ACKNOWLEDGES NEW ZEALAND'S - SUCCESS COMES IN PART FROM ITS - SMALL SIZE AND ISOLATIONBUT - ALSO FROM ELEVATING PUBLIC

- HEALTH OVER ECONOMIC CONCERNS. - >> AND IN FACT, OUR FORMER PRIME - MINISTER, HELEN CLARK, WAS - BASICALLY SAID THAT YOU CAN - RECOVER FROM A DAMAGED ECONOMY, - BUT YOU CAN'T RECOVER IF YOU'RE - DEAD FROM COVID-19.ch - >>rin: NEXT DOOR, - AUSTRALIA HAS ALSO HAD SUCCESS. - AUSTRALIA'S CONSERVATIVE PRIME - MINISTER, SCOTT MORRISON, LED - WITH SCIENCE AND STARK WARNINGS. - HE ISSUED AN EARLY STAY-AT-HOME - ORDER, MOVEMENT RESTRICTIONS, - >> THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES, I - WANT TO STRESS. - THIS VIRUS WRITES ITS OWN RULES - AND WE HAVE TO SEEK TO TRY AND - UNDERSTAND THEM AS BEST WE CAN, - AND RESPOND AS BEST WE CAN TOE - ESSURES THAT WE FACE. - >> Schifrin: MORRISON'S RESPONSE - WAS A POLITICAL RECOVERY, AFDUR - HE STUMBLENG AUSTRALIA'S - WORST EVER BRUSH FIRES. - TUKUITONGA FEARS THE U.S. IS - STUMBLING TODAY. - >> IN TERMS OF THE LEADERSHIP - R THE NATION AND FOR THE - WORLD, THAT THE U.S., AS WE HAVE - KNOWN IT, ISN'T SHING THOSE - NDADERSHIP REQUIRED FOR

- CONTROLLING THE IC AT - HOME, BUT OBVIOUSLY IN TERMS OF - COMMUNICATING TO THE REST OF THE - WORLD. - >>chifrin: BUT THEIWIS' - STEPS CLICKED, SO EVEN TOURISTS - TRAPPED IN THE COUNTRY BECAUSE - OF BORR CLOSURES WERE HAPPILY - STUCK. - >> I ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE I'M IN - THE SAFEST COUNTRY I COULD BE IN - THE WORLD. - IT FEELS LIKE A SAFE HAVEN. - IT FEELS LIKE THEY'VE DONE - THINGS REALLY PROMPTLY. - >> WE'RE A SMALL, SMALL PLACE, - AT THE BOTTOM OF THE WORLD. - BUT NONETHELESS, I THINK ON THIS - OCCASION WE SEEM TO HAVE DONE - SOMETHING-- SOMETHING RIGHT. - >> Schifrin: AND MAYBE HAVE SOME - LESSONS FOR THE REST OF THE - WORLD. - >> YES, I THINK SO. - >> Schifrin: FOR THE PBS - NEWSHOUR, I'M NICK SCHIFRIN. - >> Woodruff: THROUGHOUT THE - PANDEMIC, RESTRICTIONS ON SOCIAL - GATHERINGS HAVE FORCED THOSE WHO - RAMADAN TO FIND NEW WAYS TOAND - PRACTICE THEIR FAITH. - AND, WE WANTED TO EXPLORE HOW - THE CORONAVIRUS IS CHANGING

- PLACES OF WORSHIP WITH THREE - FAITH LEADERS. - REVEREND TIM COLE SERVES AS - RECTOR FOR CHRIST CHURCHAN - GEORGETOWNWAS THE DISTRICT - OF COLUMBIA'S FIRST CONFIRMED - CORONAITRUS CASE. - BR ROSENBERG IS THE - SENIOR RABBI AT UNITED HEBREW - CONGREGATION IN ST. LO - MISSOURI. - EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE - ISLAMIC NTER AT NEW YORK - UNIVERSITY. - WE WELCOME ALL THREE OF YOU TO - THE PROGRAM. - REVEREND TIM COLE, LET ME BEGIN - WITH YOU. - HOW HAS THIS TIME CHANGED THE - WAY YOWORSHIP? - WHAT IS DIFFERENT? - WHAT'S LOST? - >>F WELL,URSE A HUGE AMOUNT - IS LOST IN THE PHYSICAL - PROXIMITY OF BEI TOGETHER. - WORSHIP AS WE UNDERSTAND IT HAS - TWO MAIN DIMENSIONS, A HORIZON - DIMENSION WHERE PEOPLE AE - GATHERED IN THE COMMUNITY, AND - THEN THERE IS THE VERTICAL - DIMENSION IN THE SENSOF OUR - RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.

- SO WHAT WE'VE HAD TO DO IS - ADAPT. - WE'VE STARTED TO DO AS MANY - VIUAL SERVICES. - HAVE A DAILY MORNING PRAYER, - WHICH IS READ BY DIFFERE T - MEMBERS E CONGREGATION - AROUND THE CITY FROM THEIR OWN - LIVING ROOM. - YOU CAN SEE FAMILY TAKING PART - IN THE DAILY CHURCH. - AND ON SUNDAY WE HAVE A SIMILAR - OFFERING, BUT WE HAVE A SERMON - WITH MUSIC. - OUR CHOIR WAS ABLE TO ABSURDI - SOME BEAUTIFULECES OF MUSIC - TO GO WITH THAT. - SO WE'RE DOING THE VERY BEST WE - CAN,S I'M SUR EVERYONE ELSE - IS - >> Woodruff: IMAM LATIF, WHAT - ABOUT YOU? - OF COURSE WE'RE IN THE HLY - MONTH OF RAMADAN. - WHAT'S LOST? - >> SO MUCH ABUT RAMADAN IS - COMMUNAL AS MUCH AS THE FAST - THAT WE HAVE FROM DAWN TO DUSK - IS AN INIVIDUAL PRACTICE, MUCH - RITUAL IN ISLAM BLENDS COMMUNAL - ASPECTS AND DRAWS ITSELF TOSOWAD - AL EQUITY, SO WHERE PEOPLE

- TRADITIONALLY WOULD BE BREAKING - THEIR FAST AT SUNSET WITH FAMILY - AND FRIENDS OR GOING TO - COMMUNITY GATHERINGS OR - INTERFAITH SETTINGS, CITY - OFFICIALS HOSTING GATHERINGS, - NOW MANY ARE AT HOME. - IF THEY HAVE FAMILY OOOR RMMATE, - THEY HIGH BREAKFAST TOGETHER, - BUT MANY ARE DOING IT ON THEIR - OWN SOME WHAT WE'VE DONE SIMILAR - TO THE REVEREND IS DO A LOT OF - OUR PROGRAMMING ONLINE. - WE AREOFRING THINGOM 5:00 - A.M. UNTIL ABOUT 10:00 OR 11:00 - P.M., SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE - DAY TO REALLY MEET THE DIVERSE - TIME.Y AT THISOM - WHAT WE'VE ALSO DONE IS CREATED - A LOT OF ONLINE CAMPANS TO - CROWD FUND TO HELP PEOPLE WHO - BY THIS PANDEMIC AND TO ASSURE - THAT ESPECIALLIN OUR MONTH OF - FASTING, WE CAN HELP INDIVIDUALS - OF WHATEVER BACKGROUND. - WE'LL DO OUR PART TO BE A SOURCE - OF HEALING AT THIS TIME - >> RABBI ROSENBERG, APRIL HAS - BEEN THE MONTH OF PASSOVER FOR

- JEWISH, FOR JEWS IN AMERICA. - HOW HAS WHAT YOU'RE DOI AND - WHAT YOU'VE DONE CHANGED DURING - THIS PERIOD? - >> YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY A WE - JUST HEARD FROM MY TWO - COLLEAGUES THAT WE HAVE REALLY - HAD TO IN THE SAME WAY TANLKE - THINGSE AND DO THEM - VIRTUALLY. - CERTAINLY WITH REGARD TO - PASSER, THERE IS SUCH A - COMMUNAL ASPECT TO PASSOVERRING - JUST AS THERE IS TO RAMADAN, - ESPECIALLY THE MEALS THAT ARE - HELD TOGETHER, AND SO MANY - FAMILIES COULD NOT DO THAT AND - GATHER GENERATIONALLY. - SO MANY PLACES BROUGHT THE SEDER - MEALS ONLINE AND BROUGHT THE - OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE - TOGETHER, AND I WOULD SAY THAT - THE VIRTUAL WORLD HASA RELLY - BECOME SUCH A LIFELINE FOR SO - MANY PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE - WHO ARE HOME BY THEMSELVES AND, - YOU KNOW, THERE ISN'T ANELYBODY - THERE, AND BEING ABLE TO - COME ONLINE, NOT JUST FOR, - WORSHIP, BUU KNOW, TO OFFER - STUDY TO, OFFER CONVERSATION,

- YOU KNOW, JUST AS WE'VE HEARD. - 'RE FINDING WAYS TO JUST BRING - THE CONGREGATION AND BRING - COMMUNY AND CONNECTION TO - PEOPLE IN A VARIETY OF WAYS. - >> Woodruff: REVEREND COLE, - WHAT IS IT THAT PEOPLE ARE - SEEKING RIGHT NOW IN YOUR - CONGREGATION? - ARE YOU FINDING THEY'RE ASKING, - THEY'RE REACHING OUT TO YOU - MORE? - ARE THEY ABLE TO EXPRESS THEIRS? - NE - >> YES, I THINK SO, AND IT'S - WONDERFUL ACTUALLY. - I HAVE BEEN SICK, SO MY - COLLEAGUE HAS BEEN HOLDING COURT - HERE, BUT IT'S WONRFUL WHAT'S - HAPPENED. - IT'S BEEN A PLOWERING IF YOU - LIKE, A BLOOMING OF COMMUNITY - THROUGHOUT THIS PERIOD WHERE - PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEIN - IGHBOR THEIR FELLOW - PARISHIONERS, EVEN MORE THAN - THEY NORMALLY DO. - WE HAVE HAD TWORKS ACROSS THE - PARISH. - >> Woodruff: I S AULD HAVE - SATHE OUTSET WE ARE SO - GLAD TO SEE YOU LOOKING SO WELL - AFTER WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH.

- IMAM LATIF, WHAT ABOUT YOU - PART OF, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE PART - OF ISLAM WHO YOU WORK WITH WHO - YOU KNOW? - ARE THEY REACHING OUT MORE? - IS IT HARDER FOR THEM TO REACH - OUT? - WHAT ARE YOU FINDING? - >> EVERY DAY WE'RE GETTING - CONTACTED BY MUSLIMS AS WELL AS - PEOPLE OF OTHER FAITHS WHO ARE - OUT HOW THE MAKE SENSE OF IT - ALL. - I THINK THE CHALLENGES THAT - EXPERIENCE TENDS TO BE QUITE - LIKE, THIS WE SEOT OFFICULTIES - REVELATIONS OF VARIOUS KINDS - THAT CAN HELP US TO BE COMLLED - TO OUR PART, BECAUSE EVEN IN - MOWRN OF FASTING, MADAN, IT'S - NOT A VACUUM. - THERE IS A PANDEMIC IN THE - BACKGROUND, AND THE PURPOSE OF - RITUAL IN OUR TRADITION IS TO - ELEVATE CONSCIOUSNESS AND BRING - PEOPLE TO TAKE ON SOCIAL ILLS. - SO WHERE WE SEE PEOPLE ON THE - FRONTLINES OR ESSENTIAL WORKERS - WHO EVERY DAY ARE T MEETIE

- VIRUS AND DISPLAYING REAL - >> Woodruff: AND RABBI - ROSENBERG, WHAT ARE YOU HEARING - FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF YOUR - SYPLGOGUE OF THE GROUP OF P - WHO YOU WOULD NORMALLY BE - REACHING OUT TO RIGHT NOW OR WHO - WOULD REACH OUT TO YOU? - >> YOU KNOW, I'M DEFINITELY - HEARING THAT PEOPLE ARE MISSING - THE PHYSICALITY OF BEING - TOGETHER. - AND THE VIRTUAL WORKS, BUT - SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T WORK FORYT - EVNG. - ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE HAVING - TO DO IS ADAPT AND ADJUST. - THIS IS A TIME WHERE THERE ARE - RITUALTHAT WE CAN'T - NECESSARILY DO, SO FUNERALS LOOK - DIFFERENT RIGHT NOW. - WEDDINGS LOOK DIFFERENT. - BAR AND BAT MITZVAH SERLOVICES - DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE CANNOT - QUR TER IN -- GAT THE WAYS - THAT WE ONCE DID. - >> Woodruff: FINALLY, I WANT - TO ASK EACH ONE OF YOU, HOW D - YOU OFFER HOPE TO PEOPLE AT A - TIME LIKE THIS WHEN THERE IS ALO - OF DESPAIR, AND WE'RE

- MOURNING PEOPLE WHO WERE LOST. - REVEREND COLE, WHAT IS YOUR - MESSAGE TO PEOPLE WHO SAY, I - >> WELL, I THINK THERE IS A LOT - OF FEAR AROUND, ISN'T THERE, - FEAR OF SICKNESS, FEAR OF LOSS - OF LIVELIHOOD, FEAR OF JUST AN - UNCERTAIN FUTURE, AND I THINK - THERE ARE THREE THINGS THAT HELP - US WITH FEAR, ONE IS HUMOR, D - IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO - KEEP A SENSE OF HUMOR ABOUT - THINGS AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT - MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE IS FROM - FRIENDSHIP AND THESE CLOSE TIES - THAT WE HAVE. - WHEN I WAS IN HOSTAL, THE FACT - THAT PEOPLE WERE PRAYING FOR ME - MADE IT MUCH HARDER TO BE AFRAID - WHEN I KNEW THERE WERE SO MANY - PEOPLE STANDING BESIDME. - AND SO REACHING OUT TO THOSE - PEOPLE WHO CARE FOR US AND LOVE. - AND FINALLY, OF COURSE, THAT - WHO HAS PROMISETO US ALL THAT - HE WILL SEES THROUGH WHATEVER - SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS

- THAT CERTAINLY HELP ME IN MY - LIFETIME IHOSPITAL. - AND THINKING OF EASTER, YOU - KNOW, THAT IS THE PATTERN THAT - REPEATS AGAIN AND AGAIN. - WE ARE IN A DAR PLACE, A PERIOD - OF WAITING, AND THEN THERE IS A - NEW BEGINNING AND NEW LIFE, AND - I PRAY THIS WHOLE COUNTRY AND - E WORLD WILL GET TO THAT POINT - WI THIS CRISIS AND THIS VIRUS. - >> Woodruf WORDS TO - REMEMBER. - IMAM LATIF, WHAT ABOUT YOU? - WHAT DO YO YOFFER? - WHAT CU OFFER IN THE WAY OF - HOPE? - >> YOU KNOW, I THINK BUILDING - OFF OF EVETHING THAT THE - REVEREND IS SAYING, WHERE - INDIVIDUALS ARE LOOKING FOR A - SENSE OF HOPE, MANIFEST THAT - FIRST STEP OF EMPATHIZING, BEING - A MODE OF, SUPPOT THEN - TAKING IT TO A LEVEL OF HELPING - TO FULFILL NEE WHERE PEOPLE - ARE STRUGGLING IN THEIR - DAY-TO-DAY BECAUSE THEY - LITERALLY HAVE NO MONEY.

- THEY HAVE LOST JOBS. - THEY HAVE NO BENEFITS. - AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THE PUT - FOOD ON THE TABLE. - WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE SPREADING - HOPE TO PEOPLE OF ALL - BACKGROUNDS IN NEW YORK CITY S - MUSLIM VOLUNTEERS ARE GOING OUT - AND PROVIDING MEALS TO PEOE, - DELIVERING IT TO THEIR HOMES, - MAKING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR - INDIDUALS TO FEEL AS IF TY - ARE NOT FORGOTTEN OR LEFT HIND - BY LAUNCHING THESE CAMPAIGNS - THAT WE HAVE. - WE HAVE ALREADY IN THELAST - THREE WEEKS AS A UNIVERSITY - BASED ISLAMIC CENTER, RAISED - OVERLI1 MIL TO ASSIST PEOPLE - IN NEED, AND GOING INTO OURH - MO FASTING, OUR MOST - RECENT CAMPAIGN HAS RAISED - $300,000 IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO - HAS ALREADY SENT CHECKS TO ABOUT - 70 NEW YORKERS IN 25 HOMES OF - VARIOUS BAKGROUNDS, NOT JUST OF - OUR FAITH, TO NOT SIMPLY SEEK - HOPE BUT TO MANIST HOPE, TOf& - MANIFEST LOVE TO, MANIFEST MERCY

- IN ACTIONS THAT SAY IN ANEN - PRECEDENTED TIME, STEPPING UP - ANMEANS ALSO STEPPING OUR HERS S - DO - INTHAT YOU ARE THE REASON THEY - HAVE HOPE IN THIS WORLD AND - NEVER THE REON THEY HIGH DRAD - IT. - >> Woodruff:A RBBI ROSENBERG, - I'M HEARING MORE THAT THE THREE - OF YOU HAVE IN COMN, THAT YOUR - FAITHS HAVE IN COMMON THAN I - THINK PEOPLE MIGHT EXPECT. - >> THE ONE TNG THAT I WOULD - SAY AND THAT I OFTEN LOOK TO - WHEN I TALK ABOUT HOPE ISN - STOPPINGD RECOGNIZING THE - LITTLE BLESSINGS OR WHAT I CALL - E LITTLE SILVER LININGS THAT - COME OUT OF THIS, BECAUSE THERE - ARE THOSE DAYS WHEORE, YOU W, - WE ARE SO FEARFUL OR WE FEEL - LKE THIS IS NEVER GOING TO END, - AND YET THERE ARE THESE LITTLE - MOMENTS OF BLESSINGS WHEN - SOMEBODY REACHES OUT TO US OR - WHEN WHEN WE REACH OUT TO - SOMEBODY ELSE OR WE JUST STOP - AND RECOGNIZE, WE CAN TAKE AOF - BREATH, SOMES NEW YORK THIS - MOMENT, IN WAYS THAT WE NEVER - WERE ABLE TO DO BEFORE. - SO IT'SING JUST STOPPING AND

- FINDING THOSE SMALL BLESSINGS IN - LIFE. - >> Woodruff: RABBI BRIGITTE - ROSENBERG, SUCH A WONDERFUL NOTE - TOND ON. - IMAM KHALID LATIF, AND REVEREND - TIM COLE, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH, - ALL THREE OF U. - >> THANK YOU. - >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. - >> YOU'RE WELCOME. - >> Woodruff: IT TURNS OUT THAT - MISINFORMAON AND CONSPIRACY - EORIES ABOUT COVID-19 ARE - RAPIDLY SPREADING ONLINE, - CREATING WHAT PUBLIC HEALTH - OFFICIALS AROUND THE WORLD ARE - NOW CALLING AN "INFODEMIC. - JOHN YANG CHARTS THE DANGEROUS - COURSE OF FALSEHOODS DURING THIS - GLOBAL HEALTH CRISIS. - >> THIS CAN HELP PREVENTION - INFECTION OF THE CORONAVIRUS. - >> Yang: AROUND THE WOD, - JOURNALISTS FIND THEMSELVES - DEBUNKING WILD CLAIMS: CLAIMS OF - MIRACLE CURES AND PREVENTION - METHODS... - >> YOU NEED TO MICROWAVE YOUR

- MAIL TO KILL THE CORONAVIRUS. - >> Yang: ...STORIES ON THE - ORIGINS OFHE VIRUS... - >> IS THE WUHAN CORONAVIRUS A - BIOLOGICAL WEAPON? - WAS IT BUILT IN A LAB BY - SCIENTISTSND UNLEASHED ON THE - MASSES?an - >> ...THEORIES ABOUT - VACCINES AND BILLIONAIRE BILL - GATES. - >> ...CLAIMING THAT HE - ACTUALLY CREATED THE VIRUS - TO TRICK PEOPLE INTO GETTING - MICROCPPED. - >> Yang: THEY ALL HAVE ONE THING - IN COMMON: THEY'RE ALL NOT TRUE. - ONE PARTICULARLY PERSISTENT - FALSEHOOD? - 5G MOBILE NETWORKS TRANSMIT - COVID-19. - >> YOU KNOW WHEN THEY TURN THIS - ON, IT'S - >> Yang: A WOMAN IN BRITAIN - CALLED WORKERS "KILLERS" FOR - LAYING 5G FIBER-OPTIC CABLES. - >> WHEN YOU TURN THAT ON, ITE, - "BYE, OMMY!" - >> Yang: ACROSS THE UNITED - KINGDOM, ARSONISTS HAVE BURNEDND - CELL TOWERS,HE CLAIM HAS - BEEN SHARED ONLINE WITH MILLIONS - AROUND THE WORLD. - >> SO, THE 5G STORY IS COMPLETE - AND TER RUBBISH. - IT'S NONSENSE. - IT'S THE WORST KIND OF FAKE - NEWS. - THE REALITY IS THAT THE MOBILE - PHONE NETWORKS ARE ABSOLUTELY - CRITICAL. - >> IT'S A NONSTOP HURRICANE OF - MISINFORMATISI AND

- ORMATION TO DEBUNK. - >> Yang: DOREEN MARCHIONNE I - MANAGING EDITOR OF snopes.com, A - FACT-CHECKING WEBSITE THAT - BEEN INUNDATED WITH TENS OF - THOUSANDS OF REQUESTS FOR THE - TRUTH ABOUT CORONAVIRUS CLAIMS. - >> ONE OF THE DUMBEST THAT I - ENCOTERED WAS, IF YOU STICKIN - YOUR FAC HOT BLOW-- - YOUR FACE, YOU MIGHT BLOW COVID - OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM. - TONIC WATER: IF YOU DRINK A LOT - OF IT, IT'LL CURE YOU. - NO, IT WON'T. - BUT IT'S GOOD IN GIN AND TONICS. - >> Yang: MANY EXPERTS CALL THE - STEADY STREAM OF FALSE - INFORMATION AND CONSPIRACY - THEORIES AN "INFODEMIC." - EPIDEMIOLOGISTS AT THE WORLD - HEALTH ORGANIZATN ARE BATTLING - NOT JUST THE VIRUS, BUT ALSO - BOGUS CLAIMS. - >> A LOT OF THE TIME THEY SAY TD - ME, "OH, MY SS, I CAN'T - BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY - BELIEVING THIS.E

- I CAN'T BELIHAVE TO SPEND - TIME DEBUNKING THIS MYTH." - SCIENTIFIC POINT OF VIEW ANDOM A - HAVE TO SPEND TIME AND RESOURCES - DOING THAT. - AT THE SAME TIME, THESE ARE - VALUABLE RESOURCES THAT COULD BE - SPENT GIVIME AND TAILORING - AGES TO VULNERABLE - POPULATIONS. - P Yang: EVEN PRESIDENT TR - HAS TOUTED FALSE-- AND, IN SOME - CASES, DANGEROUS-- TREATMENT - IDEAS. - MOST RECENTLY: INTERNAL USE OF - ULTRAVIOLET GHT AND - DISINFECTANT. - >> I SEE THE DISINCTANT, WHERE - IT KNOCKS IT OUT IN ONE MINUTE. - ONE MINUTE. - AND, IS THERE A WAY WE C DO - SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BY - INJECTION INSIDE, OR-- OR, - ALMOST A CLEANING. - >> Yang: LAST WEEK, THE - PRESIDENT WALKED BACK SOME OF - BEING SARCASTIC ANTAKENHE WAS - OUT OF CONTEXT. - >> HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE. - TRY IT, IF YOU'D LIKE. - >> Yang: AND SCE TALKING ABOUT - THE POSSIBLE EFFECTINESS OF - THE ANTI-MALARIA DRUG - HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE, MR. TRUMP'S - OWN FOOD AND DRUG MINISTRATIONAG

- HAS CAUTIONENST USING THE - DRUG FOR COVID-19 OUTSIDE A - HOSPITAL, DUE TO POTENTIAL HEART - PROBLEMS.ON - LAST, A MAN IN ARIZONA - ED AFTER INGESTING AN - AQUARIUM-CLEANING CHEMICAL THAT - HE THOUGHT WAS THE DRU - >> AS HUMANS, WE ARE FAR MORE - LIKELY TO REMEMBER SOMETHING - FRIGHTENING.an - >> DAVID ROBERT GRIMES IS - A CANCER RESEARCHEAND AUTHOR - OF "THE IRRATIONAL APE," WHICHS - LO HOW PEOPLE CAN BE - DUPED. - THINNG.POOR AT CRITICAL - WE ARE VERY POOR AT EVALUATING - SOURCES.S - AND THAT MAKESRY - VULNERABLE TO THE SHEER AMOUNT - OF DISINFORMATION THAT IS - SPREADING ONLINE.an - >> CRISTINA TARDÁGUILA IS - THE ASSOCIATDIRECTOR OF THE - INTERNATIONAL FACT-CHECKING - NETWORK, WHICH IS LEADING AN - ALLIANCE OF 89 ORGANIZATIONS - MONITORING CORONAVIRUS CONTENT - IN MORE THAN0 COUNTRIES. - , LIKE AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST WHO - WATCHES A VIRUS SPREAD, YOUTH - WATCE HOAXES SPREAD. - >> RIGHT. - AND THEY'RE SPREADING FAST, - JOHN. - WE'RE GETTING MISINFORMATION - OM MY UNCLE, FROM MY COUSIN, - AND ALSO FROM THE PRESIDENT OR

- FROM THE PRIME MINISTER OR EVEN - FROM BOTS. - SO, IT IS THE FIRST TIME THAT - WE'RE HEARING SO MUCH - MISINFORMATION ALL AROUND THE - PLANET. - >>Yang: THAT'S LED TO DEADL - KE BRAZIL, WHEREDENTTRIES - JAIR BOLSONARO HAS REPEATEDLY - URGED CITIZENS TO IGNORE - PUBLIC HEALTH WARNINGS. - HE HAS COMPARED THE VIRUS TO A - MILD FLU, EVEN THOUGH THE NATION - LEADS LATIN AMERICA IN CONFIRMED - CASES AND DEATHS BY LARGE - MARGINS. - AND, THE CHAOS OF THE PANDEMIC - HAS OPENED THE DOOR TO - MISINFORMATION TECHNIQUES LIKE - RUSSIA'S INTERFERENCE IN THE - 2016 U.S. ELECTION. - >> WE'RE ALREADY SEEING EVIDENCE - OF THAT. - THE CREATION OF FAKE FACEBOOK - PAGES RUN BY FAKE ACCOUNTS - AND/OR FAKE PEOPLE, TH - ATTEMPTING TO IN SOME WAY - NEY OFF THIS CRISIS. MAKEPLYLY - >> Yang: U.S. INTELLIGENCE - AGCIES NOW ALSO BELIEVE TH

- FALSE TEXT MESSAGES SENT LAST - MONTH TO - NATION-WIDE LOCKDOWN WERE PUSHED - BY CHINESE OPERATIVES AIMING TO - SOW DISCORD. - ( PROTESTS ) - AND, THERE'S THE RENT - NATIONWIDE PROTESTS OF STAY-AT- - HOME ORDERS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP - HAS, AT TIMES, ENCOURAGED. - THE SEEMINGLY-ORGANIC MOVEMENT - WAS IN FACT ORGANIZED IVEN - BY FAR-RIGHT FACEBOOK GROUPS - THAT HAVE BECOME A HOTBED FOR - CONSPIRACY THEORIES. - SOCIAL MEDIA GIANTS, INCLUDING - FACEBOOK, TWITTER AND YOUTUBE, - HAVE ALL FACED GROWINGTHRITICISM - ABOUR ROLE IN THE SPREAD - OF MISINFORMATION. - FACEBOOK, WHICH IS FUNDER OF - THE NEWSHOUR, NOW ALERTS USERS - WHEN THEY INTERACT WITH FALSE - CORONAVIRUS CONTENT. - ON ANOTHER POPULAR PLATFORM, - REDDIT, USERS HAVE LONG POLICED - EACH OER, TO VARYING DEGREES - OF SUCCESS. - >> ESPECIALLY AS A SCIENTIST, - THE WAY THAT I HAVE TO VERIFY - THINGS HAS CHANGED ENTIRELY. Y - g: EMERSON AILIDH BOGGS, - A VIROLOGIST BY TRAINING, - MODERATES REDDIT'S CORONAVIRUS - PAGE, WHICHAS MORE THAN TWO - MILLION SUBSCRIBERS.

- >> THERE'S A L OF BAD SCIENCE - AT COMES OUT DURING OUTBREAKS, - AND THERE'S A LOT OF GOODE - SCIEAT GETS MISINTERPRETED - AND EDITORIALIZED, EVEN WHEN - IT'S REPORTED FAITHFULLY IN THE - FIRST PLAC - IF I CAN'T PROVE IT, I DON'T - REALLY WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED - WITH IT. - AND I DON'T WANT TO BE - RESPONSIBLE FOR NOTWO MILLION - PEOPLE SEEING IT AND TAKING IT - AS FACT. - >> Yang: DESPITE THE FLOOD OF - MISINFORMATION DURING THIS - CRISISSCIENTIST DAVID ROBERT - GRIMES BELIEVES IT CAN BE - BROUGHT UNDECONTROL. - >> WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT - SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE INTERNET, - THEY ARE NEW TECHNOLOGIES. - AND WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THIS - PROBLEM OF BEING BAD ATSO - IDENTIFYINCES OF - INFORMATION. - THE INTERNET HAS MASSIVELY - EXACERBATED IT. - BUT I'M ALSO OPTIMISTIC THAT WE - CAN ALL COLLECTIVELY LEARN HOW - MUCH OF A PROBLEM THIS IS WHEN - WE DON'T CHECK OUR SOURCES AND - OVERCOME THAT TOGETHER. - >> Yang: BUT FOR NOW, - MISINFORMATION IS SPREADING - FASTER THAN THE VIRUS ITSELF, - AND COULD BE WITH US LONG AFTER - THE PANDEMIC IS OVER.

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