New Mexico in Focus; 825; How Many Children Left Behind?

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THE CULTURAL LIFE, HEALTH, EDUCATION, ENVIRONMENT AND SPIRITUAL LIFE OF THE CITIZENS OF NEW MEXICO. >> KATE: NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND DISTORTS THE LEARNING PROCESS, JOIN US TO DISCUSS THE WELCOME TO IN FOCUS. LEVEL AS THEIR WHITE INTENDED TO DO THAT. PARENTS CHOICES IN WHERE THEY

INSIDIOUS PLAN TO MARGINALIZE EDUCATION SYSTEM. BEHIND" IN AN EFFORT TO REGAIN MORE DIFFICULT TO SUCCEED IN THE SYSTEM SETS SCHOOLS UP FOR IS WHETHER "NO CHILD LEFT THEY NEED. MEXICO STUDENTS. SCHOOLS AND DISCUSS ALTERNATIVE KEYES, UNM PROFESSOR LOIS MEYER, DEPUTY SECRETARY OF EDUCATION CATHERINE CROSS MAPLE AND STATE

SENATOR MARK BOITANO OF >> Keyes: >> KATE: WELCOME, ALF NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND OR DON'T YOUR BIGGEST BEEF WITH NO CHILD >> Keyes: THOMAS KEYES, LOIS FOREMOST, I THINK IT IS AN THE POINTS THAT WE OUGHT TO IMPOSSIBLE. >> Kate: I'LL GET THIS RIGHT >> Meyer: I LOOKED AT THE LAW WITHOUT SPEAKING ENGLISH AND THE THOMAS SAID AND IS WRONG HEADED. NEEDS AND DESIRES OF NEW MEXICO COMMUNITIES, NOR WITH THE

RESEARCH. >> KATE: CATHERINE CROSS MAPLE >> Maple: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THE SPIRIT OF NO CHILD EDUCATION ACT AND DOES ALIGN NEW MEXICO FORWARD BY CREATING OPPORTUNITIES AND EXPANDING ACCESS. IS BEING IMPLEMENTED. >> KATE: SENATOR BOITANO, YOUR >> Boitano: GENERALLY, I AM NOT BECAUSE OF THE DISMAL RECORD WE INTERNATIONAL POPULATION, WE GOOD IN NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND BUT SKY IS FALLING WITH REGARD TO NO >> KATE: TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT >> Boitano: THERE IS FOUR MAJOR

MORE CHOICE. AND NEW MEXICO HAS WE HAD A GOOD TEAM MADE UP OF THE OLD STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION GOAL, SO, IF YOU TALK TO PARENTS, THEY WANT TO HAVE MORE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND AN CHOICE. THAT WE DO TO INNOVATE IS BASED BIT I THINK THAT IS ONE THING >> Kate: CATHERINE, HE MAKES A NOT PRODUCING THE SORT OF ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES IN NO

CHILD LEFT BEHIND? >> Maple: THE ISSUE AROUND IN NEW MEXICO, IN OUR SCHOOLS. THE WAY IT IS BEING CALCULATED PROGRESS. JUST A TESTING GROUP. >> Kate: EXPLAIN HOW IT >> Maple: UNDER ADEQUATE YEARLY EXAMPLE, AT THIRD GRADE LEVEL. FOLLOWING YEAR, IT IS LOOKING AT PEOPLE MIGHT BE THINKING IN >> KATE: AREN'T YOU MEASURING GRADERS OVER TIME THAT 10 YEARS >> Maple: THE QUESTION MIGHT BE

ACCOUNTABILITY? IF OUR CHILDREN ARE ACTUALLY LEARNING AND >> KATE: LOIS MEYER, THERE ARE PEOPLE OF AN ETHNIC OR A POVERTY BACKGROUND, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT >> Meyer: WHAT I CAN SPEAK TO RICH RESOURCE IN THESE CHILDREN. ALMOST 1/3 OF OUR CHILDREN COME ENGLISH BUT THEY HAVE THE STANDS AS THE GREATEST MODEL OF LEGISLATOR OR POLITICIAN TODAY. WE DON'T HAVE MANY OF THOSE. HUMAN RESOURCE IN NEW MEXICO IS

DO SO THE IDEA OF THE ACCOUNTABILITY IS A REAL >> KATE: WHAT IS HAPPENING UNDER >> Meyer: PRIMARILY IT IS AN CAUTION BECAUSE ONE OF THE CANNOT MANDATE A PROGRAM OR ACCOUNTABLE TO ALL OF THE AND CALLS THEM DISADVANTAGED. SO, EFFECTIVELY, THE STATE'S TOWARD ENGLISH IN A WAY THAT >> KATE: IS THAT A BAD THING -- >> MAPLE: ON THAT SAME ISSUE, I WAS AT ARMIJO ELEMENTARY ON WEDNESDAY AND THEY HAVE A HISPANIC. QUESTION I ASKED THE TEACHER

ONLY EXAM? WHICH IS WHAT THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE MEASURES THEN CLAIMS THAT THAT IS A FAIR WAY OF MEASURING CHILD GROWTH. >> KATE: WOULD IT BE BETTER -- GIVE THE TEST IN SPANISH? >> Maple: THAT WOULD BE THAT SECRETARY GARCIA IS HAVING EDUCATION. >> KATE: THEY ARE MEETING RIGHT >> Maple: HOUSTON. >> KATE: WHAT IS IT SHE HOPES TO >> Maple: FLEXIBILITY NOT ONLY ACCOUNTABILITY FOR SPECIAL BASED ON A CHILD'S GROWTH RATHER >> KATE: THOMAS KEYES, TALK TO MEASUREMENT THAT IS, HOW >> Keyes: I AM HOPING THERE ARE

PUBLIC SCHOOL CHILD, I WOULD AND I THINK THAT THE FIRST THING ONE OF OUR STUDENTS MUST BE PROFICIENCY IN MATHEMATICS AND READING BY THE YEAR 2014. I DON'T KNOW OF A SINGLE TEACHER WE CAN MAKE 100% OF ALL OUR BUT HERE IS THE PROBLEM THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT CATHERINE SAID LETS SAY, IN THE FIRST YEAR OF YEARS TO REACH THIS 100% PROFICIENCY. AND 40% OF OUR THIRD GRADERS ARE 40%.

MUST MAKE UP -- WE MUST IMPROVE BY 60% FOR THOSE -- NOT THE SAME GROUP OF THIRD GRADERS AS CATHERINE SAID. MUST BE THAT MUCH BETTER. AND THE ADEQUATE YEARLY PROGRESS IS THIS 60% THAT WE MUST MAKE UP DIVIDED BY 10 YEARS IN ORDER TO DO IT. BUT AGAIN NOT THE SAME GROUP BUT >> Kate: WE ADDRESSED THAT TO A I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE STUDENT IS LEARNING? >> Keyes: IT IS A TERRIBLE THESE TESTS ARE A VERY POOR INSTRUCTIONAL SOURCE OF INFORMATION ABOUT CHILDREN. AND THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.

SCORE, THOSE ARE NOT THE KINDS AND WHERE TO TAKE THEM NEXT. NOT PROVIDING INFORMATION AND >> KATE: SENATOR, ONE OF THE NOW STUDENTS ARE LEARNING CREATIVITY SKILLS. >> Boitano: THAT IS A GOOD LEARNING. GOOD. IN TERMS OF ACCOUNTABILITY? WHERE DO WE BEGIN WITH SPECIAL TO TEST, WHEN DO WE TEST?

SAY THIS IS HOW WE'RE DOING, WE'RE DOING POORLY, WE'RE DOING BACKS. I AM STIMULATED BY THAT. AND IT IS LIKE TELLING A TEAM IN I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING >> Kate: YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE >> Boitano: I THINK WE CAN SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK YEARS INTO THE ACT. YEAR, OR TWO OR THREE UP THE >> Kate: APOLOGIZE FOR CUTTING IS A TRIGGER MECHANISM WHERE THE

>> Maple: WE HAVE A SCHOOL IMPLEMENTATION, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVE IN THEIR HEAD IS SOMEHOW AND TAKE OVER A SCHOOL AND ALL ABOUT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHOLE COMMUNITY AROUND THAT AND WE HAVE TOOLS IN PLACE THAT >> KATE: LET'S TALK ABOUT LOIS MEYER, WHAT TWEAK WOULD YOU >> Meyer: I DON'T THINK TWEAK IS ESPECIALLY FOR NEW MEXICO. NEW MEXICO CHILDREN IN

LINGUISTIC REVITALIZATION, NAVAJOS, PUEBLOS, HISPANIC COMMUNITIES, AND THIS IS AN ACT, ACCOUNTABILITY FOR GOALS THAT THESE COMMUNITIES HAVE NOT I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR AS A BILINGUAL EDUCATOR AND A OF NEW MEXICO THAT ANY EDUCATOR ACCESS TO ENGLISH AND TO QUALITY EDUCATION. AND CULTURAL COMPETENCE. >> KATE: THOMAS KEYES, CAN THIS >> Keyes: I AGREE WITH LOIS, REPORTED IN THE TEXAS OBSERVER, ROUGHLY THE EQUIVALENT OF ONE

THAT IS SEVEN WEEKS OF SCHOOL A YEAR IN TESTING OR TEST AND THE SECOND THING AGAIN IF I FAILING SCHOOL? MY SCHOOL CAN BE MAKING GREAT STRIDES IN IMPROVING FROM YEAR TO YEAR AND STILL BE LABELED AS A SCHOOL -- >> Kate: I AM GOING TO CUT YOU NEW MEXICO GOING TO PULL OUT OF >> Maple: AT THIS POINT, NO. >> KATE: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURTESY OF THE ALBUQUERQUE A PHOTOGRAPH OF CRIME VICTIM DAUGHTER, ELIZABETH PEREA, TWO LA CUEVA'S BRYAN PULLEN PLANTS A SEMI-FINAL GAME AGAINST LAS

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FEDERATION OF TEACHERS, AND OUT ON THE TABLE AND WHOEVER SPECIAL ED STUDENTS, HOW WELL IS >> TRUJILLO: NOT WELL; FOR A OR DATA TO SHOW THEY ARE MAKING ANY PROGRESS IN ANY TESTING THAT THINK THAT THE EARLIEST RESPONSE THAT WE GET FROM TEACHERS, I ARE SHARING THAT THERE IS A LOT OF THE TESTING. DIFFERENCES AND A LOT OF

WITHIN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY OF THE TESTING AND ALL IT IS IT IS A GOOD PLAN GONE AWRY. >> KATE: DORA ORTIZ, YOUR SCHOOL EXPLAIN THAT. >> Ortiz: IT WASN'T ACTUALLY A PROBATION; THE ACCOUNTABILITY RATING SYSTEM. WE DIDN'T MAKE THE SO-CALLED 48 FIFTH GRADE STANDARDIZED STUDENTS ARE TAUGHT IN BOTH YOU ARE GOING TO ASSESS THEM IN SO IT WASN'T THAT OUR STUDENTS SO, WHEN WE WERE -- WE

SPANISH TESTS WERE NOT RATED IN THE SAME WAY OR WEIGHTED IN THE SAME WAY AS ENGLISH MEASURES. THE TEST WAS BASICALLY UNFAIR AND UNJUST AND WE CHALLENGED CASE. AND WE WERE TAKEN OFF PROBATION, STRENGTH IN ENGLISH, SOME IN >> KATE: THEY ARE LEARNING? >> Ortiz: OF COURSE. >> Kate: ANNALEE YDI WORKS WITH BE TWEAKED, CHANGED TO BETTER SERVE THE STUDENTS YOU'RE >> Maestas: THE STUDENTS THAT WE BACKGROUNDS. FROM THE FAMILIES AND STUDENTS THAT WE SERVE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT

THERE ARE LOTS OF SOCIAL ISSUES LOOK AT WHAT KIND OF CURRICULUM I SEE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND BILINGUAL PROGRAMS. POINT WHERE WE HAD ENOUGH >> KATE: WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE? >> Maestas: IN THE ACT, WELL, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE MORE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ACT IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH TIME WE GIVE ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNERS ALL OVER THE WORLD DOING STUDENT TO BECOME PROFICIENT, AND IT IS FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS, WITH WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE

RESEARCH, WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNING. >> KATE: CHRISTINE TRUJILLO, DO BECAUSE OF DEFICIENCIES IN HOW >> Trujillo: THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE DONE RIGHT. REMEMBER I SERVED ON THE STATE COMMISSION, SO EVERY DISTRICT REMEMBERS YEARS AGO TRYING TO CREATE A SYSTEM OF KIDS AND TRYING TO GET SCHOOLS CREATED A LOT OF, I THINK, UNMEETABLE GOALS AND DORA SAID HOW HER KIDS -- HOW HER SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE DETERMINED FAILING OR SUCCESSFUL. OWN, PSYCHOMETRICS OR

PSYCHOMETRICIANS WERE NOT DOING OUTCOMES, YOU KNOW, AND TESTING. SAID, THEY WEREN'T GIVEN ACCOMMODATIONS WITH SPECIAL ED, DO THAT. SOMEBODY TO BLAME AND THEY >> KATE: LET'S BRING UP ANOTHER IT TAKES 18 YEARS TO SEE WHETHER NEW EDUCATION PLAN; A NEW METHOD IS THERE ENOUGH POLITICAL WILL OUT THERE TO GET THAT CHILD >> TRUJILLO: I DON'T BELIEVE TO PEOPLE WHO WILL LISTEN AS AN

FOR GIVING US SOME RELIEF, THEY MADE GRAND PROMISES IN NCLB IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO WILL RECEIVE 112,000. WE'RE SHORTING OVER 4500 KIDS THE MONEY THAT IS GOING TO TAKE DEVELOPMENT. BENCHMARKS ABOUT WHO IS GOING ON AND IT ISN'T A PROCESS. EVOLUTIONARY THING, AND YOU MOVE THINGS PROGRESSIVELY, IF YOU WANT TO REFORM PUBLIC EDUCATION. OUTCOMES IN SHORT TERM BECAUSE >> Kate: SHOULD THE STATE OPT

>> Ortiz: I GUESS IT WOULDN'T BE PARTS TO THE LAW, CERTAINLY. ACCOUNTABLE TO STUDENTS, FIRST NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL. PERSON TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, IT THERE IS JUST NO WAY IT IS GOING QUALITY INSTRUCTION, AND TO HAVE TAKING AN INCREDIBLY INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME AND IT IS TAKING >> KATE: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME DISCUSS EXPERIENCES OF NEW FOR EVERYONE AT IN FOCUS, THANKS