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SRT Captions File Generated by MXFplus >> AMERICANS NOW SEE THE WAR

STRONG. FOR AUDITOR. PLUS, OUR PANELISTS ARE ON THE AND THE FUTURE OF THE VALLES >> I'M GENE GRANT, YOUR HOST EVERY NEW MEXICAN. AND WHITNEY CHESHIRE, BLOGGER FOR PUBLIC RELATIONS FIRM. A RECENT "NEW YORK TIMES-CBS" AMERICANS NOW BELIEVE THE WAR

BUT THE PRESIDENT THIS WEEK RENEWED EFFORT ON THE WAR, OF THE 21ST CENTURY." THE ELECTION. BUT I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU THINK HE'S STANDING STUPID. AND THE REASON IS PRECISELY THE WAR -- THE WAR AGAINST

EMOTION. AND THE REASON THAT I'M MAKING PART OF THE PROBLEM. BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHAT THE NOW FACED WITH IS HAVING TO WHY WE HAVE NOW INVESTED THE WOMEN, TO SAY NOTHING OF ALL AND THAT BUSH IS NOW BEING I THINK THAT THAT'S THE ESSENTIAL QUESTION. I THINK THAT MANY PEOPLE COULD I THINK PEOPLE MIGHT EVEN HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, SOME TOLERANCE

BUT IRAQ, I THINK, IT REMAINS AND AT THE IDEOLOGICAL LEVEL THAT FOR A MOMENT. INTERNATIONALLY, I THINK THAT WE'VE JUST LOST SO MUCH RESPECT ABROAD. MODERATES, WHETHER THEY'RE INDEPENDENTS, ARE REALLY FUTURE. >> LET ME ASK WHITNEY A POINTS OUT, MIGHT BE A LITTLE >> IT DEPENDS ON THE POLL, THE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT SO MANY OF THE

MADRID AND NANCY PILOSI THERE. AMERICANS BELIEVE WE NEED TO IS, AGAIN, HOW IS IT WORDED? IF VOTERS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE YOU'VE GOT TO PICK ONE OF NUMBER OF ANSWERS; C, D, E, FIRST PLACE, OR THE IDEA THAT WAR ON TERROR, BECAUSE I DON'T ADS HITTING HEATHER WILSON ON THE FIRST PLACE, INSTEAD OF, AGAIN, DEMOCRATS NATIONALLY, THE STATE, ARE RUING AGAINST >> FROM A MESSAGING

STANDPOINT, THE DEMOCRATS HAVE SEPARATE THE WAR ON TERROR AND AND THE PEOPLE AT HOME COMPLACENT. MIDTERM ELECTIONS. WILL VOTE HOWEVER THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE, ANYWAY. STANDPOINT THAN ANYTHING ELSE. >> PAT, WHO GETS THE BIGGER >> WELL, I DON'T THINK CONTROL THE HOUSE AND SENATE. RACE. RACE. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED REALIZE IT OR NOT, IS A WE'RE FIGHTING A WAR ON

IT'S IN THE PHILIPPINES. IT IS EVERYWHERE; IRAQ. IN ISREAL. THAT'S TERRORISM, FOLKS. WHETHER OR NOT THEY MOVED THE ANOTHER STORY. HIJACKED THAT SHIP, THAT GUY WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO FIND HE HARBORED TERRORISTS. THAT'S WHY WE'RE THERE. >> IT'S INTERESTING, AT THE HAD ACTUALLY TICKED UP IN THE BUT IS IT? >> FROM THE P.R. STANDPOINT, THE "WASHINGTON POST" TODAY

IRAQ. NOW, IF THAT'S NOT A CLEAR P.R. ISSUE HERE, I DON'T KNOW THEIR STORY HASN'T BEEN >> THE PRESIDENT THIS WEEK WAS AND THE THINGS THAT WE DID OR MARGARET, IS THAT A FAIR -- >> WELL, I THINK THAT THE COMPARING DISSENTERS TO NAZI-ERA APPEASERS, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD THAT DRUMBEAT, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS THIS SUBTEXT OF HITLER OUT THERE, WHICH I THINK IS A MESSAGE OF ATTENTION, IT MEANS THAT, IN

>> BUT IS THAT NOT A FAIR WERE A LITTLE SLOW TO THE HERE? I MEAN, WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT ISLAMO FASCISTS, WHICH IS A MEAN, THIS IS NOT A WAR AGAINST A RELIGION. AND YET, THERE IS NO THIS TERM AS IF THOUGH PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN ALLAH ARE THE ENEMY. THERE IS NO QUESTION -- >> MARGARET, MARGARET, I THINK MAKE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THAT THAT WAS THE CASE WITH THE UNITED NATIONS REFUSED TO >> BUT THERE IS ANOTHER

WE KNOW THAT THEY WERE WORKING >> LET'S SEE HOW THIS ONE BOUNCE, THERE'S NO DOUBT ON McCAIN IS COMING INTO THIS NEXT UP, JEFF ARMIJO, THE MEETING WITH THE GOVERNOR ON INAPPROPRIATE CONDUCT. ELECTION COMING UP I BELIEVE WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO TO SPEAK, IS OVER. OR GET OFF OF THE BALLOT, HAS THING AS THE LEADERS IN THE BILL RICHARDSON UNDERSTANDS DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE BECAUSE

DOWN-TICKET CANDIDATES TO GET THAT'S WHY WE'VE SO MANY THEY NEED TO HAVE A WARM BODY AND THEN IT WILL UP TO LORENZO BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, IT UPON LORENZO GARCIA TO MAKE >> YOU'VE BEEN AROUND YOUR GOING. >> FOR AN AUDITOR'S RACE, YES, BUILD UP THE NAME RECOGNITION THE PRECEDENT THAT'S BEING SET OUR CANDIDATE, SO LET'S GO I KIND OF HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THROUGHOUT ALL OF THESE PUBLIC WAS GOING TO FIGHT THE NOT ONCE MENTIONED ANY TYPE OF

ACCUSED OF. HE CAN SAY, I THINK THIS IS PUBLIC CASE AGAINST HIM. >> IT WAS INTERESTING, THE WAS DROPPING OUT OF THE RACE, I ALMOST WONDER IF IT WAS >> I'M SURE IT WAS. AFTER THE CONVERSATION THAT DOWN WAS, HE WALKED IN THE DOOR AND THE GOVERNOR SAID, WE HAVE THE TRIAL COMING UP, VIGIL. WE'VE GOT THE POSSIBLE JAIL FOR ALLEGED KICKBACKS. BECAUSE I THINK THIS ALL DOES

NOT. >> MARGARET, I ASKED A EARLIER, AND NOW I'M GOING TO MAKE OF THIS CULTURE OF ANOTHER OPENING TO GO AGAINST STATEWIDE RACES? >> I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE. FACT, THE REPUBLICANS DIDN'T COME DOWN HARD ON THE STATE IF HE ISN'T GUILTY OF SOME SORT OF SEXUAL BATTERY, HE IS CERTAINLY GUILTY OF BAD I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE WAS -- >> 18 YEARS OLD. >> -- IN HIS HOUSE, WITHOUT YOUR BEHAVIOR.

WOMEN, REALLY LEARN, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT THE BOUNDARIES ARE, BEHAVIOR, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT ACCUSED OF SEXUAL BATTERY OR SEXUAL HARASSMENT. I JUST THINK IT'S INSANE >> SHE MAKES A VALID POINT. POSITIONS. >> YES. >> IS HE NOT MARRIED? THOSE TYPE OF POSITIONS, >> INTERESTINGLY, LAST WEEK BUT I'M WONDERING, NOW, HOW FUNCTIONING. TOM, YOU'VE BEEN IN CRISIS TRACK?

>> THE COMMISSION, I THINK, IS FAMILIAR WITH THE REPORT AS AND IT CAN'T BE APPOINTED. I'M OKAY WITH THE TREASURER. THAT'S ALWAYS, UNFORTUNATELY, I LIKE THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD THAT THEY'RE DOING, AS FAR AS PROPOSING THAT THINGS. AND WORK NOT JUST AT THE STATE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, CITY GOVERNMENTS. ANY TYPE OF GOVERNMENT ENTITY, THEY NEED TO HAVE HANDS-ON APPOINTED? >> NO, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS

GOOD CHECKS AND BALANCES. >> INTERESTING. WANTS $22 MILLION MORE FOR EDUCATION STATEWIDE, ACROSS THE STATE, OF COURSE, WHICH TRAINING FOR PRINCIPALS WHO SCHOOLS; MONEY ON EDUCATION HERE IN FIX HERE, OR IS THERE SHOW, WHOEVER IT IS KNOWS THAT APPROACH. I THINK WHERE THE PROBLEM IS, MORE MONEY INTO IT. BACK INTO THE LOCAL DISTRICTS. CONTROL OF THESE KIDS. MUCH.

>> WHEN YOU SAY CARING FOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS? >> NO, NO. >> EXPLAIN. >> HERE'S AN EXAMPLE. WE DO THEIR HOMEWORK, WE WORK SUCCESS, I THINK, IN THE NEXT MAKE SURE THEY HAVE RESPECT. >> LET'S PUT THIS IN SOME WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WORK LESS THAN $20,000 A YEAR. MANY OF THESE ARE SINGLE MOMS WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE DISCUSSION ON THIS SHOW ABOUT MINIMUM WAGE. WAGE.

WORKING 40-50 HOUR WEEKS, SO THAT THEY CAN DO EXACTLY THAT. DINNER TABLE WITH THEIR KIDS. KIDS. TO GET PARENTS INVOLVED, IN MAKE SCHOOL YEAR LONGER. >> WHITNEY, YOU'VE SAID ON MONEY IS NOT THE ANSWER. IDEAS IN HERE. >> LONGER SCHOOL DAY FOR >> YES, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK TO BE MORE A LITTLE BIT MORE PALATABLE TO THAN, SAY, PRE-KINDERGARTEN. THIS GOVERNOR HAS BEEN HERE

MENTION PARENTS IN CONJUNCTION BUT REALLY, WHAT EVERYBODY REALLY HAS THE PURSE STRINGS AND RIGHT NOW, IF YOU GO LOOK MISSISSIPPI IN EVERY SINGLE THE GOVERNOR TO COME OUT AND TRY AND SPIN ANYTHING THAT HE >> WE GOT A PRETTY GOOD >> YES, WE DID. >> I THINK ONE CAN ARGUE WHETHER YOU GET A D OR D-PLUS >> BUT THE AMERICAN FEDERATION >> FOR STANDARDS WHICH -- >> THE TESTING -- >> NO, IT WAS ACROSS ALL

WE ARE IN THE TOP TEN. >> WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT >> THE DEFICIENCY RESULTS THAT SPOTS, AS FAR AS THE 38 TO 40 PERCENTILE, IF YOU DRILL DOWN LOOK AT THE SUBGROUPS, AS FAR LOOKING AT ANYWHERE FROM A 5% POLITICAL FAILURE. THIS IS A SYSTEMATIC FAILURE. SUPERINTENDENT CAN CHANGE. UNTIL THAT -- AND I THINK IT'S PROFICIENCY RATINGS GO UP. >> BUT WE DO KNOW THE SYSTEMIC AND PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT.

>> CORRECT. FAMILIES IN NEW MEXICO WHO ARE IN THEIR FAMILY TO GRADUATE YOU WON'T HAVE THAT VALUE OF >> WELL, COMING FROM A FAMILY GRADUATES, I DON'T THINK IT'S OPPORTUNITY, WHICH REALLY HAS THINGS. >> IT'S EARLY. GOT SOME TIME TO GO ON THIS. TIME TO PUT OUR PANELISTS ON FASHION. GOOD.

CALDERA WILDERNESS AREA TO THE PEOPLE TRYING TO GET INTO THIS HERE. BIKES, HIKING, HORSES. GROUPS SAYING, HEY, WE PAID SOMETHING'S GOT TO BREAK. >> I THOUGHT THAT THE PICTURES I THINK IT CERTAINLY IS PEOPLE IN NEW MEXICO HAVE FOR WILDERNESS AREAS. SOMETHING THAT IS A TREASURER, NATURAL WONDER IS. >> SHOULD YOU ABLE TO GO IN YOUR FORD PINTO, THOUGH?

>> YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN IN, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME SHOULD TREK YOURSELF IN. THE KATRINA DISASTER. >> YES, THAT $122 BILLION LESSON LEARNED. OTHER TOP FIVE DISASTERS, WHETHER IT BE MAN-MADE OR NOT, UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A HUGE FIASCO, AND A LOT OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THAT. LOCAL GOVERNMENT, IT WAS A PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING, EVEN TO >> WITH ALL THE COVERAGE, AND

MAYOR NAGIN ON "60 MINUTES", >> YES, PEOPLE SEEM POSITIVE, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THEY COULD ORLEANS. LOOKING REAL BAD. >> ABSOLUTELY. FIGHT WITH THE SOUTHWEST A LITTLE BIT; IT WAS NOT YOUNG PEOPLE HOW TO BE ACTIVISTS. HE KNOWS HOW TO GIVE BACK. AND HOW IT STANDS HERE IN -- >> I DON'T THINK IT'S THE KIDS TO BE WHETHER OR NOT THIS I MEAN, LET THEM OUT ON CIVIC

HE DOESN'T OWN IT. HAS, YOU KNOW, STOOD UP AGAINST THIS MAYOR TIME AND TIME AGAIN ON ANY NUMBER OF BETWEEN THE MAYOR. IT WAS ABOUT THE FACT THAT >> THEY TOOK OVER HIS OFFICE >> YEAH, THEY'RE TOUGH. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND SO DOES THE MAYOR. >> THAT'S TRUE. >> WHY ISN'T THE ACLU COMING >> VERY GOOD POINT. UNIVERSAL SHUFFLE, LITERALLY, THIS WEEK. >> IT'S AMAZING, TALKING ABOUT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN TO LOWELL AND THE GUY THAT ACTUALLY

NOW THEY HAVE TO REDO ANYTHING, OTHER THAN IT'S NOT DWARFS TO WALK OUT WITH SNOW WHITE, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON. STUFF, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD THE BOOKS AND THE HISTORY AND LITTLE THING, AND HERE ARE ALL I MEAN, IT'S NOT FAIR. >> YEAH, I JUST -- I DON'T PLUTO, NO PLUTO, WHO CARES -- SORRY. THIS WEEKEND TO THE WINE MARGARET, THIS IS LIKE A PEOPLE. >> YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY TRUELY WAS HARMONIC.

ALL, I THINK THE IDEA, YOU KNOW, OF GIVING ALTERNATIVE HAVE BEEN DRINKING WINE, I TRYING TO RAISE THE PROFILE OF THOUGHT IT WAS -- >> AND BECAUSE IT'S ON THE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. >> EXACTLY. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, THERE'S ONE AT BALLOON FIESTA OR ARE THEY NOT INCLUDING THE >> THEY'RE GOING TO >> THEY'RE GOING TO GUESS YOU HAVE TO GET OUT AND >> THAT'S RIGHT, THE STOP IS >> OKAY, I WAS JUST WONDERING. >> SO THEY'RE TOTALLY >> AND THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE THOUGHTS ON TODAY'S PROGRAM, OUT OF GAS ON THE WAY TO

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