New Mexico in Focus; 1019; Death Penalty Debate

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BUT THAT COULD ALL CHANGE IN THAN TWO DECADES ON DEATH ROW HIS AMAZING AND HEART-WRENCHING >> SINCE 1976, THE COURTS HAVE THAT'S AN AVERAGE OF 35 DEATHS A DEATH ROW INMATES HAVE ALSO BEEN EXONERATED BECAUSE OF RECANTED OR PROOF OF PROSECTORIAL THAT CAPITAL PUNISHMENT DOESN'T

WHETHER OR NOT TO CONTINUE LEGISLATION IN THE ROUNDHOUSE TO DIED ON THE SENATE FLOOR. ONLY TIME WILL TELL THE FATE OF THIS WEEK ON INFOCUS DIDN'T COMMIT. RECENTLY TO TELL HIS STORY, AND PENALTY AND THE STATE OF OUR >> IMAGINE SPENDING MORE THAN OF MURDER WHEN HE WAS JUST UNUSUAL PLEA AGREEMENT TO FREE RAPED THE VICTIM DURING THE AND YET, HE STILL HAS A MURDER

ABOLISHMENT OF THE DEATH >> WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM, >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. >> YOU HAVE JUST, IN THE LAST >> YES. >> THAT WILL COME OUT IN MARCH. ASK YOU SOMETHING AND YOU CAN'T THAT YOU WERE A SUSPECT IN THIS AT THAT TIME? >> I WAS WORKING IN A BAR IN THEY ORIGINALLY CAME IN TO THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS AND STOOD TRIAL FOR THE MURDER, FOR THE RAPE AND MURDER. >> THAT HAD TO FEEL LIKE A >> IT WAS A TWILIGHT ZONE SHOW'S OFF, YOU DON'T GET TO GO

>> GREAT THANKS FOR YOUR GUILTY WAS A FAIR AMOUNT OF >> THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, A CLAIM THAT POLICE AND CONTRIBUTED TO HIS OR HER THROUGH THE UNITED STATES AND PROSECTORIAL MISCONDUCT HAD NOT JUST RESULTED IN MY TRIALS AND CONVICTIONS, BUT MY VERY ARREST. THE FINGERPRINT EXPERT -- I HIS ONLY KNOWLEDGE OF CORRESPONDENCE COURSE, LIKE YOU BUT HE AGED THE FINGERPRINTS SIX

TO TWELVE HOURS OLD. PROSECUTION BUILT EVERYTHING WHILE HIDING SWORN STATEMENTS, HIDING THE FACT THAT NOT ONLY BACK TO HER APARTMENT. THEY HID ALL THAT. AND BOOM, I WENT TO DEATH ROW, >> THERE WAS ALSO AN ILLEGAL WITNESSES. ONE OF THE KEY WITNESSES WHO THAT, AND THEN RECANTED THAT YOU ALL THESE THINGS HAPPENING TO >> BRUTAL. "TALK BACK," PRISON ISN'T -- THE

IT'S DEPICTED ON TELEVISION, PRISON IS PRETTY BRUTAL IN THIS I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF SAY, WELL, IT SHOULD BE. BUT I THINK, STILL, WE'RE HUMAN OF TORTURING PEOPLE. TORTURE. I WAS STABBED. JUST A LOT OF HORRIBLE THINGS. IT WASN'T A SITUATION WHERE CONVICTED, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T

CAPITAL PUNISHMENT, SELF-INTEREST GROUPS, SAY THAT A PERSON COMES UP FOR EXECUTION, THAT. BECAUSE THE APPELLATE SYSTEM ISN'T ABOUT GUILT OR INNOCENCE. FOUND YOU GUILTY. COMES INTO PLAY ON THE APPEAL LEVEL. SO IT'S A LITTLE MANIPULATIVE HAD THEIR CASE REVIEWED ALL THE MEXICO SUPREME COURT, AND THEY GUILTY. NOT YOU HAD A FAIR TRIAL. LANDED THE BOOKS AND SO FORTH MISCONDUCT, AND THE FACT THAT I

HAD TWO DIFFERENT TRIAL JUDGES WHO, WHILE ON THE ONE HAND RULED WITHOUT IT, AND THEN REFUSED TO ONE HUNG JURY CONVICTED ME AND ON THE TRIAL COURT'S RULING THAT THE MISCONDUCT, SAYING IT WOULD >> IT'S INTERESTING HOW YOU COURT REINSTATED THE DEATH THEM BECAUSE HE HAD DECIDED PRISON LIFE WAS SO HORRIBLE, HE >> YEAH. AND I SAID JUST LAST LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE BECAUSE WE TRUST THE GOVERNMENT WITH THE HAS SHOWN THE AMERICAN PUBLIC

THAT SERIOUS MISTAKES ARE BEING MADE WITH THE DEATH PENALTY. IT'S HAPPENED. WE HAD ALREADY EXECUTED SOMEONE INNOCENT. BUT WHAT DID YOU ASK ME ABOUT >> DID YOU EVER COME TO THE >> OH, YEAH. MUCH EASIER THAN SENTENCING SOMEONE TO DEATH, BECAUSE DYING IT'S LIVING THAT'S HARD. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR NEW MEXICO. AWARE OF, IT'S VERY BRUTAL. AND I WAS SO DEPRESSED IN THAT I TRIED TO KILL MYSELF

THREE TIMES, BECAUSE I HATED IT. >> YOU'VE MENTIONED A PLAY. IT'S CALLED "THE EXONERATED." ALBUQUERQUE AT THE TIME WE'RE YOURS. >> MINE. >> YOU EVEN PERFORMED IT, >> RIGHT. >> THAT HAS TO BE EMOTIONALLY >> IT WAS. I STARRED IN THE THE HAMPTONS, LONG ISLAND, AND I GOT THESE RAVE REVIEWS. WOULD BE STORMING INTO MY HOTEL ROOM SAYING, "KERRY, LOOK AT WHAT THEY SAID? YOU'VE GOT RAVE ROLE FOR ACTORS, THEMSELVES, AND KERRY MAX COOK, WHO SPENT 23 YEARS ON DEATH ROW, HOLDING HIS BUT DIFFERENCE IS, I WASN'T I WAS RELIVING MY STORY EACH AND

AND MY STORY IS PRETTY INTIMATE, MY BROTHER'S MURDER IS IN THE AND IT GOT TO A POINT TO WHERE I I STOPPED. FROM FROM IT, IT WASN'T ABOUT THAT. HAPPENED TO ME WITH THE AUDIENCE SO I STOPPED DOING IT. >> YOU MENTIONED YOUR BROTHER'S YOU ARE A DEATH PENALTY FOE. SHOULD HAPPEN TO YOUR BROTHER'S >> YEAH. FOR A LONG TIME, I AND I UNDERSTOOD VICTIMS OF CRIME, PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST A LOVED ONE, AND FOR A LONG TIME,

BROTHER, HE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO ENJOY LIFE, EITHER. CAPITAL PUNISHMENT BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO ME, PER SE. CONVICTED, HOW EASILY IT WAS TO SEND ME TO DEATH ROW. WHETHER IT'S NEW MEXICO OR BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED TO ME, I THE TRUTH. BUSINESS OF MURDERING INNOCENT

SO DANGEROUS, WE CAN'T EVER LET BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT TO EXECUTE SOME INNOCENT PEOPLE, >> LET ME THROW A QUESTION AT WHILE YOU WERE ON TEXAS DEATH YOU HAD TO WRITE THE GOOD-BYE ASSUMING THAT EVERY ONE OF THEM PROPERLY, WHAT DID SOCIETY LOSE BY EXECUTING THEM? >> WHAT DID SOCIETY GAIN BY WHAT ABOUT THE CHANCE THAT JUST OR SON, OR FATHER, OR YOUR LOVED DO YOU KNOW? ONE OF THEM WAS INNOCENT -- OR I NATIONAL CASES IN THOSE 141 WHO

GARY GRAHAM WAS ONE OF THEM. LEONEL HERRERA WAS ONE OF THEM. IN THEIR CASES, AND THEY WERE BUSINESS OF KILLING, I MEAN, SHOULDN'T -- WHEN WE PUT SOMEONE DOUBT? PERSON SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH OR SOMEONE COULD POTENTIALLY BE DEATH. >> IS THERE ALSO AN ELEMENT IN CHANGE THEMSELVES? >> I DON'T KNOW. WELL.

SOCIETY. THE TIME AND PONDER WHETHER OR GOING TO CHANGE PEOPLE. JUST SIMPLY DON'T WANT THEM OUT HORRIBLE CRIME. SO WE'RE NOT THAT TYPE OF ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE >> THAT SAYS SOMETHING SAD >> IT SURE DOES. BOULDER, COLORADO. >> NOW, THAT SAID, WHEN AT THE DEATH ROW IN HIS STATE. >> YES, HE WAS. >> THIS IS A REPUBLICAN LIKE 130 INMATES IN HIS STATE. >> 167. >> 167. COURAGEOUS ACT FOR ANY REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR.

>> YEAH, YEAH, BECAUSE A LOT OF ON IN ILLINOIS WAS THE EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE. THERE IS A MINI ILLINOIS GOING ON. BUT PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE FOR A HERE IS A GOVERNOR WHO TOOK A DECISION, BUT HERE IS A STATE FREED 13 AS INNOCENT. 11 EXECUTED; 13 FREED INNOCENT. THAT'S A PRETTY STAGGERING STATISTIC. POSSIBLY INNOCENT.

OH, OUR MISTAKE; SORRY, SORRY. IT WAS A COURAGEOUS DECISION. OPENED UP. AND IN HIS DEPARTING SPEECH, HE SAID SOMETHING AT NORTHWESTERN NO LONGER TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT >> DO YOU HAVE ANY FAITH AT ALL >> SOME. MAYBE ON A TRAFFIC LOT OF STUFF GOING ON THERE. BUT IT'S SO POLITICAL. AND WHAT SETS US APART FROM THE IT'S SO POLITICAL. IN EUROPE, CRIMES HAPPEN, AND AND CAMERAS AND COURT TV'S GOING ON, WHICH INFLUENCES AND EFFECTS OUTCOMES OF THINGS.

SENDING THEM TO PRISON WHERE THIS IS GETTING MORE AND MORE THE OJ SIMPSON CASE, HE WAS WITH MARSHA AND CHRISTOPHER DARDEN DOING THEIR HAIRSTYLES, I MEAN, THIS IS A MACABRE HE WAS GUILTY, AND THAT'S IT. MONTHS TRIAL, AND THE RESULT IS AND THIS GUY, CARR -- I DON'T THIS POINT. SOME THINGS ARE COMING OUT. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I LIKE WHAT FATHER, WHO WAS RAPED AND

THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT CHILDREN ON CNN THE OTHER DAY, AND IT WAS NEWS, TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT'S PSYCHOLOGIES AND STUFF, AND HE'S HIS YAHOO IS DECEMBER 25TH, SHE DIED, AT YAHOO.COM. AND RICHARD KLAAS, WHO IS A STRONG LAW ENFORCEMENT HE SAID, YEAH, YOU KNOW, NANCY, I MEAN, THEY GO IN, THEY DO WITH THE LITTLE KIDS, RAPE, ODD.

AND I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S AND IT GOT ME TO THINKING ABOUT IT, THINKING, BECAUSE I DON'T WHAT YOU HEAR OR WHAT YOU READ. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU. >> YES. >> HE WOULD CORRECT ME, THAT >> YES. >> WHAT DO YOU TELL HIM ABOUT >> I GO TO SWITZERLAND EACH AND >> I GO TO SWITZERLAND EACH AND AND LAST YEAR I TOOK K.J. WITH SO HE WAS FIVE, AND WE WERE -- I GONE DOWN ON THIS BEAUTIFUL MOUNTAIN, HIKING WITH HIM.

BUT I DIDN'T HAVE A BABYSITTER. JUST THAT REASON, TO WATCH HIM, HAVING TO DO EVERYTHING AT THE LAST MINUTE. WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS OCCUR. I'VE GOT A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE MISCONDUCT AND DIFFERENT THINGS, MENTIONED, ILLEGALLY EVIDENCE SHOWED I WAS INNOCENT, BUT IT'S ONE THING FOR ME TO SAY AMERICAN PUBLIC, HOW IT HAPPENED >> HOW DID K.J. REACT TO THAT? >> THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. I WAS REALLY KIND OF NERVOUS HE'S GOTTEN TO WHERE HE CAN TALK

SAY. HE SAID, "DADDY, WHY WERE YOU IN A STEEL CAGE?" HE HAD SEEN MY PRESENTATION A AND I SAID, "K.J., WHEN YOU GET AND HE STOPS DEAD IN HIS TRACKS WHY WERE YOU IN A STEEL CAGE?" MOVE. HE JUST SAT DOWN. IT WAS STRANGE. AND HE WASN'T GOING ANY FARTHER STEEL CAGE, POLICE OFFICERS. LIKE, "I DON'T LIKE THE POLICE, DADDY," AND THAT REALLY BOTHERED DOWN THAT DAY IN JULY OF LAST SAID, K.J., POLICE ARE GOOD,

THERE'S GOOD POLICE. THEY WERE MORE INTERESTED IN AND HE SAID, "WELL, I DON'T LIKE POLICE." AND I HAD TO REHABILITATE HIM. POLICE. BECAUSE I DON'T TRUST POLICE, SO I MADE IT LOOK LIKE, YOU POLICE, AND THEY ARRESTED ME AND SO I STAYED IN A STEEL CAGE FOR HE SAID, "DADDY, I'M BATMAN. I CAME IN THERE AND I KNOCKED AND HE SAYS, "LET'S GET A PLANE

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