Albuquerque Police Department; APD Tape 37

weeks because butter has been very coy and thirty cows the pga tour was a misleading name a position named cj hannigan and i'm the director of training for the albuquerque police department a brief history

of the academy was talking to this incident there for the reasons of course is your before your first course was when we actually can i spoke with the sheriff outage i'm not sure if you're familiar with sheriff joe about it but he was actually in one of the very first academies he was in the third academy and that started down the third academy was and fifty seven march of nineteen fifty seven so square while ago i am and i talked to join one of the things he talked about was that you know back then there really was no structure to the train in of course won the albuquerque police department's first heard having training they weren't sure what avenue they want to take it and he said number one they didn't wear uniform there was no standards there was no procedures rules and regulations are basically it was just the la classroom they showed up it was no that was no physical training that are still running there was no we training

are he said the extent of any kind of physical training just like tumbling exercises and i found that kind of interesting but again back back in the late fifties as one for stardom academy all they were really concerned with back then was trying to pass on the academics of police work there was a firearms training a hand against the resource damages for his uniform haircuts things of that nature and really when when the officers he can easily a weeks long and windy and vigils graduated from the police academy they went directly to the street and died basically there was no cars there was no walkie talkie they were given a badge and a gun and they had an understanding of basic understanding of what was more to enforce but down there were also given a dying and they were told to call it every hour so again the other so many things that were different and that the training didn't incorporate kiki training computer

training defensive tactics training physical training are community oriented policing training nothing of that nature however one thing they did talk about was that joe talked about was that actually there was community policing because they did walking pizza that's colonel going back to an hour walking and so it's interesting to see i am but we kind of come full circle that was back in the fifties late fifties as for bridges isn't there was one thing that impressed me was the use of summer's leg of this group of actors the seventies there is really of your own life it susana childers the illnesses such over the world the whole essential for me you know there were other officers were suspicious you know the sophisticated sure when i came

on the department's seventy nine you weighed seventy nine and we still didn't really have sonar in training and i think it's something that's developed lee and one of the things that we're trying to incorporate incorporate right now this academy is we're trying to do much more scenario training that we've ever done and sort of martyr and i just started bringing that online with with her training academy what we have experienced i've been out here for three years as the director and what we have experienced is we were taking all these individuals are pretty much for the most part just putting them in a classroom context for weeks and weeks and weeks to be exact someone of seventeen to twenty weeks and then we would do two days of scenario train and what we were finding is everything that these individuals were talks over the last eighteen to twenty weeks could possibly be remembered at the very end for two days of training and with the help of tom sergeant you're hewitt from the phoenix police department the way we've been redeveloping our content curriculum is working to start training and faces we did that with the seventy seven class

where they will be trained for about five weeks with a certain goal in mind to be able to do a minor traffic stop to be able to do with the low level person antagonistic on to write a report to write a citation contagious basic low level skills and then at the end of that five weeks they will be required to demonstrate through scenario training on what they learned and of course what we found is that and i think everyone really knows this is that it's much better to train someone through practical application that is to have them sit in a classroom for twenty weeks so that's really the whole philosophy all we're doing is where we're kind of looking at it as a medical armed school approach we don't just look at what is wrong and he'll just teach for one part of the body you know like how to do an appendectomy but you look at the general area and then i knew teach through that so the second phase of course would be escalated and then we go to a higher degree of proficiency that is expected of trained

for and were looking at three groups of scenario training and five phases well in those days the cabin injuring is that it's the dynamic you know it's a dynamic humans it's not static for instance one of the supporters that you do there at the beginning of the film registry was putting together your solace in one year you were making changes and tweaking it even isn't so in europe that they showed me that even though they're expressing you know was it this is a dynamic mccain is that this is an ongoing narrowing or less well i think it's real important are one of the commitments that i need to training is that i would provide the best training available not only

for our the academy cadet training but for incumbent officers and i think won force that has become one of the most challenging professions in the country and you need to stay on top of things so on my commitment was that we would provide the best training available what we came to realize is that it wants course the profession and the academy one of the things we have been doing is that we have been teaching what we always target and that we weren't redeveloping or curriculum and that we were really staying on top and that things were getting outdated and some classes really did pertain any longer and certainly there was a whole multitude of areas that needed to be addressed we need to have things from the outside impact as the new mexico state legislature the federal government or show off the mayor's office the chief's office whatever is going on in society today and whenever these officers are going to be faced with on the streets they need to train for

and so on i think in general our cops had a tendency to be resistant to change and i'm certainly not you know i am above that are beyond their i'm actually part of a it's kind of hard to go back and look at what you've always done and say let's change that and i think especially with sergeant orders the class sergeant and sergeant hashim with the insurgents sergeant got a lot of it experience and a lot of progressive ideas and so we've been really just experimenting as far as what can work and what isn't one of the things that i felt very beginning taking those jobs it would be tremendous sponsor the only armed you know as a supervisor you're responsible for other people and just yourself a hands on to be responsible for training police officers was a tremendous burden and responsibility one that i never took lightly and really the thing that made it easy for me was having such an incredibly high

level of dedication and commitment experience in my staff and together we just keep refining in which might we're trying to provide the best training we can and we're trying to be you know one of the best police academies in the country and you don't always know what's the right approach and what is the right answer but they're certainly willing to to try things and incorporate different ideas so we're very especially now very static in or trying to you know the soviet assembly want you are now where would say we see something some of the messages you know not herself as a close or for a wine is it necessary but wasn't necessarily to instill a sense of discipline and into a big event om of course our philosophy and

cutting one of the staff only to the chief of police and what we're trying to do here at the academy's were trying to prepare these young men and women for the job they're going to do or trying to do it in an environment where they will be safe on i think especially the public looking at what happened in la along with the bank robbery that would fall into the bad guys were wrapped in body armor and they were armed with at forty seven rifles they had numerous thousands and thousands of rounds of ammunition and what we have to prepare for at the academy is the worst possible scenario and yes for the most part d in and day out on the job duties responsibilities of the self serving that entail that kind of encounter but we want every single officer to know within him or herself that if they ever are in the fight for their life or if they're ever engaged in the use of deadly force but they have that mindset that they can survive and it's very important for us to know that these officers are in a position where they can go out and do the job in every capacity of a law

enforcement officer where they can deal with the community with dignity respect where they have moral courage where they have a high level of professionalism and where they have survival skills and if we train them at the best possible level for them to be able to go home at the end of the show because that is the most important thing to me in training law enforcement officer is that they go home to their loved ones at the initiative bottom line he's graduating ten was one of our police officers he had spent twenty years on the department and he spent the majority of his career in the field he's spent years in dwi he spent eight years on our swat team it's been a couple years ago and towards the end of his career he had had a heart attack and he had to leave well shortly after the first heart attack he had

a second heart attack and he died as a police officer very young he was only forty six years old roger in the minds of many people displaced permit that knew him once the highest level of integrity respect pride fairness compassion and had an incredible sense of humor roger was extremely dedicated to his wife in his five children and he was incredibly dedicated to this profession of law enforcement and we felt that was very befitting to rededicate the academy in his honor upon his death because this is what we wanted our cops to be like to be like graduate to have his dedication to have his commitment not only to his job but to his family to have his sense of humor and he was one of the best parts of the other critically storm has ever seen only those of that will lead to our curators of

leverage is this question will there's jeremy there is in a really interesting way the university placed but what us commando reason there's a live yesterday mike huckabee yesterday are caught you will be a video package on tv does not end up all the old from cervical happens and this came up in north say this was billed as the situation is now but then you add in comparison what every band you with your ocelot mayor mclaughlin says but it wasn't two years there's a major role in it dan baum i have no concern for hill well it seems that bosses overstepping they're suspicious of

the people with now i mean you're in a larger them to citizens that you know there was a lot of nuances secure what happened and was out of view of the situation and obama was elated he has a go to from what i've seen from him as a journalist in war hero i mean it's your visitors arrived you know there may have been caused by a bomb in progress was that roosevelt park in seventy seven in europe and i think that there's sort of this particular plot now that i said that there are some members of our community out there that say that you know that it clings is too aggressive that it that it's you know that there's a

schism you know between armed officers they feel that there's a schism between the officers aaron poe europe and some members of the community in one eye and so it's sort of ok well i was born and raised in chicago i grew up and cook county's unaware of few big city politics in big city corruption and pleased permits it honestly believe that the albuquerque police department has a very high level professionalism however i mean in reality we're all human and we all make mistakes in none of us are above the law i think that for the most part and in the community and that's what makes the job of being a place of serene so difficult is that it's so diverse a classic example when i was in the horse mounted unit and i work the state fair i would say right at the entry to midway and one hand you'd have all again members hang out and write and for me i'd have a man and a woman

with her two small children and wanted to put the words and then two seconds later and have somebody who is either high on drugs you're using alcohol come up and one smack the orders you have to be able to be very kind and compassionate and sensitive and friendly to these individuals at the same time be able to deal with the escalating level of force and violence that's going on over here so it's very difficult when you're a police officer because there are a lot of different areas that we have to deal with one of the the area says use of force a hand arm one of the most difficult things that an officer has to do is be able to enforce the law be professional and still accomplish whatever is here she is trying to do take someone into custody make an arrest and at times officers do have to be aggressive and act aggressively what happens is and when the problems arise is when that level of aggression is beyond unnecessary level and that's one of the most difficult things to teach an academy context will pay one of the

things that i have learned is that how a person is raised what their background is what their morals are what their ethics czar has far much more of a contribution to that individuals a police officer then what we can possibly hope to teach them an eighteen week academy and i think the other thing is is you have to recruit good people you have to train them you have to discipline them they have to understand what the rules and regulations are i think one of the things that the albuquerque police department has done and especially with chief pollstar and deputy chief burgoyne when he was here is they sent a high level of expectation and that those individuals whether they were officers or whether they were supervisors if they didn't conform to those standards in those expectations they will be disciplined and i think as long as you teach people what is acceptable and what isn't it can conform to their forces always can be exceptions and i think in big cities like new orleans chicago new york miami when that level is a real high and when those standards aren't enforced as far as how aggressive you why houck says if you are forced to people i keep

pushing of boundaries and i think that's one of the things the albuquerque police department has done is we have set a high standard and that we are tolerant of excessive force on and aggression and reasonable aggression and so on therefore you're not going to see that behavior exhibit italy integrate proportion of course we have those individuals working to push the boundaries no matter what but more often than not what i had seen as if people are you know overstepping the boundaries they're being disciplined they're being suspended or they're even being terminated i've seen it more in the last for years three or four years as chief pollstar has been the cheek and then i have the entire time i've been around this department see a need to make it real clear what is acceptable and what isn't discrimination isn't excepted in an academy with its racial sexual sexual orientation anything on and then that is filtered out among the race and throughout the department the standard of set and i believe

that probably the most valuable lesson that i have learned from being a police officer being a supervisor is that you lead by example and i think it's so important we need good strong leaders thomas police department all week from the chief of police down to are our first line supervisors are sergeants the set the tone they lead by example and we as police officers our leaders in this community and every call that we go on we represent the institutions of law enforcement we represent the albuquerque police department and that every call we go on we are leaders in this community people look up to us and so it's all to me it's all about leadership do it david the fight that and let's

talk about believing that example also reveals really hit the no excuses the us versus them mentality you know well see i love you so easy to adopt and bust versus them you know like prince's let's say the board ruled remember a beer and as soon as that ona certain come in and immediately with patrons would you please the media witnesses the introduction of a person in uniform days though you know whether it's like they have a bonfire mccain you know there wouldn't be in texas

it also said that one of the exhibit mr diaz no you know mr joe bennett sings about this injury and us forces them mentality that's exhibited by everyone well one of the things that very few it talks about in his cultural diversity training is that you know the police our force is is a subculture it's you know like the police culture and that's exactly one of the things that we have done is we have instilled this us versus them and really from having taught the problem solving training for community oriented policing and his department one of the things that was real clear is we went back and we looked at you know lead eighteen hundreds and what cops were then and where they came from and how they were top on training which was nonexistent then to be cops and then we went from the political error where you basically became a cop by political point it

was who you knew how much money was there you know what families new one and they were politically appointed well with tear that ever j edgar hoover administration that was one of his goals he wanted to prevent or to make a much higher level of professionalism we went to the professional air and there were so many good things about that you're trying to get away from how corrupt police well they would only ritual certain neighborhoods they would stay away from houses of prostitution if they were paid money on and that it was all corruption it was all based on corruption and money and power in politics we're trying to get away from that on been trying to make up so higher level that's when they brought in higher standards of recruiting that's really brought in on there's years of training and that's where we kind of in a good sense we wanted to professionalize law enforcement make it more of a ballad profession but what happened is we created an image by these high levels of training and what we

did is you know police officers know they can leap tall buildings in a single bound they can do all these things and calm you know they can catch the bad guys every time they can shoot the gun out of his hand that all these things that you became on shown on television and people got this image of cops we created ourselves and the public at this image and in a sense we're trying to professionalize but we're also doing damage because we put caps on this pedestal and being able to all these things and not only that they could do it themselves they just call the cops and they'll do it one community policing the big things behind that is that no we can to get along and that yes we do need the help of the community and that's the biggest thing we're trying to do away with in this organization is that us and them and then in all honesty one of the biggest areas that you know that was created was right here within the other critically army itself where we had civilian and swore and we've always you know kind of like harold civilians way down here they would

have at the bottom and you don't you're not a cop and you're really not that important your job isn't that important you don't get the recognition and you don't get the support and you don't get the encouragement and reagan just recognition for a good job it's like unless you're in uniform and out on the streets throwing the other bad guys in jail then you're not really as important so that's one of the things that the albuquerque police department and i think again chief polls ours really trying to to do away with it to show that level of importance and civilians and then do a with the us and then you know where cops and you're not there's a little ziggy cartoon with two cars driving down a police car and the ziggy and does the cops and it says on the side were cops and you're not you know and then we'd show that and are training and we really want to do away with that and i think that's the whole premise behind community policing is all we've been doing in the past for a hundred years is going from call to call to call and the calls just keep coming in the calls keep stacking but if we start involving the community if we start involving other

elements of government then it's not just the police response and it's not just a place responsibility it's the community responsibility because what we had done in the past hasn't worked for the last hundred years has as far as being able to deal with all the crying and all the violence that exists in this community city they're invading forces at his wife were the only you it so from now on i think in the very beginning when i was twenty years old lamplighter the albuquerque police department in my heart i was like many other individuals who commit another pretty pleased that they want help people on an act they're still the bottom line promised for me i have been involved as a supervisor

more with dealing with the officers on this police department and certainly in training i feel that i have a big idea to have a tremendous impact on the community by how i trained and supervise police officers again like i said earlier i believe in leading by example i believe that anyone who works for me that i should be in a position where everything that i expect them to do i am willing to do myself first and i may not always do it is one of the reasons why room with cadets every morning on when i was in the horse mounted unit you know i used to do all the duties and responsibilities that the officers had but a contribution to this community ii believe that went up when a person picks up the phone and they call the police that they're in a position where they need help and they want someone to respond that has compassion has intelligence that has integrity that has good communication skills in mind commitment to the department now is to do the best

job that i can in providing the training of these individuals and weeding out the ones that don't belong here don't belong in this profession so that we have upstanding young men and women who wear this uniform and enforce the laws of the sea no no in front of the state of western tolerance for this question basically every graduation i speak to the officers and i and i asked them to treat people with dignity and respect and to treat them as they would want to be treated as they would want to have a member of their family treated in that same situation i asked them to remember where they came from because i think it's so important you know you were always a police officer remember where you came from and remember the people that helped get you but to get there and asked them to be respectful to

themselves and to fellow officers into the community that they serve and of course i asked him to remember rocky wheezing ten a man those things that down those qualities that he possessed which led to the dedication of this academy in his honor strength discourage on his compassion his incredible sense of humor and his dedication to his family and his career law enforcement and then i just my heart lies out in the streets of albuquerque officers the men and women who work out there and of course for their safety because again like i said you know in law enforcement the bottom line is that to go home with the addition of this room one city and dance on these men and women are coming here are trained to to be able come closer