New Mexico in Focus; 1004; Area Code Debate and Privacy Concerns

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THE CULTURAL LIFE, HEALTH, OF NEW MEXICO. >> DIALING UP THE LATEST SCOOP AN OVERLAY? SO, WHY IS IT THAT OUR LIVES ARE YOU ..... >> THREE LITTLE NUMBERS ..... AWAY FROM ADDING A NEW AREA TOPIC NOW FOR MORE THAN FIVE

THAT DECISION WILL BE MADE BY THE OPTIONS IS JASON MARKS, VICE RICK ALVIDREZ, WITH THE GREATER OWNER OF AROUND 505 MAGAZINE, IN SANTA FE, BUT WENT THROUGH THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH WHY DOES IT MATTER TO EACH OF >> WELL, WITH 505 BEING IN THE FOR THE METROPOLITAN AREA, BUT IF NOT, WE HAVE SOME BACKUP >> OKAY. DOUGLAS? >> WELL, WHEN I WAS IN ARIZONA, AREA, AND THEY SPLIT THE CODE WITHIN A SPAN OF SIX YEARS WE

THROUGH THE SAME TYPE OF THING. >> AT LEAST YOU KNOW THE >> CURRENTLY IT IS THE BUSINESS HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION MAKES THE DECISION QUICKLY. >> JASON, HOW ABOUT YOU? >> I AM ODD MAN OUT. THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN NEW MEXICO ON HOW THEY AFFECT EACH OF US IN CONVENIENCE AND WEIGHING WHAT WE WHOLE. >> WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP IN DETERMINED THAT THROUGH SOME WHY COULD WE GET BACK THEN AND

>> WE DID WHAT WAS PROPOSED NUMBERS. FROM EXHAUSTING WHAT IS LEFT OF 505 AND IT HAS TO DO WITH HOW NUMBERS ARE ALLOCATED AND THEY WHAT WE STARTED TO DO FIVE YEARS RURAL AREAS BUT WE'RE STILL DECISION. CHANCE FOR PUBLIC TO GIVE US INPUT AND CAREFULLY CONSIDERING IT AND ALSO GIVING OURSELVES >> TELL US ABOUT THE TWO >> ONE PLAN IS CALLED OVERLAY GETS THE NEW AREA CODE, 575, AND

NEW PHONE NUMBERS WILL GET ASSIGNED FROM THAT. THE DOWN SIDE IS THAT WE WILL WON'T BE A LONG-DISTANCE CALL BUT NO MATTER WHO YOU CALL, THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS THE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. RECOMMENDATION. THEY DID SAY, IF YOU DREW A COMPANIES ON ONE SIDE OF THE EXHAUSTION RATES. VALENCIA COUNTY AND THEN OUT TO GRANTS, GALLUP, FARMINGTON IN WHAT IS AREA B AND REST OF THE

STATE WOULD BE IN AREA A. >> THAT IS THE PLAN, RICK, THAT ALBUQUERQUE AREA THAT KEEPS THE >> WELL, WE DON'T ACTUALLY BACK SPLIT BUT LOOKING AT 5 COUNTIES, KEEPING 505; THAT IS, SANDOVAL, AND TORRANCE COUNTY, REMAINING 505, BECAUSE THAT IS FRANKLY THE ALSO THE GOVERNMENT CENTER OF CHANGE TO THE 575. WE THINK THAT CAUSES LEAST >> WHERE IS THE PRC STANDING ON >> IT IS TO BE DECIDED. THAT THE BIGGEST COST OF AN AREA STATIONARY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT A LOT OF LEANING TOWARDS THIS

OVERLAY, BECAUSE THE THOUGHT EVERYBODY WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT TURNS OUT, FROM WHAT I HAVE AND THE PRINTING OF STATIONARY IF THEY ARE TWO YEARS IN AHEAD, THEY WILL BE PRINTING THAT HAVE A REAL COST TO GOING 80,000 INSTALLATIONS ALL DEVICES DURING THE ONE-YEAR >> AND THE COST IS $100 PER CUSTOMER. >> I COULDN'T SAY AT THAT LEVEL. CONCERNED ME, WE NEED TO DO WHAT YOU KNOW THE DECISION IS STILL

UP IN THE AIR BUT THERE IS A LOT STARTING OUT TO LEAN MORE TO SOME PEOPLE BUT IT IS NOT THE MIGHT BE. >> DOUGLAS, YOU LIVED THROUGH WAS THE PAIN SO BIG YOU WOULD BE >> I FAVOR THE GEOGRAPHIC THEY ARE GOING TO CREATE A NEW SOUTHERN, AND THEN MAYBE ONE FOR >> WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT AND OF THING. THEY WILL EXHAUST IN 35 YEARS LOOKS LIKE WE NEED ANOTHER AREA THEMSELVES BEING TIGHT AND THE

CURRENT RATES, 575 WILL DO US FOR 25 YEARS, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE US ANOTHER AREA CODE. >> I DISAGREE WITH THAT, SHOWN, PEOPLE DON'T ANTICIPATE EXPECTED THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CELL PHONES. YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED YEARS IN THE FUTURE WHAT >> IS THERE A CHANCE THAT LINE AND ON-STAR, THAT I WOULD >> THAT IS A POSSIBILITY BUT LINES SO INEXPENSIVELY, MY KIDS OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE IT

PHYSICAL LINE. BUT ALL OF THOSE NEED PHONE NUMBERS'S. >> ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH CONTROLLED BY RURAL INTERESTS. >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE UNHAPPY, SOME I WILL POINT OUT THAT THE WAY THIS TIME AROUND, IS DIFFERENT NECESSARILY GUARANTEE A DISTRICT TIME. IT THIS WAS UNFORTUNATE THERE ARE ACTUALLY FAR MORE CALLING AREA B, ALBUQUERQUE, THERE IS ABOUT 219,000 BUSINESS

LINES, VERSUS 122,000 IN THE OTHER AREA. THERE WOULD BE LESS DISRUPTION FOR THE STATE ECONOMICALLY NOT COMMUNITIES. MORE OF THEM IN ALBUQUERQUE. IS SO, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE GONE BECAUSE THE WAY IT IS SET UP NOW, YOU KILL A WHOLE BLOCK OF RURAL WIRE CENTER AND THAT IS PHONE NUMBERS AS SOME PEOPLE PEOPLE BUT THE FACT IS THERE IS WHAT IS AREA B.

>> THERE IS SOME MYSTIQUE WITH 505, ISN'T THAT RIGHT? >> WE LAUNCHED THE MAGAZINE RETAILERS WHO SELL THE MAGAZINE 505. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, JUST A PANIC AND WE WERE JUST FACT WE ALREADY HAVE A LOGO >> WHAT IS PLAN B AND C? >> IF THE METRO AREA CODE CHANGES TO 575, SIMPLE ENOUGH, WE'LL LIKELY CHANGE THE MAGAZINE TO AROUND 575. EFFECT FOR NEW NUMBERS, WE TAKE SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD EXCUSE TO

>> GIVE THEM A CELL PHONE. >> MAYBE IT SHOULD JUST BE A WEBSITE. >> THIS HAS BEEN AN EMOTIONAL IMPACT. SECONDARY CODE 575 KIND OF HAS THE SAME FEEL. >> BETTER THAN THE 975. >> WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME, SO >> I JUST CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO >> COME ON. >> FLIPPING A COIN FOR WHO GETS >> AS I SAID, WE NEED TO LOOK AT BUSINESSES ARE LOCATED BUT I >> I'LL JUST PUT IN A REQUEST >> YOU AND JOHNNY TAPIA.

>> THANK ALL FOR JOINING US. >> IS BIG BROTHER ALIVE AND FROM THE CORNER ATM, TO THE YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, OR A YEAR AGO. SUPPORTERS OF THE TECHNOLOGY SAY VANISHING. DIRECTOR JOE BOWDICH, WITH THE PAUL GESSING, WITH THE RIO >> THANK YOU, ALL FOUR OF YOU ARE THESE CAMERAS AN INVASION OF >> I THINK THEY CERTAINLY CAMERAS, VIDEO SURVEILLANCE

EXPERIENCE AND I THINK HERE IN RIGHT NOW ARE NOT PARTICULARLY >> CRAIG LOY, HAVE WE STARTED >> I WOULD DISAGREE WITH PETER. CAMERAS. WE HAVE ABSOLUTE CONTROL OVER >> HOW ABOUT YOU PAUL? >> I AGREE WITH PETER. NECESSARILY YET, BUT IN THE SPREADS AND THEY BECOME MORE AND >> JOE. >> AGAIN, I AM GOING TO RIGHTS. LIFE MORE SAFE FOR OUR CITIZENS. >> THE INTENT IS NOT TO

BEHAVIOR WHEN THEY ARE IN THEIR BETTER BECAUSE OF THESE CAMERAS? >> THEY HAVE ONLY BEEN THERE VIOLATIONS DECREASE ON A REGULAR THEY HAVE GONE DOWN. >> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, >> I DON'T QUITE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE NOTIFIED PEOPLE AND I DIFFERENCE AND I SEE A >> THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER YES, THE RED LIGHT RUNNING COLLISIONS DO DECREASE, BUT OTHER STUDIES SHOW THAT REAR-END COLLISIONS INCREASE AS PEOPLE BRAKES AND THEN THEY GET HIT.

>> WE HAVEN'T NOTICED THAT YET TERM TO REALLY STUDY THAT, BUT SPEED, AND NOT TAILGATING -- >> COME ON THIS IS NEW MEXICO. >> TAILGATING IS A VIOLATION OF THE LAW. YOU SEE STOPLIGHTS. >> YOUR CONCERN ISN'T AS MUCH MAKING ASPECT OF IT; IS THAT RIGHT? >> WE'RE CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY INTERSECTIONS HAD LIGHTS -- THEY HAD RED LIGHT CAMERAS. THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A GOOD YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ACCIDENTS DRAMATICALLY INCREASING REVENUE

WITH BOTH THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS 7.2 MILLION ANNUALLY FOR THE SPEEDING CAMERAS ALONE, IS ESTIMATED, IT IS OUT OF CONTROL. THEY NEED TO REDUCE THE FINES TO A DETERRENCE AND NOT GOUGE PEOPLE WHO ARE MAYBE MAKING A MOON. >> CRAIG? >> I THINK WE HAVE SEEN EVIDENCE OF THE CAMERAS CHANGING BEHAVIOR, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE INTERSECTIONS THE ONES WHERE WE TO THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE MAYBE SO. >> LET'S ADDRESS THE MONEY CRIMINAL, BECAUSE AN OFFICER IS ON THE SPEEDING SIGN IS HIGHER >> THE FINES FOR THE RED LIGHT

RECEIVE A CITATION, YOU HAVE TO HOW MUCH DO WE AS CITIZENS PAY THEY ARE OFF DUTY, MOST OF THEM WORKING GRAVEYARD OR THE SWING LOT MORE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO I LOOK AT THEM. THE RED LIGHT IS PAYING. >> I MIGHT ARGUE, THOUGH, THAT VERY DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM WHERE THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ALWAYS ON THE TO THE CITIZEN. THAT HAS TO BE A CONCERN FOR THE >> THERE ARE MULTIPLE CONCERNS BUT CERTAINLY ONE OF THE KEY

WHERE PEOPLE THAT ARE CITED BY A BEING CITED AS A RESULT OF THE SOME RESPECTS. ON WHO CATCHES THEM DOING THE ABOUT THIS LAW GOING INTO IT AND SURE THAT THE PERSON WHO IS AND FORTUNATELY THE CITY WAS NOW A PERSON WHO IS ACTUALLY ACTUALLY DRIVING THE CAR. AS LONG AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW, AND WE HAVE HAD INDICATIONS

IT, OTHERWISE YOU HAVE SERIOUS >> ANOTHER DUE PROCESS THAT COURT, REGARDING CITY EMPLOYEES, >> I AM SORRY, I AM NOT SURE >> WHERE CITY EMPLOYEES WHO ARE AREN'T GIVEN NOTICE OF IT, THEY WOULD AFFECT THOSE CITY >> THAT IS NOT A CASE THAT TALKING ABOUT. MECHANISM WHEREBY THE ACTUAL IF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS TRUE, >> I DID MISSPEAK. >> I WOULD HAVE CONCERNS WITH INDIVIDUAL'S PAY IF THEY ARE ON

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THERE WAS TREATED LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE AND DRIVING PRIVILEGES AND THE LIKE BECAUSE WE DO HOLD THEM TO A THAT ADDRESSES THE FACT THAT WE DOCKED PAY, MAYBE NOT THE BEST ACCOUNTABLE. >> I BELIEVE THAT IS JUST ONE A CITY POLICY. BELIEVE. >> NOT CERTAIN ON THAT ONE. >> WHERE DOES THE FOUNDATION >> WE GENERALLY FOLLOW WE LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE CAMERAS SHOW YOU ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT.

MY 80 YEAR OLD GRANDMOTHER WAS FOOTAGE OF THE EVENT. AND, SHE WAS AT LEAST HALFWAY AND YET SHE HAS A $100 TICKET SHE IS NOT MAKING A LOT OF SHE IS GOING TO GO FIGHT IT. THEIR RIGHTS AND THIS IS DEFINITELY AN INSTANCE WHERE THE CAMERAS TO KIND OF SAY, NO, YOU'RE WRONG, WE'RE RIGHT AND >> PETER, PAUL WAS ABLE TO SEE >> IT IS A TOUGH ONE. WHETHER OR NOT THIS INFORMATION

WE ARE APPROACHING A SITUATION MAKE THIS INFORMATION AVAILABLE INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND I INCREASINGLY THESE VARIOUS SORTS OF MONITORING OF OUR BEHAVIORS ON FREE SPEECH AND FREE EXPRESSION IN THIS COUNTRY, AND ACTIVITIES ULTIMATELY DEPRESS INCLINATION TO SPEAK OUT OR TO >> CITE SOME OF THE OTHER >> WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR LITIGATING A CASE OF THIS NATURE

PROTESTS HAVE BEEN TREATED IN THE PAST; NOT NECESSARILY UNDER THE CURRENT POLICE ACTIVITIES WHEREBY PEOPLE WERE WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE, PEOPLE DIRECT MORE EXPLICIT THREAT ON CONCERNED ABOUT AND MIRRORS COOPERATION IS COVERTLY INFILTRATING PEACEFUL -- THESE ARE ANTI-WAR GROUPS. INTELLIGENCE GATHERING WHICH >> WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE

PERSONAL PRIVACY? >> DRAWING THE LINE BETWEEN PERSONAL SAFETY AND PERSONAL PERSONAL SAFETY FOR OUR CITIZENS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING FOR; IS COMPLIANCE. WE ALSO HAVE ALL SWORN AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER TO UPHOLD THE YOU CAN GO ON LINE AND GET ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION ON PEOPLE INFORMATION AND IT DOESN'T COME >> HOW ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT SOME OF THE NSA ACTIVITIES THAT >> WE'RE IN A STAGE AT OUR LIFE, OR IN THE WORLD NOW THAT WHOLE, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO RESORT TO THESE THINGS.

GENERAL'S OFFICE AND STUFF LIKE GO COVERT. WE DON'T DO WHAT PETER IS GOING INTO THE ORGANIZATIONS AND PROTECT OUR NATION, PROTECT OUR CITIZENS, WE HAVE TO DO THAT >> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO EXECUTIVE POWER ON BEHALF OF ADMINISTRATION AND THE GREATEST RULING THAT WAS HANDED DOWN IN MADE THE EXTRAORDINARY CLAIM THE AUTHORITY TO TAP ANYBODY'S PHONE CONVERSATIONS AND E-MAIL WITHOUT ANY SORT OF JUDICIAL PRESIDENT WITH HIS POWER.

IN GIVING HIM THAT POWER, IT IS CHECKED BY TWO OTHER BRANCHES, LEGISLATIVE AND JUDICIAL, AND CONSTITUTION, JUST -- >> WE ARE ALMOST OUT OF TIME. MORE BIG BROTHER OR ARE CITIZENS ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? >> IN GENERAL AS TECHNOLOGY PRIVATE SECTOR AND PUBLIC SECTOR, BUT BOTH OF THEM ARE USE TECHNOLOGY TO KEEP AN EYE ON US ON, WHETHER IT IS A BANK LOOKING AT ANTI-WAR PROTESTS OR OF COURSE THERE IS ALSO THE FLIP RADAR AND SO YOU HAVE GOT THIS >> THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THANK TUNE IN NEXT FRIDAY NIGHT FOR

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