Illustrated Daily; 6001; John Nichols: Magical Realist, Part 1

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or a medium are an ecstatic experience is write novels and poetry and dancing or the theatre or whatever right i think you can speak to the police managing editor hal roach allow there is no other way to put it john nichols has all the makings of a paradox for saved by his admirers and his critics as alternately complex and incredibly simple body yet perfectly manner passionate the job i down left winger some accuse of being a closet capital s all of which conceivably could be true certainly one thing is clear at the age of forty

five john nichols for years now a fixture in towels is one of america's major literary figures and has been since nineteen sixty five one of the age of twenty for his first published novel the stock prices and made him an instant celeb yet nicholson literary career has had more than its share of disappoint my work real hard real hard work rewriting confirmed for a funny figure out there were about thirty five novel family probably the size of britain's most of the books that i have a terrible book the smell is be that as it may john nicholson is today is happy and productive as it has been in years just a week before we visited him in his house while he married the beautiful one event will go

second all of the signs of giving newly way professionally three years ago the script on which nichols worked for the coastal garber still missing starring jack lemmon and says he's basic won the academy award and just days ago john said his publisher a major piece of nonfiction on the mace the masons therapy i come to church being conspicuous horned larks their eternal presence through all seasons everything seems very soft disconcertingly fragile even when icy winds are blowing driving calls splinters of air into my cheeks causing tears that were my vision the mesa feels gentle loans just lie there forever i am granted such personal autonomy out here cleaned thing sing in the tempest rocks almost never budge ordinary beatles stand out as tiny marbles of clowns in locomotion coyote tracks

suggest the presence of a cool dispassionate hunter it's a triumph of nature's imagination radiance in every stage there's plans stalker grama grass it polished black rocks amid an ebony glows suggesting that just for now they're lighter than air you could just slip a hawke's further and to burnish the salt contours and tickle their blind eye and hearts they channeled it theirs anymore and so most stable like insouciance patients to hover inches above the earth tickled pink by the sudden freedom all the rocks are levitating i suppose coyotes will pat among the floating boulders in no way intimidated by the mysterious display of weightlessness hunting for grabs and drowsy snakes in the recently vacated depression it's been the last flare up of good customer alchemy dies away rock settled back to earth with nary a bump only then do i noticed that house lights twinkling rarely whatever happened to

that belligerent storm cloud for another celebrated new mexico literary figure did awful anna nicole's is your magic john nichols as a racy style slap dash very often of moves fast as a lot of characters to have to follow the characters is dialing pianos one of his strengths and that's been put in the camp go magical realism them know that that's an honor to be a mad cow because that's what's coming out of the latin america and that's what the year the world is reading today still his biggest problem i think in the beginning has to do with being an insider outsider he's a riot writer that came from outside the state and outside the hispanic culture and i wrote about the hispanic culture

especially in the meantime irvin feel more our immediate lot lot people took notice and said whoa you know can a writer who comes from outside from the east right about us the insiders were i'm not out to exclude anyone from our culture were none exclusion is culture his work isn't like been admired to the point that they're to qana critics looking at literature make room within chicano literature for those people from the outside aid non ci comma writer who writes about the culture and they call it the get up to that she can escape a lot of non hispanic writers are made the mistake of being afraid to answer than that fear begins to affect the work that's where you get i think that caricature is a bad history bad knowledge of the culture and john nichols is i think is a very

open person a very open later this as a family make mistakes but i might make a few but i'm not afraid of them because i've lived with these people and to create fiction we have to remember again that is not writing history and he's not writing sociology he's writing fiction well be a fiction or nonfiction real as mr magic serious politics or deliciously mr john nichols makes very good company scared to itself mainly in the day one report nearly three piece pierre cardin suit with the station we're doing well we tried that and still at the clinic since i was really a lot of either positive it included a picture of john nichols of the age eighteen nineteen fifty eight with linda boys i believe that the lender at the luminous prose

peron four hundred fewer squeaky clean those tapes era that's right how great the distance between here and there actually was in all the squeaky clean when i was unless i got in trouble for a home where my back i spent the first two years in detention let us go and prep school and road chip on my shoulder an analyst in trouble was killed five second to think how are you and the boys and men was a high school girl you know went out of high school girl's closet in one hand the whole prep school can a crown for example announced on a high school we moved around a lot when i was growing up and i went to high school and i was gone in the first year of high school in herndon virginia now skin straight a's in particular i really love because i wrote poems and short stories and stuff like that and then i would get a plus plus plus plus where i handed him on some kind of story to my teacher and in herndon virginia and then i went to lewis the next year than i handed him my for short story know my

first theme song like that band came back so covered with red pencils and i couldn't even read it and in fact my english was so i'm grammatical and so bad that they put me in a remedial english course to teach me how to read and write when i got the loomis right and ever after that i was a real difficulty in english and then when i got to college with hamilton college in upstate new york and the only major course that i almost monk was freshman english and i got some like thirty and the final exam because you know something they didn't or do they know something you did and they knew i was real eric i was real over it when his you know he had the ear what point in your life did you know you had the year that you were hearing things that were recording and i grew up in a family where they play the guitar and was a linguist i am i was like languages mean i love languages my dad was always speak in languages he speaks

russian french and some chinese and half french so my mother was french writer when i learn to talk and talk and french well and you know going back to listen to what i got to loomis i think french naturally to the lower her speak french and i remember the first semester was just talking right no books no grammar know nothing like that and i got an a because all it was you know political timing with his usual do you need to know about all that kind of stuff and i had a perfect jackson the very thing that's really great the next year i go in his second year french it's all grammar it's all reading it's no talking about right even the professor harley talks in class flint that i had a repeat french when i speak of violent year in the nineteen sixties for summer my grandmother is french and that made richie and spent she was married an arranged marriage when she was sixteen to a guy who is representative for

standard oil barcelona spain this issue spent from age sixteen at nine in barcelona as i go to barcelona spain and down when i got out of college the stand day a year living and has an information that three months that's all it took just speaking french a celebrity funeral for twenty four jewelry when you become a celebrity as you know and i don't think so i don't know what i was tony for whatever that book came out and emails splash and it was kind of fun and it was made into a film and the people pushed it around and the race to go read the new york times and in the role as an old picture and i'm not like other stuff and that lasted about six months to the second book came out is that long enough so like iraq and about the ocean's color was that loneliness that went nowhere and then for the next eight years and ten miles and go yeah but none of them got published and by nineteen seventy nobody ever heard

you know john nichols i was making any money i was broke and then the nineteen seventy and two hundred and forty dollars for the japanese translation rights is still cook and that was it then down then he's like you got an albatross around you neck the sterile cuckoo and this azalea you have hysterical mean i wrote the sterile cuckoo in the paleozoic a serious writer diablo there and the stuff you just go beyond it then about you could've stayed you can stand on the east shore of the coast places like new york state after oakland to you could become a media celebrity you were young your handsome you are today that we articulate your life i did that even though in the novel were the dial norman mailer's the young talks yesterday the brain's for you that you know i have a really smart for this and that could

come and i mean i got out of that kind of literary say mostly for political reasons that published them the sterile cuckoo and the nineteen sixty five right that's also the first year so you get really involved in demand and the more the deeper i got into viet nam i went went into a kind of legal culture shock a lot of people in my generation did that right than the more politically involved or became the more around that i don't know the whole literary scenes seem real factual us rioting very precious oh i started trying to write books that were very political and i have no scale added whatsoever and no training in the skill and i mean i want to write novels after a while it would end the viet nam war it was to the books i wrote real angry real nasty looks really into american

books for literary parties in my life right now we're going into a george clinton's how soon the whole paris review crowd know about kind of thing and are going to parties need and people like ralph ellison muriel spark and philip roth and all that comes in and people tell you read this could be the bright new literary talent us we were and then lie about it and they carry you along right in the drop in his bright young talent singing baby knowing when the last times and he says the city's time landing fall yet resilient as i was right now to go through the new mexico review as ours is governor as lady recently recently mined it for one day a friend assuming for using a believer was using the word shenanigans to describe his activities and his law firm and then this

it got dropped because he you own some put in jail i believe for embezzling alliance among firms offer you actually you actually what i ended up in new mexico rather shortly after martin luther king was assassinated and i left new york city just the day before my kid martin luther king was assassinated and sixty eight got out to colorado springs rented a vw beetle and started driving around i was so freaked out by what was happening in the country as a result of martin luther king's assassination and i covered about five thousand miles and five days it's just crazy right and i just drove in colorado springs down to town selling them to lord's word to douglas and then back up two hours only you know into for carlos san carlos apache reservations and stuff like that went all the way up into navajo country went to the navajo country of las vegas and the status in las vegas nevada and violence svensson time they're one up through utah and came back to colorado springs and just got on a bus went back to new york city never sign

a thing never finished the book analysis so so flip down those nineteen sixty eight was the hardest year in the life i remember you know israel says he's actually did you know the word in the vastness of calm okay we're living in new york city ruby lives life in a cave amr little tiny apartment on the seventh street didn't have any money and we are broke and a place to write the validation to door in a house to rent ahead on the bathroom because i was the only door is designed in a donut shop on the corner or the nyu and study carols and i was trying to write books in study hall in nyu and i'd sneak in a typing room and i don't have a student card writes i have to go and illegally and i don't know really the chinese the typewriters when i was so nervous about getting caught at that it was a hard time so we wanted to get out in new york we would do on a political work

and i didn't wanna stop the political work and i read a lot about new mexico was read now magazine that came out of espanola caller that was put out by women in his abilities a lot of that new mexico and so finally we made a decision to come out here because it seemed like there were opportunities to do the kind of political work that we've been doing in new york city it that was a hasty eighteen and a land grant movement and that was a time of a whole lot of political occasion in new mexico so he knew a few friends tried to talk about and that's why we came to new mexico also came to new mexico because it's a lot like new york and listen real funny but there's a real message ought to listen to enable watching the show that sounds very funny you know armed new mexico is is basically a lot of new mexico particular is a very beautiful yarn rural get out you know people are really poor people

here are just as poor as they are in new york city had a i mean you walk through northern new mexico is like walking his dorm room mansion in philadelphia bedford stuyvesant brooklyn the sox are chicago or cleveland just looks beautiful that people don't notice how hard life is and how much needs to be done and is our talk about missing i don't think a lot of people realize you about the last two years as well as the news clips for their last two japs of missing is there's a screenplay it got the oscar that year for what this is adapted screenplay oscar how come now i was arbitrary our credit that the writers guild i read that that means the army the writers guild has a policy that if a script comes in with more than two credits they hold in arbitration to make sure that the third or the fourth credit card bob deserve to be in the picture but that's real variable because sometimes a person can come in

and do just a minor amount of work which changes totally the nature of film makes it work right there are famous cases of people who have saved films are actually you know write on the most import part of the film when every democrat bonnie and clyde is one i forget the gang finally really brought that the electorate sees another oscar night you worked with one of my i think we both agree one of the world's greatest directors coast in congress did see which nineteenth when the funniest films of a mainstay to see missing in your phone with that this is a question of you know the family was discussed in congress like i just got a phone call out of the blue and at the california car because the guy was working on the family thing now all right is iran trade i got the law center's they hear me a script a limousine news near the train

station right now to remain in a limousine and slauson and that loses he's saying reading this gray died after this hotel i get to the hotel i stayed in and a half i read the script and then they don't recall kosta gara season the same until i column up you know so i finished reading the script uses bone lee says the global bell join and i spoke and i go downstairs to israel and i go in the road and i sit down and he says glen what you'd think back and i realize i'm talking to guy can hardly speak english right and he's sitting there and you know woody's caught little senses and stuff like that we start trying to communicate about this group now nothing about scriptwriting saw three the only thing to do just as real stray right so we talk for about ten minutes there and are finally he's searching for a word and then i didn't learn french because the friendship and he says

he stayed the whole say and as a region that is it brought all of our senior aides the guildhall say right so for the rest of the time when i worked in a missing he's got a new friend charlotte and talking back to address what i'm taking notes in english family were french riot i mean i always say this you can't do anything by word phrase grammar that's early seventies guys battling it in french i know i try to come back in a fraction of the time taking his detainees translator no it's in english writing in the voice of a very independent creative novels like yourself or accustomed to working alone cruz whose own voice own literary voices is admired by critics all around the country are making their voice match voices of a strong covers i would be very very difficult for the privileged was very you know so you know walking the baseball diamond can a football and they found their work in films i'm working in

films as a novelist the right thing whether things are brazil i love phil says i'm not going to be a lot of prejudices about boy oh boy you know novels is of great marriages can screw it up they make a film but i mean my feeling about changing novels in the film is you buy the book thrown away make a movie and our nuclear and man i mean that's that's then the second thing is if you're going to work in a collaboration so it just pretty low in your back pocket right and start getting into the you know the formula of the collaboration and basically you're working with a director tom you know cause the guards or cow rice or robert redford or louis now i can hire me tu tu tu tu just have free rein and my vision of the world i mean they're basically hiring me to be a facilitator they summon us from a great novelist gone to

hollywood and quote unquote been destroyed by one i do think that is really a sideshow when you know they chose to right i mean to get past the age of eighteen or twenty when you're grown up your big person riding in make decisions people started china made me feel guilty for work in hollywood the nsa would you tell us like i've abandoned the aesthetics of some great arno try to work hard in hollywood million in the word hollywood has this great connotation of lack of seriousness too much money and all this kind of dead to take a look but films that have been made in the korean the twentieth century i mean film is every bit as him porn ardor a medium are an ecstatic experience is write novels or poetry or dancing in the theater you know dancing or the theatre or whatever right lot of media war never really human edge of the bestseller reading the sun barely region will live with it and yet it is the space of a cult

classic i mean the cult classic is it i know college students who think john nichols probably one water and i can sing that is that today i think as russell what you like chemical classical in your hand it's nice that there is some kind of appreciation for the work and then adds that's real nice it's also useful in terms of and for making connections or i love just connections what did people stuff like that us a political connections part of the work is political some of the work is fairly overtly political and the fact that i have a reputation and carry a semi public reputation arms has turned out to be fairly useful

politically it gives me a little leverage and means that i can be more openly publicly helpful in a lot of areas to your voice over the voices heard earlier and it's and it's important to me and the boys from her recipes in politics here for this entire conversation i'm not satisfied that we can do this comes on tuesday right here and that i'm i see the night for us the scene in italy continues competition will cheer and we will continue this conversation more of it for joining us i'm hour of the night say it take care they say derubeis

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