¡Colores!; 804; A:shiwi A:wan/Belonging to the Zuni; Interview with Ronnie Cachini (Artist Working at Home with Family)

Did you know, to let your own friends in? This? No, I buy them at stores. No, no. Oh, and I finish it. Yeah, I like to frame my own work, but then of it is, you know, the frames kind of cost, not expensive, but there's just one shopping gal of it, sells the frame for your cheap, Quintana's discount frames. Yeah, some really nice frames in there, but I just don't have the money to frame them, you know. So I just sell them as these, but if it's like a special order and I know that person and all that, you know, I'll go ahead and frame it for them. No charge. I listen to music, just any station that I like. Sometimes I listen to country, sometimes rock, sometimes powwow music, these are all kinds

of varieties of music. Yeah, you know, instead of sitting here quiet and something to listen to, and it keeps me from getting bored. Listen to music. What's the, talking about the downside? Then we talked about the upside, so let's pick the upside. Yeah. At times, you know, when I finish a painting, when I finish a painting, I'll take it to a shop and they won't hesitate to buy, you know, they'll just ask how much I'm selling it for I'll tell them, they'll just write out a check for me, and that's

pretty neat too, you know, and just enjoy the gratitude of that certain individual that bought your painting, you know, knowing that they appreciate it, that they like your work, you know, it's just making the other person happy, I think. Did you talk about center pride? Yeah. Yeah, center pride. This is mainly keeping up with my tradition, so I won't lose it, you know, in coming future, you know, if for some reason they don't know what certain kachina look like, you know, with these, with the paintings,

you know, they could go back and look at it, and you know, copy off of it, you know, if they should ever, you know, forget what a certain kachina look like, you know, they can go back, you know, it's just recording history, that's what it is, it's recording, I'm recording the present day, but I don't, I don't include those in my paintings, the modern kind of painting, I'll put some telephone poles or a street light back here, something like that. Do you like it? Do you like it? Do you like it? Do you like it? Yeah.

Shall I look? Shall I look? No, really, she hasn't really gone. And I like, I like doing it. Flex stone houses like this, it, you know, it takes a lot of work to just, just by putting dimensions on it. Okay, can you back up please?

Okay. Okay, one of it comes out. Okay. I have to take a test. In ninth grade history. Oh man, I feel a zip come on.

I don't want to take a test. Sorry, it's not big deal, I gotta just fill one of those little plastic cups. It's not here anymore. Oh, I want to change my pleated guilty.

Yeah, thank you. This whole area was my great grandfather's land and there was no houses around here except for our those two we lived up there. But we moved down here when my parents hosted the Mart Headhouse and it was during Shalako, it was in 1778. And we've been here for about 22 years now. Okay. And this little neighborhood right here is like one family. My grandparents leave right there. It's my father's parents and my mother's parents right here.

So my uncle's aunt's aunt and uncle's leave right here and my other aunt leaves back right there, the trailer. And so it's it's more or less like a family little family community. Everybody knows everybody and and my parents bought it from my grandfather and actually this this plot right here was given to my my father by his grandmother. But my parents bought the one up there, the land of plot and it's more or less been handed down from one family member to the other. Is it making kind of proud and I still made you return a little bit? Put your hand at the front.

Okay. Is it making kind of proud to be here? Yeah, because this is just like community away from away from the village, the main village and peace and quiet you know nobody bothers us around here. And it's sort of sent to history here with your family going way back. Yeah, yeah, there used to be some corrals. Used to be a corral right here. Back of us, we used to play there when we were kids and there used to be an old car old station wagon. It was probably about 60. It was pretty old and we used to play around here and we used to have a baseball field right up here where my uncle's house is now. But we have quite a bit of history. My grandparents used to reside up there where my grandma's house is.

They tore it down the old house and they built that one when they hosted the Chalako in 75. This is a cardicate. This is a cardicate. This is a cardicate. This is a cardicate. This is a cardicate.

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