The Line; 131; Carter Bundy

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ONCE AGAIN. AND THE U.S. SUPREME COURT SOCKS OPINIONATED PANEL WILL TAKE YOU "THE LINE" IS UP NEXT. >> Steve: HI, I'M STEVE INCLUDES CHESHIRE. IS CARTER BUNDY, POLITICAL HERE IN NEW MEXICO. >> Carter: THANK YOU. >> Steve: WE ALL KNOW NEW MEXICO OVERUSED AND UNDERFUNDED. BERNALILLO COUNTY IS PROPOSING

INCOME HEALTH CARE PROGRAMS BY ADDING 12 AND A HALF CENTS TO NOVEMBER BALLOT, AND ADD 25 FROM THE BIOPARK TO THE ZOO TO THE THEATER. THIS TAX HIKE REALLY STAND A >> Gene: I DON'T THINK SO. THE HIERARCHY OF ART ASSOCIATIONS IN THIS TOWN, ARE ON A ONE-NOTE SONG, AND THAT IS THE THREE DEADLY WORDS OF >> Steve: THEY TRIED TO FRAME >> Gene: THEY TRIED TO FRAME IT TIME. FIRST OF ALL? THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THESE CAN GET EXCITED ABOUT.

RECEIPTS TAXES ARE GOING UP ON SO I LOVE THE EFFORT, BUT I >> Steve: WHITNEY, YOU THOUGHT >> Whitney: I THINK SO, QUALITY OF LIFE, LET'S GO FOR OF PROBLEMS WITH THIS. YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY GROWING AND WORKING AND PAYING BUT, I DO THINK IT STANDS A VERY AND WHAT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER DECIDE THAT, OKAY, LET'S GO THE DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED GOVERNOR RICHARDSON AND THE THIS IS AN OPTION FOR THE LOCAL

THEY WANT TO GET IN THERE, RAISE RATE IN THE COUNTRY, RIGHT NOW. >> Steve: YOU COULD ARGUE THAT >> Carter: THAT IS ONE OF THE REPRESENTING THE EMPLOYEES OF CAN'T AFFORD THE JAIL, AND WE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR" WITH DENIS PAINT ARE NICE, BUT I WORK ON I'M NOT SAYING THAT A COMMUNITY, BUT THE FIRST THING STAFFED. >> Margaret: I THINK WE NEED TO ABOUT, OR THE PURPOSE OF THE TWO AND THIS COMES OUT OF THE HEALTH

IN THE SPRING. OR MAYBE IT WAS EVEN IN THE INDIGENT CARE, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY BORNE BY BERNALILLO PASSING. >> Steve: THE HEALTH TAX DOESN'T >> Margaret: YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. >> Steve: SO I THINK THAT WILL >> Margaret: I THINK THAT WILL >> Steve: IT'S THE CULTURAL REALLY BURNISHED THEIR REPUTATIONS RECENTLY. >> Gene: AND YOU'VE GOT LOW >> Steve: THE BALLOON MUSEUM IS A DISASTER. >> Gene: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. GO >> Margaret: I WAS JUST GOING TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THERE ARE

STRUCTURAL INEQUALITIES IN OUR SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE. AND THIS KIND OF TINKERING IS PROBABLY GOING TO JUST EXACERBATE THAT. DOESN'T MEET EXPENDITURES, AND THERE ARE MORE COSTS BECAUSE OF I MEAN, WE CAN JUST GO THROUGH THAT ARE GOING UP. EXAMPLE. GOING TO HAPPEN. >> Steve: WE HAVE A VERY HIGH >> Whitney: EXACTLY, YES. >> Steve: IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME CONVINCED US THAT THEY ARE >> Whitney: I DON'T THINK ANYONE

OPTION ON THE BALLOT TO RAISE BUT THE PROBLEM IS, THE LEADERS TIGHTENING THEIR BELTS. >> Steve: IF THE VOTERS GET >> Whitney: BUT IT TOOK A IS SOMEBODY GOING TO MOUNT A TO DO IT, AND THE QUESTION IS, >> Steve: GENE DOES HAVE A AND THERE IS GOING TO BE THIS ASKING US TO APPROVE ANOTHER >> Margaret: IT'S AN AGGRESSIVE BIGGER PROPORTION FOR TAXES THAN HIGH INCOME FOLKS. >> Steve: AND MANY WOULD ARGUE >> Margaret: RIGHT, THE WAY THAT NOT -- THEY REALLY DON'T DO

>> Steve: THERE IS PROBABLY WORTHWHILE MENU HERE. >> Whitney: THE POINT IS RIGHT RECEIPTS, NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE HARDEST HIT WHEN >> Steve: BUT THE DECISION IS OF MONEY AT ALL. >> Carter: WE ARE HOPING THAT IT ONE THING THAT DOESN'T CHANGE POSSIBLE TAX INCREASES, IS THAT THEY MAY NOT DO THAT UNTIL RESIDENTS OF BERNALILLO COUNTY. YOU'RE NOW PAYING THAT ALREADY, BUT I THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE

>> Steve: WILL IT PASS? >> Carter: THE CULTURAL THING? PAY HIGHER TAXES FOR HEALTH CARE AND THINGS LIKE THE JAIL. TAX, IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH. >> Whitney: IF SOMEBODY GETS BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT >> Margaret: I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT WE GAIN A LOT BY THIS ESTHETICS KIND OF AGENDA THAT REALLY EMBARKED ON THAT I THINK >> Gene: AS IT STANDS NOW, NO. VERY AGGRESSIVE, "HERE IS WHAT >> Steve: SPEAKING OF ALLEGEDLY SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NEW MEXICO, LICENSE TO TURN RAW URANIUM INTO

NUCLEAR FUEL. DELIGHTED WITH THE 210 OR SO NEW ENVIRONMENTAL WASTE AND AND FOR ME, IT'S STILL VERY UNCLEAR WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO PLANT WILL CREATE WORTH THE >> Whitney: I'D ARGUE WHAT THE YOU LOOK AT THE ALTERNATIVE, THERE, THIS REALLY IS THE BEST, >> Steve: LET'S MAKE CLEAR WHAT >> Whitney: OKAY. >> Steve: THE PADUCAH THING IS THERE'S A $2 BILLION CLEAN-UP VIOLATED AIR QUALITY CONTROL. PUT IT IN A SHALLOW PIT IN

TALKING ABOUT HERE. >> Whitney: BUT NOT NECESSARILY BACK OF THEIR HEAD, AND THAT IS IT'S NOT REALLY WHAT WE'RE FACING HERE. >> Steve: IT'S NOT THE SAME KIND >> Whitney: EXACTLY. PROBLEMS, WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE HAPPEN HERE IN NEW MEXICO. >> Steve: THIS COMPANY DOESN'T >> Margaret: LET'S GO BACK TO WHICH WAS ABOUT THE JOBS. 1500 PEOPLE. THAT'S THE PROJECTION. THEN THE 200 TO 300 JOBS ARE LOW-WAGE JOBS FOR THE LOCAL PEOPLE, BECAUSE IT'S THE SORT OF OFFICE PERSONNEL.

BECAUSE THE OTHER PEOPLE REALLY WE DON'T HAVE NUCLEAR SCIENTISTS >> Whitney: THERE ARE PROBABLY >> Margaret: BUT THERE REALLY >> Steve: THEY WILL BUILD HOUSES >> Margaret: BUT WHAT WE'RE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE JOB. NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS, IS THAT IT REALLY DOES TAKE THIS HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF IT. >> Steve: THIS IS A BET ON THE >> Carter: IT IS, AND IT'S SIERRA CLUB MEMBERS. COUPLE OF ARTICLES ABOUT THE ECONOMICS OF NUCLEAR NOWER, AND SUCH A MASSIVE INVESTMENT, THAT

IT IS BASICALLY TAXPAYERS >> Steve: THESE ARE YOUR >> Carter: YES. >> Steve: I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME THERE IS NO FREE MARKET GOING ON >> Gene: THE INDUSTRY HAS SEEN A THROUGH IT QUICKLY, AND BEFORE WHO IS FOR AND WHO IS AGAINST. THE INDUSTRY HAS HAD A GOOD OUT, IRREGARDLESS OF THE ISSUES BUT THEY HAVE NOT REALLY -- TECHNOLOGY THAT HAS COME TO THE AND I'M CURIOUS WHY THAT IS. >> Whitney: AND THEY ARE NOT THE RADIOACTIVITY IS NOT GOING THE ALTERNATIVE, THE ONLY SO THE QUESTION IS, WHERE ARE >> Carter: MAY I SUGGEST >> Whitney: OH, LORD.

>> Steve: THIS IS A CLASSIC >> Margaret: ABSOLUTELY. >> Steve: EVEN THE DEEP STORAGE BE OPEN IN OUR LIFETIME. >> Margaret: THIS COMPANY HAS A THAT IS, THAT THE WAY THAT THEY AND THAT HAS BEEN A REALLY UGLY FIGHTS. THEY HAVE ONLY FIGURED OUT HOW THEY CAN BURY 60 PERCENT OF THE STAGE OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THIS LOW GRADE >> Whitney: AND I THINK THEY ARE WE ARE JUST GOING TO MOVE POSSIBLE. >> Steve: SPEAKING OF SENATOR FOR NUCLEAR WASTE, TO BURY THAT

IS GOING TO GO? >> Margaret: THERE WILL BE 31 >> Steve: IT DOES SHOW A CERTAIN SAY. >> Gene: SURE. >> Whitney: BUT I THINK IF YOU A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GRASS WILL SO AGAIN, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT ARTICLE ABOUT GEORGE-SAURUS, BUT WHO DEAL WITH THIS STUFF DAY-IN SAFE. >> Steve: THE INTERESTING THING PROMINENT ENVIRONMENTALISTS COMING OUT IN FAVOR OF GLOBAL STUFF. >> Margaret: AND IT'S REALLY ON HAVING A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF NUCLEAR ENERGY.

BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP A POLITICAL >> Carter: I KNOW IT'S NOT THE ARIZONA. IN THOSE TECHNOLOGIES? THINGS THAT DON'T RUN A LOT OF >> Margaret: AND IN WHICH THERE NUCLEAR ENERGY, AND THAT IS, >> Steve: I HAVE TO SAY, IF I TRIGGER WITH THE POPULACE AS THE DON'T WANT IT IN THEIR BACKYARD. >> Whitney: BUT I DON'T THINK I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE YOU TALK IN TERMS OF LOCAL PLANTS HAVE HAD JUST AS MANY

SO WE WILL HAVE TO GET ADMINISTRATION, AND WITH SENATOR >> Steve: EVENTUALLY, THEY WILL THE U.S. SUPREME COURT, WITH ITS LANDMARK DECISIONS ABOUT IT HELD AGAINST EMPLOYERS WHO EMPLOYEES WHO FILE SO-CALLED WHISTLE BLOWERS WHO ABUSES WHERE THEY WORK. >> Margaret: I THINK THAT THERE ARE TWO DECISIONS THAT WE'RE THE WHISTLE BLOWERS DECISION JUST GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT IN TERMS

THAT CAN BE READ. A LETTER COMPLAINING ABOUT A SUBPOENA, AND THE FACT THAT THE FALSIFIED. >> Steve: CARTER, THESE ARE YOUR >> Margaret: THEY ARE. BUT GO >> Margaret: SO THE RETALIATION CASE, I FIND MORE INTERESTING. LAW. WE NOW SEE ABOUT 20,000 CASES A EEOC. THIS IS ABOUT A FIFTH OF THEIR WHICH IS VERY DRAMATIC IN TERMS OF THE WAY THAT THE COURTS READ TITLE 7, AND BASICALLY SAID THAT WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO SHEILA WHITE -- HERE WAS A WOMAN WHO WAS WORKING, SHE DROVE A

FORKLIFT, COMPLAINED ABOUT SEXUAL HARASSMENT, AND WHAT THEY DID WAS, THEY MOVED HER INTO A LESS FAVORABLE JOB, AND THEN THEY SAID SHE WOULDN'T WORK. THEY SUED. AND BASICALLY, WHAT THE SUPREME WHERE THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS ARE NOT ADVERSELY AFFECTED, THE EMPLOYEE CAN CONSTITUTE RETALIATION. >> Steve: THIS IS GOOD, THEN, >> Carter: THIS IS A 99% GOOD ON THE FACTS OF THIS CASE, SAMUEL ALITO FOUND HIS WAY TO BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT CLAIMS. CLEAR. OLD STANDARD IN A LOT OF

YOU WOULD BE PUNISHED IN A THESE CLAIMS. THOMAS FOR JOINING EVERYONE ELSE >> Steve: IS THIS WHAT WAS GOING >> Margaret: I THINK THIS HAS IT WAS EASY TO MAKE A RETALIATION CLIMB, BUT IT WAS DIFFICULT TO PREVAIL. PEOPLE WON'T BE CHILLED IN THEIR DISCRIMINATION CLAIMS. >> Gene: THAT'S WHY I LOVE BEING >> Steve: WHISTLE BLOWERS ARE CAREFULLY, BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE >> Carter: THE WHISTLE BLOWER A 5-4 DECISION -- AGAIN, JUSTICE SWING VOTE ON THIS.

AT LEAST. ATTENTION TO THINGS THAT ARE OF OWN BUSINESS, WITHIN THE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE CASE. THERE IS NO ONE WHO CAN MORE PROBLEM THAN THEIR SUPERVISORS, LEAD TO YOUR INITIAL QUESTION, WILL THIS RESULT IN MORE PEOPLE PROBLEMS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN THAT THIS CASE WAS. SUPERVISOR ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY AN IMPORTANT PUBLIC ISSUE, A ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES FOR

>> Gene: CARTER, YOU WATCH THE THIS COUNTRY THAT HAS ISSUES, THERE ARE WAYS TO DEAL WITH >> Steve: DO YOU SEE FIRST >> Whitney: NO, NOT NECESSARILY. EMPLOYEES, FIRST OF ALL. THE WORKPLACE, EVEN WITH PUBLIC THERE ARE ALREADY WAYS IN PLACE THINGS. WE READ ABOUT DEALS WITH THE AND HOW DID HE DO IT. LIABLE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM BECAUSE HE DID IT ON EMPLOYERS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE PUBLIC EMPLOYERS, HAVE A RIGHT

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS COURT DECISION LAID OUT. WHATEVER THE STANDARDS ARE FOR THEY HAVE TO HAVE PROTECTIONS. >> Steve: BUT WILL IT STOP YOU >> Whitney: NO, NOT NECESSARILY. WANT. >> Carter: BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS ABOUT SOMETHING AND THEY DON'T EFFICIENT WORKPLACE. NOW AT STAPLES. FOR EXAMPLE, FALSIFYING A POLICE SUBPOENA. OF, LIKE, I DON'T LIKE THE NEW POLICY WITH OUR BREAKS. >> Margaret: AND THE IMPORTANT

JUSTICE O'CONNOR HAD ADDRESSED WHEN THIS ISSUE CAME UP BEFORE. IS THIS ORDERLINESS IN THE INFORMATION IN ORDER TO MAKE WELL-INTENTIONED, WELL-INFORMED PUBLIC FUNCTION. WOULD GIVE GREATER IMPORTANCE TO ORDERLINESS THAN TO -- >> Carter: HE IS ONE OF THE MOST >> Margaret: WHEN THEY DID THE CONFIRMATION, HE HARDLY EVER DECIDED IN FAVOR OF EMPLOYEES. >> Steve: THIS COURT IS CLEARLY THESE KIND OF DECISIONS. GOVERNMENTS ARE STRUGGLING TO

ADDRESS A VARIETY OF SOCIAL AND CELL PHONES. PHONE TALK WHILE DRIVING. CAMOUFLAGE THEIR UGLY SO LET'S SEE. VISUAL POLLUTION, MAYBE EVEN >> Gene: STEVE, MAN, DON'T YOU COME ON. >> Steve: I GOT ALONG FINE >> Gene: OR SO YOU THOUGHT. THESE DISGUISED CELL PHONE TOWERS, A PICTURE OF THESE >> Steve: OH, I KNOW. >> Gene: OH, MY GOSH, THE THEY ARE HIDEOUS. >> Margaret: WHEN I SAW THE SORT OF -- BECAUSE IT'S REALLY

HIGH, AND SO YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WHAT IS THIS? >> Steve: IT'S A CELL PHONE >> Margaret: RIGHT, IT'S A CELL >> Gene: AND USUALLY IT'S A >> Steve: I JUST FIND MYSELF NOT IT DOES SOMETHING TO THE PACE OF OUR LIVES, AND THE PACE OF OUR >> Gene: WAIT A MINUTE. MAYBE IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE. AND AS MORE PLACES DECIDE THEY THE VOTERS ARE JUST NOT GOING TO TO COME WHEN THE TECHNOLOGY THESE THINGS -- COVERING THEM UP >> Steve: SHOULD WE TAKE AWAY >> Whitney: NO, DON'T TAKE AWAY SAYS WE CAN'T BE TALKING -- I BUT SERIOUSLY, WE ALL SEE IT

PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST KIND OF WHEN PEOPLE ARE TALKING. >> Steve: NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. THAT'S ALL THE TIME THAT WE HAVE FORUM AT NOW, STAY TUNED AS KATE NELSON A CONVERSATION WITH NEW MEXICO ANAYA, MAX EVANS, AND TONY