Vietnam: A Television History; Interview with Tran Thi Tuyet, 1981
- Transcript
Uprising in the agrovilles
SR 2086/1
TRAN THI TUYET
Beep tone
Roll 86 of Vietnam Project
629 Take 1
Interview with Tran Thi Tuyet, 43.
Interviewer:
Please tell us about the agrovilles, what life was like in there.
Tran Thi Tuyet:
When the war ended and peace came back again, life was quite easy. The
population put up truck gardens, orchards, and paddy fields. Life was
quite easy. Life from 1954 to 1956 and even 1957 was relatively easy.
But when the Diem's agroville program was carried out, then in the
village of An Hiep an area of several dozens hectares was carved out in
order to build an agroville. This area included orchards, paddy fields,
houses and graves belonging to the inhabitants of the village.
In order to build the agroville, the resident population had to be
moved to another area. Then all the orchards were destroyed and the
graves bulldozed.
The inhabitants of the villages in the surrounding area were then
forced to work on the construction of the agroville. Therefore, they
rounded the population of An Binh Tay where I was living up every day
and herded them to the village of An Hiep to do corv饠labor.
A policeman named Duong was a very brutal one. Every day he rounded
people up, herded them away, and dismantled the houses to clear the
ground for the construction of the agroville. Therefore, the life of
the general population was extremely hard and difficult at that time.
Young men were press-ganged into the army, middle aged people were
forced to do corv饠labor and to build the agrovilles, houses were
destroyed and graves were bulldozed. Therefore, life was in utter
confusion. The population suffered terribly. The outrage of the
inhabitant of An hiep and the villages in the Ba Tri area was to the
extreme.
Therefore, at one time the people staged an uprising. They beat on the
drums and the wooden gongs and struggled to be able to go back to their
former villages in order to produce again. They demanded that their
former orchards and paddy fields be returned to them so that they could
produce and earn a living again.
During the uprising, there were young people who could not suppress
their anger and so they, on their own, fetched knives and killed the
policeman named Duong. They said that if the policeman named Duong was
allowed to live, they would not be allowed to go back to their former
places again. So they killed him in order to be able to go back to
their former villages and to avoid having to do corv饠labor for the
regime.
Therefore, during the uprising, when the population heard the sounds of
the drums and the gongs and the news that the liberation or
revolutionary forces were coming in order to help them in the uprising
and to help change their lives and bring back a life of comfort and
happiness to the population, every inhabitant became so eager that he
just went out there and helped destroy the agroville, the strategic
hamlet, so as to be able to return to their former places.
For all these reasons, the people were quite confident in and quite
supportive of the revolution. Hence, during the first phrase of the
uprising, the popular movement was very forceful. This was because
everybody was very angry.
Everyone had been forced to do corv饠labor, everyone had been
relocated into the strategic hamlet and everyone had been forced to
leave their homes. Therefore, the people had become very outraged. And
so when there was an order for uprising, people just participated
wholeheartedly.
This was especially because the policy of concentrating the population
into the agroville and press ganging the young men into the army had
created disruptions in the lives of the population. The uprising would
then liberate the population, allowing them freedom to go back to their
former villages to lead normal lives and to produce again. The idea
that they would not be driven out of their homes again and that their
graveyards would not be bulldozed again and that life would be normal
again made people extremely eager.
Therefore, during the first few nights of the uprising, whenever the
people heard the sounds of the drums and the gongs they automatically,
without having to be prodded by anybody at all, went out there to
participate. And those who had blood debts with the people - now, the
young and healthy people, without anybody telling them to do so, would
take up knives and chased after the despotic policemen so as to be able
to go back to their former patches of land again. So this was what
things were like in the agrovilles during the uprising.
630 Take 1
Clapstick
Interviewer:
Please describe to us again the dismantling of the agroville in 1960.
Tran Thi Tuyet:
About the dismantling of the agroville, when the population received
orders for the uprising and heard the drums and the gongs, they just
rushed out there to destroy the agroville in the hope of getting to go
back to their former places. I myself also participated in the beating
of the drums and the gongs.
The young men, and especially the self defense forces of the regime
itself, got extremely mad when they got relocated here. The said that
if they did not kill this policeman named Duong then they would remain
shut up in the agroville forever. Therefore, they took up knives and
killed this policeman.
The young women also participated by beating the drums and the gongs.
And this was what I did. While the young men killed the policeman named
Duong, a number of other agroville authorities were also taken before
the people and had their crimes of the previous years in concentrating
the population into the agroville and in subjecting the people to all
kinds of hardship and suffering pointed out to them. We asked them to
admit their crimes before the villagers.
Now, there was this peasant and a young man, whose names I just can't
remember at this point, who chopped this policeman Duong in revenge.
Other villagers participated in the uprising by beating the drums and
the gongs and pointing at the faces of the other policemen, the
director of the agroville and the despotic soldiers, saying: "It was
because of you people that we have had to suffer during the last few
years. It was because of you that we had to abandon our house, our
gardens, our paddy fields and our graves. It was because of you that we
have had to suffer poverty and hunger."
When the population did this, the local despots and the director of the
agroville became very humbled and asked that their crimes be forgiven.
I myself at that time participated by beating the drums and the gongs
and by pulling downs the signs and slogans which they posted on the
walls of every house.
In every house there was a slogan saying "We vow to annihilate the Viet
Cong." This meant that people were made to vow that they would not
support the Communists. There were also portraits of Diem everywhere.
At that time, in the agroville, the inhabitants automatically pulled
down all the signs and slogans and burnt up the agroville in order to
be able to go back to their native villages. This was what it was like
during the uprising.
631 Take 1
Clapstick
Interviewer:
Now, at the time you helped destroy the agroville, who did you think
was responsible for the agroville? Did you think that it was just Diem
himself who did this?
Tran Thi Tuyet:
At that time I thought that it was because of Diem. But I also thought
that the Americans were behind the policy. It was the American policy
to have the agrovilles constructed, but it was Diem himself who was
responsible for carrying out the policy.
But the people who carried out the repression against us in the local
area were the secret police, the regular police, the hamlet chiefs and
the agroville directors. Therefore, although the general population
understood who were responsible for the policy, they also knew that the
people who affected them directly were the local despots: the soldiers,
the guards, the village chief, the policeman Duong, and the agroville
security forces. Therefore, the people also hated those who affected
them directly.
Widespread support for the National Liberation Front
Interviewer:
The Liberation Front was founded then, in 1960. Did you have any
thought on the Front at that time?
Tran Thi Tuyet:
The Revolutionary Front, you mean?
Interviewer:
That's correct.
Tran Thi Tuyet:
At that time, the Front was just founded. I was then in the agroville
and I realized that the only way not to remain locked up forever in the
agrovilles, the strategic hamlets and the New Life hamlets was to
follow the Front.
I thought that only with the birth of the Front would the press-ganging
of the young people into the army and the turning over of the graves
end. Without the birth of the Front to help organize uprisings in order
to bring in a new life then the inhabitants of An Hiep and An Binh Tay
and other villages in this general area would suffer forever.
Therefore, in my opinion, the only out was to follow the revolution, to
follow the Front. Only this will give peace and life again. Otherwise,
we would end up dead under the US/Diem regime.
My husband was press-ganged into the army, my family forced into the
agroville and I myself forced to work for them every day. There was
hardly a day when we could rest. The graves of our ancestors were
turned over and dug up.
Therefore, when I heard about the uprising I was overjoyed. Everybody
was happy, so happy that they could not sleep. We waited for the
Liberation forces to come to us eagerly day and night to help us wipe
out all the repression and suffering and to return us to the kind of
life which we enjoyed right after peace came.
Life then was plentiful. We had abundant orchards, full rice bins, and
a lot of pigs and chicken. Life was really plentiful and comfortable.
But with the presence of the agrovilles, life became extremely harsh
and difficult.
We had to abandon our houses, our paddy fields, and the graves - the
graves were bulldozed and turned over. The above was my thought when
the Front came into being.
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- Interview with Tran Thi Tuyet, 1981
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- Description
- Episode Description
- Former NLF soldier Tran Thi Tuyet talks about the agrovilles and her daily life. She recalls that life was relatively quiet until the agrovilles were built under Ngo Dinh Diem as part of the Rural Community Development Program to forcibly relocate sections of the population. She talks about villages being destroyed so an agroville could be constructed. The population suffered and life became hard. The civilians began to revolt and demanded that their land be returned to them. In the beginning the uprising was popular and many people would join in order for life to return to normal. Tran Thi Tuyet also recalls that when the agrovilles were dismantled in 1960 a second uprising occurred and people rushed back to gain control of their former homes. Tran Thi Tuyet discusses why she joined the NLF, as it was the only way not to remain in the agrovilles forever.
- Date
- 1981-03-11
- Date
- 1981-03-11
- Asset type
- Raw Footage
- Topics
- Global Affairs
- War and Conflict
- Subjects
- War--Environmental aspects; Peasant uprisings; oppression; Vietnam War, 1961-1975--Personal narratives, Vietnamese; Vietnam (Republic); Relocation (Housing)
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- Duration
- 00:13:09
- Credits
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Interviewee2: Tran, Thi Tuyet
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- Citations
- Chicago: “Vietnam: A Television History; Interview with Tran Thi Tuyet, 1981,” 1981-03-11, WGBH, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed December 25, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-15-3b5w66972w.
- MLA: “Vietnam: A Television History; Interview with Tran Thi Tuyet, 1981.” 1981-03-11. WGBH, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. December 25, 2024. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-15-3b5w66972w>.
- APA: Vietnam: A Television History; Interview with Tran Thi Tuyet, 1981. Boston, MA: WGBH, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-15-3b5w66972w