American Experience; Freedom Riders; Interview with Ted Gaffney, 1 of 2

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as an hour we can solve all we want to win here but when i get on a bus the ice and you don't know maybe it's because i don't want to be identified with them we're well ireland where no votes are going to be more dangerous than them erratic because they don't want that would say so a lot of things that have gone well you know black or white or tarver i'm saying for tower you'd be are certain places like you know we're up so it was and so it was more in the us and then there's no funds are free or run all year alone root root root for the

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follow rather cozy gentle reverend gordon hayward divide on that then they began so when they were going into the self and to go into these facilities the bathroom going into retirement you know inside wherever they were but there's no protection again what did you think about this idea and what about them i thought of our grave and also i really believe that the fbi was known by this hadn't had that feel and that there would be nearby because i was told that froze the attorney general i

knew that we were gone then it's a live badger get caught to follow buses all i do look at the passengers on the bus that word for your hours and i'd say well maybe as an fbi agent but when things were about on that was i was on no one tried to stop it and owls hoven vermont sen allen been one so all was this right here is you know this is the fbi really knows that they'll be out of latin olivero owner of bull connor because the day of an elephant dung of solo work and

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and i want to say that we stayed mostly ed columns and on tourists that night i'm in with your own boss is you know is the only items that would you do develop ones that you know what are you wael hussein who and they called us stayed away from them day but blanton salt and i want stone and jeff i was told them that everything that they are a big cause we head live long though the boss who were free riders and they were unknown look i believe late sixties and the disturbance haven't down our mouth and lee who was then say getting their roof as a world aids and that

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