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yes? My name is Arturo Ornellas and I came from Cuernavaca in Mexico. And what is the Coonandero? Coonandero is what you say in English and natural healer that passed through a process of learning maybe 20 to 25 years. He knows, or she knows the amazing plants, the animals that cure the stones. They know also very well the forces of the nature, the rain, the sun, the wind, the earth, a stereotypical process. And they use the energy and the spiritual approach in a very beautiful way. And how did you become interested as a Coonandero?

Well, my two grandmothers, the mother of my father as well the mother of my mother, they were Coonanderas. So I leave all my youth with these two beautiful women seeing how they cure and they help their own people. So that's why they inspire me. Where do you practice and do people come to you or do you come to them? Well, always it's a reciprocal thing, you know. Certain times you go to the people because you know that these people, they can be help it or they want to receive some help. And many times also people look for you. So either ride a moment that you don't know really. You was a person who moved first or the other person moved. But the encounter is make it.

Why are Coonandero so important? Well, for thousands of years around the war and the healers was the Coonandero, all over the planet. I am talking about millions of years of the human mankind. So the Coonanderos are the real doctors. How does traditional medicine work with Western medicine or does it at all? Well, in certain cases, yes, for example in China, you have elements of Western medicine and Chinese traditional medicine. In India, you have also hospitals, I know three or four of the hospitals in India. They work in Ayurveda medicine and Western medicine. In Mexico, my country where I live, we have a lot of hospitals that we call mixed hospitals in where operate the Western medicine as well the local medicine.

Because in Mexico, we have many different ways to approach therapeutically a patient. The medicine came from the culture. So the Western medicine is not the global culture. And how important is having these classes here at universities? Well, little by little, the people that produce science under the scientific method understand the limitations of the scientific method. And they are now searching more operating in different ambulances, in different dimensions that occurs for helping the people. And they discover that the traditional medicines are so efficient. So they don't cause side effects, for example.

That they are very important. They are cheap. They are efficient. They don't cause side effects. And people accept it very well. So if, for example, if someone is going to a doctor and taking medication, and they don't tell them that they are actually also taking natural medications with herbs, how does that affect the person? Well, it depends because the question has other questions. It's why the patient don't say the truth to the physician. Well, maybe that makes us aware that certain physicians, certain alopatical doctors, they deny, they don't know their ignorance, and they deny what operate the traditional medicines. And sometimes they become very angry or they don't allow their patients to have another treatment.

So the patients become fearful or become skeptical about the alopatical doctor. So how, if this is good or no good, I think it's no good when you are taking two type of medicines at the same time, with no coordination, with no supervision. Because many times the plants, also they have the chemical elements than the chemical alopatical medicine carry-on. So you can produce an overdose of medicine, and this can be very dangerous for the patient. So in that sense, it will be very good that the patients come in either to an alopatical doctor, or to a natural doctor, a natural healer, speak frankly and honestly about their own treatments. Okay, and is one generation over another more likely to use traditional medicine?

Do you think the older generation would be able to use it more than... No, no. Yup is very intelligent. Yeah, the young people are very intelligent. Even they become very critical, and they understand the natural way, the natural paths are much more profound, much more integrated, more holistic as we were saying before than other ways. The youth is also looking for their own path, and they have the right to look for that. And I believe that we did today with the planet destroying the water, destroying the woods, destroying the earth, destroying the ambience. The youth knows that we are not giving a good inheritance to them, and they are also trying to find better paths to live on the future. So, I think both generations, they look. We are not stupid.

We don't like to be in war, for example, killing others. Use because the question of the power. We don't like to provoke violence and horror. Use like that. The mankind works a lot in order to leave the stage of a beast. And the youth today they want to be humans, not beast. That's pretty good. Yeah. The youth is going to be more than the same. The youth, they want to be more than the same. And the youth is going to be more than the same. And the youth are going to be more than the same. Do they want to know? Do you want to think about them here? Have you seen a particular class with the group called? What was the name of the Sakhi? No. Me. This would be my chapter. Actually, let's just say something.

Nothing if I was a someone? How many different Groups do we have? Well, this group is multi-national, and that's very important, because when we talk about a multi-national group, we are talking about a multi-cultural group. That means that many different approaches about one phenomenon are coming together in order to describe and to find solutions. We have nikarajans, we have Mexicans, we have new Mexicans, of course not American people. We have some Canadians, we have Venezuelans, we have Cheleon Descendants, we have Irish people coming from Ireland, and also Jews people. So this is very interesting, the different cultures present here.

Perfect, and one other question. See, all different traditional medicines use herbs. Are the same herbs used in like Hispanic natural feelings, like in Chinese natural feelings, or are there different herbs, and where do you get your herbs from? Alright, on the medieval time, many, many of the medicinal plants travel all over the war, because the conquest or the presence of the Europeans in Asia, Africa, or the South America brought the doctors of the colony's satyrs, asking for the plants in order to produce the medicine. In that case, many of the ships coming from Europe to those continents, the other continents brought also the seeds of the plants, and the plants being planted in Africa, Asia, etc. So today, grace to that, also the plants from all over the war came to Europe.

So grace to that, today is a fantastic combination about different types of medicinal plants. Of course, in Mexico, we use the very well-known Mexican plants that grow there, but also we use a bunch, a lot of very good medicinal plants, for example. Chamomile is not a Mexican, and it's very efficient for the question of the stomach, it's very, very good. Ruda is, don't come from Mexico, it came from India, and it's excellent for the women, for different parts of the sickness of the women. Romero is, it came from Greece, it came from Italy, and we use in Mexico, like a fortific cantilex, something for the strength of your body, and it's excellent. As well, we have more than 5,000 medicinal plants in Mexico, can you imagine, on plus,

the other plants coming from different continents. So today, the richness on medicine is extraordinary, it's extraordinary, it's no excuse to don't use it, it's what the nature provides. So, how many plants do you have? so what's important about that is that It's the greatest. Thank you sir, sir cation thank you Thanks for watching thank you cation here em

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a little bit in between And then we have, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, Okay, my name is Emily Franklin and I got into acupuncture because I got, I have an illness myself, an autoimmune disorder

several years ago, and I went through the whole Western medical system and it really actually made me worse and I started exploring holistic medicine all different kinds, held me up at the Western herbs and I discovered Chinese medicine it was the thing that really helped me feel better more than anything and so I decided I really wanted to do this medicine to help other people the way that I had been helped and you're headed here at this event here at the University of Mexico tell me about the event and what it's I guess meant to you. Well how much about the event do you want me to say okay well the event obviously is about mostly about Mexican folk healing but what I found to be really interesting is how much similarity there is between Chinese medicine and Mexican medicine and Mayan medicine, Aztec medicine, Ayurvedic medicine, all these other, all these kinds of holistic medicines there's a tremendous amount of overlap in terms of how they look at the body as you know

body, mind, spirit not just you know these component parts that you take out a part and you fix that part but you know really looking at the person as a whole being and I've gotten a lot out of this particular class from that just kind of as a reminder of that view but also that Chinese medicine isn't the only way that looks at things that way that there are all these other medicines that look at things in that holistic way it's wonderful. And how does Western medicine and traditional healing medicine or folk medicine work together or not? They actually work really well together I mean you can do one or the other but when you do them together not so much the herbal medicine I haven't I haven't done that myself the combination because I find there's some trickiness about combining prescription drugs and Chinese herbs because I don't know what the combinations are some people do but in my experience working with someone who is working with a Western doctor and then working with me at the same time we can get tremendous results because there are

certain things that Western medicine is great at dealing with you know physical structural problems you get hit by a bus you go to a Western doctor you know you break your arm whatever but then you come to an alternative medicine healer afterwards to speed up healing to reduce swelling to help pain and also the emotional aspects that happen when you know if there's an accident or an illness or something that holistic medicine Chinese medicine all these other kinds are really good at dealing with those other things that Western medicine doesn't really deal with as much so they're very complementary. I can't think of anything else. I think that you want to add that we didn't ask you. I think I didn't really address this class very well but that's okay. No I actually did a great job. Okay. As you were talking about how you know all the different cultures come together and everything else. Okay. If you're happy I'm happy, I'm happy that was easy. Tell me your name and where you're from. Okay, Florida de Mayo and I'm living in

Astansia, New Mexico right now but I'm originally from Central America. What country in Central America? The border of Honduras and Nicaragua so it was actually born in Nicaragua. So how did you get interested in traditional food healing and all of that? Well the interest was always there. It's a family it's part of a way of life. My mother, my grandmother, my aunties, my father were all very very involved in good and derismo and so it's it's been a way of life for me. And is this something that you see more going down traditional family like women or with men or is it just equal or? You know it's pretty much equal but it's you have to have the the lung which is like the gift to be able to you know there's a there's a capacity here you know it's not only remembering in an academic it's

it's also very very spiritual. So is when you say in spiritual is it is a part of religious thing or is it just a personal spiritual type thing? Well well you know I'm only speaking for myself here I'm not representing anybody I'm speaking for myself. What I'm saying what I'm saying about spiritual and I do healings okay you cannot do a healing without without the source okay it is a dance it's a magical dance between you and your beloved. You cannot in any way shape or form separated. Healing is a transference of energy okay and and this is how the healings are done. The herbs that I specifically use are herbs for lempeus and lempeus are their their cleansing. They're like special baths that we do with the herbs. I don't work with many herbs. I work with something like between four and seven herbs that has been that's all I need to know because I see the magic of of the okay so my work actually my spiritual work is brings me into into the

path of being a seer so I I can sense and feel and see the the spirit of the plant and working with the plant and the sacred waters when you know when you mix these and you do your lempeus I'm able to see how the the energies of the body are affected and moved so I've have only stuck to the four to seven herbs that my mother used traditionally and these herbs have been in Central America for the past five hundred years but I do understand that some of them originated in Africa so this is where they come from so how important you're here at the University of Mexico right now and they're put on this class they have all these people together how what are your feelings on that my personal feelings are very strong I have been here from the beginning from day one I've been here supporting them and encouraging them and I really really feel in my heart that it's in all of us you know we all come from this culture this is the you know the the folk medicine of the mixed races it's a combination of traditional indigenous healings it's a combination of Catholicism which brings in the Christianity and also African religion you know African meaning like for example

the herbs that we use okay Christianity you know the incense burners and the the ones that the Maya use we borrow that from the Catholic Church there's a there's a whole bunch of different interchanging and borrowing within within the the put on that is more way of way of healing so I feel very strongly it's not something that we can put aside because it's actually part of our way of life and it's really really imperative that we keep it alive I pretty much do a lot of traveling just introducing people to put on that is me and and the beauty of it. Do you think this is something that's generational meaning the elder people use more traditional healings the Western medicine versus younger or does it span across all the generations? You know it pretty much spans throughout the generation it pretty much does so you know for myself as a grandmother I have an incredible responsibility in teaching young kids because you know they're especially the women you know they're the seed carriers of the earth and they need to know this medicine you know it's some of it is just real basic home medicine to maintain your family and you could go beyond that.

I really don't have a goal I have this relationship with my beloved I have no goals I understand that everything is in the power of the beloved so I am just here as a vehicle in guiding people and helping people it doesn't matter male or female or female or female or female. children through this this this journey and this path of knowledge I've started an institute in the north country and I've toured pretty much all over the world in the four directions do a lot of traveling. it's a balance it's living in harmony with the earth and the plants and having a personal relationship with God and it's basically a way of life that we practice. Thank you.

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