PBS NewsHour; December 29, 2020, 6:00pm-7:00pm PST

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- AND DIVIDUALS. - >> THIS PROGRAM WAS MADE - PUBLIC BROADCASTINRPORATION FOR - AND BY CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR PBS - STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKE YOU. - THANK YOU. - >> Nawaz: THE END OF THIS - PANDEMIC YEAR IS NOW IN SIGHT, - BUT PRESIDENT-ELECT JOE BIDEN IS - WARNING THE WORST IS YET TO - COME. - TODAY, IN WILMINGTON, DELAWARE, - HE FORECAST A POST-HOLIDAY SPIKE - IN IECTIONS AND DEATHS, - THROUGH FEBRUARY. - PE ALSO CHARGED THE TR - ADMINISTRATION HAS FALLEN FAR - BEHIND THE PRESIDENT'S TALK OF - VACCINATING 20 MILLION PEOPLE BY - YEAR'S END. - >> WITH ONLY A FEW DAYS LEFT IN - DECEMBER WE'VE ONLY VACCINATED A - FEW MILLION SO FAR. - THE PACE THE VACCINATION PROGRAM - IS MOVING NOW, IF IT CONTINUES

- TO MOVE AS IT IS NOW IT'S GOING, - TO TAKE YEOT MONTHS, TO - VACCINATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. - >> Nawaz: HOURS EAIER, VICE - PRESIDENT-ELECT KAMALA HARRIS - RECEIVED T MODERNA VACCINE IN - WASHINGTON. - SHE URGED MORE PEOPLE TO GET THE - SHOTS. - MEANWHILE, OFFICIALS IN COLORADO - A MORE CONTAGIOUS COVID VARIANT, - INITIALLY DISCOVERED IN BRITAIN. - THE U.S. SENATE CONVENED A RARE, - HOLIDAY-WEEK SESSION TODAY AND - DEADLOCKED OVER INCREASING COVID - RELIEF CHECKS TO $2,000. - PRESIDENT TRUMP SIGNED A BILL ON - SUNDAY THAT INCLUDES $600 AR - MOST AMERINS, BUT HE'S - DEMANDING BIGGER CHECKS. - TODAY, HE CALLED IT "THE RIGHT - THING TO D" - ON THE SENATE FLOOR, REPLICAN - MAJORITY LEADER TCH McCONNELL - DECLINED TO COMMIT HIMSELF ON - THE ISSUE. - >> THE PRESIDENT WOULD LIKE - FURTHER DIRECT FINANCIAL SUPPORT - FOR AMERICAN HOUSEHOLDS. - THIS WEEK, THE SENATE WILL BEGIN - A PROCESS TO BRING THESE THREE - PRIORITIES INTO FOCUS. - >> Nawaz: R NOW, McCONNELL - OCKED AN ATTEMPT BY DEMOCRATIC

- MINORITY LEADER CHUCK SCHUMER TO - FORCE A VOTE. - SCHUMER SAID THE SENATE SHOULD - NOT ADJOURN UNTIL IT TAKES - ACTION. - >> THIS ISSUE HAS UNITED - AMERICANS FROM COAST TO COAST - AND BRIDGED MASSIVE POLITICAL - DIVIDE HERE IN WASHINGTON. - THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC, - REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT, - STRONGLY SUPPORT $2000 CHECKS. - >> Nawaz: VERMONT SENATOR BERNIE - SANDERS ALSO TRIED TO FORC - ACTION ON GGER CHECKS, BUT - McCONNELL BLOCKED THAT, TOO.RS - IN TURN, SANBJECTED TO - VOTING TO OVERRIDE THE - PRESIDENT'S VETO OF A MAJOR - DEFENS - LAST NIGHT.HOUSE DID - WE'LL TALK WITH SENATOR SANDERS, - THE PRESIDENT TODAY LASHED OUT - AT REPUBLICANS FOR OPPOSING HIS - VETO OF TH DEFENSE BILL. - HE TWEETED THAT "WEAK AND TIRED - REPUBLICAN 'LEADERSH' WILL - ALLOW THE BAD DEFENSE BILL TO - HE OPPOSES THE BILUSE IT - STRIPS CONFEDERATE NAMES FROM - MILITARY BASES, AND DOES NOT - STRIP LIABILITY PROTECFROM - SOCIAL MEDIA FIRMS. - A FEDERAL JUDGE IN GEORGIA HAS - BLOCKED EFFORTS TO PREVENT SOME - 4,000 PEOPLE FROM VOTING IN SEXT - WEEK'S U.STE RUN-OFFS. - TWO COUNTIES HAD PLANNED TO MAKE - THOSE VOTERS PROVE THEIR

- RESIDENC AFTER A LAWSUIT BY A - CONSERVATIVE GROUP. - THE RUN-OFFS WILL DETERMINE - CONT THE SENATE. - THE U.S. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WILL - NOT BRING FEDERAL CRIMINAL - CHARGES IN THE KILLING OF TAMIR - RICE IN CLEVELAND. - A WHITE POLICE OFFICALLY - SHOT THE BLACK 12-YEAR-OLD IN - 2014. - DEE YOUTH WAS PLAYING WITH A - PELLET GUN OUT RECREATION - CENTER. - TODAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT SAID VIDE - OF THE INCIDENT IS TOO POOR - QUALITY TO DETERMINE EXACTLY - WHAT HAPPENED. - BOEING'S 737 MAX JETLINER - RESUMED COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS IN - THE U.S. TODAY, FOR THE FIRST - TIME IN NEARLY TWO YEARS. - THE PLANES WERE GROUNDED - WORLDWIDE IN MARCH 2019 AFTER - N O DEADLY CRASHES. - TODAY,AMERICAN AIRLINES - 737-MAX FLEW ABOUT 100 PEOPLENE - FROM MIAMI TW YORK. - THE COMPANY PRESIDENSAIDAV - SSENGERS CANCOMPLETE - CONFIDENCE IN THE PLANE. - >> THIS IS AN AIRCRAFT THAT HAS - BEEN MORE HIGHLY SCRUTINIZEDFO - THAN ANY EVER . - WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THIS - SKIES AND WE'RE CONFIDENT TO BE - PUTTING IT BACK IN THE ATO AND - CONFIDENHOWING IT TO OUR - CUSTOMERS AND GETTING PEOPLE

- >> Nawaz: AIRLINES IN BRAZIL AND - MEXICO HAVE ALREADY RESUMED - USING THE 737 MAX, W0 - FLIGHTS THIS MONTH. - ESW FEDERAL DIETY GUIDEL - OUT TODAY SAY NO CANDY OR CAKE - FOR KIDS UNDER TWO. - THEY ALSO RECOMMEND FEEDING - BABIES ONLY BREAST MILK, FOR AT - LEAST THEIR FIRST SIX MONTHS. - FOR ADULTS, THE GUIDELINES - CONTINUE PREVIOUS ALCOHOL - LIMITS, NO MORE THAN TWO DRINKS - A DAY FOR MEN, AND ONLY ONE - DRINK DAILY FOR WOMEN. - ON WALL STREET TODAY, THE DOW - JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE LOST 68 - POINTS TO CLOSE AT 30,335. - THE NASDAQ FELL 49 POINTS, AND, - THE S&P 500 SLIPPED EIGHT. - AND, FAMED FASHION DESIGR - PIERRE CARDIN DIED TODAY. - HIS FUTURISTIC, AVANT GARDE - DESIGNS REVOLUTIONIZED THE - FASHION INDUSTRY STARTING IN THE - EARLY 1950'S. - HE SUMMED UP HIS VIEW OF FASHION - IN AN INTERVIEW LAST FEBRUARY. - NOT CREATING.ed ): - IT'S MAKING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, - A DIFFERENT SENSITIVITY.

- IT SHOWS WHAT I HAVE INSIDE ME, - MY PSYCHE, MY WILL TO CREATE THE - SHAPES, THE FABRICS, THE COLOR - AS I FEEL THEM, AND HOW I WANT - TO SHOW THEM TO PEOPLE. - >> Naz: PIERRE CARDIN WAS - HEARS OLD. - STILL TO COME ONEWSHOUR: - PRESIDENT-ELECT BIDEN'S PICK TO - LEAD THE C.D.C. ON THE SURGE OF - CORONAVIRUS CASES ACSS THE - U.S. - T'E HOUSE OVERRIDES THE - PRESIDVETO AS THE FIGHT - OVER COVID RELIEF PAYMENTS MOVES - TO THE SENATE. - WITH HOSPILS OVERRUN WITH - PANDIC PATIENTS, MANY - AMERICANS ARE DELAYING CRITICAL - MEDICAL CARE. - AND MUCH MORE. - >> Nawaz: WHEN PSIDENT-ELECT - JOE BIDEN ENTERS THE OVAL OFFICE - WILL BE IN THE MID WHAT HEU.S. - CALLS SOME OF THE "TOUGHEST - DAYS" OF THE CORONAVIRUS - PANDEMIC. - HIS HEALTH TEAM WILL BE TASKED

- WITH THE U.S. RESPONSE INCLUDING - CONTINUING THE VACCINE ROLLOUT, - WHICH HE SAID TODAY IS "FALLING - FAR BEHIND" UNDER THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION. - ONE OF THEMEMBERS OF BIDEN'S - TEAM IS DR. ROCHELLE WALENSKY,ME - WHO WAS THE NEXT DIRECTOR - OF THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE - CONTROL EARLIER THIS MONTH AND - SHE JOINS ME NOW. - >> Nawaz: DR. ROCHELLE - WALENSKY, THANK YOU SO - MUCH FOR JOINING US. - WELCOME TO THE "NEWHOUR" - AND CONGTULATIONS ON - YOUR APPOINTMENT. - I DO WANT TO START WITH - THE NEWS TODAY. - COLORADO PUBLIC OFFICIALS - SAID THEY HAVE NOW - NENFIRMED THE FIRST CASE - OF THI VARIANTS, A - MORE CONTAGIOUS COVID-19 - VARIANT HERE IN THE UNITED - STATES. - THEY SAY IT IS A YOUNG MAN - HIS 20s, HE IS - ISOLATING, AND HE HAS NO - TRAVEL HISTORY. - WHAT DOES THIS TE US - ABOUT THE PRESENCE OF THIS - NEW COVID VARIANT HERE IN - THE U.S.? - >> Doctor: GOOD EVENING, - AMNA. - IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE - HERE WITH YOU. - WE HEARD ABOUT THIS CASE - BACK IN THE U.K WE HEARD - ABOUT IN SEPTEMBER 20th, - AND WE SAW THAT THIS NEW

- VARIANT WAS LEADING TO - MANY, MANY MORE CASES IN - THE U. - OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS - AND WEEKS', WE HAVE SEEN - THIS VAR VARIANT HAS BEEN IN - 14 OTHER COUNTRIE - INCLUDING CANADA, AND - TODAY WE HAVE DEFINITIVE - INFORMATION THAT IT IS - HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, - BUT MANY OF US EXPECTED IT - WAS HERE DURING THIS - ENTIRE TIME. - I THINK IT TELLS US - SEVERAL THINGS: ONE, WE - NEED TO BOLSTER OUR - SURVEILLANCE. - IF OTHER COUNTRIES WERE - FINDING IT BEFORE US, IT - TES ME WE NEED TO DO A - BETTER JOB OF TESTING AND - GENOMIC SURVEILLANCE. - BUT FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH - STANDPOINT, I WANT EYTO - CO COUPLE OF THINGS. - ONE IS THAT WE DO BELIEVE, - BASED ON THE DATA FROM THE - U.K., THAT THIS STRAIN IS - LIKELY MORE TRANSMISSIBLE, - SOMEWHERE BETWEEN6 AND - 70% MORE TRANSMISSIBLE, - AND IT BINDS TIGHTLY TO - THRECEPTOR IN THE HOS. - THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE - OF INFORMATION. - HAS IT LED TO IEARD - OUTBREAKS IN THE U.K., - PERHAPS EVEN HERE?

- DON'T QUITE KNOW T - YET. - BUT THE IMPORTANT THING I - THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TORS - UNND IS THERE IS NO - DEMONSTRATION THAT THE - MEASURES THAT WE ARE USING - TO PROTECT OURSELVES FROM - THE INITIAL STRAIN, - WITHOUT THISUTATION, THE - MASKING, THE SOCIAL - DISTANCING, ALLF TSE - MEASURES SHOULD WORK WITH - THIS STRAIN AS WELL. - SO ALL OF THE MEASURES WE - HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TO - PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT - YOURSELF SHOULD ACTUALLY - HELPITH THIRAIN, - REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE - HAVE THE U.K. STRAIN OR - NOT. - >> Nawaz: HAVE YOU BEEN - BRIEFED ON THIS NEW STRAIN - BY THE TRUMADP - NISTRATION? - DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY - KNOW? - GETTING AGENCY-REVIEWED - TEAM BRIEFINGS FROM THE - C.D.C., AND I DON'T KNOW - WHETHER THE REVIEW TEAMS - HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT - THIS THROUGH THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION. - I IMAGINOUR REVIEW TEAMS - THAT ARE BRIEFING ME ARE - HEARING ABOUT IT THROUGHC - THE C.. - THAT HAS BEEN FLUID. - >> Nawaz: CAN I ASK YOU A - ALBOUT THE VACCINE - ROLLOUT, WE HEARD - PRESIDENT-ELECT BIDEN SAY - IT IS NOT MOVING AS - QUICKLY AS IT SHOULD.D

- ERE ARE GROWING - CONCERNS ON HOW IT IS - BEING ROLLED OUT, WHICH ISG - RELY STATES, AND - STATES ARE OUT OF MONEY, - AND THEIR HEALTH - AREAMENTS - UNDERSTAFFED, AND THEY - PASS IT ON TO FRONTLINE - WORKS WHO ARERYING TO - ADDRESS THE PANDEMIC. - IT IS SIMILAR TO THE - TESTING ROLOUT, WHICH YOU - KNOW HAS NOT REALLY - WORKED. - WHAT ELSE SHOULD THE - FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BE - DOAG TO MAKE SURE T - THE VACCINE ROLLOUT - DOMIESN'T THE TESTING - FIASCO? - >> Doctor: IT IS A - REALLY CRITICAL THING, - SOMETHING THAT THE - ADMINISTRATIONADMISTTION IS REAY - WORKING ON THIS THROUGH - THE TRANSITION. - 11.4 MILION VACCINATIONS - HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED. - SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HIT - THE 20 MILLION MARK THAT - WAS PROPOSED. - I BELIEVE THIS TELLS US - SEVERAL THIS. - FIRST, PERHAPS THAT WAS AN - AMBITIOUS BENCHMARK, BUT, - ALSO, THAT THIS IS GOING - TO BE HARD. - WE HAVE A LOT OF HARD WORK - IN FRONT OF US. - MONTHS INTO THE PANDEMIC - IN THIS COUNTRY, WE HAVE - NOT ONE, BUT TWO, VACCINES

- THAT DEMONSTRATE EFFICACY, - AND WE HAVE PERHAPS MORE - COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE. - THAT IS ALL REALLY GOOD - NEWS. - NOW WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO - DO IS DO EXACTLY AS YOU - SAID: TAKE SOME OF THAT - MONEY AND WE NEED MORE - RESOURCES TO INVEST IN - INTO THE DISTRIBUTION ANDTH - GETTINT VACCINE THAT - HAS BEEN DEVELOPED INTO - I DON'T THINK WE CAN - DERESTIMATE EXACTLY HOW - HARD THAT IS GOING TO BE. - WE HAVE AN AMAZING DOWN - PAYMENT BY THE - 8.57 MILLION PASSED BY - CONGRESS, 4.5 BILLION TO - THE STATES, LOCALIES, - TERRITORIES, AND TRIBES, - TO WORK TOWARDS THAT - DISTRIBUTION, BUT THAT IS - JUST A DOWN PAYMENT.WH - YOU SEE THE - EXTRAORDINARY WORK AND THE - RESOURCES THAT ARE GOING - TO BE MOVGIN AHEAD, THE - PRESIDENT-ELECT HAS - ARTICULATED HE IS GOING TO - LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED IN - TERMS OF THE ACTIONS HE IS - GOING TO TAKE TO MAKE SURE - WE GET THOSE VCCINES INTO - PEOPLE, AND THAT INCLUDES

- USING THE PRODUCTION ACT. - >> Nawaz: LET ME ASK YOU - ABOUT SOME OF TH ACTIO - YOU MAY TAKE AS THE HEAD - OF THE C.D.C. - WE KNOW THIS PANDEMIC HAS - HAD A DISPROPORTIONATE - IMPACT ON COMMUNITIES OF - COLO - WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE - NUMBERS, IT IS SO CLEAR. - YOU SEE BLACK AMERICANS, - NATIVE AMERICANS, AND - LATINO AMERICANS - DISPROPORTIONATELY - AFFECTED AND DYING - COMPARED TO WHITE - AMERICANS IN THAT CHART. - IS THERE ANSENSE YOU - SHOULD MOVE THESE - IDMMUNITIES UP IN THE - PRIORITY GLINE? - COULD THE C.D.C. - GUIDELINES CHANGE SO THESE - COMMUNITIES ARE HIGHER UP - IN PRIORITY? - >> Doctor: THE GUIDELINE - ON IMMUNIZATION PRACTICES - FROM THE C.D.C. HAS MADE - HOW THESE THINGS GET - PRIORITIZED. - RECOMMENDATIONS THAT LOOK - AT BOTH MORBIDITY AND - MORALITY, AS WELL AS - PRESERVING THE SOCIAL - FUNCTIONS OF THE UNITED - STATES, AND MAKING SURE - THAT THE COUNTRY CAN KEEP - MOVING ON. - SO IN THOSE GUIDANCES,IS

- THERN UNDERPINNING - OF EQUITY IN ALL OF THOSE - SPACESOK - SO AS WE LT HOW WE'RE - GOING TO BE ROLLING OUT, - EITHER BY AG BY - ESSENTIAL WORKERS OR BY - HEALTH CARE WORKERS, - EQUITY IS REALLN THE - UNDERPINNING OF ALL OF - THAT. - WORK THAT I NEED DO AT - THE C.D.C., CERTAINLY WE - NEED TO GET OUT OF THIS - COVID PANDEMIC, AND THAT - IS GOING TO BE THEST HIG - PRIORITY THAT I HAVE WITH - LEADING THROUGH SCIEE, - LEADING THROUGH TRUST, - TRANSPARENCY, - COMMUNICATION, BOTH TO TE - SCIENTISTS OF THE C.D.C., - AS WELL AS TO THE AMERICAN - PEOPLE, OF WHAT WE'RE - LENING. - AND THEN TO DISTRIBUTE - VACCINES, TO SCALE UPO - TESTING, ALL OF - THOSE THINGS WITH AN - ESSENTIAL EYE TOWARDS - EQUITY, AS YOU SAY. - FOUR AND A HALF TIMES OF - HOSPITALIZATIONS IN BROWN - AND BLACK COMMUNITIES, AND - TWO AND A HALF TIMES THE - RATES OF DEAT, THAT - CANNOT CONTINUE IN THE - NEXT PHASE OF THIS - PANDEMIC. - >> Nawaz: IN THE MINUTE - WE HAVE LEFT, CAN YOU GIVE - US ANY KIND OF A TIMELINE?

- SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID WE - NEED TO BE DOING 3.5 - MILLION VACCINATIONS A DAY - TO GET THE HE IMMUNITY - BY JUNE. - WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE - LOOKING LIKE? - >> Doctor: AS I THINK - DENT-ELEI - INDICATED TODAY, I THINK - THINGS ARE GOING TO GET - WORSE BEFORE WE GET - BETTER. - IF WE LOOK AT THE SURGES - THAT HAPPENED THROUGH - THANKSGIVING. - AND THEN WHAT IS GOING TO - HOLIDAY AND OVER THE NEW - YEAR'S HOLIDAY. - THINGS WILL BE EVEN DARKER - WHEN THE PRESIDENT-ELECT - TAKES OFFICE. - THE VACCINATION TIMELINE - IS NOT EXACTLY AS WE HAD - PLANNED OR ANTICIPATED OR - WAS PROMISED. - WE ARE WRKING -- THE - PRESIDENT-ELECT HAS SAID - HE WOULD LIKE TO GET 100 - MILLION VACCINES INTO - 100 MILLION ARMS IN HIS - FIRST 100 YS, THAT IS - AMBITIOUS BY ANACHIEVABLE - GOAL. - IT WILL ONLY BE ACHIEVABLE

- IF WE HAVE RESOURCES T - ACCOMPANY IT. - I THINK THE SPRING LOOKS - BETTER THAN THE DARKAYS - OF WINTER. - I WOULD HESITATE TO PUT A - TIMELINE ON THIS BECAUSE - MANY FACTORS ARE AT - PLAY HERE IN TERMS OF HOW - MUCH MANUFACTURING WE, HOW - QUICKLY WE CAN GET IT - DISTRIBUTED, WHERE THE - BOTTLENECKS ARE IN THAT - DISTRIBUTION. - AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE - WILLINESS OF THE - AMERICAN PEOPLE TO TAKE - THE VACCINE. - >> Nawaz: WE APPRECIATE - YOU TAKING THE TIME TO - SPEAK WITH US TONIGHT. - THAT IS ROCHELLE WALENSKY, - PRESIDENT-ELECT BIDEN'S - PI TO LEAD THE C.D.C. - >> Doctor: THANK YOU SO - MUCH, AMNA. - >> Nawaz: AS WE REPORTED, - EFFORTS TO INCREASE STIMULUS - PAYMENTS TO $2,000 WERE BLOCKED - IN THE U.S. SENATE TODAY. - ONE OF THE SENATORS KING THE - SE FOR MORE MONEY IS BERNIE - SANDERS OF VERMONT. - AND HE JOINS ME NOW FROM CAPITOL - HILL. - >> Nawaz: SENATOR - SANDERS, WELCOME BACK TO

- THE "NEWSHOU - FOR MAKING THE TIME. - LET'S START WITH A LITTLEHA - RECAP OF WHATPENED - TODAY. - MITCH McCONNELL BLOCKED - YOUR REQUEST TO VOTEON - R AT HOUSE BILL FODIRECT - PAYMENTS TO GO UP TO - $2,000. - HE THEN PUT FORWARD A NEW - BILL, THAT COMBINES THE - $2,000 PAYMENTS WITH - ELECTION SECURITY REQUESTS - FROM THE PRESIDENT, AND - ALSO RVING SOME LEGAL - PROTECTIONS FOR SOME TECH - COMPANIES. - WHAT DOES ALL OF THIS MEAN - FOR ALL OF E PEOPLE - WAITING TO SEE IF THEY'RE - GETTING THAT $2,0 CHECK - OR NOT? - >> IT MEANS THAT MITCH - McCONNELL AND SENATORS - ARE MUDDYING THE WATER. - THIS IS NOT A COMPLICATED - ISSUE. - THE HOUSE DID THE RIGHT - THING LAST NIGHT. - THEY UNDERSTAND THAT ALL - ACROSS THIS COUNTRY THERE - IS A LEVEL OF ECONOMIC - DESPERATION WE HAE NOT - SEEN IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE - THE GREAT DEPRESSION. - WE'RE LOOKING AT PEOPLE - WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT - BEING EVICTED, PEOPLE WHO - ARE GOING HUNGRY, UNABL - TO FEED THEIR KIDS, PEOPLE - WHO ARE THE MIDDLE OF - THIS TERRIBLE PANDEMIC

- THAT YOU JUST DISCUSSEDFO - CAN'T TO GO TO A - DOCTOR, PEOPLE ARE - ACCUMULATEING MORE AND - MORE DEBT.AND THE PEOPLE ARE CRG - OUT THEY NEED HELP. - WE MANAGED TO GET $600 IN - DIRECT PAYMENT IN THE BILL - THAT TRUMP FINALLY SIGNE - EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT - IS NOT ENOUGH. - ALL THAT WE'RE ASKING - MITCH McCONNELL TO DO, - THE REPUBLICAN LEAHIDE - HERE, IS TO ALLOW AN UP OR - DOWN VOTE ON WHAT THE - OUUSE DID. - IFANT TO VOTE - AGAINST IT, GO HOME AND - .XPLAIN WHY YOU VOTED - AGAINST - BUT LET US HAVE AN UP AND - DOWN VOTE, A CLEAN BILL IN - TERMS OF WHAT THE HOUSE - DID LAST NIGHT. - THAT'S IT. - >> Nawaz: SO YOU WULD - NEED ADDITIONAL REPUBLICAN - SUPPORT, IF THIS WAS TO - MOVE FORWARD -- - >> YES. - >> Nawaz: -- AND TO PASS - THE SENATE. - YOU'VE SEEN SOME - REPUBLICANS STEP FO - AND SAY THEY WOULD PASS - MARCO RUBIO, KELLY - LOEFFLER AND DAVID - PEUE -- WHAT ABOUT - OTHERS? - DO YOU KNOW THERE IS - ADDITIONAL REPUBLICAN - SUPPORT --

- >> I BELIEVE THERE. - I CAN'T GUARANTEE WE'LL - GEVOTHE 60 S, BUT I - THINK VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE - DEMOCRATS WILL VOTE FOR - IT, AND I THINK CAN GET - THE 12 RUBLICAN VOTES - THAT WE NEED. - CATED, WE INDI - ALREADY HAVE FIVE - REPUBLICAN VOTES, PEOPLE - WHO HAVE INDICATED THEY - WANT TO SUPPORT THISAT - LEGIN. - OTHERS ARE TALKING ABOUT - IT IN A POSITIVE WAY. - GUARANTEE, BUT ALLCAN - ASK OF McCONNELL IS TO - LET DEMOCRACY PLAY OUT. - IF HE WANTS TO VOTE - AGAINST IT, VOTE AGAINST - IT, BUT AT LEAST BRING IT - TO THE FLOOR SO THE PEOPLE - HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THE - PRIORITIES ARE OF THEIR - SENATORS. - >> Nawaz: AT THIS MOMENT - IN TIM YOU AND PRESIDENT - TRUMP ARE BOTH ARGUING FOR - THE SAME THING. - YOU BOTH WANT TO SEE THESE - $2,000 PAYMENTS. - IT STRIKES ME FOR A MAN - YOU HAVE DESCRIBED AS A - THREAT, YOU ARE BOTH - SEEING EYE TO EYE ON THIS - ISSU - WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO YOU? - >> IT SAYS THAT A BROKEN - CLK IS RIGHT TCE A - DAY. - I GUESS IN FOUR YEARS, - EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, - TRUMP HAS IT RIGHT.

- HERE IS THE POT IN TERMS - OF TRUMP COMPANYIN: HE COULD -- - RATHER THAN JUST SENDING - OUT TWEETS, IF HE GOT ON - THE PHONE, IF HE TALKED TO - McCONNELL AND SAID, - DOOK, THIS IS REALLY - IMPORTANT, LET'T. - I THINK WE CAN WIN THE - REPUBLICAN VOTES THAT WE - NEED AND PASS THISLE - SLATION. - SO I SAY TO THE PRESIDENT, - $6U'RE RIGHT ON THIS - ISSUE. - IS NOT ENOUGH. - DO THE RIGHT THING: GET ON - THE PHONE AND LET'S SEE IF - WE CAN WORK TOGETHER FORAM - THICAN PEOPLE ON - THIS ISSUE. - >> Nawaz: WHILE WE HAVE - YOU, I WANT TO ASK YOU - ABOUT SOME - TRANSITION-RELATED ISSUES, - BECAUSE YOU HAVE BE VERY - CLEAR IN ALL OF YOUR - INTERVIEWS, YOU ARE NOT - HAPPY WHEN IT COMES TO - PRESIDENT-ELECT BIDEN'S - CABINET. - HAS HE CONSULTED WITH YOU - FOR NAMES YOU THINK SHOULD - BE FILLING OSE ROLES? - >> LET ME SAY THIS, I - BELIEVE THE - PRESIDENT-ELECT HAS MADE - SOME REALLY EXCELLENT - APPOINTMENTS OR - NOMINATIONS, VERY, VERY - COMPETENT PEOPLE, AND I

- THINK IN THE DAY OF - VID-19, YOU'LL SEE A - RADICAL CHANGE, SE VERY - COMPETENT PEOPLE WILL NOW - BE AT THE HELM. - WHAT I HAVE SAIDRE - ATEDLY IS THAT THE - PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT IN - THIS COUNTRY IS 35%, 40% - OF THE DEMOCRATIC - COALITION. - MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF - PEOPLE INTIFY THEMS - AT PROGRESSIVES. - THEY WANT THE CONGRESS TO - STAND UP TO POERFUL - SPECIAL INTERESTS. - THEY WANT THE CONGRESS TO - MEGHT FOR WORKING PEOPLE. - THEY BELIEVE IICARE - FOR ALL, ETC. - AND THAT POINT OF VIEW - SHOULD BE REPRESENTED, IN - MY VIEW, IN THE BIDEN - ADMINISTRATION. - AS OF THIS POINT, THAT HAS - NOT HAPPENED, BUT I HOPE - IT WILL. - >> Nawaz: LET ME ASK YOU - THIS, BECAUSE YOU'RE - SAYING WHAT I'VE HEARD - FROM OTHER PROGRESSIVE - DEMOCRATS IN BOTH TH - HOUSE AND THE SENATE: WHAT - DO YOU THINK THAT SAYS? - IF THERE IS NOT SOMEONE - FROM THE PROGRESSIVE - MOVEMENT THAT ENDS UP IN - BIDEN'S CABINET, HOW DO - YOU THINK IT WILL BE - PERCEIVED BY PROGRESSIVE - VOTERS IN THE COUNTRY? - >> I THINK WITH

- DISAPPOINTMENT. - THE PROGRSIVE COMMUNITY - WORKED VERY, VERY HARD AT - THE GRASSROOTS LEVEL TO DO - DEFEAT TRUMP, WHO I TO - CONSIDER TO BE THE MOST - DANGEROUS PRESIDENT IN THE - HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY, - SOMEBODY WAS LITERALLY - TODAY THAT IS TRYING TO - UNDERMINE AMERICAN - DEMOCRACY. - WE WORKED VERY, VERY HARD - TO DEFEAT HIM. - IN - THERE WAS A LOT OF SUPPORT - FOR ME AND ELIZABETH - WARREN AND OTHER - PROGRESSIVE CANDIDA - I THINK THEY WILL BE - DISAPPOINTED, INHE - PROGRESSIVE COMMUNITY, IF - THERE ARE NOVET PROGRES - VOICES IN THE CABINET. - >> Nawaz: WHEN YOU LOOK - AHEAD TO WHAT IS NEEDED TO - ADDRESS THIS PANDEMIC, THEA - CARES PAGE, - $2.2 BILLION, AND THIS - PACKAGE, $2 TRILLION, WHATK - DO YOU TH WE NEED TO - MEET THE AMERICAN NEEDS? - >> I CANNOT GIVE YOU AN - EXACT NUMBER. - BUT WH I BELIEVE IS THE - CASE IS THAT THEPR - IDENT-ELECT - UNDERSTANDS THE SEVERITY - OF THE CRISIS. - AND I BELIEVE THAT ON DAY - E THIS WILL BEIS MAJOR - PRIORITY, BOTH IN TERMS OF

- THE PANDEMIC AND THE - ECONOMIC IMS OF THE - PANDEMIC. - SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO - SEE A VERY, VERY - SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC - LAYOUT TO ADDRESS THE - CRISIS FACING WORKING - FAMILIES ALL ACROSS THIS - COUNTRY. - WHAT DOES IT MEAN? - IT MEANS IN MY VIEW DIRECT - EAECKS. - IT EXTENDING - UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. - IT MEANS CREATING MILLIONS - OF GOOD-PAYING JOBS BY - REBUILDING OUR - INFRASTRUCTURE. - IT MEANS PROVIDING HEALTH - CARE TO THE MILLIONS OF - PEOPLE WVE LOST THEIR - HEALTH INSURANCE BECAUSE - THEY LOST THEIR JOBS - DURINGHIS PANDEMIC. - SO THERE IS AN ENORMOUS - AMOUNT OF UNMET NEED OUT - THERE, AND I THINK THE - BIDEN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND - THAT, AND I EXPECT THEY'LL - BE READY TO GO TO WORK ONTO - DAY ONDDRESS THOSE - PROBLEMS. - >> Nawaz: SENATOR BERNIE - SANDS OF VERMONT, THANK - YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME. - ALWAYS GOOD TO SPEAK WITH - YOU. - >> THANK YOU - >> Nawaz: WE INVITED ALL - 52 REPUBLICAN SENATORS TO N - az: WE SHOULD ADD THAT WE - INVITED ALL 52 REPUBLICAN - SENATORS TO APPEAR ON THE - NEWSHOUR TONIGHT. - THEY ALL EITHER DECLINED OR

- DIDN'T RESPOND. - >> Nawaz: FOR MUCH OF AR, - MILLIONS OF AMERICANS HAVE BEEN - HUNKERING DOWN, AVOIDING CROWDSF - TO TRY TO STAYFROM COVID- - 19. - BUT THAT ALSO MEANS MANY HAVE - ALSO BEEN DELAYING IMPORTANT - MEDICAL CARE, SOMETIMES WITH - OVASTATING CONSEQUENCES. - JOHN YANG REPORTHIS HIDDEN - CRISIS DURING THE PANDEMIC. - >> Yang: LRAINE ENSOR SPENT - HER CAREER AS A LIBRARIAN IN - SPRINGFIELD, MASSACHUSETTS, - WATCHINGENERATIONS OF READERS - GROW UP. - >> LITTLE KIDS COME INGREW UP, - GOT MARRIED, HAD KIDS OF THEIR - OWN. - IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING LIFE. - >> Yang: A FEW YEARS AGO, AT AGE - 82, SHE FINALLY RETIRED. - LATE LAST YEAR, SHE NOTICED A - PROBLEM WITH HER RIGHT EYE. - >> I TURNED ON THE TV TO LISTEN - TO THE WEATHER AND THERE WAS A - BLACK SPOT. - IT WAS LIKE A SMALL BRICK. - AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS STRANGE. - >> Yang: HER DOCTOR, RETINA

- SURGEON AND OPHTHALMOLOGIST - ANDREW LAM, DIAGNOSED HER WITH - MACULAR DEGENERATIONTHE - LEADING CAUSE OF BLINDNESS IN - PATIENTS OVER 65. - HE EXPLAINS THERE ARE TWO - VERSIONS OF THE DISEASE: THE - SLOWER-MOVING "DRY" KIND, AND - THE FASTER-MOVING "WET" KIND -- - ICH IS WHAT LORRAINE HAS. - >> IT'S VERY SERIOUS WHEN PEOPLE - HAVE THE WET MACULAR - DEGENERATION. - LUCKILY, WE HAVE MEDICINES THAT - DEN HALT THE PROGRESSION OF WET - MACULANERATION AND OFTEN - IMPROVE VISION. - BUT THE MEDICINES WEAR OFF. - SO THEY'RE OFTEN REPEATED EVERY - FOURX OR EIGHT WEEKS, - DEPENDING EACH INDIVIDUAL'S - >> Yang: LORRAINE BEGAN GOING TO - REGULAR APPOINTMENTS TO RECEIVE - THOSE INJECTIONS, UNTIL COVID-19 - T. - 85-YEARS-OLD AND DIABETIC, SHE - FALLS INTO TWO HIGH-RISK - CATEGORIES FOR CORONAVIRUS, AND - WHAT SHE HEARD ON THE NEWS - TERRIFIEHER. - >> SO I CANCEL MY APPOINTMENT. - AND WHEN I CALLED THE GIRL, YOU - KNOW, SHE EXPLAINED AT THEY - HAD PREPARED THE OFFICE FOR

- BUT I WAS STILL TOO FRIGHTENED - TO GO. - >> Yang: SHE CANCELED HER NEXT - APPOINTMENT AS WELL. - IN FACT, SHE DIDN'T RETURN TO - DR. LAM UNTIL SHE EXPERIENCED - SUDDEN VISION LOSS. - >> UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN SHE - RETURNED IN JUNE, AFTER HAVING - MISSED A COUPLE OF ROUTINE - INJECTIONS DURING THE PANDEMIC, - SHE HAD SEVERE CENTRAL VISION - LOSS, WHICH WAS RELATED TO A - VERY OBVIOUS SUBMACUR - HEMORRHAGE THAT HAD OCCURRED. - >> Yang: DR. LAM OPERATED ANDRE - WAS ABLE TORE SOME OF HER - VISION. - BUT HE'S CERTAIN HE COULD HAVE - PREVENTED IT FROM HAPPENING IN - THE FIRST PLACE, NOT JUST FOR - LORRAINE AND AO FOR SO MANY - OTHER PATIENTS WHO'VE HAD EVEN - >> THIS SUMMER, LITERALLY, WE - WERE HAVING PEOPLE COME IN WITH - CATASTROPHIC VISIOSOLOSS, - TIMES IN THEIR ONLY GOOD EYE - ANCAUSE OF DEFERRED MEDICAL - CARE. - IT'S-- IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT - CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH THESE - PATIENTS. - YOU KNOW, THEY'RE - SOMETIMES THEY'RE CRYING BECAUSE

- THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAD VISION - BUT NOW WE'RE NOT E CANLE. - GET IT BACK. - >> Yang: AS COVID-19 HAS SWEPT - ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SOMETIMES - S ERWHELMING HOSPITALS, THERE'S - BEEN A LESVIOUS TOLL OF - PATIENTS SKIPPING BOTH ROUTINE - AND URGENT MEDICAL CARE. - EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE CENTERS - FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND - THAT FOUND FOUR IN 10 AMERICANS - HAD DELAYED OR AVOIDED CARE - DURING COVID-19. - 12% OF THEM FOR URGENT OR - EMERGENCY CARE, LIKE HEART - ATTACKS AND STROKE - NEEDED MEDICAL CARE IN A TIMELY - NNER IS ESSENTIAL. - >> Yang: TRAINED AS A - PEDIATRICIAN, COMMANDER KRISTIE - CLARKE IS A PUBLIC HEALTH - OFFICER AND EPIDEMIOLOGIST AT - THC.D.C. - SHE CO-AUTHORED THE STUDY. - >> ROUTINE CARE IS WHERE WE AS - PHYSICIANS CAN DETECT NEW - CONDITIONS, WORSENING CONDITIONS - PREVENTIVE CARE SUCH ASNT - VACCINATIONS, WELL-CHILD CHECK - OR HEALTH MAINTENANCE VISITS FOR - ADULTS WITH OR WHOUT - UNDERLYING CONDITIONS. - >> Yang: AS WITH MANY OF THE - EFFECTS OF COVID-19, SHE SAYS

- THIS PROBLEM OF DELAYED CARE IS - HITTING SOME GROUPS HARDER THAN - OTHERS. - >> WE FOUND THAT URGENT AND - EMERGENCY CARE WAS MORE LIKELY - TO BE DELAYED OR AVOIDED IN - CKPEOPLE OF NON-HISPANIC B - RACE OR THOSE OF HISPANIC - ETHNICITY, THOSE WITH A - DISABILITY, THOSE WITH TWO OR - MORE UNDERLYING L - CONDITIONS, AND THOSE WHO ARE - SERVING AS UNPD CAREGIVERS FOR - AN ADULT RELATIVE. - >> Yg: COULD THERE BE LESSON - HERE ABOUT HOW HEALTH CARE - HEALTH OFFICIALS HAVE BEENTH - COMMUNICATINRISKS AND - DANGERS OF THE PANDEMIC, THAT - RHAPS IT'S CREATED SUCH A FEAR - THAT PEOPLE ARE UNWILLING TO GO - TO TAKE CARE OF CHRONIC HEALTH - CONDITIONS ANDAVE ROUTINE - HEALTH CHECKS FOR FEAR OF THE - VIRUS? - >> SO YOU BRING UP A REALLY - IMPORTANT QUESTION. - AND SO I'M A PHYSICIAN AT THE - C.D.C. - I'M ALSO THE DOCTOR IN MY - FAMILY, SO I WOULD TELL YOUR - VIEWERS EXACTLY WHAT I TELL MY - FA'SLY, WHICH IS THAT WHILE

- VERY IMPORTANT TO TAKE NECESSARY - PRECAUTIONS FOR AVOIDING - EXSURE TO COVID-19, AND I' - GLAD THEY'RE BEING CAREFUL, IT'S - ALSO IMPORTANT TO GET YOUR - TIMELY MEDICAL CARE. - >> Yang: BACK IN SPRINGFIELD, - LORRAINE'S VISION IN HER RIGHT - EYE HAS IMPROVED AFTER SURGERY, - BUT STILL ISN'T WHAT IT WAS - BEFORE SHE BEGAN SKIPPING HER - APPOINTMENTS. - >> IF I LOOK STRAIGHT AHEAD, I - STILL SEE BLACKNESS, BUT I CAN - SEE THE MOTION BEHIND IT. - >> Yang: LOOKING BACK, SHE - WISHES SHE'D TRUSTED DR. LAM'S - OFFICE AND THEIR COVID - PROTOCOLS: TEMPERATURE CHECKS - BEFORE ENTERING, FEWER PEOPLE - ALLOWED IN THE ELEVATOR AND IN - THE SOCIALLY DISTANCED WAITING - ROOM, THE MANDATORY USE OF - MASKS. - WITH COVID-19 RESURGENT, SHE - WORRIES THAT PEOPLE LIKE HER - WILL AGAIN DELAY CARE. - >> I ONLY HOPE THAT THE MESSAGE - DOES GET OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO - ARE IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS THAT, - YOU KNOW, THEY CAN PUT DOWN THE - TSAR A LITTLE AND KEEP THEIR

- APPOINTMYOU KNOW, BECAUSE - IT'S SO IMPORTANT. - >> Yang: IS A MESSAGE DR. LAM - DRIVES HOME AS WELL. - HE SAYS IF PATIENTS ARE STILL - CONCERNED, THEY SHOU TALK TO - THEIR HEALTHRE PROVIDERS ABOUT - HOW TO BALANCE THOSE RISKS. - >> THE FACT THAT THIS IS WITHIN - OUR POWER TO PREVENT IS VERY - FRUSTRATING. - SO I THINK THE MESSAGE HAS TO BE - THAT PEOPLE SHOULD NOT AVOID - GOING TO THEIR DOCTORS FOR - REGULAR CARE. - YOU KNOW, THE CHANCES OF GETTING - COVID AT YOUR DOCTOR'S OFFICE OR - IN AN EMERGENCY ROOM ARE VERY - REMOTE AND FAR LESS THAN THE - CHANCE OF HAVING A BAD MEDICAL - OUTCOME FROM DEFERRED MEDICAL - CARE. - >> Yang: HE AND OTHERS WORRY - THAT THE TRUE LL OF COVID-19, - ALL THE THINGS DOCTORS LIKE HIM - AREN'T SEEING, MAY NOT BE KNOWN - FOR SOME TIME TO COME. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M JOHN - YANG. - >> Nawaz: THE PANDEMIC HAS - DISRUPTED EDUCATION AT EVERY

- TLEVEL THIS YEAR, INCLUDI - WORLD OF HIGHER EDUCATION. - IT'S LEADING TO CHANGES IN THE - WAY COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES - OPERINE. - WE'RE BEGIA SPECIAL SERIES - THAT WILL EXPLORE THE IMPACT ON - WHAT SCHOOLS ARE TEA THEIR - COSTS AND FINANCES, HOW THEY - DEAL WITH MENTAL HEALTH CONCCTNS - AND THE IMN STUDENTS OF - COLOR. - TONIGHT, WILLIAM BRANGHAM BEGIG - OUR "RETHINKLLEGE" SERIES, - FOCUSING ON HOW THE PANDEMIC IS - ALREADY CHANGING THEANDSCAPE - OF ADMISSIONS. - >> Brangham: AMNA,NUHEAD OF THE - Y 1st DEADLINE FOR - ERPLICATIONS, COLLEGES AND - UNTIES REPORT MIXED - RESULTS. - WITH MANY OF THE COLLEGE - ADMISSIONS TESTING-SITES CLOSE - DOWN DURING THE PANDEMIC, AS - MANY AS 50% OF EARLY - APPLICATIONS ARRIVED WITHOUT ANY - TEST SCORES THIS YEAR. - THAT'S RESULTED IN SOME TOP- - RANKED SCHOOLS SEEING A SURGE IN - APPLICATIONS. - BUT, ELSEWHE APPLICATION - NUMBERS ARE FLAT, OR EVEN DOWN - COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. - JEFFREY SELINGO HAS HIMSELF BEEN - A STUDENT OF THE COLLEGE - ADMISSIONS PROCESS FOR MANY - YEARS. - HE IS AUTHOR OF THE NEW BOOK,

- "WHO GS IN AND WHYA YEAR - INSIDE COLLEGE ADMISSIONS," AND - HE'S A FORMER EDITOR OF THE - "CHRONICLE OF HIGHER EDUCATION." - >> JEFFREY SELINGO, GREAT - TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE - "NEWS HOUR." - HELP US UNDERSTAND THIS. - IF THERE ARE NOT AS MANY - A.C.T. AND S.A.T. TESTS - GOING TO COLLEGES, WHY - DOES IT MEAN TOP-TIERED - SCHOOLS ARE SEEING AN - INCRSE IN APPLICATIONS. - TOP-TIERED SCHOOLS, IT IS - AN OPTION. - SO WHAT YOU PROBABLY SAW - WAS A NUMBER OF STUDENTS - EYWHO THOUGHT THE HAD - PRETTY GOOD HIGH SCHOOL - GRADES OR MAY NOT BEGOOD - TEST TAKERS, AND SAID, WHY - NOT GIVE IT A SHOT. - YOU SAW MANY OF THETS - STUDPPLY TO THESE - TOP SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY - DIDN'T HAVE TO SUBMIT TEST - SCORES. - >> SO IN THAT SENSE, IT - AIEMS PRETTY CLEAR THAT - TESTING FOR CE - STUDENTS IS A REAL BARRIER - TO TRYING TO GET INTO - ELITE COLLEGES? - >> IT IS A REAL BARRIER, I

- THINK, BECAUSE MANY - STUDENTS LOOK AT THE - AVERAGE TEST SCORES OR - THESE TOP SCHOOLS. - IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE - NOT ANYWHERE NEAR THAT - AVERAGE, THEY'RE GOING TO - TAKE THEMSELVES OUT OF THE - RUNNING AND THEY'RE NOT - EVEN GOING TO APPLYT - ALL. - EVEN THOUGH ALL OF THESE - SCHOOLS PRACTICE WHAT IS - KNOWN AS HOLISTIC - ADMISSION, MEANING THEY'RE - BEYOND TEST SCORES.CTORS - IN FACT, MY YEAR IN - PSYCHOLOGY ADMISSIONS FOR - RECORDING THE BOOK, WHEN I - SAT AT EMERY, DAVIDSON, - THEY LOOK AT STUDENTS' - HIGHCHOOL CURRICULUM AND - HIGH SCHOOL GRADES BEFORE - THEY EVER EVEN LOOK AT THE - TEST SCORES. - TUDENTS ARE PROBABLY - BETTER OFF APPLYING TO - THESE SCHOOLS TO SEE IF - THEY COULD POTENTIALLY GET - IN, AND NOW WE'RE SEEING - THEM DO THCAUSE THEY - DIDN'T HAVE TO SUBMIT TEST - SCORES. - >> SO IF THAT IS DRIVING A - RIGHT APPLICATIONS TO - WELL-KNOWN SCHOOLS, WHAT - IS HAPPENING WITH THE - SCHOOLS THAT ARE NOT QUITEWN - SO WELL-K - >> WELL, WHAT WE'RE SEEING - IS A DECLINE INAT - APPLNS, THE STUDY

- STATES, FOR THE MOST PART - DENTSSE THOSE ST - DON'KNOW IF SCHOOLS ARE - FALL. TO BE IN-PERSON NEXT - MS LIKE THEY'RE - WILLING TO TAKE A CHANCE - ON HIGHLY SELECTIVE - COLLEGES, WHETHER THEY'RE - ONLINE OR FACE TO FACE, - BUT MANY STUDENTS, AND - PARTICULARLY PARENTS, WHO - HA TO PAY THE TUITION - BILL, ARE NOT SURE IF THEY - WANT TO TAKE OUT THAT FULL - TUITION BILL, TO TAKE OUT - LOANS, IN ORDER TO ENROLL - IN THAT SCHOOL WHETHER - TH'RE NOT SURE WHETHER - THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN - PERSON. - AS WE KNOW, A LOT OF THE - IS NOT EXPERIEN - ONLY WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE - THE CLASSROOM, BUT ALSO - THAT RESIDENTIAL - EXPERIEN OUTSIDE THE - CLASSROOM. - AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY - WHAT MANY OF THESE - STUDENTS ARE ALSO PAYIN - FOR.GO - AND IF THEY'RNG TO BE - TAKING ONLINE CLASSES FROM - THEIR HIGH SCHOOL BEDROOM, - ESSENTIALLY, THEY DON'TRI - WANT TO NECES DO - THAT. - AND SO THEY'RE KIND OF - HOLDING OUT, MAYBE UNTIL - THE SPRING, TO SEE WHETHER - THESE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO - GO BACK IN THE FALL AND T - THEN APPLY T POINT. - >> IT SEEMS THAT IS ALSO

- GOING TO EXAE CERBE - WELL-KNOWN ECONOMIC DIVIDE - BETWEEN THE SCHOOLS THAT - ARE WEALTHY WITHIG - ENDOWMENTS, AND THOSE THAT - ARE NOT, WHICH HAS, AGAIN, - BEEN EXACERBATED BY THE - PANDEMIC? - >> IT TOTALLY AS BEEN. - WE SEE THAT APPLICATIONS - FOTHE FEDERAL FRE - APPLICATION FOR STUDENT - AID ARE DOWN COMPARED TO - PASTEARS, MAINLY FROM - STUDENTS FROM LOWER INCOME - BACKGROUNDS. - WE KNOW THAT UNDERGRADUATE - ENROLLMENT IS WAY DOWN, - DOWN 3% OVELAST YEAR, - BUT FRESHMAN ENROLLMENT IN - PARTICULAR DOWN MORE T - 13%. - AND MOST OF THAT IS COMING - AT TWO-YEAR COLLEGES, - WHERE, AGAIN, LOW ND - MIDDLE INCOME STUDENTS ARE - MORE LIKELY TO GO BECAUSE - IT IS CLOSE TO HOME, THEY - CAN LIVE AT HOME AND IT IS - LESS EXPENSIVE. - SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE - THE IMPACT OF COVID ON - THOSE STUDENTS WHO - NORMALLY HAVE A TOUGH TIME - GOING TO CLEGE IN NORMAL - TIMES. - AND NOW A STRUGGLING T - FIGURE OUT A WAY NOT ONLY - HOW TO GET TO COLLEGE, HOW - TO ENROLL IN COLLEGE, BUT - ALSO HOW TO PAY FOR IT.

- >> AND, AGAIN, THAT - CERTAINLY HAS GOT TO BE AI - CONCERN, THATF THOSE - KIDS DON'T GO NEXT YEAR TO - COLLEGE, WE KNOW THE - TRAJECTORY, RIGHT? - THEY MAY NEVER MAKE THAT - DECISION TO GO DOWN THE - ROAD? - >> WE MAY SEE A LOST CLASS - OF 204, AND A LOT CLASS - OF 2025, IN SOME RESPECTS, - RIGHT? - BECAUSE MANY OF THESE - STUDENTS -- SOME OF THE - STUDENTS WHO DECIDEDFOR - EXAMPLE -- WHO GRADUATED - HIGH SCHOOL IN THE SPRING - OF 2020 MAY END UP GOING - COLLEGE IN TH FALL OF - 2021. - THEY MAY HAVE TAKEN ONLY A - YEAR OFF. - OSBUT SOME OF STUDENTS - MIGHT END UP NOT GOING. - THEIR FAMILIES MIGHT HAVE - BEEN IMPACTED BY COVID, - HEALTH ISSUES, BIG - FINANCIAL ISSUES FOR THE - MOST PAT, MAY PARENTS - LOST JOBS, AND STUDENTS - CAN'T FIGURE OUT A WAY TO - AFFORD COLLEGE. - THOSE ARE THE STUDENTS I - MOST WORRY ABOUT WHO ARE - PROBABLY ON THE EDGE TO - BEGIN WITH ABOUT GOING TO - COLLEGE, AND NOW A YEAR - LATER MAY NOHAVE THE - RESOURCES TO ACTUALLY - ENROLL.

- >> YOU HAVE ALSO REPORTED - THATRANSFER APPLICATIONS - ARE UP QUITE A BIT, OF - KIDS GOING FROM ONELL - E TO ANOTHER, ONE - UNIVERSITY TO ANOTHER.H - WHY HAS BEEN - HAPPENING? - >> WE'RE STARTING TO SEEAN - THATECDOTALLY NOW. - TWO THINGS ARE HAPPENING - WITH THOSE STUDEN - ONE IS STUDENTS ARE - SHOPPING FOR INSTITUTIONS - THEY THINK WILL BE FACE TO - FACE NEXT FALL. - WE'RE STARTING TO SEE - STUDENTS EXPRESS INTEREST - IN COLLEGES THAT HAVE BEEN - LARGELY FACE TO FACE THI - YEAR. - THEY THINK IF THEY'RE FACE - TO FACE THIS YEAR, THEY'RE - TO FACE NEXT YEARAND IACE - DON'T WANT TO GO ONLINE - THIS YEAR. - THAT IS ONE THING THAT IS - THE OTHER THING IS SCHOOLS - HAVE BEEN HIT PRETTY HARD - FINANCIALLY BY THEEM - PA. - SO YOU'RE STARTING TO SEEST - SOME UDENTS TRADE UP - ACADEMICALLY, OR THINK - THEY CAN TRADE UP - ACADEMICALLY. - MAYBE THEY WERE REECTED - A SCHOOL A YEAR AGO. - THEY NOW MAY THINK BECAUSE - SCHOS FINANCIALLY NEED - MORE STUDENTS, THEY THINK - THEY MAY HAVE A BETTER JOB - OF GETTING IN NEXT AR IF

- THEE TRANSFER. - THAT'S WHY I'M HEAATRING - OME SCHOOLS ARE - DOING BETTER WITH TRANSFER - APPLICATIONS SO FAR. - >> JUST ONE MORE IN - DISRUPTED SO MANY TSHAS - OF OUR LIFE. - JEFFREY SELINGO, THE - AUTHOR OF "WHO GETS IN AND - WHY: A YEAR INSIDE THE - COLLEGE ADMISSIONS - PROCESS." - GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON THE." - "NEWS HO - THANKS FOR BEING HERE. - >> IT WAS GREAT TO BE - HERE. - THANK YOU. - Nawaz: NOW TO VENEZUELA, AND - THE ONGOING STRUGGLE FOR POWER - AMID A GROWING HUMANITARIAN - CRISIS. - NEXT WEEK A NEW PARLIAMENT IS - SET TO BE SWORN IN, AFTER - MEMBERS OF THE OPPOSITION - BOYCOTTED ELECTIONS EARLIER THIS - MONTH. - THAT LEAVES OPPOSITION LEADER - JUAN GUAIDO IN AN EVEN MORE - PRECARIOUS POSITION, AND THE - COUNTRY WITH AN UNCERTAI - FUTURE. - SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT MARCIA - BIGGS REPORTS. - >> Reporr: THEY ARE LINES THAT - SEEM TO GO ON FOREVER. - ALL ACROSS VENEZUELA, HUNGRY

- CHILDREN WAITING TO RECEIVE A - MEAL. - LAST WINTER WE VISITED THIS - COMMUNITY KITCHEN IN A POOR - BARRIO OF CARACAS, WHERE - VOLUNTEERS FROM THE FOUNDATION - ALIMENTA LA SOLIDARIDAD WERE - FOVIDING FOOD FOR MEMBERS - THE COMMUNITY TO PREPARE FOR - THEIR NEIGHBORS.WE - ET THE HEAD OF THE - ORGANIZATION, ROBERTO PATINO. - HE TOLD US THAT IN 240 COMMUNITY - KITCHENS THROUGHOUT VENEZUELA, - HIS TEAM WAS SERVING AROUND - 25,000 PEOPLE. - EARLY THIS MONTH, WE LEARNED - THAT THEIR OFFICE WAS RAIDED, - THEIR BANK ACCOUNT FROZEN, AND - PATINO WAS WANTED FOR ARREST ON - CHARGES OF TERRORISM AND - CORRUPTION AND HE IS NOW IN - WHY DO YOU TNK THAT THEY'RE - ING AFTER YOU? - >> I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR - INTENTIONS A. - THEY ARE VERY PARANOID AND THEY - SEE IN CONSPIRACIES ALL ER, - THEY THINK THAT EVERYTHING THAT - IS BEING DONE ON THE COMMUNITY - LEVEL MIGHT HA THE PURPOSE OF - OVERTHROWING THEM.

- THAT THIS IS A BIGKE, THATSEE - THEY'RE NOT HURTING ME, THEY'RE - NOT HURTING THE OPPOSITION, - WHICH IT DOESN'T OWN THIS - PROGRAM. - WE ARE OPEN FOR EVERYONE. - >> Reporter: PATINO TOLD ME THEY - NEVER ASK ANYONE WHOM THEY - SUPPORT, PRESIDENT NICOLAS - MADURO, OR THE OPPOSITIO - BUT POLITICS PERMEATES - EVERYTHING IN VENEZUELA. - AND CAN DETERMINE WHETHER YOU - SUPPORT MADURO AND EAT, OR GO - HUNGRY. - IN EARLY DECEMBER'S - PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS, - MADURO'S RULING PARTY WAS WIDELY - DENOUNCED FOR PROMISING FOOD FOR - VOTES. - WAS THE LATEST TURN IN A - YEARS-LO POLITICAL CRISIS THAT - HAS LEFT THE COUNTRY IN CHAOS, - AND WITH TWO PRESIDENTS: MADURO, - WHOSE ELECTION IN 2018 WAS - DECLARED ILLEGITIMATE BY THE - OPPOSITION-LED PARLIAMENT. - SPEAKER OF PARLIAMO INORMER - 2018 WAS CONSTITUTIONALLY FIRST - IN LINE TO THE PRESIDENCY.

- FOR THE ALMOST TWO YEARS SINCE - AND DESPITE BEING RECOGNIZED AS - THE TRUE PRESINT BY THE U.S. - AND MORE THAN 50 COUNT, - GUAIDO HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO WIN - THE SUPPORT OF THE MILITARY AND - THEREFORE HASN'T TAKEN CONTROL - OF THE COUNTRY. - WE WERE THERE ALMOST ONE YEAR - AGO WHEN NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS - BARRED HIM FROM ENTERING - PARLIAMENT. - MADURO'S PARTY ESSENTIALLY RAN - UNOPPOSED IN THIS MONTH'S - ELECTION; ONLY 1/3 OF REGISTERED - VOTERS ACTLLY SHOWED UP. - >> WE DID NOT BOYCOTT THE - ELECTION.TH - WAS NOT AN ELECTION. - THIS WAS A FRAUD. - WE WANT ELECTIONS. - >> Reporter: LEOPOLDO LOPEZ WAS - CE THE FACE OF THE OPPOSITION - UNTIL HIS IMPRISONMENT IN 2014. - IN 2017, HE WAS RELEASED ON - HOUSE ARREST, UNDER THE - CONDITION OF SILEN. - HIS PROTÉGE AND FELLOW ACTIVIST - JUAN GUAIDO TOOK UP E MANTLE. - AND TOGETHER THEY MADE A FAILED - ATTEMPT TO OUSWEMADURO FROM

- 18 MONTHS AGO. - IN OCTOBER, PEZ MADE HEADLINES - WHEN HE ESCAPED THE COUNTRY AND - FLED TO SPAIN, WHERE HE WAS ABLR - NITE WITH HIS FAMILY. - >> SO I WAS INEASINGLY MORE - ISOLATED AND I NTEDED TO - CONTRIROM THE OUTSIDE. - AND REPRESSION IN VENEZUELA HASA - INCREASED A DEAL. - FOR EXAMPLE, PRESIDENT GUAIDO - DOES NOT SLEEP IN THE SAME PLACE - EVERY NIGHT. - HE NEEDS TO MOVEORVERY NIGHT IN - R TO BE SAFE. - >> Reporter: IN RESPONSE TO WHAT - HE CALLS A FRAUD, LOPEZ RECENTLD - JOEMBERS OF THE OPPOSITION - REFERENDUM, WITH SIX MILLIONN - VENEZUELANS BOTH IN COUNTRY AND - ABROAD DEMANDING NEW ELECTIONS. - FOR ITS PART THE GOVERNMT HAS - RESPONDED TO THIS BY SAYING - THOSE VOTERS LOOK LIKE ZOMBIES - AND THE RESULTS HAVE NO BEARING - ON REALITY. - HOW DO YOU GO FORWARD WITH THESE - TWO DUELING REALITIES? - THE STRATEGY HAS NOT SEEMED TO - WORK SO FAR. - >> WE HA BEEN MANY TIMES IN A

- IN A MOMENT THAT WITH HUGE - THUSIASM, WITH TENS OF - THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THE - STREETS PUSHING PROTESTS ANDIN - PUAND RALLYING SUPPORT, - AND THEN WE FALL INTO A PEOD - OF DEMOBILIZATION AND LOSS OF - HOPE. - AND THEN WE NEED TO REGAIN AND - WE NEED TO CONTINUE H - RWARD INTO A NEW UPSIDE CYCLE.>> - eporter: BUT MEANWHILE, THE - VENEZUELAN PEOPLE SUFFER. - U.S. SANCTIONS HAMMERED A - COUNTRY ALREADY FACING ECONOMIC - COLLAPSE AND HUMANITARIAN - CRISIS. - THE COVID PANDEMIC DEALT AA - FURTHER BLOW TUMBLING - HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND A COUNTR - ALREADY STARVING. H - PATINO SAYS ORGANIZATION - IS SHUT DOWN, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE - COME TOGETHER, EACH NTRIBUTING - A LITTLE SOMETHING TO - KITCHENS. - BUT WITH SUPPLIES DWINDLING, THE - KITCHENS MAY BE FORCED TO CLOSE. - TPROSPECT TOO MUCH FOR SO

- BEAR. - THIS SINGLE MOTHER BROKE DOWN IN - TEARS." - THIS KITCHEN IS HELPING ME AND - MY DAUGHTER SO MUCH." - SHE SAYS "THERE ARE SO MANY - CHILDREN THAT ARE HUNGRY". - PATINO WORRIES THAT THE CURRENT - OPPOSITION STRATEGY FOCUSES TOO - ICCH ON INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS TO - CHANGE THE POL SYSTEM, AND - NOT ENOUGH ON THE PEOPLE - SUFFERING AT HOME. - >> IF YOU PUT YOURSELF IN THE - SHOES OF THE AVERAGE VENEZUELAN, - YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER HOW THE - STRUGGLE FOR DEMOCRACY RELATES - TO THIS PERSON. - HOW THIS PERSON CAN SEE THAT HE - HAS A THERE'S A CONNECTION - BETWEEN HER OR HIS IMMEDIATE - DEMOCRATIC OUTCOMERATION OF A - I THINK THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION - THAT ALL OF US WHO WANT - CRACY IN VENEZUELA NEED - STRUGGLE WITH. - >> Reporter: LEOPOLDO LOPEZ - AGREES THAT THE VENEZUELAN - PEOPLE ARET THE CENTER OF THIS - FIGHT, BUT SAYS THEY MUST - CONTINUE FIGHTING TO SEEEAL

- CHANGE. - >> THE ONLY WAY IN WHICHHERE - WILL BE A CHANGE IN THE - HUMANITARIAN SITUATION FOR THE - VENEZUELAN PEOPLE IS IF L ERE IS - POLITIANGE. - WE HAVE BEEN TOP WE HAVE BEEN IN - THE TTOM. - AND AT THE END, YOU KNOW, WE - WILL WIN THE FINAL BATTLE. - >> Reporter: BUT FOR THOSE STILL - ON THE GROUND INENEZUELA, IT - SEEMS THE WAIT FOR THAT DAY - NEVER ENDS. - FOR THE PBNEWSHOUR, I'M MARCIA - >> Nawaz: JUST YES, - ROBERTO PATINO RECEIVED WO - THAT HIS ARREST WARRANT HAS BEEN - REVOKED, BUT HIS ACCOUNTS REMAIN - FROZEN. - PA Nawaz: IN A YEAR OF ISOLATION - AN, BOOK SALES ARE UP, AS - ADULTS AND CHILDREN HAVE TURNED - TO READING FOR DISTRNDTION, - UNDERSG AND SHEER

- LOEASURE. - IN OUR CONTINUIN THIS WEEK - AT THE "BEST OF 2020", JEFFREY - BROWN TURNS TO TWO BOOKSELLEHE - WHO CURATE TIR SELECTIONS WITH - THIS "YEAR LIKE NO OTHER" IN - MIND. - ALL PART OF OUR ONGOING ART AND - OULTURE SERIES, CANVAS. - >> Brown: AND FOLOOK AT - THE YEAR IN BOOKS, WE TURN TO - TWO BOOKSTORE OWNERS, JANET - WEBSTER JONES OF SOURCE - BOOKSELLERS IN DETROIT. - WE FEATURED HER RECENTLY IN A - LOOK AT THE PLIGHT OFBO - INDEPENDENSELLERS. - AND ANN PATCHETT IS CO-OWNER OF - PARNASSUS BOOKS IN NAS AND - OF COURSE, ONE OF OUR LEADING - WRITERS. - HR RECENT NOVEL IS THE DU - HOUSE. - IT'S NICE TO SEE BOTH OF YOU. - YOU IN YOUR T-SHIRO SEE BOTH OF - JANET, LET ME JUST START WITH - YOU BERE WE GET TO OUR LIST. - GIVE US A LITTLE UPDATE. - HOW IS THE HOLIDAYEASON GOING? - >> WELL, THE HOLIDAY SEASON IS - AN ABSOLUTE JOY. - WE HAVE BEEN SO BUSY, ESPECIALLY - SINCE THE LAST TIME WE TALKED, - THAT WE CAN HARDLY ANSWER THE - PHONE.

- WE'VE HAD A VERY BUSY, BUSY - SEASON. - WE HAVE BEEN FRANTICALLY DOING - OUR FULFILLMENT ORDERSELL - AS GREETING PEOPLE BY TWOS AND - THREES AS THEY COME TO THE - STORE. - >>rown: AND ANN PATCHETT, - WHAT'S IT BEEN LIKE FOR YOU IN - THIS STRANGE YEAR? - >> IT'S A VERY SIMILAR STORY - HERE. - WE'VE BEEN OVERWHELMED BHOWIN - EDIBLY KIND AND SUORTIVE - OUR CUSTOMERS HAVE BEEN, NOT - JUST IN NASHVILLE, BUT REALLY - ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.AV - PEOPLE HE STEPPED UP TO HELP - US OUT, ORDERING BOO ONLINE, - ORDERING CURBSIDE.NG - WE'VE BEEN RUNOOKS OUT TO - PEOPLE'S CAR AND NOW WE'RE - LETTING A FEW PEOPLE INTO THE - STORE AT A TIME. - WE TAKE EVERYBODY'S TEMPERATURE. - EVERYBODY WEARS MASKD - SANITIZER. - AND PELE HAVE BEEN REALLY KIND - AND COMPLIANT AND SUPPORTIVE.EE - IT'SA VERY HEARTWARMING - CHRISTMAS TIME.L - >> Brown: ALGHT, SO LET'S - LOOK AT SOME OF THE MOST - IMPORTANT, OUR FAVORITE BOOKS OF - THE YEAR. - AND YOU'RE BOTH NICELY PACKAGED - OUR FIRST ROUND IN A IN A - PACKAGE OF THREE. - JANET, WHY DON'T YOU START ALL

- OF YOUR BOOKS YOU TOLD ME HAVE - E WORD RISE IN IT. - TELL US ABOUT THEM. - >> THE THREE BOOKS THAT WE HAVE - TH HAVE THE WORD RISE ARE - FIRST A BIOGRAPHY. - IT'S CALLED HE DEAD ARE - RISING" BY LES PAIN, WHO WAS A - VERY WELL KNOWN JOURNALIST, AND - HIS DAUGHT, TAMARA PAYNE. - THE BOOK WAS WORKED ON OVER A 30 - YEAR PERIOD, AND IT'S ABOUT THE - LIFE AND TIMES OF MALCOLM X. - SO THIS NEW BIOGRAPHY ON HIM FOH - WAS WORKED ON FOR 30 YEARS, - I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT. - THE DEAD ARE RISING. - THE NEXT ONE IS A POLITICAL - COMMENTARY BY REVEREND AL - SHARPTON CALLED "RISE UP" - AND THIS BOOK IS A BOOK OF - CHOICE MAKING. - HE SAYS THAT READERS ARE LED TO - UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE AT A - CROSSROADS IN OUR POLITICALPM - DEVET, SORT OF LIKE OUR - SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT, OUR - EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT, WHILE - WE'RE IN THAT AS A COUNTRY, IN A - POLITICAL DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE - MUST CHOOSE TO LIVE OUT THE - MEANING OF THE TITLE RISE UP.

- E THIRD ONE IS A COOKBOOK, AND - IT'S A HISTORICAL AND - CONTEMPORARY HISTORY. - IT'S CALLED "THE RISE" BY CHEF - MARCUS SAMUELSSON, WHO I KNOW - HAS BEEN ON YOUR SHOW, JEFFREY. - AND HE WAS SO GOOD. - I LOVED HEARING HIM. - THE BOOK IS BEAUTIFUL AND - HIGHLY RECOMMEND FOR PEOPLE.E - SO THOSE ARE MY THREE BOOKS OF - RISE THAT HAVE RISE IN T - TITLE, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE - MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE TO RISE UP - AAND CHGE THE WAY WE LI - THINK. - >> Brown: ALL RIGHT, SO AND - JANET WENT WITNONFICTION, I - THINK YOURIRST THREE ARE ALL - NOVELS, SO WHAT HAVE YOU WHAT DO - YOU HAVE? - >> YEAH, I'M ALWAYS FOR FICTION. - "DEACON KING KONG" BY JIM - McBRIDE. - JIM McBRIDE IS VERY MUCH IN THE - NEWS RECENTLY BECAUSE HE'S HAD A - TELEVISION SHOW ABOUT HIS LAST - NOVEL, "THE GOOD LORD BIRD," - WHICH WON THE NATIONAL BOOK - AWARD, WAS TERRIFIC.HA - THIS IS A BOOKIS SET IN - BROOKLYN IN 1969, A CHARACTER - NAMED SPORTCOAT, WHO IS A BAD

- ALCOHOLIC, SHOOTS A DR DEALER - IN THE PROJECTS WHERE HE LIVES - AND HAS NO MEMORY OF IT. - SPORTCOAT HAS BOTH THE WORST - LUCK AND THE BEST LUCK OF ANY - LITERATURE.I'VE EVER SEEN IN - AND THIS STORY FOLLOWS WHAT - HAPPENS WHEN EVERYONE'S TRYING - TO CATCH UP WITH HIM. - NEXT BOOK, ONE OMY VERY, VERY - FAVORITE BOOKS OF THE YEAR, - "TRANSCENDENT KINGDOM" BY JESSE. - AND IT IS THE STORY OF THE - WONDERFULLY NAMED CHARACTER - GIFTY, WHO IS A SIDOH YEAR - ORAL STUDENT AT STANFORD IN - NEUROSCIENCE.S - AND SHUDYING THE SCIENCE - OF ADDICTI AND DEPRESSION. - OF EVANGELICAL FAI SCIENCETION - AND HOW SHE'S TRYING TO SOLVE - THPROBLEMS OF HER OWN LIFE - AND MY VERY, VERY FAVORITE BOOK - OF THE YEAR BY MY VERY FAVORITE - WRITER, LOUISE ERDRICH'S, "THE - NIGHT TCHMAN," SET IN 1959.

- THIS IS THE STORY THAT'S LOOSELY - SED ON LOUISE'S OWN - GRANDFATHER AND HOW HE TRIES TO - SAVE THE OJIBWAY NATION BY - MAKING SURE THAT A TERMINATION - CONTRACT ON NATIVE AMERICAN - TREATIES DOESN'T GTHROUGH THE - U.S. GOVERNMENT. - THIS IS SUCH A HOPEFUL BOOK AND - REALLY ALL THREE OF THESE NOVELS - ARE ABOUT ONE PERSON MAKING A - DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD AND - CHANGING THE OUTCOME OF A FATE - FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. - >> Brown: THERE WAS A BOOK THAT - I KNOW YOU BOTH LOVED, JANET, - YOU CAN START ON THIS. - IT'S CALLED "BLACK BOTTOM - SAINTS," A HISTORICAL NOVEL BY - ALICE RANDALL. - JANET TELL US ABOUT IT. - >> YES, BLACK BOTTOM SAINTS IS A - NOVEL. - AND I WANTED TO SAY, TOO, THAT - I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT - SUBJECT BECAUSE IT'S AOV - HISTORICAL BASED ON REAL - LIFE CHARACTERS AND PEOPLE WHO - LIVED AND WORKED AND WALKED - WHICH WAS CALLED BLACK BOTTOM. - BLACK BOTTOM WAS A VERYIM - RTANT NEIGHBORHOOD IN - DETROIT PRIOR TO THE

- EXPRESSWAYS, AND IT HAS BEEN - RAISED BTHE EXPRESSWAYS COMING - TO DETROIT, THE INTERSTATE - EXPRESSWAY, SO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD - NO LONGER EXISTS. - >> Brown: AND ANN PATCHETT, YOUK - HAD A FEW FOR YOUNG PEOPLE - OR FOR OR FOR THE CHILD IN ALL - OF US. - >> YES, YES. - WE ALWAYS NEED SOMETHING FOR OUR - KIDS. - ALL RIGHT, "SILVER ARROW" BY LEV - GROSSMAN. - FOURTHRADE AND UP GIRL NAMED - KATE ASKS HER RICH UNCLE WHO - SHE'S NEVER T FOR A BIRTHDAY - PRESENT. - SHE AND HER LITTLEER TOM, - GO OFF ON THE TRAIN, HAVE SUCH - ADVENTURES. - AND IT, AGAIN, IS ALL ABOUT - PROBLEM SOLVING AND CREATIVITY - REALLY A WONDERFUL BOOK. - EVERYTHI KATE DICAMILLO - WRITES, I LOVE THIS IS THE FIFTH - NOVEL IN THE DUCOBU DRIVE - SERIES, STELLA ENDICOTT AND THE - ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE POEM. - GRADES ONE THROUGH THREE. - YOU HAVE TO WRITE A POEM FOR - SCHOOL. - STELLA WRITES ABOUT HER - NEIGHBOR'S PIG, MERCY WATSON. - >> Brown: AND JANET, IHINK WE

- HAVE TIME FOR ONE MORE. - YOU GOT ONE MORE PICK FOR US?>> - ELL, I GUESS I HAD FIVE, - ACTUALLY, BUT I'LL PICK ONE. - ONE THAT HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF - ATTENTION IS CALLED "BRAIDING - SWEETGRASS" BY ROBIN WALL - KIMMERER.OO - THIS BRAIDING SWEETGRASS, - HAS, I BELIEVE, CHANGED THE - LIVES OF A LOT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE - WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME IN THE - STORE TO SAY, I READ THIS BOOK, - I'VE GIVEN IT AWAY AANT TO - BUY MORE AND GIVE THEM AWAY. - >> Brown: JANET WEBSTER JONES, - OF SOURCE BOOKSELLERS IN - DETROIT, ANN PATCHETT - PARNASSUS BOOKS IN NASHVILLE, - THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. - >> THANK YOU. - >> THANK YOU, JEFF - >> Nawaz: ON THE NEWSHOUR ONLINE - RIGHT NOW, WE THINK AHEAD TO THE - NEW YEAR AS WE REFLECT ON AHAT - WAS A VEPICAL YEAR. - WHAT RESOLUTIONS ARE YOU SETTING - FO2021, IF ANY? - WE SPOKE TO EXPERTS ON HOW TO - SET YOUR INTENTIONS, AS LL AS - VIEWERS LIKE YOU ON WHAT THEIR - PLANS ARE FOR THE YE O AHEAD. - THATOUR WEBSITE, - pbs.org/newshour. - AND THAT THE NEWSHOUR FOR - TONIGHT. - I'M AMNA NAWAZ. - JOIN US ONLINE AND AGAIN HERE - TOMORROW EVENING.

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- THANK YOU. - Captioning sponsored by - NEWSHOUR PRODUCTIONS, LLC - Captioned by - Media Access Group at WGBH - access.wgbh.org - -Oh, give me a home where - the vaqueros roam, - where fresh corn is milled - and pastries are filled...

- and I'll eat tamales - and empanadas all day. - Mmm, it feels like - I'm eating [speaks in Spanish]. - Today, I'm getting - a traditional taste - of northern Mexican cuisine - at a historic Sonora hacienda. - This keeps getting better - and better, Maite. - Then, I bring those flavors - back to my kitchen - ta that you too can get a e - of that norte hacienda life. - And so does a very hungry - vaquero of my own. - This combination - is a super winner. - Sweet and spicy, fresh corn - chile verde and cheese tamales. - Grilled chili-rubbed - pork chops - topped with - a pickled juicy grape salad.