PBS NewsHour; December 8, 2021, 6:00pm-7:00pm PST

- JUDY: GOOD EVENING. - I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. - ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT. - FIGHTING THE MANDATE -- THE - DEBATE OVER VACCINE REQUIREMENTS - TAKES SHAPE IN CONGRESS AS EVEN - SOME DEMOCRATS PUSH BACK ON THE - PRESIDENT. - THEN. - RELIGION AT THE COURT -- THE - JUSTICES HEAR A CASE ABOUT - WHETHER GOVERNMENT FUNDING CAN - BE USED FOR RELIGIOUS EDUCATION. - PLUS. - ABUSE IN THE RANKS -- HISTORY IS - MADE AS A CONGRESSIONAL DEAL - TAKES THE REPORTING OF SEXUAL - ASSAULT OUT OF THE MILITARY - CHAIN OF COMMAND. - AND. - ON TRIAL -- THE POLICE OFFICER - WHO SHOT DAUNTE WRIGHT DURING A - TRAFFIC STOP IN A MINNEAPOLIS - SUBURB SEES HER CASE GO TO - COURT. - ALL THAT AND MORE ON TONIGHT'S - PBS NEWSHOUR. - P♪ - >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS - NEWSHOUR HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY --

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- NEW ASTRAZENECA ANTIBODY DRUG - FOR PEOPLE WITH SERIOUS HEALTH - PROBLEMS WHO NEED MORE - PROTECTION. - AND IN OTHER COVID NEWS, LATE - TONITE, THE SENATE VOTED TO - OVERTURN PRESIDENT BIDEN'S - VACCINE MANDATE FOR PRIVATE - BUSINESSES. - THE MEASURE NOW MOVES TO THE - HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. - WE'LL TURN TO THE ISSUE OF - VACCINE MANDATES, AFTER THE NEWS - SUMMARY. - PRESIDENT BIDEN TODAY - UNDERSCORED HIS WARNINGS TO - RUSSIA'S PRESIDENT VLADIMIR - PUTIN NOT TO INVADE UKRAINE. - LEAVING THE WHITE HOUSE, THE - PRESIDENT SAID SENDING IN - AMERICAN TROOPS IS NOT ON THE - TABLE, BUT MOSCOW WOULD STILL - PAY A HIGH PRICE. - >> ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES LIKE - NONE HE'S EVER SEEN, OR EVER - HAVE BEEN SEEN. - BUT THE IDEA THAT THE UNITED - STATES IS GOING TO UNILATERALLY - USE FORCE TO CONFRONT RUSSIA - INVADING UKRAINE IS NOT IN THE - CARDS RIGHT NOW. - STEPHANIE: THE PRESIDENT SAID HE - IS CONFIDENT THAT PUTIN GOT THE - MESSAGE. - GERMANY OFFICIALLY HAS A NEW - LEADER. - OLAF SCHULTZ BECAME CHANCELLOR - TODAY -- MARKING THE END OF

- >> -- END OF ANGELA MERKEL'S - 16-YEAR TENURE. - SCHULTZ TOOK OFFICE AS LEADER OF - A PROGRESSIVE COALITION OF - PARTIES. - THEY SAY THEY'LL FOCUS ON - MODERNIZING GERMANY AND - COMBATING CLIMATE CHANGE. - CANADA AND BRITAIN ARE THE - LATEST COUNTRIES TO ANNOUNCE - DIPLOMATIC BOYCOTTS OF THE - OLYMPICS IN CHINA. - THEY WILL NOT SEND GOVERNMENT - OFFICIALS TO THE FEBRUARY GAMES, - BUT ATHLETES WILL STILL COMPETE. - CANADA'S PRIME MINISTER SPOKE IN - OTTAWA. - >> WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED BY - THE REPEATED HUMAN RIGHTS - VIOLATIONS BY THE CHINESE - GOVERNMENT. - THAT IS WHY WE ARE ANNOUNCING - TODAY THAT WE WILL NOT BE - SENDING ANY DIPLOMATIC - REPRESENTATION TO THE BEIJING - OLYMPIC OR PARALYMPIC GAMES THIS - WINTER. - STEPHANIE: AUSTRALIA IS ALSO - TAKING PART IN THE BOYCOTT. - FRENCH AUTHORITIES HAVE RELEASED - A MAN THEY ARRESTED IN THE - MURDER OF SAUDI JOURNALIST JAMAL - KHASHOGGI. - THEY SAY HE WAS NOT WHO THEY - THOUGHT HE WAS. - KHASHOGGI HAD CRITICIZED THE

- SAUDI CROWN PRINCE AND WAS - KILLED AFTER ENTERING A SAUDI - CONSULATE IN TURKEY IN 2018. - BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, A FATHER - AND SON HAVE BEEN ARRESTED ON - SUSPICION OF SPARKING THE GIANT - CALDOR FIRE IN CALIFORNIA - EARLIER THIS YEAR. - DAVID SCOTT SMITH AND HIS SON - TRAVIS SHANE SMITH WERE BOOKED - ON RECKLESS ARSON CHARGES THAT - RESULTED IN GREAT BODILY INJURY - TO MULTIPLE INJURIES. - THEY EACH ARE BEING HELD ON $1 - MILLION BAIL. - THE CALDOR FIRE LEVELED THE TOWN - OF GRIZZLY FLATS. - IT BURNED MORE THAN 200,000 - ACRES IN THE LAKE TAHOE AREA AND - WAS ABLAZE FOR MORE THAN TWO - MONTHS. - A MINNEAPOLIS JURY HEARD OPENING - STATEMENTS IN THE MANSLAUGHTER - TRIAL OF A FORMER POLICE OFFICER - WHO FATALLY SHOT BLACK MOTORIST - DAUNTE WRIGHT LAST APRIL. - PROSECUTORS SAID KIM POTTER - BETRAYED HER MISSION. - THE DEFENSE SAID SHE MISTOOK HER - GUN FOR HER TASER AND THAT - WRIGHT SHOULD HAVE SURRENDERED. - WE'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS LATER IN - THE PROGRAM. - A JURY IN CHICAGO HAS BEGUN - DELIBERATIONS ON CHARGES THAT

- THE ACTOR JUSSIE SMOLLETT FAKED - A HATE CRIME AGAINST HIMSELF TO - GAIN PUBLICITY. - IN CLOSING ARGUMENTS TODAY, THE - DEFENSE SAID 2 MEN WHO CLAIM - SMOLLETT HIRED THEM TO STAGE THE - ATTACK ARE LIARS. - THE PROSECUTION ACCUSED SMOLLETT - OF LYING. - THE CEO OF INSTAGRAM CALLED - TODAY FOR CREATING AN INDUSTRY - BODY DEDICATED TO KEEPING YOUNG - PEOPLE SAFE ONLINE. - ADAM MOSERI TESTIFIED AT A U.S - SENATE HEARING AMID GROWING - CRITICISM OF HOW INSTAGRAM - AFFECTS THE MENTAL HEALTH OF - YOUNG USERS. - DEMOCRAT RICHARD BLUMENTHAL - QUESTIONED HOW NEW STANDARDS - WOULD BE POLICED. - >> WOULD THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF - THE UNITED STATES, OR THE - ATTORNEY GENERAL OF A STATE LIKE - CONNECTICUT WHERE I WAS ATTORNEY - GENERAL HAVE THE POWER TO - ENFORCE THOSE STANDARDS? - >> SENATOR, WE BELIEVE IN - ENFORCEMENT. - SPECIFICALLY HOW TO IMPLEMENT - THAT ENFORCEMENT IS SOMETHING - THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH - YOUR OFFICE ON AND OTHER OFFICES - AS WELL. - >> WELL THAT'S A SIMPLE YES OR - NO. - ENFORCEABILITY HAS TO BE PART OF

- YOUR PROPOSAL. - >> SENATOR, I AGREE. - ENFORCEABILITY IS INCREDIBLY - IMPORTANT. - STEPHANIE: MOSERI WOULD NOT - COMMIT TO TERMINATING PLANS TO - ADD A VERSION OF THE PLATFORM - FOR CHILDREN UNDER 13. - THAT PROJECT IS NOW ON PAUSE. - FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF - STAFF MARK MEADOWS IS SUING THE - CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE - INVESTIGATING LAST JANUARY'S - ASSAULT ON THE U.S. CAPITOL. - HE SAYS THE COMMITTEE'S - SUBPOENAS ARE OVERLYROAD. - THE COMMITTEE WARNED TODAY THAT - MEADOWS WILL BE HELD IN CONTEMPT - OF CONGRESS FOR REFUSING TO - TESTIFY. - STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR. - THE NEW U.S. ENVOY TO - AFGHANISTAN DISCUSSES THE - WORSENING HUMANITARIAN SITUATION - THERE. - WE EXAMINE THE MANY FACETS OF - THE DEBT CEILING DEBATE IN - CONGRESS. - A TENNESSEE PASTOR GIVES HIS - BRIEF, BUT SPECTACULAR TAKE ON - CARING FOR SENIORS. - PLUS MUCH MORE. - >> THIS IS "PBS NEWSHOUR WEST" - FROM - WETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON - AND IN THE WEST AT THE WALTER - CRONKITE - SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM AT ARIZONA - STATE UNIVERSITY. - JUDY: THE U.S. SENATE IS SET TO - VOTE THIS EVENING ON REPEALING

- PRESIDENT BIDEN'S VACCINE - MANDATE FOR BUSINESSES WITH 100 - OR MORE EMPLOYEES. - THE MEASURE, WHICH NEEDS 51 - VOTES, IS EXPECTED TO PASS AFTER - DEMOCRATS JOE MANCHIN AND JON - TESTER ANNOUNCED THEIR SUPPORT. - BUT THE BILL FACES AN UPHILL - BATTLE IN THE - DEMOCRAT-CONTROLLED HOUSE OF - REPRESENTATIVES AND PRESIDENT - BIDEN IS LIKELY TO VETO IT, - SHOULD IT LAND ON HIS DESK. - I SPOKE ABOUT THIS MOMENTS AGO - WITH SENATOR JOHN THUNE, THE - SECOND HIGHEST RANKING - REPUBLICAN IN THE SENATE. - SENATOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR - JOINING US. - LET ME ASK YOU FLAT OUT. - WHAT IS THE ARGUMENT FOR NOT - HAVING THE GOVERNMENT REQUIRE - LARGE EMPLOYERS TO MAKE SURE - THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE EITHER - VACCINATED OR ARE TESTED ONCE A - WEEK? - >> I THINK SEVERAL ARGUMENTS. - ONE IS THE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE - ON THE WORKFORCE. - ALL OF A SUDDEN HEARD FROM - EMPLOYERS AND OUR STATES.

- THE NUMBER OF SOUTH DAKOTA IS - 30% OF WORKERS WOULD NOT BE ABLE - TO GO TO WORK IF THIS VACCINE - MANDATE WERE PUT INTO PLACE. - I THINK THE BELIEF THAT A LOT OF - US HAVE AND I'M PRO-VACCINE, I'M - VACCINATED. - I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET - VACCINATED ALL THE TIME, BUT I - THINK IT IS REALLY HARD TO HAVE - A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THROUGH A - REGULATORY AGENCY IMPOSE THIS - KIND OF A MANDATE. - I THINK THE COURTS HAVE - DETERMINED THEY DON'T HAVE THE - CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY TO DO - THAT. - WE ARE SIMPLY PUTTING CONGRESS - ON THE RECORD AND I THINK WE - WILL HAVE A BIPARTISAN VOTE IN - FAVOR OF OVERTURNING THIS - MANDATE. - JUDY: THERE IS MORE EVIDENCE - COMING AND THAT THESE VACCINES - ARE EFFECTIVE AND THERE IS MORE - EVIDENCE TODAY THAT WITH THE - BOOSTER THEY ARE VERY, VERY - EFFECTIVE IN PREVENTING COVID, - WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO SEE - EVERYTHING POSSIBLE DONE TO SEE - THAT PEOPLE DON'T GET THIS VIRUS - AND SAVE LIVES? - >> WELL, I THINK THAT IS WHY WE

- SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO - ENCOURAGE, PERSUADE, WHATEVER IT - TAKES TO GET PEOPLE IN A - VOLUNTARY WAY TO EXERCISE THEIR - INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM AND - RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THAT DONE. - I THINK IN SOME RESPECTS - MANDATING THIS WILL HAVE THE - COUNTER EFFECT. - I THINK IT IS GOING TO PUSH - PEOPLE AWAY WHO OTHERWISE MIGHT - BE ABLE TO PERSUADE TO GET THIS - VACCINE. - I DON'T THINK PEOPLE SOMETIMES - UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU HAVE THE - GOVERNMENT IN WASHINGTON, D.C. - ISSUING MANDATES LIKE THIS, THE - EFFECT IT HAS ON PEOPLE LIKE - THIS TO VIEW THESE ISSUES TO BE - PERSONAL ISSUES, AND SOME CASE - RELIGIOUS, MEDICAL ISSUES. - SOMETIMES YOU CAN WORK THROUGH - THAT AND GET THEM VACCINATED, - BUT IN SOME CASES, YOU CANNOT DO - THAT. - IN CASES WHERE YOU CAN'T DO - THAT, AT A LOT OF THESE - EMPLOYERS ARE WORKING REALLY - HARD TO KEEP THE WORK PLACES - SAFE. - BY REQUIRING AN MANDATING THIS - VACCINE, IT IS GOING TO COST

- THEM A LOT OF JOBS. - I'VE TALKED TO EMPLOYERS IN - SOUTH DAKOTA WHERE THEY ARE - TALKING ABOUT 40%, 50% REDUCTION - IN WORKERS AS A RESULT OF THIS - AND THIS HAS A CRUSHING EFFECT - ON THE ECONOMY AND THESE ARE - EMPLOYERS DOING IMPORTANT WORK, - LIKE HEALTH CARE WORKERS AND - PEOPLE CARING FOR PEOPLE'S - HEALTH. - JUDY: I DID SEE A REPORT THAT - HEALTH CARE CPANIES IN SOUTH - DAKOTA, SOMETHING LIKE 97% OF - THEIR EMPLOYEES GOT THE - VACCINATION WHEN THEY WERE - REQUIRED. - I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THERE IS - THE OPTION OF BEING TESTED EVERY - WEEK. - PEOPLE HAVE BEEN URGED TO GET - THE VACCINE EVER SINCE THE - VACCINE CAME OUT. - YOU STILL HAVE PEOPLE RESISTING. - IT HAS BEEN POINTED OUT THAT A - SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE FEWER - REPUBLICANS, PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFY - AS REPUBLICANS, ARE WILLING TO - GET THE VACCINE. - DOES LISTENING TO REPUBLICAN - LEADERS LIKE YOU AND OTHERS SAY - MANDATES ARE WRONG, DOES THAT - END UP DISCOURAGING PEOPLE FROM - GETTING THE VACCINE?

- >> YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT - IS TRUE. - LIKE I SAID, I THINK MANDATING - IT DISCOURAGES THE PEOPLE WE ARE - TRYING TO REACH. - THAT BEING SAID, THE POINT THAT - YOU MAKE, THERE ARE HEALTH CARE - FIGHTERS AND SELF-CARE -- - PROVIDERS IN SOUTH DAKOTA THAT - HAVE DONE IT AND I RESPECT THE - RIGHT OF AN INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYER, - I'M NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T DO - THAT, IT IS A FREE COUNTRY IF - YOU WANT TO DO THAT, I JUST - DON'T THINK THE FEDERAL - GOVERNMENT OUGHT TO BE MANDATING - IT. - I THINK WE ALL WANT TO ENCOURAGE - THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TO - GET VACCINATED. - I THINK THAT MAKES US ALL SAFER. - WE ARE SEEING GOOD SUCCESS IN - OUR STATE OF SOUTH DAKOTA AND - ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT THE - MANDATE IS SOMETHING THAT -- I - LOOK AT THE VOTE WE ARE GOING TO - HAVE TODAY AS A BIPARTISAN VOTE, - MY NEIGHBOR FROM MONTANA IS - GOING TO BE VOTING AGAINST THIS - MANDATE AS WELL. - I THINK IT IS PARTLY JUST THIS

- PERCEPTION THAT PEOPLE IN SOME - STATES AND A LOT OF PEOPLE - ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE THAT ONE - BIG GOVERNMENT TELLS YOU TO DO - SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT - INFRINGES ON THEIR - CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND - FREEDOMS AND SENSE OF PERSONAL - RESPONSIBILITY. - I THINK THERE IS A BETTER WAY TO - DO THIS THAN THE MANDATE AND I - THINK IT IS GOING TO -- THIS - WILL HAVE A BIPARTISAN VOTE - TONIGHT TO OVERTURN THIS - MANDATE, BUT A LOT OF THAT IS - ALREADY HAPPENING IN THE COURTS - BECAUSE I THINK THE COURTS HAVE - FOUND THIS TO BE - UNCONSTITUTIONAL. - JUDY: A DIFFERENT QUESTION ABOUT - ALL THIS AND THAT IS ABOUT THE - POLITICS OF IT. - A NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS SAYING - THEY OPPOSE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND - DEMOCRATS SAYING IN MANDATE IS A - GOOD THING, ON THE OTHER HAND - PRESIDENT -- REPUBLICANS SAYING - PRESIDENT BIDEIS RESPONSIBLE - FOR COVID NOT BEING UNDER - CONTROL. - DOES THAT COMPUTE? - >> IN POLITICS, BOTH SIDES ARE - GOING TO TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE - OF A SITUATION AND PERHAPS - POLITICIZE IT. - I DON'T THINK THAT IS WHAT WE

- OUGHT TO BE DOING WITH AN ISSUE - LIKE A HEALTH CARE CRISIS. - I THINK WE OUT TO BE ENCOURAGING - PEOPLE TO MAKE THE RIGHT - DECISIONS AND GIVING THEM THE - SCIENCE AND THE FACTS AND THE - DATA AND INFORMING THEM ABOUT - WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT - THEMSELVES, THEIR FAMILIES, - THEIR COMMUNITIES. - WOULD HOPE ON THIS THAT WE - COULD KIND OF KEEP THE POLITICS - OUT OF IT. - I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP, TO HIS - CREDIT, WORKED HARD TO GET A - VACCINE IN PLACE. - PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS WORKED HARD - TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE VACCINATED, - BUT I DON'T THINK MANDATING IT - IS GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT - OBJECTIVE. - I THINK IT IS BACKFIRING ON - THEM, I BELIEVE. - I THINK THAT IS WHY YOU ARE - GOING TO HAVE A BIPARTISAN VOTE - TODAY TO OVERTURN IT. - JUDY: SENATOR JOHN THUNE, THANK - YOU VERY MUCH. - >> THANKS, JUDY, APPRECIATE IT. - JUDY: THE SUPREME COURT GRAPPLED - ONCE AGAIN TODAY WITH THE ISSUE

- OF CHURCH AND STATE. - AS JOHN YANG REPORTS, TODAY'S - ARGUMENTS ABOUT WHETHER TAXPAYER - FUNDS CAN BE USED TO PAY TUITION - AT LOCAL SCHOOLS -- RELIGIOUS - SCHOOLS IN MAINE COMES ON THE - HEELS OF RECENT CASES IN WHICH - THE JUSTICES SIDED WITH - RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ADVOCATE. - JOHN: OLIVIA CARSON LIVES IN A - MAINE TOWN SO SMALL THAT IT - DOESN'T HAVE ITS OWN HIGH - SCHOOL. - IN THIS LARGELY RURAL STATE, - MORE THAN HALF THE SCHOOL - DISTRICTS DON'T HAVE HIGH - SCHOOLS. - THOSE DISTRICTS HELP PAY TUITION - AT STATE APPROVED PRIVATE - SCHOOLS IF THAT'S WHAT PARENTS - WANT. - OLIVIA'S PARENTS CHOSE BANGOR - CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS, WHICH BOTH OF - THEM HAD ATTENDED AS WELL. - OLIVIA'S MOTHER -- - >> REALLY GOOD ACADEMICS, REALLY - GOOD. - SMALL CLASSROOM SIZE. - AND PRETTY MUCH A FAMILY - ATMOSPHERE. - YOU DIDN'T WORRY WHEN THEY WENT - TO SCHOOL. - JOHN: THEY ALSO LIKED WHAT THE - SCHOOL DESCRIBES AS A HIGH - SCHOOL CURRICULUM DESIGNED FROM - A BIBLICAL WORLDVIEW. - >> IT'S THE SAME KIND OF - ATMOSPHERE WE HAVE AT THE HOUSE,

- IS THE SE ATMOSPHERE SHE HAS - AT SCHOOL, AND THE SAME - TEACHINGS, AND THE SAME KIND OF - GUIDELINES AND STRUCTURE. - JOHN: BUT THAT FAITH-BASED - TEACHING IS ALSO WHY THE STATE - WOULDN'T ALLOW TUITION PAYMENTS - FOR OLIVIA, WHO GRADUATED - EARLIER THIS YEAR AND IS NOW IN - COLLEGE. - SO THE CARSONS, BACKED BY THE - INSTITUTE FOR JUSTICE, A - LIBERTARIAN GROUP, SUED, SAYING - THAT VIOLATED THEIR FIRST - AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO FREE - EXERCISE OF RELIGION. - >> YOU SEE KIDS THAT CAN'T OR - FAMILIES THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO - SEND THEIR KIDS WHERE THEY - REALLY WANT TO SEND THEM, THAT - SHOULD BE ABLE TO. - TO EXCLUDE THE SCHOOL SOLELY - BASED ON ITS FAITH BASED - ACADEMICS, IT'S NOT RIGHT. - JOHN: LAST YEAR, THE SUPREME - COURT RULED THAT A STATE CAN'T - EXCLUDE SCHOOLS FROM A - TAX-CREDIT BACKED SCHOLARSHIP - PROGRAM SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE - AFFILIATED WITH A CHURCH. - IN THIS CASE, THE JUSTICES ARE - BEING ASKED WHETHER TAXPAYER - MONEY MAY GO TO SCHOOLS - PROVIDING RELIGIOUS INSTRUCTION. - >> THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE - IN THE RELIGIOUS SPHERE. - JOHN: TOM CUNNIFF IS GENERAL - COUNSEL FOR THE NATION'S LARGEST

- LUTHERAN DENOMINATION WHICH - FILED A BRIEF SUPPORTING THE - STATE OF MAINE. - >> BECAUSE RELIGIOUS EDUCATION - IS FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT, IT - IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE STATE OF - MAINE TO SAY WE DO NOT WANT TO - BE INVOLVED IN, ENTANGLED IN - RELIGIOUS EDUCATION. - JOHN: IN TODAY'S ORAL ARGUMENTS - THE IDEOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES - , BETWEEN SOME OF THE JUSTICES - WAS EVIDENT. - JUSTICE STEPHEN BREYER, A - LIBERAL, WARNED AGAINST - GOVERNMENT CHOOSING AMONG - RELIGIONS. - >> THERE ARE 65 RELIGIONS OR - MORE IN THIS COUNTRY, AND THEY - BELIEVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT - THINGS. - AND WHAT'S WORRYING ME IS THAT - IF THE SCHOOL -- IF THE STATE - MUST GIVE MONEY TO THE SCHOOLS, - THEY'RE GOING TO GET INTO ALL - KINDS OF RELIGIOUS DISPUTES. - JOHN: BUT JUSTICE SAMUEL ALITO, - A CONSERVATIVE, SUGGESTED THAT - MAINE'S RESTRICTION ON SECTARIAN - EDUCATION COULD DO JUST THAT. - HE POSED A HYPOTHETICAL TO - MAINE'S LAWYER ABOUT A RELIGIOUS - SCHOOL TEACHING - NONDISCRIMINATION AND UNIVERSAL - RESPECT. - >> THESE ARE PRINCIPLES THAT WE - THINK OUR STUDENTS SHOULD KEEP

- IN MIND, CONSISTENT WITH THE - RELIGIOUS OUTLOOK OF OUR - COMMUNITY. - WOULD THAT SCHOOL BE - DISQUALIFIED? - >> I THINK WHAT THE DEFINING - FEATURE OR WHAT ARE OR WHAT - WOULD MAKE THE DIFFERENCE IS - WHETHER CHILDREN ARE BEING - TAUGHT THAT YOUR RELIGION - DEMANDS THAT YOU DO THESE - THINGS, THAT YOUR RELIGION -- - >> BUT THEN YOU REALLY ARE - DISCRIMINATING ON THE BASIS OF - RELIGIOUS BELIEF. - JOHN: TODAY'S CASE IS ONE OF - THREE DEALING WITH RELIGIOUS - RIGHTS THE COURT IS CONSIDERING - THIS TERM. - >> THIS IS A COURT THAT NOT ONLY - IS VERY INTERESTED IN HOW - RELIGION IS BEING TREATED, BUT - ALSO FEELS VERY RONGLY THAT - THE FREE EXERCISE CLAUSE IN - PARTICULAR IN THE FIRST - AMENDMENT SHOULD BE AGGRESSIVELY - ENFORCED OR IMPLEMENTED. - JOHN: MARCIA COYLE IS CHIEF - WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT FOR THE - NATIONAL LAW JOURNAL. - >> THE COURT FELL INTO SOMETHING - OF A FAMILIAR PATTERN WITH THESE - CASES. - YOU HAD THE COURT'S CONSERVATIVE - MAJORITY BEING VERY SKEPTICAL OF - THE STATE OF MAINE'S ARGUMENTS. - AND THEN YOU HAD THE THREE

- JUSTICES ON THE LIBERAL WING OF - THE COURT WHO FEEL THAT NOW WAIT - A MINUTE. - THIS IS ALMOST IF WE STRIKE DOWN - THIS PROGRAM AND REQUIRE A STATE - TO FUND RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS. - THAT'S ALMOST A STEP TOO FAR IN - TERMS OF WHAT THE COURT HAS BEEN - DOING, THAT THERE STILL IS - SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. - JOHN: THE JUSTICES WILL DELIVER - THEIR DECISIONS THE THREE - RELIGION CASES BY THE END OF - JUNE 2022. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M JOHN - YANG. - ♪ - JUDY: LAWYERS PRESENTED OPENING - ARGUMENTS TODAY IN THE TRIAL OF - FORMER MINNESOTA POLICE OFFICER - KIM POTTER. - LAST APRIL, SHE FATALLY SHOT - DAUNTE WRIGHT, A 20-YEAR-OLD - BLACK MAN DURING A TRAFFIC STOP - , IN A MINNEAPOLIS SUBURB. - SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT FRED DE

- SAM LAZARO HAS THIS REPORT ON - THE EVENTS THAT LED TO TODAY'S - TRIAL. - IT'S PART OF OUR ONGOING SERIES, - RACE MATTERS. - AND A WARNING -- SOME OF THE - IMAGES IN THIS STO ARE - DISTURBING. - P CHANTING] - FRED: IN DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS - LAST WEEK, PROTESTERS RALLIED - FOR THE FAMILY OF DAUNTE WRIGHT. - THEY TOOK TO THE STREETS OUTSIDE - THE HENNEPIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE, - AS JURY SELECTION GOT UNDERWAY - IN THE MANSLAUGHTER TRIAL OF KIM - POTTER. - >> KIM POTTER IS A KILLER COP - AND SHE NEEDS TO BE IMPRISONED - FOR A LONG TIME. - NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE. - FRED: PERHAPS UNDERLINING THE - SIMMERING TENSIONS HERE -- JUST - MOMENTS BEFORE DEMONSTRATORS - BEGAN MARCHING, A CAR FORCED ITS - WAY THROUGH THE CROWD. - NO ONE APPEARED SERIOUSLY - INJURED AND THE PROTEST WENT ON. - THE MINNEAPOLIS-ST. PAUL AREA - HAS BEEN ON EDGE FOR MORE THAN - 18 MONTHS -- SINCE THE POLICE - KILLING OF GEORGE FLOYD AND THE - UNREST THAT FOLLOWED. - BUT THAT ANXIETY INTENSIFIED - LAST APRIL -- IN THE WANING DAYS

- OF DEREK CHAUVIN'S MURDER TRIAL - -- WHEN WRIGHT WAS KILLED DURING - A TRAFFIC STOP IN THE - MINNEAPOLIS SUBURB OF BROOKLYN - CENTER. - POTTER -- A VETERAOF THE FORCE - -- AND TWO OTHER OFFICERS PULLED - HIM OVER FOR EXPIRED TAGS AND A - HANGING AIR FRESHENER. - THE OFFICERS THEN DISCOVERED - WRIGHT HAD AN OUTSTANDING - WARRANT -- AND WHEN THEY WENT TO - ARREST HIM, HE TRIED TO GET BACK - IN HIS CAR. - >> TASER! TASER! TASER! I JUST - SHOT HIM. - FRED: THE KILLING SET OFF DAYS - OF PROTESTS OUTSIDE THE BROOKLYN - CENTER POLICE DEPARTMENT. - THERE WERE CLASHES BETWEEN - DEMONSTRATORS AND LAW - ENFORCEMENT, WHO DEPLOYED RUBBER - BULLETS, FLASH-BANGS AND TEAR - GAS. - MEANWHILE, WRIGHT'S FAMILY - GRIEVED PUBLICLY. - >> THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE - JUSTICE FOR US. THE JUSTICE - WOULD BRING OUR SON HOME TO US, - KNOCKING ON THE DOOR WITH HIS - BIG SMILE, COMING IN THE HOUSE, - JUSTICE IS NOT EVEN A WORD TO - ME.

- I DO WANT ACCOUNTABILITY. A - HUNDRED PERCENT ACCOUNTABILITY. - FRED: POTTER RESIGNED FROM THE - DEPARTMENT AND WAS LATER CHARGED - WITH FIRST AND SECOND DEGREE - MANSLAUGHTER. - DURING TODAY'S OPENING - STATEMENTS, PROSECUTORS LAID OUT - THEIR CASE. - >> SHE WAS TRAINED TO BE AWARE - OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN HER - GUN AND HER TASER. - THIS CASE IS ABOUT AN OFFICER - WHO KNEW NOT TO GET IT DEAD - WRONG, BUT SHE FAILED TO GET IT - RIGHT. - FRED: BUT POTTER'S LAWYERS - ARGUED MISTAKES CAN OCCUR - DESPITE TRAINING AND THAT SHE - ACTED SWIFTLY TO PROTECT FELLOW - OFFICERS. - >> MR. WRIGHT CAN STOP. - ALL HE HAS TO DO IS STOP AND HE - WOULD BE WITH US. - BUT HE GOES. - SHE CAN'T LET HIM LEAVE. - BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO KILL HER - PARTNER. - SO SHE DOES TASER, TASER, TASER, - AND SHE PULLS THE TRIGGER, - BELIEVING IT WAS A TASER.

- FRED: POTTER WILL TAKE THE STAND - IN HER OWN DEFENSE. - >> SOME PEOPLE WANT THE CRIMINAL - SYSTEM TO SPEAK TO REALLY BROAD - ISSUES OF OF JUSTICE AND - MORALITY, AND THEY WANT THE - TRIAL TO BE ABOUT WAS KIM POTTER - WRONG? - FRED: RACHEL MORAN IS A LAW - PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF - ST. THOMAS. SHE SAYS THE TRIAL - MAY BE DISSATISFYING FOR MEMBERS - OF THE COMMUNITY CLAMORING FOR - SYSTEMIC CHANGE. - >> THE TRIAL IS GOING TO HINGE - ON CAN THE STATE SHOW THAT SHE - -- NOT THAT SHE MEANT TO KILL - HIM, BUT THAT SHE DISREGARDED - HER TRAINING, THAT HER ACTIVE - GRABBING THE GUN INSTEAD OF THE - TASER WAS SO BEYOND THE PALE OF - WHAT ANY REASONABLE OFFICER - WOULD DO THAT IT COULD BE - CONSIDERED RECKLESS -- THOSE ARE - TOUGH QUESTIONS TO ANSWER AND - THAT IS WHERE THE NUANCE EXISTS. - FRED: IN THE MEANTIME, OFFICIALS - AND RESIDENTS ARE GRAPPLING OVER - WHAT IS NEXT FOR BROOKLYN - CENTER.

- THE KILLING OF DAUNTE WRIGHT - SEEMED TO BRING TO THE SURFACE - ISSUES AROUND RACE AND POLICING - THAT HAD LURKED JUST BELOW, IN A - CITY THAT RAPIDLY HAS BECOME - MINNESOTA'S MOST DIVERSE. - >> I FEEL VERY MUCH PERSONALLY - RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENED - WITH THE KILLING OF DAUNTE - WRIGHT. - FRED: MIKE ELLIOTT IS THE MAYOR - OF BROOKLYN CENTER. - HE HAS PUSHED A NUMBER OF PUBLIC - SAFETY REFORMS, INCLUDING USING - UNARMED CIVILIANS FOR CERTAIN - TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS, AND MOVING - FUNDS FROM POLICE TO MENTAL - HEALTH SPECIALISTS AND SOCIAL - WORKERS. - >> WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR 911 - CALL DATA, WE SAW ONLY 22% OF - THE CALLS WERE CRIMINAL OR CRIME - -RELATED. - ALMOST 80% OF THE CALLS WERE - EITHER -- 43% WERE A GENERAL - CALL FOR HELP, ABOUT 11% MEDICAL - AND MENTAL HEALTH -- WE SAW - THERE WAS A GREAT NEED FOR US TO - HAVE THIS ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE - SYSTEM. - FRED: BUT IT HAS BEEN A TOUGH - SELL, HASN'T IT? - >> IT HAS, YOU KNOW, AS YOU

- KNOWANYTHING NEW IS A TOUGH - SELL, RIGHT? - FRED: AFTER POLICE UNIONS WARNED - THE PROPOSAL WOULD THREATEN - PUBLIC SAFETY, THE CITY COUNCIL - THIS WEEK APPROVED A COMPROMISE, - TAKING LESS MONEY THAN - ORIGINALLY PLANNED FROM THE - POLICE DEPARTMENT. - FOR NOW, ALL EYES ARE ON THE - COURTROOM. - >> I, ALONG WITH EVERYBODY IN - OUR COMMUNITY, WANTS TO SEE - JUSTICE SERVED. - JUSTICE DOESN'T JUST, THOUGH, - MEAN WHAT HAPPENS IN THE - COURTROOM. - IT IS PREVENTING THE KIND OF - CONDITIONS THAT CAN LEAD TO A - DAUNTE WRIGHT BEING SHOT AND - KILLED. - FRED: A PLEA THAT WRIGHT'S - MOTHER HAS REPEATED SINCE APRIL. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M FRED - DE SAM LAZARO IN BROOKLYN - CENTER, MINNESOTA. - ♪ - JUDY: IT'S BEEN NEARLY FOUR - MONTHS SINCE THE UNITED STATES - ' WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN, - THE COLLAPSE OF THE AFGHAN

- GOVERNMENT, AND THE TALIBAN - TAKEOVER. - THE COUNTRY IS NOW WIDELY SEEN - IN FREEFALL, WITH CITIZENS IN - DANGER AND A SPIRALING - HUMANITARIAN CRISIS. - HERE'S NICK SCHIFRIN. - NICK: AFGHANISTAN IS ON THE - BRINK OF MASS STARVATION. - EVERY SINGLE AFGHAN PROVINCE IS - CONSIDERED FOOD INSECURE OR, - EVEN IN CRISIS. - 23 MILLION AFGHANS NEED FOOD - ASSISTANCE. - 8.7 MILLION ARE NEARING FAMINE. - ONE MILLION CHILDREN FACE - SEVERE, ACUTE MALNUTRITION AND - COULD STARVE AND DIE THIS WINTER - -- FAR MORE THAN DIED IN 20 - YEARS OF WAR. - SCHOOLS HAVE NO MONEY TO PAY - TEACHERS BECAUSE THE BANKING - SYSTEM IS INOPERABLE. - AND THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS - NEAR COLLAPSE BECAUSE - INTERNATIONAL ASSISTANCE THAT - WAS THE SOURCE OF FUNDING HAS - BEEN FROZEN. - TO TALK ABOUT U.S. POLICY, I'M - JOINED BY TOM WEST, RECENTLY - NAMED THE U.S. SPECIAL - REPRESENTATIVE FOR AFGHANISTAN, - IN HIS FIRST BROADCAST INTERVIEW - IN THIS ROLE. TOM WEST, WELCOME - TO THE NEWSHOUR. - THE U.S. IS PROVIDING HUNDREDS - OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN

- HUMANITARIAN AID, BUT IT HAS - FROZEN ALL OTHER ASSISNCE AND - CAPTAIN PLACE PRE-EXISTING - SANCTIONS THAT HAVE BECOME - DEFECTIVE SANCTIONS ON THE - AFGHAN GOVERNMENT. - WHY? - >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. - LET ME SAY THAT THE HUMANITARIAN - CRISIS WORSENING AFGHANISTAN IS - THAT THE CENTER OF POLICYMAKING. - YOU MENTIONED HUNDREDS OF - MILLIONS, IT IS $474 MILLION IN - U.S. HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE, - THAT IS IN ADDITION TO $4.1 - BILLION SINCE 2002. - WE HAVE ISSUED GENERAL LICENSES - THAT AIM TO PROVIDE FOR - HUMANITARIAN ACTORS, AND GEO'S - TO SCALE UP AND MEET THE NEEDS - OF THE CRISIS THIS WINTER - THROUGHOUT REACH TO PARTICULAR - CORPORATIONS. - WE HAVE MANAGED TO STITCH - TOGETHER IN OPERATION THAT IS - TRACKING IN MANY MILLIONS OF - DOLLARS EXPLICITLY TO HELP - HUMANITARIAN ORGANIZATION SCALE - UP. - WE TALKED TO THE TALIBAN ABOUT - THE MAGNITUDE OF AFGHANISTAN'S

- DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN AID IN THE - MONTHS LEADING UP TO THEIR - TAKEOVER. - THEY CHOSE A MILITARY TAKEOVER. - I THINK THEY KNEW THE - CONSEQUENCES. - THEY MADE THAT DECISION ANYWAY. - UNFORTUNATELY, THE AFGHAN PEOPLE - ARE SUFFERING AS A RESULT. - NICK: THE U.S.-MADTHOSE - CONSEQUENCES CLEAR, BUT WE ARE - WITNESSING STATE COLLAPSE IN - REAL-TIME. - BUN SAYS 97% WILL BE IN POVERTY. - THAT IS A LEVEL OF POVERTY NEVER - SEEN BEFORE IN ANY CONFLICT - ANYWHERE. - DO YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT U.S. - POLICY IS EXACERBATING THE - CRISIS EVEN IF THE U.S. DID NOT - START IT? - >> I WOULD SAY COLLECTIVELY THE - INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY HAS NOT - YET DECIDED TO PURSUE SANCTIONS - RELIEF. - THERE ARE A RANGE OF THINGS WE - WANT TO SEE FROM THE TALIBAN - WHEN IT COMES TO ESTABLISHING A - RECORD OF RESPONSIBLE CONDUCT. - NICK: WHAT IS IT EXACTLY YOU - EXPECT THE TALIBAN TO DO RIGHT - NOW? - >> WE ARE NOT CONDITIONING

- HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE ON - ANYTHING THE TALIBAN MOVES - FORWARD WITH. - THE $474 MILLION IS MOVING. - I WOULD ADD THAT THERE ARE $1.5 - BILLION STALLED AT THE WORLD - BANK. - THE AFGHANISTAN RECONSTRUCTION - TRUST FUND. - THAT USE TO SUPPORT 75% OF - PUBLIC EXPENDITURES. - NICK: THIS IS WELL BEYOND - HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE. - THIS IS WHAT THE GOVERNMENT - CALLS HUMANITARIAN PLUS - ASSISTANCE. - THE VERY IDEA OF GETTING CASH - INTO SOCIETY, PEOPLE SALARIES - BEING PAID WITHOUT ALL OF WHICH - THEY CANNOT LIVE, THEY CANNOT - ACTUALLY SURVIVE THROUGHOUT THE - DAY. - DO YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS - A QUESTION MORE THAN MORALITY, A - QUESTION OF NATIONAL SECURITY? - IF THE AFGHAN STATE COLLAPSES, - DO YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THERE MIGHT - BE A MIGRATION CRISIS THAT COULD - DESTABILIZE THE REGION? - >> MY FIRST STOP ABROAD IN THIS - JOB WAS TO BRUSSELS, WHERE I - CONSULTED WITH OUR ALLIES. - YES, I THINK THE POSSIBILITY OF

- A REPEAT OF 2015 AND 2016 LOOMS - VERY LARGE IN THEIR MINDS AND - THAT IS WHITE ON BEHALF OF OUR - ALLIES, THAT IS REASON ENOUGH TO - DO MORE TO MITIGATE THIS - HUMANITARIAN CRISIS UNDERWAY. - NICK: LET'S TRY TO DO SOME - SPECIFICS AND GET INTO THE - HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. - I WANT TO SHOW A CLIP FROM A - HOSPITAL IN KABUL THAT MY - COLLEAGUE FILMED LAST MONTH. - >> SON OF SADAM WRITTEN ON A - PIECE OF TAPE STUCK TO THIS - CHILD'S CHEST IS ALL THAT - IDENTIFIES HIM. WITH EACH - SHALLOW BREATH, HIS CHANCES OF - MAKING IT GROW THINNER. THIS - WARD IS PACKED, FRAIL, SICK - BABIES LINED UP NEXT TO ONE - ANOTHER IN BEDS MEANT FOR ONE. - ALMOST A THIRD DON'T MAKE IT. - THAT MEANS FOUR OR FIVE OF THE - BABIES IN THIS ROOM WILL DIE. - NICK: WHAT IS THE U.S. DOING TO - HELP THOSE CHILDREN? - >> THE URGENCY OF A POLICY - RESPONSE IS UNDERWAY, BUT LOOK, - NICK, THOSE IMAGES ARE JUST - ABSOLUTELY HEARTBREAKING FOR

- ANYBODY WHO CARES ABOUT AFGHANS. - I THINK, AS A SOCIETY, A LOT OF - US IN AMERICA STILL CARE ABOUT - THE AFGHAN PEOPLE. - NICK: LET'S TALK ABOUT EDUCATION - A LITTLE BIT. - 222,000 TEACHERS. - CAN THE U.S. HELP PAY THE - SALARIES? - SALARIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PAID - FOR MUCH OF THE YEAR. - >> I WOULD SKETCH FOR YOU MAY BE - TWO AREAS OF STRONG CONSENSUS - WITHIN THE INTERNATIONAL - COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO - POTENTIAL SUPPORT TO TEACHERS - AGAIN THROUGH THE WORLD BANK. - WE WANT TO SEE A SERIOUS AND - RIGOROUS ACADEMIC CURRICULUM. - WE HAVE RECEIVED STRONG - ASSURANCES FROM THE TALIBAN THAT - THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN - REVISING THE CURRICULUM OF THE - LAST 20 YEARS. - SECOND, WE WANT TO SEE SOME - QUIET EFFORTS TO IN EFFECT - MONITOR AND GIVE US CONFIDENCE - THAT WHEN THE TALIBAN SAY WOMEN

- AND GIRLS ARE BACK IN SCHOOL, WE - WANT INDEPENDENT MONITORS TO LET - US KNOW THE SAME. - WE HAVE SEEN POSITIVE PUBLIC - STATEMENTS IN THIS REGARD FROM A - RANGE OF OFFICIALS WITH THE - TALIBAN, BUT WE WANT TO SEE - FOLLOWTHROUGH AND WE WANT TO SEE - A MONITORING ARRANGEMENT IN - PLACE. - NICK: IS THAT FOLLOWTHROUGH - WORTH RISKING THE LIVES OF A - MILLION CHILDREN THIS WINTER, - GIVEN THAT THOSE CHILDREN WILL - NEED MORE THAN EMERGENCY - HUMANITARIAN AID, THEY NEED - STRUCTURAL ASSISTANCE THAT THE - U.S. IS CURRENTLY FREEZING? - >> WHEN I SAY FOLLOWTHROUGH, I - MEAN SPECIFICALLY ON EDUCATION - AND THE MATTER OF SALARIES. - UNFORTUNATELY, PROVIDING 200,000 - TEACHERS THERE SALARIES, EVEN - THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH - TO TRULY MEANINGFULLY MITIGATE - THE SUFFERING UNDERWAY. - I THINK THE SCALE OF THE - INTERVENTION IS GOING TO HAVE TO - BE LARGER. - NICK: TOM WEST, THANK YOU VERY - MUCH. - >> THANK YOU, NICK.

- JUDY: LATE LAST NIGHT, THE U-S - -- U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES - PASSED ITS VERSION OF THE ANNUAL - NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION - ACT. - THE BILL -- WHICH STILL NEEDS - SENATE APPROVAL -- CONTAINS A - NUMBER OF CHANGES TO HOW THE - MILITARY DEALS WITH ITS - LONG-STANDING PROBLEM OF SEXUAL - ASSUALT. - BUT SOME MEMBERS OF CONGRESS SAY - THE REFORMS DON'T GO FAR ENOUGH - AND COULD EVEN EXACERBATE THE - PROBLEM. - AMNA NAWAZ HAS MORE. - AMNA: JUDY, FOR DECADES THERE - HAS BEEN A DEBATE AMONG MILITARY - EXPERTS AND ON CAPITOL HILL - ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE THE WAY THE - MILITARY INVESTIGATES AND - PROSECUTES ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL - ASSAULT IN ITS RANKS. ONE MAJOR - ISSUE IS THE ROLE AND INFLUENCE - OF MILITARY COMMANDERS IN - DECIDING HOW CASES ARE - ADJUDICATED. - WITH ME NOW IS NEW YORK - DEMOCRATIC SENATOR KIRSTEN - GILLIBRAND. - WELCOME BACK TO THE NEWSHOUR. - A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE BEEN HAILING

- THIS NEW LEGISLATION AS A - SEACHANGE, A GIANT LEAP FORWARD - FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVORS. - YOU HAVE SAID IT DOES HAVE SOME - MAJOR REFORMS, BUT IT DOES NOT - GO FAR ENOUGH AND YOU PLAN TO - VOTE AGAINST IT. - WHY? - >> IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY. - WE HAD SUCH A GROUND WELL OF - SUPPORT TO CREATING AN - INDEPENDENT PROSECUTOR THAT - FUNCTIONED OUTSIDE THE CHAIN OF - COMMAND, ONE THAT WAS HIGHLY - TRAINED WITH NO BIAS. - UNFORTUNATELY, THE HOUSE IN THE - CONFERENCE COMMITTEE CHOSE TO - RETAIN AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF - AUTHORITY WITHIN THE CHAIN OF - COMMAND. - THE COMMANDER IS STILL THE - CONVENING AUTHORITY. - AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY TRIAL, - IT WILL SAY THIS COURT-MARTIAL - HAS BEEN CONVENED BY XYZ - COMMANDER. - THE COMMANDER CONTINUES TO - RETAIN AUTHORITY TO CHOOSE SOME - OF THE WITNESSES, TO GIVE - PERMISSION FOR CERTAIN EXPERT - TESTIMONY, TO ENTIRELY DISMISS - SOMEONE FROM THE MILITARY. - THERE IS A LOT OF AUTHORITY THAT - IS STILL IN THE COMMANDER'S

- HANDS, SO FROM MY PERCEPTION OF - A SURVIVOR OR PLAINTIFF, I DON'T - THINK THEY WILL BELIEVE THAT - THIS PROCESS IS INDEPENDENT OF - THEIR COMMANDER, WHO MAY WELL BE - IN THEIR OWN CHAIN OF COMMAND OR - THE CHAIN OF COMMAND OF THEIR - PERPETRATOR AND THE PERSON THEY - ARE ACCUSING OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. - AMNA: COMMANDERS DID LOSE SOME - POWER, THEY NO LONGER HAVE THE - AUTHORITY TO DECIDE IF THE - ACCUSED COULD BE PROSECUTED IN - THE FIRST PLACE. - NOW, THE LEAD TRIAL COUNSEL - REPORTS STRAIGHT UP TO THE - SECRETARY OF EACH MILITARY - BRANCH, WHICH IS A CHANGE. - THERE IS ALSO A CHANGE FOR - TRACKING INSTANCES OF - RETALIATION. - DO YOU THINK THOSE WILL HAVE - IMPACT? - >> ALL OF THOSE CHANGES WOULD - SEEM TO BE POSITIVE, BUT ABOUT A - THIRD OF SERVICEMEMBERS WHO ARE - ASSAULTED IN THE MILITARY DON'T - REPORT BECAUSE THEY DON'T - BELIEVE THE CHAIN OF COMMAND - WILL HAVE THEIR BACK. - IN FACT, 44% WHEN SURVEYED SAID - THEY WOULD BE MORE LIKELY TO - REPORT IF THE DECISION-MAKING

- WAS NOT WITHIN THE CHAIN OF - COMMAND. - SO, YES, THEY MADE SOME CHANGES, - I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THOSE - CHANGES WILL WORK BECAUSE THEY - DID NOT MEET THE NEED OF AN - INDEPENDENT MILITARY JUSTICE - SYSTEM. - AMNA: SO WHAT HAPPENED? - I RECALL IN THE SUMMER YOU WERE - CONFIDENT THE BILL WOULD MOVE - FORWARD. - WE SHOULD NOTE THE FINAL TEXT - WAS DONE BY THE CHAIRMAN AND - RANKING MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE AND - SENATE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE, - SO YOU WERE NOT IN THE ROOM. - HOW DID IT GET REMOVED? - >> SENDER JACK REED AND HIS - RANKING MEMBER, AS WELL AS - CONGRESSMAN ADAM SMITH AND HIS - RANKING MEMBER CHOSE TO TAKE IT - OUT. - IT DID PASS IN THE SENATE ARMED - SERVICES COMMITTEE, THE ENTIRE - PROVISION. - WE THOUGHT IT DID HAVE - SUFFICIENT SUPPORT. - BUT THESE FOUR MEN HAVE ENORMOUS - POWER AND BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, - THEY CHOSE TO PUT THEIR WELL IN - FRONT OF THE WILL OF ALL OF - THOSE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. - THE OTHER REFORM THEY CHOSE NOT - TO TAKE IS A BRIGHT LINE OF ALL - SERIOUS CRIMES THAT ARE - NONMILITARY. - OUR BILL HAD 38 CRIMES REMOVED

- FROM THE CHAIN OF COMMAND. - THIS BILL CHOSE TO REMOVE 11. - IT DID NOT REMOVE ASSAULT AND - CHILD ABUSE, THINGS THAT SHOULD - HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE CHAIN - OF COMMAND, BECAUSE A LOT OF - CRIMES CAN BE SHOVED RIGHT UNDER - THOSE TWO. - WHEN YOU HAVE JUST A SMALL - NUMBER OF CRIMES BEING REMOVED - AND GIVEN TO A SPECIAL - PROSECUTOR, YOU RUN THE RISK - THAT SERVICEMEMBERS WILL SEE - THIS AS SPECIAL TREATMENT, - SPECIFICALLY FOR CRIMES THAT - TARGET WOMEN. - WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE SEEN AS - GETTING SPECIAL TREATMENT AND - FURTHER MARGINALIZED. - WE CALL THAT A PINK COURT. - THAT IS WHY WE RECOMMENDED A - BRIGHT LINE FOR THE SERIOUS - CRIMES. - AMNA: I NEED TO ASK YOU ABOUT - THESE REPORTS THAT THERE WERE - TOP MILITARY LAWYERS AND EVEN - THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE - LOBBYING MEMBERS OF CONGRESS - AGAINST YOUR EXPENSIVE - LEGISLATION. - IS THAT TRUE AND WHY WOULD THEY - DO THAT? - >> I'M WELL AWARE THAT THE - SECRETARY OF DEFENSE WAS CALLING

- AROUND, INCLUDING CALLING THE - MAJORITY LEADER AND OTHERS TO BE - HEARD. - THAT IS OBVIOUSLY HIS RIGHT. - BUT EVERYONE WHO SERVES IN THE - MILITARY KNOWS THE CONVENING - AUTHORITY IS DETERMINANT FOR THE - PROJECTION OF POWER IN THESE - CASES, SO SERVICEMEMBERS KNOW - THAT IF THE CONVENING AUTHORITY - IS STILL THE COMMANDER THAT THE - COMMANDER HOLDS ENORMOUS WEIGHT - IN THE OUTCOME OF THESE CASES. - AMNA: THAT IS DEMOCRATIC SENATOR - KIERSTEN GILLIBRAND JOINING US - TONIGHT. - THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. - >> YES. - AMNA: FOR A DIFFERENT - PERSPECTIVE WE TURN TO RHODE - ISLAND DEMOCRAT JACK REED. HE - IS CHAIRMAN OF SENATE ARMED - SERVICES COMMITTEE. - WELCOME BACK TO THE NEWSHOUR. - YOU JUST HEARD SENATOR - GILLIBRAND TALK ABOUT THE BROAD - SUPPORT FOR HER MORE EXPENSIVE - REFORMS. - 66 SENATORS, 220 MEMBERS OF - CONGRESS, ATTORNEYS GENERAL - AROUND THE COUNTRY. - THEY WANTED THOSE MORE BROAD - REFORMS.

- WHY DID YOU CUT THEM OUT OF THE - BILL? - >> WE ACTUALLY EXPANDED THE - REFORMS THE HOUSE HAD PROPOSED - AND INDEED THE HOUSE DID NOT - CONSIDER SENATOR GILLIBRAND'S - LEGISLATION EITHER IN THE - COMMITTEE OR ON THE FLOOR. - WHAT WE MANAGED TO ACCOMPLISH IN - THE CONFERENCE WAS TO EXPAND AND - INCLUDE CRIMES THAT ARE NOT - SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO SEXUAL - BEHAVIOR, SO IT IS NO LONGER A - PINK COURT. - IT OFFERS THE POSSIBILITY OF - FURTHER CHANGES TO EXPANDING - THAT LIST, SO WE HAVE GONE A - LONG WAY TO RECOGNIZE THE - PROBLEM. - THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT HAS - BEEN UNDERCUTTING OUR MILITARY - FOR YEARS, THE EXPECTATION, THE - HOPE WAS THAT THERE COULD BE A - MILITARY SOLUTION, BUT I THINK - WE NEED IT AND I WOULD COMMEND - CONGRESSWOMAN SPEARS AND SENATOR - GILLIBRAND AND SENATOR ERNST FOR - WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. - I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO - TO FORT HOOD AND TALK TO

- INDIVIDUAL SOLDIERS, FEMALE - SOLDIERS, GET A SENSE OF WHAT - THEY NEED AND RESTORE TRUST AND - THIS LEGISLATION WILL DO THAT - AND DO IT IN A WAY THAT WILL - PROVIDE FAIR JUSTICE. - AMNA: IF I MAY, LET ME ASK YOU - ABOUT THE SPECIFICS. - MANY WILL ARGUE THAT IT DOES NOT - GO FAR ENOUGH, THAT YOU MAY HAVE - CREATED A SEPARATE SYSTEM FOR - SOME CRIMES, BUT THAT THE - MILITARY COMMANDER STILL HAS - ENORMOUS AUTHORITY AND INFLUENCE - OVER HOW SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES - ARE PROSECUTED. - MILITARY COMMANDERS IN THIS - SYSTEM RETAIN THE AUTHORITY TO - CONVENE TRIALS, TO CHOOSE JURY - MEMBERS, TO GRANT IMMUNITY TO - WITNESSES, TO APPROVE WITNESSES - AND DEFENSE EXPERTS. - WHY SHOULD MILITARY COMMANDERS - RETAIN THAT KIND OF POWER? - >> THE MILITARY COMMANDERS HAVE - THE AUTHORITY AS THE CONVENING - AUTHORITY TO SELECT A JURY POOL, - JUST AS IN CIVILIAN COURTS THE - SELECTION OF INDIVIDUAL JURORS - IS THE CHOICE OF THE DEFENSE - LAWYER, THE SPECIAL TRIAL - LAWYER, AND THE JUDGE.

- UNDER SENATOR GILLIBRAND'S - PROPOSAL, IT WOULD BE SOLELY THE - AUTHORITY OF THE PROSECUTOR TO - PICK THE JURY AND THAT I THINK - WOULD RAISE SERIOUS - CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTIONS AND DUE - PROCESS QUESTIONS ABOUT - FAIRNESS. - AMNA: IF I MAY, HER CASE IS THAT - WOULD BE AN INDEPENDENT - PROSECUTOR. - >> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY - CIVILIAN COURT IN THE WORLD IN - WHICH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY GETS - TO PICK THE JERRY BECAUSE THEY - HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO PICK PEOPLE - WHO WILL BE ON THEIR SIDE. - I THINK WHAT WE WANT IS FAIRNESS - AND WHAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED BY - ALLOWING THE CONVENING AUTHORITY - TO ESTABLISH THE POOL, NOT TO - SELECT THE JURORS, BUT TO - ESTABLISH THE POOL, WE GIVE E - OPPORTUNITY FOR THE JUDGE, THE - PROSECUTOR, AND THE DEFENSE - LAWYER TO EXERCISE JURY - SELECTION THROUGH A SERIES OF - CHALLENGES OR PREEMPTIVE - CHALLENGES. - THAT IS THE WAY IT IS DONE IN

- EVERY COURT IN AMERICA. - TO TURN IT OVER TO THE - PROSECUTOR, I DON'T THINK IT - WOULD BE ACCEPTED BY ANY CIVIL - AUTHORITY. - AMNA: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT HOW - THIS IS BEING RECEIVED. - THERE HAVE BEEN SOME FORMER - MILITARY LAWYERS WHO HAVE SAID - THERE IS NO WAY A PROSECUTOR CAN - BE INDEPENDENT IN THIS SYSTEM, - THAT THE MILITARY COMMANDERS - WOULD EXERT ENORMOUS INFLUENCE. - SURVIVORS GROUPS SAY IT DOES NOT - GO FAR ENOUGH AND IT FEEDS THE - MISTRUST THAT EVERYONE AGREES - EXIST IN THE SYSTEM, THAT - SERVICEMEMBERS DO NOT FEEL - COMFORTABLE THAT OFFENDERS WILL - BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. - WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE TO THOSE - SURVIVORS? - ESPECIALLY THE MILITARY MEMBERS - WHO DON'T BELIEVE THIS GOES FAR - ENOUGH. - >> ALL I CAN SAY IS THE MOST - PROMINENT GROUP WHO SUPPORTS - REFORMS HAS CALLED THIS THE MOST - TRANSFORMATIVE LEGISLATION IN - THE HISTORY OF THE MILITARY - JUSTICE SYSTEM. - SO, WE HAVE MADE EXTRAORDINARY - STRIDES. - WE HAVE SIGNALED TO ALL OF THE

- MEN AND WOMEN IN THE ARMED - FORCES THAT WE HAVE HEARD THEM, - THAT WE ARE CREATING A SYSTEM IN - WHICH THE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR - WILL HAVE THE SOLE RIGHT, NOT - THE COMMANDER TO REFER THESE - CHARGES. - THEY CAN'T BE OVERRULED BY A - COMMANDER. - WE HAVE MAINTAINED THE ABILITY - TO HAVE A FAIR AND IMPARTIAL - JURY. - ULTIMATELY, THIS IS GOING TO BE - COUPLED WITH ALSO SIGNIFICANT - PREVENTIVE INITIATIVES THAT WE - PUT IN THE LEGISLATION. - I THINK ONE OF THE PERCEPTIONS - IS THAT THIS IS THE ONLY REMEDY. - THE BEST REMEDY IS PREVENTION, - NOT SIMPLY ADJUDICATION. - WE HAVE ALSO DONE THAT AND THAT - IS IN THIS LEGISLATION. - SO WE ARE TRYING AND I HOPE WILL - SUCCEED, WE WILL DO ALL WE CAN - TO SUCCEED TO CREATE AN - ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH TROOPS - TRUST THEIR COMMANDERS AND - COMMANDERS KNOW THEIR TROOPS AND - CARE FOR THOSE TROOPS. - THAT IS NOT ONLY A BASIC TENANT - OF HUMAN BEHAVIOR, BUT IT IS - ALSO THE GLUE WHICH HOLDS COMBAT

- UNITS TOGETHER. - INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY AND AN - INDIVIDUAL SENSE OF PROTECTING - YOUR SUBORDINATES, PROTECTING - YOUR COMRADES. - THAT IS WHAT WE ARE STRIVING FOR - AND I THINK WE WILL ACHIEVE IT. - AMNA: THAT IS SENATOR JACK REED - JOINING US TONIGHT. - MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR - TIME. - >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. - JUDY: AS CONGRESS IS IN ITS - FINAL WEEKS IN SESSION FOR THIS - YEAR, U.S. SENATORS ARE DECIDING - HOW THEY WILL VOTE ON A DEAL TO - RAISE THE DEBT CEILING AFTER THE - HOUSE PASSED THE FIRST PIECE OF - THE PLAN LAST NIGHT. - LEADERS IN BOTH PARTIES ARE - PROJECTING CONFIDENCE, BUT THE - STAKES ARE HIGH. - LISA HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHY THE - DEBT LIMIT HAS BECOME SO - POLITICAL AND WHAT EXACTLY IT - DOES.

- >> THE DEBT PART IS EASY. - THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS THE - LARGEST SPENDER IN THE WORLD. - EVERYTHING FROM THE MILITARY AND - SOCAL SECURITY BENEFITS TO - SCHOOL LUNCHES AND EVEN FEEDING - ANIMALS AT THE NATIONAL ZOO. - BUT THE U.S. SPENDS MORE MONEY - THAN IT TAKES IN, A LOT MORE. - FOR MOST OF THE PAST 100 YEARS, - WE HAVE OPERATED OFF RED INK. - ALL OF THAT GOVERNMENT SPENDING - IS FUNDED IN GOOD PART BY DEBT. - THE DEBT LIMIT OR CEILING CUTS - OFF HOW MUCH GOVERNMENT CAN - BORROW AT ANY TIME. - BUT U.S. SPENDING IS ALREADY IN - MOTION, PLANES HAVE BEEN - ORDERED, GOVERNMENT JOBS I - PLACE, SO THE DEBT CEILING DOES - NOT MEAN OUR DEBT OR BILLS WILL - STOP, IT ONLY STOPS THE U.S. - ABILITY TO BORROW RIGHT NOW AND - TO PAY FOR THOSE BILLS. - SOMEONE WHO HAS TESTIFIED ABOUT - OUR DEBT EXPLAINS. - >> THE PURPOSE OF THE DEBT - CEILING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE

- ARE NOT BORROWING UNLIMITED - AMOUNTS, BUT WE HAVE A CHECK AND - WE CONSIDER, ARE WE BORROWING - THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND - FOR THE RIGHT THINGS? - >> WHEN FIRST INTRODUCED, THE - OVERALL U.S. DEBT LIMIT WAS SET - FAR ABOVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING - AND LEFT ROOM, BUT NOW THE DEBT - LIMIT IS ROUTINELY SET AT OR - NEAR WHAT WE SPEND, SO CONGRESS, - BOTH PARTIES, HAS TO LIVE THE - DEBT CEILING REGULARLY, LIKE IN - THE AGREEMENT THIS WEEK. - >> WE HAVE CLEARED THE PATH - HOPEFULLY FOR THE DEBT LIMIT. - >> OR TWO YEARS AGO. - >> WE THINK IT WAS THE BEST - CIRCUMSTANCE. - >> CONGRESS CAN EITHER RAISE THE - DEBT LIMIT OR THEY CAN SUSPEND - IT BY PUNTING THE PROBLEM TO A - FUTURE DATE. - BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THE U.S. - HITS THE DEBT LIMIT AND - DEFAULTS? - THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED, SO THIS - IS UNCHARTED, BUT IT IS LIKELY A - FINANCIAL DISASTER.

- TO HELP UNDERSTAND, THINK OF THE - U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS THE WORLD'S - LARGEST AIRPORT. - PLANES LIKE MONEY COME IN AND - PLANES GO OUT. - THINK OF BORROWING AS WHAT - POWERS THE AIRPORT. - THAT CUTS MAIN POWER TO THE - AIRPORT, SO MOST AIR TRAFFIC - STOPS. - NOW, IMAGINE THIS HAPPENED TO - EVERY U.S. AIRPORT. - THE TRAVEL OR FINANCIAL PROBLEMS - WOULD RIPPLE ACROSS THE WORLD IN - PROFOUND WAYS. - >> THAT AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY - THROWN INTO THE ECONOMY AND INTO - THE COUNTRY WHERE WE HAVE NEVER - HAD IT BEFORE COULD PUSH US BACK - INTO A RECESSION. - >> THE DOLLAR AND U.S. TREASURY - DEBT BONDS ARE A CORNERSTONE OF - GLOBAL TRADE. - MONEY FLIES IN AND OUT - CONSTANTLY, SO IF THE U.S. CAN'T - TAKE ON DEBT OR PAY ITS BILLS, - IT WOULD AFFECT INTEREST RATES - AND STOCK MARKETS AROUND THE - WORLD. - IT ALSO COULD QUICKLY AFFECT - THINGS LIKE MORTGAGES, CAR - PAYMENTS. - IT IS NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR, - INCLUDING TO THOSE IN THE - BUSINESS.

- >> HYPO LITTLE FAITH IN MY - ABILITY TO PREDICT WHAT WOULD - HAPPEN IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS, - OTHER THAN VOLATILITY AND - MARKETS DON'T LIKE VOLATILITY, - SO I KNOW IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY - NEGATIVE. - >>FOR GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, THERE - WOULD BE SOME KIND OF A SHUTDOWN - AND ONE WORSE THAN USUAL BECAUSE - MANDATORY PROGRAMS LIKE SOCIAL - SECURITY COULD SEE FUNDING CUT - OR FROZEN. - THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT WOULD - RATION OUT WHERE THE NATIONS - LIMITED CASH GOES. - WHY HASN'T CONGRESS JUST RAISED - THE DEBT CEILING? - WE ARE AT HISTORIC LEVELS OF - READING. - ONLY WORLD WAR II WAS HIGHER. - FOR LAWMAKERS, THERE IS REAL - CONCERN AND POLITICAL - MANEUVERING. - >> WE KNOW THE DEBT CEILING IS - ALWAYS GOING TO BE RAISED, THE - QUESTION IS HOW MUCH OF A - POLITICAL GAME OF CHICKEN WILL - WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH. - >> WE ARE IN A TIME OF GRIDLOCK, - CLOSE MARGINS, SHARP DIVIDES, - AND BIG SPENDING. - THE DEBT CEILING HAS BECOME A

- PIECE OF POLITICAL LEVERAGE IN - POLICY WARFARE. - THE DEBT LIMIT NOW THREATENS - INSTABILITY. - IT LARGELY SERVES AS A MIRROR OF - OUR POLITICAL INSTABILITY. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M LISA - DESJARDINS. - ♪ - JUDY: TERREL SCRUGGS IS A - TENNSEE NATIVE WITH A STRONG - SENSE OF HIS LIFE'S CALLING. - HE IS A PREACHER AND CAREGIVER, - PROVIDING SERVICES TO SENIORS IN - HIS NATIONAL COMMUNITY, EVEN - THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC. - TONIGHT, HE GIVES HIS BRIEF BUT - SPECTACULAR TAKE ON LIVING A - LIFE OF SERVICE. - >> CAREGIVING IS NOT A JOB, YOU - DO A JOB TO MAKE SOMETHING FOR - YOURSELF. - WITH CAREGIVING, YOU HAVE TO - GIVE SOMETHING BACK FROM WITHIN - YOURSELF. - MY MOTHER AND MY FATHER RAISED - US TO BE GOOD SAMARITANS.

- WE DON'T LOOK AT COLOR, WE DON'T - LOOK AT WEALTH, WE DON'T LOOK AT - MONEY, WE LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL - PERSON. - IF WE CAN HELP THEM, WE DO. - I WAS RAISED IN CHURCH, ABOUT - CHURCH, I BREATHE CHURCH, I LIVE - CHURCH. - WE ARE RELIGIOUS BY CHOICE AND - WE TEACH FOLKS HOW TO TREAT ONE - ANOTHER AS HUMAN BEINGS, NOT - BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU HAVE OR WHAT - YOU OWN OR WHAT YOU POSSESS. - IT IS JUST TOO YOU ARE. - AT 15 YEARS OLD, I PRAYED TO GOD - THAT IF HE EVER GIVE ME A - BROTHER, I WOULD TAKE CARE OF - HIM FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. - I WAS 20 YEARS OLD WHEN I FOUND - OUT THAT I HAD A BROTHER AND - WHEN I WENT TO VISIT MY - BIOLOGICAL FATHER, HE INTRODUCED - ME TO HIM AND FROM THEN ON, I - DECIDED I WAS GOING TO BE A PART - OF HIS LIFE. - MY BROTHER IS HIGHLY CHALLENGED. - HE DOES NOT SPEAK. HE DOES NOT

- TO. - I TOLD MY FATHER THAT WHATEVER - YOU NEED, LET ME KNOW AND I WILL - HELP YOU WITH HIM. - LATER ON, MY BIOLOGICAL FATHER - PASSED AND WE FOUND HIS MOTHER A - COUPLE YEARS LATER ON THE - KITCHEN FLOOR, ANEURYSM. - HER DAUGHTER TOOK HER WITH HER - TO ANOTHER COUNTY AND TOOK CARE - OF HER AND I TOOK MY BROTHER - WITH ME. - THAT IS HOW I GOT HIM. - THAT IS WHY I TOOK HIM IN. - IT HAS BEEN LOVELY EVER SINCE. - HE LIVES BETTER THAN ME THAN HE - DID WITH HIM. - I'M NOT ASHAMED OF HIM. - I DON'T GO NOWHERE THAT HE - CANNOT GO. - CAREGIVING IS A CALLING. - YOU HAVE TO WANT TO HELP - SOMEBODY. - YOU HAVE TO LOOK BEYOND - YOURSELF, YOUR PROBLEMS, YOUR - DISPOSITION IN LIFE AND SEE THAT - YOU CAN LEND AELPING HAND. - I'M IN MY SECOND CHURCH AND I'VE

- BEEN THERE FOR 16 YEARS. - IF YOU WANT TO HELP SOMEBODY, - YOU CAN START WITH THE PERSON - NEXT DOOR TO YOU. - WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. - THIS PANDEMIC HAS BROUGHT US - TOGETHER, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. - THE PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN HELP, - PLEASE HELP. - EVEN IF IT IS JUST TAKING OUT - THE TRASH TO THE CURB SO THE - TRASH MAN CAN COME AND PICK IT - UP WHEN THEY CAN'T, IT IS SIMPLE - STUFF THAT YOU CAN DO. - IT DON'T COST NOTHING BUT A - LITTLE BIT OF YOUR TIME. - IT AIN'T WHAT YOU DO FOR - YOURSELF THAT IS GOING TO LAST, - IT IS WHAT YOU DO FOR OTHERS. - MY NAME IS TERREL SCRUGGS AND - THIS IS MY BRIEF, BUT - SPECTACULAR TAKE ON HELPING - PEOPLE. - JUDY: THANK YOU, TERREL SCRUGGS, - AND WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER THAT - MESSAGE. - YOU CAN WATCH ALL OF OUR BRIEF, - BUT SPECTACULAR EPISODES AT - PBS.ORG/NEWSHOUR/BRIEF. - ONLINE RIGHT NOW, MEDICAL - HISTORIAN HOWARD MARKEL SHARES

- AN EXPERT -- EXCERPT FROM HIS - NEW BOOK, THE SECRET OF LIFE, - WHICH EXPLORES ROSALYN FRANKLIN, - THE KEY TO THE DISCOVERY OF THE - DNA DOUBLE HELIX, BUT WAS LEFT - OUT OF THE HISTORY FOR YEARS. - YOU CAN READ THAT ON OUR - WEBSITE, PBS.ORG/NEWSHOUR. - THAT IS THE NEWSHOUR FOR - TONIGHT. - I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. - JOIN US ONLINE AND AGAIN - TOMORROW EVENING. - FOR ALL OF US AT THE PBS - NEWSHOUR, THANK YOU, PLEASE STAY - SAFE, AND WE WILL SEE YOU SOON. - >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS - NEWSHOUR HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY -- - >> FOR 25 YEARS, CONSUMER - CELLULAR SKULL HAS BEEN TO - PROVIDE WIRELESS SERVICE THAT - HELPS PEOPLE COMMUNICATE AND - CONNECT. - WE OFFER A VARIETY OF NO - CONTRACT PLANS AND OUR CUSTOMER - SERVICE TEAM CAN FIND ONE THAT - FITS YOU. - TO FIND ONE, VISIT CONSUMER - CELLULAR.TV. - ♪ - >> JOHNSON & JOHNSON. - BNSF RAILWAY. - FINANCIAL SERVICES FIRM RAYMOND

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- WETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON - AND IN THE WEST AT THE WALTER - CRONKITE - SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM AT ARIZONA - STATE UNIVERSITY. - >> - Emergency Planning for Kids. - We can't predict when

- an emergency will happen. - So that's why it's important - to make a plan - with your parents. - Here are a few tips - to stay safe. - Know how to get in touch - with your family. - Write down phone numbers - for your parents, - siblings and neighbors. - Pick a place - to meet your family - if you are not together - and can't go home. - Remind your parents to pack - an emergency supply kit. - Making a plan - might feel like homework, - but it will help you - and your family stay safe - during an emergency. - (JONAS) - YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GET - TO A NEW PLACE AND RIGHT - AWAY YOU FEEL THAT - THERE'S SOMETHING - SPECIAL ABOUT IT BUT YOU - CAN'T QUITE PUT YOUR - FINGER ON WHAT IT IS? - THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I - FELT THE FIRST TIME I - VISITED THE DRIFTLESS - FELT THE FIRST TIME I - VISITED THE DRIFTLESS - REGION. - (♪ ♪ ) - (KAITLYN)

- THIS LAND IS ANCIENT - (♪ ♪ ) - (OFF CAMERA) - HOLDING ONTO THE - YELLOW. - ALRIGHT, - THERE'S THE CAMERA. - AND HERE'S YOUR SAFETY. - (JONAS) - THIS IS ME. - MY NAME IS JONAS - STENSTROM AND I'M FROM - SWEDEN BUT RIGHT NOW I'M