Non Fiction Television; 301; A Lady Named Baybie

- Transcript
Oh. To live.
And work. God. Bless. You. We've been singing together for over forty six years and we've loved every minute of it. We can sing about four hours straight not sing the same song. We
used to go to different camp meetings and church services. And if I heard a pretty song I'd come up with my slate stylus. But we wrote braille with I would say please please we can't read it out of the song Good to know if we don't have it in Braille as it's very urgent it's very important. I might never see you again in my life. Will you please dictate that song. And they do. I didn't ever want to run out of songs. I think that's one of the things that really seem entered our friendship. We still cling to that. We sit in a rocking chairs a lot and sing. I plan. To go on sing and with ginger. As long as we can provoke out a tune until we're buried in our casket. At the books.
We. Talk to each other. She can. Hear. I think
for me the minister came up. Little things. Sometimes. I just feel like we're still the two girls together
when we were 10 and in the States. Freak or meet. Right now.
Are you. Landed up here in Florida for Jesus sake and will give the film a long time.
I do hope you found us but she did say you don't want to I don't want that. You know in some ways and here I am back. I don't wanter how many times do I have to tell you I don't know. Then.
After that she confided to me in her loving way she'd say You don't belong to this family you don't the one time I was you know figuring things out and I said my step sister Mildred She's the oldest and I'm in the middle. And my sister Alan was the baby. And that's what it was. She says you are no place you don't belong here. Wow. Now I didn't tell you that to make you sorry for me. I told you that to make you glad for me. I don't have to hear that anymore. How are you. You know what God says to me all baby don't you worry you're my treasure you're my child you belong to my family you do belong you do belong. Don't ever forget that you belong to me. Why don't
you get it but not if you don't. I wish you'd let me go and I will do it anyway. Go on there. The next place to learn to talk to them is on their day. Words are very comfortable get out more. One time somebody said Whoever gave you the name of Baby I said somebody whom I love very very dearly. Meaning myself. I never was a baby I was old when I was 5. Old Morgan was 18 months old when my mother died. I don't remember at all. Well I wanted to be loved. And I just associated baby with somebody that pretty much got what they wanted in life.
About seven years ago I went to the lighthouse to take rehabilitation. I am like a stupid fool I said. My name is Nathan Hoover but I go by the name of Baby. And they said Well of course we won't be calling you baby. And it just occurred to me. If only I had given him anything else. They call me the baby. Well I just made the psychologist there to live house have grey hair. He says if we call you baby you'll lose your identity. I says if you call me baby I'll gain my identity for the first time in my life. They said you know you are not a baby. I said I should say I'm not a baby named Baby. Why you're 30 what are you 30. They said must you spell it. You just
can't imagine how preposterous that looks. So I've got to still not be a vi and all would look so horrid in Braille. And then it came to me and I put it down in Braille and looked good. Now the whole world calls me baby. The whole earth. Everyone I meet calls me baby. Some still kind of look askance at me and say Is that your real name. I say absolutely. B a y the e. A. Thank.
You. Church. Work could continue to live.
In person to get more money. If you get them done. Work because of the people and because the.
Great thank you. Card.
It. Was. One. Oh I'm. Sorry. What. Is your point. Thank you.
Why of course not. He's performing like anyone who's not making money they're putting their souls into their work. A young lady not just keep up the good work. Thank you. You know when I hear rants and read to me this is just sort of. A phrase we started in for the blind. It was a very much of a contrast to the life that we were living. She was married to a Dr. George Cooper president American Medical Association. And I was married to ransom sellers very famous psychiatrist. How did you know her all that
they're thinking about. I called the future because I had hopes of some kind of a future like that. But then after I knew that there would be no children that there'd be no real satisfactory marriage. I changed that then to our game for our story. Now I should take my money. God Bless me. A. Christmas party
and we just stayed in House and the story of the story. I really don't. Say.
You. Know. So you take your. Kids. I. Really do. You. Wait. It. Out. Let. Him.
Time. She said you'll never have another child want you
near you. You know you couldn't take care of that baby. You. Took me to this maternity 16th September. And. I took it in. I never made it.
I had a game. And still do it. I'm still fertile mother. I have many children. My husband adores me. We never had a fight on earth. And we were just one first and very rich. He's a psychiatrist and he's a
very very good woman he's a minister. He treats the treat and we're doing a lot for humanity. We are very big parties and parties we go to rich people's houses. And he doesn't see anyone in the world but oh he thinks the living. And he dances with nobody but me when we go to dances and I say to him you can dance with other people this is a dance. I mean this is not my darling. I don't want to dance with one in the world. We dance through life. But.
I'm afraid I think I have. I'm trying and I thank God for your people they love to do what we have taken. I have all I guess. That is.
Quite a few dollars back through social worker came in. This was back in Wichita Kansas. And she says able to buy yourself some dolls. Yes ma'am. Thank God for my dolls. And she said well you might say Thank God for you but you know you cannot waste of money like that. I said one of the pleasures that other people have. What about the man that smoke and drink and go to movies. And I said Can I have a dollar to noble she was real noble. She cut me clear off. Yeah.
Thank you. For having children. This happened to me in 1940. Sterilised sterilised that was just living it. Should say that. Because they took me out to the county poor farm poor farms in those days and the superintendent give you an operation. Take your Panix out. And we're going to help you solve your problems. Just a ward of the state. I had no friends to do this. I just didn't.
Do the operation. The doctor came to my room. And he said. Commit adultery. I said but he was gone. When. I look back to the poor farm from the hospital. And she said you've got hysterectomy what in the world. It sounds incredible. But when you're just a tiny little world with nobody inhabiting it hardly but yourself. And a lot of people that just know you're there. And then later on became engaged to be married. I said I'm going to be married to a man. Just for the record. I said exactly what did
you do to me. Here in your office. What did you do to me. And he just laughed just laughed for about four minutes. He said everything. I ever get married. She wouldn't. Try to make a marriage but we had a terrible time with him. You know there just wasn't anything left. It. Came right out of. Her. Are you
scared of her new girl. I like to. Oh. I'm sure. Lord thank You Lord. This
is the world. You are. He wants me we want him. Yeah. All right. This is. Very
dear sweet sweet and awake. What. A GOAL. She could make a better one. Lol. You can see. Darling I'm sorry you can't charge. I want to take when I get up out of bed. I want to take you to Rose land.
Oh. Better. Yeah but we're going to have a. And ours because they always get the perfect step. And did you talk. Henri. Oh. Thank you very much.
It was. Great. Thank.
You. For. The plan to come here live. I had been trying to read where people could go to church and feel welcome and we heard of this organization for the blind in one. We thought that we could see what they were doing in New York and we take it back to Kansas and organize and exhilarate. We came in 1054 and we've been here ever since. We pitched our way to New York. You know we go into the town
and the big city. So we got to New York doored. I love the city. People and people enjoy them in Kansas. We were just you know. Oh. Yes.
This is. True. Like.
When we heard it back in Kansas that night we heard it in that trailer and cheered and. Yelled in the early yeah. Never forget. And there I was dancing.
He said. It's a woman. Having fun she said. We still get people on the street and I knew what she was referring to these people have to have a good time. World is full of handicapped people. That doesn't have to be really. I'm just as happy as a good chance. She said. What if you were. There somebody here that's very much in love with and that's me.
I'm looking after baby who's. Polling is the last thing I'm going to do. This is open to the public and I'm a human being and I'm not stupid. I have nothing contagious nothing that's going to rub off on anyone else except a little happiness. Old. Charlie said. Good for you baby. She's a lovely dancer. I love to dance with her. And you're going on your blue shirt right now blue shirt girl are the very best ever had. Been. Warmly Amanda. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Will.
Will. I hate the shit outta him to his. Blue. Did I hear. You. Yeah hey. Hey hey. Hear hear. Chicago dinner.
Yeah. Yeah yeah. We did. You. Know my for me. When me you remember when. Again. I wanted to get up. And write.
- Series
- Non Fiction Television
- Episode Number
- 301
- Episode
- A Lady Named Baybie
- Producing Organization
- Thirteen WNET
- Contributing Organization
- Thirteen WNET (New York, New York)
- AAPB ID
- cpb-aacip/75-05s7h4z0
- Public Broadcasting Service Program NOLA
- NFTV 000201
- Public Broadcasting Service Series NOLA
- LNBB 000000
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- Description
- Description
- The third-season premiere of this series offers an hour documentary, produced by Martha Sandlin, exploring the unconventional lives of Baybie Hoover and Virginia Brown, two blind friends and street-singing partners for 50 years.
- Broadcast Date
- 1980-06-02
- Asset type
- Episode
- Topics
- Music
- Media type
- Moving Image
- Duration
- 00:57:17
- Credits
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Producing Organization: Thirteen WNET
- AAPB Contributor Holdings
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Thirteen - New York Public Media (WNET)
Identifier: wnet_aacip_3281 (WNET Archive)
Format: U-matic
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- Citations
- Chicago: “Non Fiction Television; 301; A Lady Named Baybie,” 1980-06-02, Thirteen WNET, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed May 9, 2025, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-75-05s7h4z0.
- MLA: “Non Fiction Television; 301; A Lady Named Baybie.” 1980-06-02. Thirteen WNET, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. May 9, 2025. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-75-05s7h4z0>.
- APA: Non Fiction Television; 301; A Lady Named Baybie. Boston, MA: Thirteen WNET, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-75-05s7h4z0