International Animation Festival 207 / Louise Lo Audition Tape

This program is funded by public television stations. The Ford Foundation and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Well. You. See. You. Can. See. Hello I'm Jim Marsh and I want to welcome you to the International Animation

Festival the PBS showcase the very best animated films from all around the world. This time we have two distinguished films. We have a phone from America with the voice and music of Dizzy Gillespie and that won an Academy Award for the best animated film of its year. But first we have one of the finest films ever to come out of the famous Yugoslavian Zagreb studios. Yugoslavia is one of those Eastern European countries that's being shocked again and again over the centuries by invading armies and changing governments. It's developed a sense of humor and a bittersweet philosophy evident in many of its films but especially in this one which was made by a former newspaper cartoonist called Delko drop each drop which is interested in exploring what life is really like. Drumkit is correct. That is nothing short of desperate nowadays in a mad sort of way. Very funny you will understand what I mean when you

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over the cartoon world. They met. Rather appropriately when rocking on a sex education film. John Hopley was already well known as the director of Mr Magoo shorts the old studios. I joined him. They went out on their own and since then they've developed a special style all their own which is based on an improvised conversation a conversation with the voices of Dizzy Gillespie and George Matthews is on the subject of accidents and nuclear disaster. It's called the whole it seems even more timely and important today than it did in 1962 the year that won Academy Award. Winners walking down the river. Just.

Imagine you my Americans supplementation and rock in the cradle. Show me I owe you my life is mine and none of your own. Here we are. And. You have insurance right. Yeah sure. OK. Let me tell you something. I played a trick on my wife. I went to the Wesley sea and I paid for see if I should die. My wife's going to be rich right. So I'm I'm here. Should I go. So if I should. Well every anniversary and every day my wife won't get a telegram from

me saying you know ma'am I'm gone but the way she should if she speaks with the rest of you except for maybe 20 years afterwards that she'd be showing up with her boyfriend spending my money when I was going to write the story the telegrams are already written but they will come and they will come every year every year. I'm washing the dishes one day and all of a sudden bam I drop a glass. You don't my wife says to me she say you mentioned about that glass that you had a glass and you'll have the time. Your mind was gone. I say I was thinking about what I was doing. You know what it was. What was it. Grease on the glass it made it fall out of me. You know you broke the glass. You didn't want to do the dishes in the first place. Yeah cause the thing to happen.

Suppose suppose suppose that sand would fall down on your head and your head. You know the government is to limit how much money we the government is losing. Why why why do you say we the government is the problem. What is it. What does the Constitution say. We the people of United States. Am I considered We are the people of us. Am I considered a citizen. Look I mean if you don't have a certificate blah blah. Am I considered a citizen. We. Who pays the president. The driver's license to get a driver's license. Do I look like I would have a driver's license too. Kind of Bensen do you do that to regular ballroom dancing.

I do Foxtrot. Well I'm very good at waltzers. Do you know that St. Bernard's was ah ha. No I don't know that was what kind of wants is our last word on Roth let him find his new saint who is St. Bernard's was St. Bernard and he's a foreigner Saint Bernard. What do you give me no fire in namesake this late. S. S. S. is one place he's a foreigner naturally is. Is he here. Cause he ain't here he stay was here. Me right here on Third Avenue you know we never will see. We have no saints over here right now all dead. That's why the Saints in St. Bernard St. Bernard was the St. Bernard's was everybody. They go boom boom boom boom boom boom.

Time to stop there. Yeah. And then they start again. Doom doom doom doom doom doom down. Yeah. That makes it a firing dance and same thing. So this makes it fun. Take a look at it all my. You know that could come not in this whole thing could you ain't even looking at it. I'm looking at it with another eye. Well you know accidents happen accidents happen because somebody wants them to happen. Aw come on. Come on that guy statistics. It was an hour ago right here in the news but you want me to show you that this is 99 percent of people will get hurt in accidents. I tried to get hit or COME ON COME ON THAT doesn't know what he's talking. What do you mean he doesn't know what he doesn't know what he's talking

about. That's the only way an accident. You mean to say if I go over there and walk across the street and I get run over and live my that if I can get run over lack of food. You've got some reason. What are you crossing the street for. Why not just stay on the sidewalk. That means you got an idea in the head you want to get right. You mean to say now you take you know we've got all these radar screen around us right. Yeah we got a early warning saying I'll bring you up here in Alaska. Head over in Canada. That's right everything we've got same to tell us when these things come over all the old radar equipment that we have reasons of dollars worth of zillions of dollars. Go ahead. I don't know how much you call it I'll give you that right now. Suppose I honestly I was reading in the paper the other day where where a piece of mine fell off. Yeah and that stuff doesn't come off. The thing is just keep jumping off of the earth and off the phone and off. Well I heard other things coming from up above where I am coming off the right.

OK. Now we have a system we have a system with that with that airplane with all these all these nuclear weapons and things at them. Suppose now this is I suppose a big piece with getting out of a Venus. You mean the planet Venus Venus we run a time like the one with all that's been up a lot you know. Yeah I know what you mean. You know Venus has already found him on someplace. So there's a piece of Venus getting up though. And they think just one of them planes coming over from over and it's a continental ballistic missiles. I see that. Now that's why I am perfectly accident from happening. You proved my point by telling me that. No no no no no I'm on the I'm not. But wait a while. That's the whole thing about the radar. So they see this thing coming down right. Yeah. So they got a warning that they see the thing coming and they got it on the radio tower. They don't take out the whole thing.

They watch it and then all of a sudden they're going to know which one is the boat is too late for all the drops and it's too late then. But it's going to burn up before it hits the fan. They think that something else they don't know is a piece of Venus's armor. But they couldn't. That's why they got these radar screens not that can happen they got it figured out. It could be. It could be a mistake. It could be an accident. Suppose it's a voting machine. Suppose one of those all they got all kinds of little. Aw. Suppose it blows a gasket that put an old gasket in. Suppose they don't know it. The card put it put a thing gasket blown up or come on. So those machines can go wrong. They cut their knees and plays with the A-bomb and started towards Russia. That's a blow some I suppose some fool the way to push a button. But did they go. It was on the way. But did they go.

Because they tell you you're proving my argument everything you say proves my error on the way they want to wait they when they came back. Suppose they didn't come back. The only reason it wasn't go they didn't. The only reason they wouldn't come back is if they were sending something because they got it figured out it's a scientific thing these neuroscientific things I'm fallible is plain wrong with you. You can control. That's impossible. It's impossible. Everything's going to happen. I'm going to get hit on the head with this thing up there. They're going to drop a bomb. I got three kids to think about and I know my kids in fact I'm moving from New York. So are you going to move to. I don't to move out near where the

making news. You mean in the desert. Yeah I figured the first place is going to drop something and drop it. We're probably going to drop it with me. Yeah that does it. Do you ever read the newspaper. I read a newspaper every day is got something about somebody fixing the problem. Have you been reading about the time that we got that conference. Yeah I think the US had an agreement or something really wrong with them but they're talking a day that we we have different beliefs. We have. We have a lawyer profession. We have Dr profession. We have a disarmament profession as a profession. Those guys don't want the best job and they won't have to be able to come to some kind of agreement not to do that. They'd be out of a job and what would they do. Do they teach school. You're too dumb to teach school. You mean the guy said the design was in time to teach school. I mean I read the paper I read and read the people all the time and I look and I see where they are almost to an

agreement and I say boy I'm going to close them. And then he brings up something else that he knows that they are not. Now if I walk out in the street and walk I walk out in the street and I got a pistol in my pocket right. Minding my own business now. Now he has an accident. A guy walks by me and slaps on my foot accidentally. Now I get pissed when I wonder why you step on my foot for me. Yeah in the end the guy got the guy to say excuse me. Why do you really see me because I got a pistol in my pocket. Does that mean I'm going to take it myself. But I'm glad you want to this guy. What do you mean. But I haven't gotten. And this is a big guy. And I walked by and he stepped on my foot. Is it going to be yes. I keep walking. Thank God it yes.

I mean if you are we should scrap all the things. Why what kind of coffee you want. Right. Why do you want black up with it. Now look if you want to lose weight first thing you've got to stop drinking altogether. Have you ever thought about the hot conditions of people who are overweight and overweight. Let's roll some more. I have a heart attack that's supposed to push the button to stop them from coming and bring them back. Suppose I accidentally stumbled up those planes start over and start over. And then as is supposed to push that button to tell them to come back. Suppose you have a heart attack. He might be fat like you going to have no heart attack. He's only fat like me because I'm in great shape. This guy's going to have a heart examination. I bet you they get one of those cardiograms every day.

Out the black out. He blacked out. Why is he taking a shot from any black child from the black out of black out down here in the cold with a black dog. When you have that. Well when you have a single idea that could happen right it couldn't happen accidentally because I wasn't taking care of myself or something that I would like I may have stayed up too late. Maybe I get stoned or something. That's the only reason I. Man. You used to

run in June. Now that you don't live I'm sitting on top of you. You mean. I mean that was lovely.

We have time for two. I hope you enjoyed it. And I do hope you come back to see more films and meet Jean Marsh on the international animation festival by. Me. You. Can. Do.

It. This program was funded by public television stations. The Ford Foundation and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. I'm. Going to. Run because I love it so much I can't do without it. When I started like most women

I started because I. Had some physical goal in mind I wanted to lose my middle age spread. I turned 50 and I was quite right at the time that I didn't weigh anymore and I had to do something about it. And somebody said Jogging would help. And it certainly did. But that's not where I run now. Of course in jest I often tell people I run so that I can eat anything I like which is about true. I think the average woman can benefit a great deal from running for two reasons. One is the physical. Everyone knows it makes you feel better. A person who. Generally is not exercising feels sluggish heavy generally. In America they're constipated they've got migraine headaches. All of this sort of thing running alleviates all these physical symptoms so that's a very good thing. Another thing is the mental aspect especially for most women who have you know the stresses of home or work or sometimes both. It's very important to have a time to yourself where you can or you can relax and be alone and enjoy yourself to be alone. I don't mean not I don't mean running alone necessarily but it is important to be off and have an activity that's just yours.

I think beginners should always start by trying to go either 15 minutes or a mile whichever is the shorter distance. And in most cases unless they're already doing some exercise they should start out with a jog until they feel out of breath and then walk until they regain their breath and then jog again. And even the jogging parts should not be so fast that you can't talk. That's a very important concept you have to use the talk test or you're going too fast. You often see people dashing out hard running as fast as they can. They get totally poop. This is the wrong way to go about it and it can be dangerous. Beginners often make two mistakes one is the most important one is they don't wear the right shoes they think they're hushpuppies or tennis shoes are going to be good enough and they're not. The main thing that a beginner has to do is invest in good running shoes. The second thing that they should do is relax and enjoy it. You see a lot of beginners very tight hands clenched working hard puffing. They've had this concept that unless they run fast is not going to help them that's not true. They can run at a nice comfortable pace. I think women are running more now because for the first time in the 70s they have gotten the idea that they

should do it and that they can do it. I think in the past women always considered the weaker sex and running was not considered a sport for women. There was very little track and field for women and no road running. And in the first early years in the late 60s and early 70s it was rare to see a woman on the roads. But as more and more women saw other women out there who are older than they were or fatter they were than they were or even slower than they were they'd say well she can do it I can do it. I started running four years ago at the age of 56 through a friend of mine who convinced me that she wanted to get back to running because she felt so well was she was doing it. And I said to her What do you do that for. If I did then at my age I'd drop dead of a heart attack. And so she finally did convince me to get me out to still lay. And I started very slowly and I thought I'd never do this. So I just kept at it and finally I can complete a half a mile. Within two months I was up to a mile. I really got to like it. The reason why I started on it was curiosity. I have my single my friends

running and seeing how they look how good they feel. And I decided that's maybe something I should start doing it. And that's how I ever they started running curiosity in the beginning only ran once in a while like one track twice a week and my body felt some kind of tingling and my face gets red and I really felt good. I think it's the most enjoyable sport that I have done since I've. Do other sports too. It's something I feel I get most out of it and I get in touch with myself without having all the equipments around me for doing and that type of sport. When I run I feel that the tiredness goes away and you pick up the fresh air the outside and you look at the trees and not the bird. And you really become much more alert when you do the physical exercise and the running does it very well.

I think that some people consider running a grueling sport because they associate it with the kind of track runners that have been the only form of the sport until recently where you have to run all out for a quarter mile or something which is very grueling it's probably the hardest thing there is a grueling quarter mile half mile per mile it's terribly hard. But the kind of running that I'm talking about is the more gentle kind of running where you go long distances at an easy pace. Easy enough to breathe. Well it's. When you get into racing then you have a thing where you're confronting something you're confronting either other people in competition or yourself your previous times what a concept what you can do and you're testing yourself against your limits in a race for that reason it's a very exciting kind of space to the running. Program. And in my own case and a lot of my friends that's the only time we run fast or hard you do have to push in a race. There's a great debate about whether women can run as fast as men. Or as far their records for speed are generally behind those of men. This is especially the case in shorter events because they are very muscle dependent on the other hand

recently it's becoming quite clear that women have a certain natural advantage in endurance races distances like the marathon which is 26 miles or even longer. And in these races the women's greater staying power and. Probably their ability to burn fat and better seems to enable them to carry on at a fairly fast pace longer than the men. So we may even see cases where they'll actually be running faster. You see when women start running a tremendous increase in self-confidence because suddenly they're doing something that they haven't told all their lives they couldn't do which they themselves thought they couldn't do. And it's really a wonderful thing for a woman to run a mile the first time I did it I was amazed. I didn't think it was possible when I ran three miles that it was superhuman. And so you see women getting out there suddenly they're doing superhuman things and they become more assertive more sparkly more enthusiastic and always as a result. Our purpose at Parkhurst is to start getting people out

of the indoors and enjoying the outdoor spaces that are available to them in the parks in the cities or schools in the community all around. And the Packhorse provides an excellent tool for people just starting or people who are well into their exercise program because it's tailored to your own needs you do it at your own pace. It consists of 18 exercise stations spaced around the park. There's in each exercise station there's a sign that describes the exercise. And then in some cases an apparatus so you can do an actual exercise on on the on the park course. So you start off slowly walking between stations doing some warm up exercises then you start jogging doing some more strenuous exercises in the end you cool down once again and walk between the stations. People use pot of course for a lot of different reasons for weight loss. It's a great way to burn those extra calories. That's the only way you're going to lose weight if you burn more than you take in a lot of people who are using it for spot reducing there's several exercises that are good for building the upper body as well as firming those thighs and saddlebag areas so different people use different things for building your cardiovascular

system as well as weight loss. The vibe was in the middle of the septs series and the exercise stations the bulbar is used for muscle tone and coordination mainly deals with the upper body strength as well as how agile you are how catlike you can jump up over the bar. But it also deals a lot with your upper body and how you're able to really lift yourself over the bar. The toe touches it is just another way of strengthening the muscles in your lower back and hamstring and we're trying to keep people loose while they're using the park horse and people have a tendency to tighten up while they're running or doing any kind of exercise program. So it's just a way to loosen up those muscles. The exercises we've devised have been put together by the National Athletic Health Institute and they're in a particular order for a specific reason and that's what the doctors have done. And by putting them the warm up exercises and then the more strenuous exercises and then the cool down the set up is considered a pretty strenuous exercise because you are using all your muscles in your stomach as well as your lower back. So it's it's put in the center of all the workouts.

The bars are for your developing your upper body. It's one of the last stations in the sequence of events and we're having people cool down and sort of gradually walk. But it does address the problem of weak upper arms and chest and stuff for both ladies and men. So it's just another cool down exercise is to build the upper body the balance beam allows people to sort of readjust after their exercise program. We found that if people have done the exercises a little bit too hard and push themselves too much they'll find this out because they won't be able to sort of center themselves and get back to where they started off from a few really overdone and as far as your muscles go they'll be really quivering quaking and you won't really be able to do go on the balance beam as it's been prescribed. So it's just a way to sort of check yourself out. Get back to normal and cool down after the exercise program. We recommend a par course that for the beginner you don't exercise more often than every other day. If you're already exercising everyday great. Most everybody would like to get to that spot but

because you're exercising maybe new muscles that you haven't been using in several years you're going to anybody's going to feel some soreness and you need a period of rest in between working your muscles out to give them a chance to recover and to rebuild and so the next day you can add onto your exercise program I maybe doing it just a little bit harder a little bit longer and your muscles will build themselves and get stronger in the process. I recommend it to be use a couple of times a week just so your muscles don't deteriorate if you tend to use it maybe just once a week. That will not really necessarily improve your muscular endurance at all. It can be incorporated into an existing program maybe doing the park course two or three times a week and running the other days just alone or swimming or whatever. But what you need to remember is that you need to have some consistency in your exercise program you can expect it to work miracles just by using it once a week. Packhorse came to the United States in 1973. A man named Pete stocker was in Europe and 72 saw the system loved it and knew that the Americans would also love it. And he donated to the first

park course here in 1973 and since then we've just had phenomenal response from all parts of the country and now there's 125 across the United States. The purpose of course is to show people that exercise doesn't have to be drudgery and boring. You can go out to the park and you can meet your friends and you can see all sorts of people and have a good time on the park or circuit itself and it's just a lot of people it's just a first step in getting involved in a regular exercise program that they will carry on forever in their lifestyle. You would pack a corporation in what. Was basically the way flexitime was set up. Employees can alter their schedule each day of the week and it's set up so that we have an arrival time

in which you might call leaving time and people can come any time between 6:30 and 8:30 during the winter months and during the summer we extend it so it starts at 6 to 8 30. Then they work their eight hours plus whatever they take for lunch a half hour to an hour and go home anytime between say 2 and 5 or 5:30. By the time I actually started in our plants in Germany in 1967 and that was about the same time that a lot of other companies over in Europe were starting flexi time. But we brought it to the U.S. in 1971. We tried it as a pilot back in Massachusetts so our division there during the summer months in the summer we have a lot of people that come in at 6 o'clock so that they can leave by 2:30 to be off with the family or just to enjoy the afternoon. And then we have people that come as late as 8:30 because they like to sleep in in the morning. I feel probably the biggest asset that flex time provides for our people is that it allows them to control their own day and they can come to work when they want to be at work and it still gives them time to do other things like go to doctor's appointments dentist

appointments or be home with the kids after school provides them with really just more time in their day to accomplish more. When I first started here we were on Standard Time 7:30 therefore at the time I had small children and so I had to get him out of bed by 6 o'clock Dr now the setters and then put him back in bed there because they were quite young at the time. And then of course the traffic was really heavy too. I don't like the traffic. You know when I leave early in the morning I have time to sort out my day because the traffic isn't crowded. And as I drive to work I'm mentally thinking that what I'm going to do for the day if there's a lot of traffic I can't do that I have to concentrate on you know the cars and what have you. So it is much better if there is less traffic and you're driving home you've had a hard day already. And if the traffic is really heavy and it wears you down then by the time you get home there is a very bad time does help me on the job because it gives me more time to be more productive first

thing in the morning. And it gives me more time to be with my family in the afternoons. I usually try to fit them in between six and seven. I'm really productive first thing in the morning. And then after that I kind of lose my steam. So I like to get an EARLY START. I usually try to get in at a certain hour. But if you wake up late are that wake up and there's a flat tire or something. You don't panic because you're going to be late to work that way. So it's much better. There was one time when my son had a problem at school and school not being able to start till the principals didn't get there till about seven or eight. I couldn't take care of the situation until you know that time. So therefore I didn't get to work till about 8:30. So being able to come in within that window frame made it just perfect. People like to be able to feel a little bit of independence even within their jobs if they can come in. You know whenever the time is more to their

lifestyle. One of the biggest advantages is that we have better coverage in all of our departments over a longer period of time. We have people coming as early as six and people staying until 5:00 or 5:30 instead of being here just eight hours a day. We have coverage as much as 11 or even 12 hours a day. And especially in my gum or marketing department where we need to contact people throughout the U.S. and we're on a different time schedule. We have more time to call customers or for customers to call us back and forth across the US. Initially there were a few concerns about how flexi time would actually work. One of them was that by spreading out our data that we had people here over an extended period of time our supervisors felt that we had expanded their responsibilities in order to really supervise people they would have to be here 11 or 12 hours. What we did in many cases we set up what we call a lead position. So we had people who work with our supervisors and share some of the supervisory load and they alter their schedules so that one comes in early and one comes in

later and that solves the problem of being here all day long with the employees because it's all that provides a training opportunity for another person in the area. In general we found that tardiness is almost non-existent by having two and a half hours in which to get to work. It's pretty hard to be late. Also we found that absenteeism and sick leave has tended to go down because before when we didn't have flexitime if somebody was running late and just didn't get going in the morning sometimes they would call in sick or be absent for the day because they were concerned about being late to work. So having a little extra time they can usually get things accomplished and get going and still get here and then put in an eight hour day. We don't have any kind of time clocks or clock cards that we keep everybody's really on an honor system in terms of their time. And I'm sure you could find somebody that's possibly abusing the system but I feel in general that everybody really works as a team in their areas and it takes everybody being here and putting in their full time to get the job done.

Loosens an employee up they're able to you know that on a trust them and because of that you know is it motivates what they I think you are able to produce more and they feel like they're free and you know you don't have people breathing down your neck saying hey did you get here at 9:00 to 5:00. You know we don't have bills at five o'clock till dawn us to leave with five bills and not a clock to sit down. So I think it's good relax for more so I think you know we'll be able to get in at 6:30 and leave but sorry I'm a little pick up the activities in the afternoon. And I'd like baseball basketball during the summers. Stormily softball coach Bobby Sox softball. And mainly by boys boys and girls certain age groups and I've been

coaching for three years and we're able to get to practices early. Because of the time I'll be able to get off at 3. I get there for 4:30 rebel hold the practices earlier so they would be able go home have dinner and I would be able to go play in the other leagues which I plan when I leave at 3:00. There's very little traffic on the road and you don't have to fight the traffic you know I guess the biggest biggest thing is the traffic. You know you get tired when you leave work. And you don't have to fight the traffic go home and relax and go do something else. But if you have to leave at 5:00 or even after 5:00 you you like to drive for an hour. Get your head against the wall. Yes. So I think with the flexible time thing that enables an early March gives once more relaxation than anything they're not they're in a rush to do everything they can to plan their schedule and plan their

work around around the rest of the day. We surveyed our employees a couple years ago after flexi time and just started to see what they thought and people were very very positive about the program and felt that it really allowed them a lot more independence and freedom and they got more out of their job and out of their home life. You do have a standard set of what we call core hours but I know there are other companies that do have different types of flexitime programs where people can come 10 hours one day and maybe six hours the next day. And their objective is more to work 40 hours in a week whereas ours is to have people work eight hours a day fluctuate which every eight hours they want to work. I think in general programs like flexitime will continue throughout industry. It's been a big benefit to our employees. I think it can also be a benefit to the local community and to society in terms of helping with transportation problems traffic jams on the freeways local community transportation. And also allows people some more time to participate in outside activities which can benefit the local area.

So I think it's definitely a benefit that will continue. The woman's bank is a bank that is formed started by a woman. Whose board of directors is predominantly women and that board of directors sets the policy for the bank women setting policy for a bank for the first time. And who do something special for women. So we do a lot for women in counseling. And in our brown bag seminars where we touch on how to establish credit how to go about making an automobile loan. And if you have poor credit how to correct that then our evening seminars which are much more in-depth and they go into why

a single woman needs insurance on the stock market and investing in the real estate market. Subjects that as says. Even. Whether you should be joint tenants as opposed to community property all matters pertaining to finance. It's a small bank. You get a lot of personal professional career. I found that they have. Been very very good to me. They call me by my first name. It's it's not impersonal at all. And I think I wasn't. Thinking more about it being a woman's bank. But I was. Thinking about the fact that they did. Have a lot of like Brownback seminars different things to educate the woman. They educated me and shocking really truly shocking following. Their car buying handbook is excellent and taught me to take into consideration inflation the factor of purchasing a car on time and bring inflation in is a factor we're. Paying all cash. And extending payments.

And. You know not totally extending yourself but making sense into where I was my tax bracket and. All that. And that was very important. They will sit down with you on a one to one basis and try to work things out. They'll get you on a budget. They'll help you start a savings account and make it stick to it. And I think that's very important. More and more men are coming to our brown bag seminars and our evenings seminars and we're finding that especially the younger man has needed the same type of financial information as the young woman. He hasn't yet reached the stage where he lunches with his banker or his insurance broker or his real estate agent. And so he has need of this type of information as well as the one and then. I think in today's world women have complete control over their financial destiny if they choose to exercise it. Some of the problems are getting the word out to the women that they do have this privilege now that the government is saying that you get equal opportunity and credit that the

state laws are changing that you can ask for credit in your own name and of course in the states that have community property if you are not working if you are still tending the home you can get the credit there. Now 50 percent of the income of your husband. I think that the legislation passed for credit and women are really probably all that are necessary it's getting those laws implemented getting the various financial institutions to do their part and saying that these laws are fulfilled. But it's the old stereotype of the woman who goes into to get credit and finds that the man really wonders Is she going to get cracking or is she going to quit her job and become a housewife again. Those things really they're not valid questions anymore. A woman who is earning money should be able to get credit.

And the way she's handling her. I. Do fairly well and I find that a lot of men question you know you're really doing this. Well I went to I need a co-signer which was ridiculous. And the women's bag took me on what I was doing on my experience and gave me the first blush that. I initially when I came up here a few years ago I was new in the area. Establishing that all over again was really a hard job. It took several years and you know bringing in financial statements and your tax returns and showing your improvement and having that just like fight for this is where I am all the time. And when I brought the women's back. They believe me. You know I was there in black and white. And I saw it and I could see that I was growing. And I was making a percentage increase every year. And they didn't question it. And they also didn't question. Changing jobs. You know they knew it was a good thing for me to do. And they gave me a place for that. Another bank might give you a minus because you didn't see an aerial on. The top until a few years ago women really couldn't get a loan on their own name unless they were extremely well fixed financially. They needed a

co-signer a man women have had. A sort of a leverage put on them even in the job market. They were mostly clerical workers. They weren't up in the higher echelons of business. That's changing now. The numbers of women entering the workforce on a daily basis is tremendous. We're. 40 about 47 percent of the total workforce now by the year 2000 will be well over 50 percent of the total workforce in the United States. So their needs are changing and they need to know how to take care of their money what to do with their earnings. And just a vast difference from 25 or 30 years ago when it was the exception for the woman to leave the home and work. We've seen a tremendous response for. Starting their own businesses women who have worked out of their homes maybe they've been typing at home.

Maybe they've been doing some sort of hand work. They're trying to get into storefronts and start their own businesses. And we've been able fortunately to help quite a number of them got started here. Also they're very interested in real estate. They feel that if they're earning a good salary they'd like that equity in a home as opposed to. An apartment. So this single woman is looking at real estate. Not so much as an investment as to purchase a home she encounters very special problem is number one she's probably not earning as much as a man in her same capacity job capacity. Number two what she can afford is usually in a borderline area which means that she's not feeling too safe about that area and she lives alone. Most of those type homes need a lot of remodeling work. We've tried to encourage women to go into condominiums. If they. Do well in a condominium

and meet their payments and so forth then they can upgrade into a home at a later time. Even mobile home. Parks we've found that this is a very good. Investment for a single woman. They feel safe in them. They're very attractive. They can buy a mobile home in 24 to $30000 category that serves their purposes very well. I think every major bank in the country has seen the handwriting on the wall. I think they're all doing their utmost to to encourage women as customers to do what they can for them. It just takes a larger bank a little longer to implement these new laws than it does a small bank that was started to be sure these laws were implemented. My dissatisfaction with other banks. Has been that. The red tape machine. Has been. Really. Quite prominent. When I needed loans in the past. I've had to go. From one channel to the next now to

the next at the women's bank when I needed an answer. I had an answer in two hours. I'm in the recycling lumber we buy lumber all over the state. And I knew this line of credit in order to keep my business out. There. It was a woman's bank or any other bank I decided to go with and the deal was right for me. I think at a later date I'm beginning to grow and I hope that the bank can now grow with me and. Will be all right to go