A Word on Words; 2447; Waylon Jennings, Part 2

so you know once again welcome to word on words once more we're back with the man and so whale and waylon jennings welcome back two words good to be here good to talk about your book whale an autobiography i which he wrote with the clinic at nine for those who watched the last week we went through that very tough childhood read trace your tracks out got that really left a psychological cotton and i went off to make your fame and fortune and music along the way you walked up the fortunes abroad those are always made in fact we went through you for marriage is in and the one now his last and there you have a solar celebration with jesse the one for jesse i said last week that most fascinating

aspects of this book inside through tragedy and crown from wayland jennings told in his own words and aside from the photographs the family album collection of photographs tell your past your relatives and your friends and contemporaries and in country music beyond that are the funny funny stories and i thought just for our audience we might and i just wish i were fewer loaded it will taste of a third of the zest of this book is about now we talked about your grandmother saying nasty a nasty when you talk about girls then you found their plans on stage you make that contact was some woman in the audience and it was very clear what she on a mine and there was not going to fire you a sole voice in this girl whatever but when stuart book owned them come backstage

said when you get up there sure there's a girl right in front row but four seats but she used fuel and sure enough pointed out there so i had just come into borscht and there was a look in her and had his own voice at the radisson so our primal state investigation that the promoters may if you only play for nothing you know in a way and the weather seemed at the time to sell a wonderful trade around the porch again and she says and as you come over and ride and there was an award and so she said i won't talk to do it and nobody will let me keep only around for most of world war ii and it's about her husband and i think that's a legal she came around and waste us to

dissuade the man my mind will man roster the amounts of the real problem for the nation you know what i just leapt one was so she was a blonde hair knot took her home and you know what mrs larger chaser she knows she has a lead dual use a long time she was terrifying about it but when you drop her naked take that he simply doing and i said well well to this day what to do just are inherently i'm out here were used the word success and so he said well let me answer well if voters like that and she was only ever really is it really is that you think you are it's done only of stone if they stand up to the people to a turnaround in a few signs of research on tour and if you walked out on a giant

time we get around the core of sycamore world i'm not that in years later when la gallina club of wood but there's at the girl and i said she say you'll remember me do you know six years i've been going to be bigger than the eye when romans ever get over there is a big dead calm and beguiling well then there's the story of the year often but not always friend from you having a great to have a great relationship with a minute within a period when you very very close here and you've back and his lincoln oh when your house you joe baca a brand new england

and i had this old cadillac do fervor with so when they're arrested pombo i said the debut of a great new the top official judy awesome con pollo alito is airborne when you're really well you're all of the best releases your mother's for years although this back in ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha up in all that this was a movie of worries dollars you know you talk about the influence of blues on country music and then you're bringing in the rural south environment where low racism but in the back in my new ones that the blues was

black music and as the place where you ask the question maybe of your father was very own day what happens of like music when you ever come together they did come together the sheer good ear and you know i've always believed it's a man saying in the saint's all about the good the bad germs wanted got one and launch and i've always i've always thought that was just a bigger part in our cause it's the sing along choruses and everything and love blues music i listen to the district to come in to jimmy reed i don't want more inspiration very much inspiration and hymns and illusion and they are and i should add that want to have a beer and out i grew up along without religion work with work with the eu with the black kids something that they ran alongside everybody knew

and the thing was i was not intentionally racially prejudiced but it's something that i grew up around and now even to this day you know i have to fight that there's one i think that when i see someone i don't think new rules for you and i and i hate that i hate that there was show the french that there was a death which you know there was that really talked that now more about my mother and abandonment and all over there just too much for mama can't use that and she didn't really she was just same way investors that are hateful thing about being arranged so does it possibly last week that a great virtue must focus its candor and then

your euro coins and candor very simply stated one way the music but liking goes with a cane you know in the village there was a great new candidate he wrote there in the middle of the boom years rock n roll we've won a great day was the first heard it i was one long after so much sediment that driving to go to work fourteen regular moratorium on them probably would be a thirty percent hillbilly hit parade on the radio station and in our sorrow mom and that would write a must and family i had never felt in that music will bill but based in scotland guitar militias she floated atop and that exactly what i was thinking about

from what i'm never found it but then some close to play with them and move them talking and that issue at that time that is outback known that music before that came along they didn't worry about the feel the rhythm a radio like a particular record and it could double the tempo was the wayward about defending completely own country music the defendant on the site and they're so listen here to show that we're both chair of the un the year phenomenal success you've heard in many ways has been based on your own understanding of who you were and what you want to be when you why you music to be an official as we haven't had a fight to get that done for yourself and we recount one instance we fought to get

done for willie nelson but that but it's it seems to me that it's true of the grey stars in country music and some of those whom you interacted with johnny cash kris kristofferson they were individualistic and it was their own style they insisted on and while there were a group of you are known as the arts and for it became known to go back to the highway in every case it was an individualistic whether we talking about cash christofferson a willy or you have tom t hall talk a little bit about about about that need for the full full professional for me in atlanta to be as he or she sees himself or herself as a post away and the producers

may may seem you know gotten a lonely room for teachers and i worked was you know when i got the first deal that just said that i could produce my own records you needed only a tradition of believing we need everybody so what i always wanted to do i give him control drilling music to me you can heard my thing was morally injured to get in a lot of think it's a lot more money when it doesn't come around one issue you know when i will have any sense or another people are doing it activists and just to live that way and it's not the problem now laudanum appoint a new thing and i am a sensitive human being and one a rather solemn music and jay was close ally at the other it and that's where john the voice chris grossman will give credit where

it has a hashtag he was racing ever happened this time he came in here and everybody was writing these cattle rachel yet runners for the hit from scratch right and great love songs and oliver by mail from the rear to work at the top and for church of those shows you just threw me for of everyone wants to you know it wasn't you talk about in there is is the way the country attended share in writing music you tell about being in her land loss cafe maybe one night in benefits is our land come across a landmark late tom p always and there you were struggling with the weather with a versus austerity as an assault he sat down he helped you with a gun outlet in simian ten years assad bit that was a strange thing we're not so it works do you normally like abortion for iran and some of you that's the way we work that

interaction the nashville scene serves the purposes of god and it really is your writing was somebody is formed it now roger miller just a one time chief why don't you write very much with other people he said on the top rack think you know it and that's the way he was very rare that one of your youth i know it we start work and thickened some songs from ten to two hundred ships fueled consumption dr michel but he was so productive and body removal you know you talk about the downside to a new book and a bit of my problems with the with the companies i'm not a great relationship with chet atkins but at the church move down that chief executive role are many moved into it and turn your brothers sunday days of the routine work very well know no problem for tree publishing

and i knew i'd read about those very very candidly and part of what you talk about they're not just your own creative juices not being able to work when you're in that environment when you're dealing with business we would also you had a sense that they have that you get ripped off and your family went through a series of lawsuits to get year what you thought was your rightful share money you also write very candidly about the fact that you have the drugs deals mostly but later cocaine during that that whole period when and how much of the problem in dealing with other people and how much did the drugs have to do that you know there's no way that charities that you're right and wrong ride on and they will approach of those a minimum it that the thing was it

and it caused problems partially but with we mint chip in the swing me and some people an unfortunate that was certainly richer regret to encourage a table thing about it i had an uncanny ability to be right on and keep and yeah launched a job or you're no insignia and i have the constitution of tin man the ship of asian match and we need to know it i just wish for rich girl but as far as with the record which i hate to say this but it's still that way this is a wonderful wonderful visit to be illusory songs and playing guitar or when you come to this town and they say we love you we'll take care of you for having me that's so wrong so you're going to start

paying a rider always liked seventy five percent of what he has coming whole ring and reserve fifty percent and when you see when you all left and it shows that they have only played in fifty percent but then you have to sue and they'll settle with ian give you fifty percent of that they are and then they want such control over the music somewhere in the background you know like it with the producer nomination of the use of the publishing companies and i really feel sorry for the people of the business now you know i'm in the young young artist and what they have to go through well you do say that that had problems are seeing a broad korea from probably hear here or a booking agent luckier or more audio russians seem to be of a person who was sort of a financial wiz from new york who help to the un help willie nelson

and was having great financial problems as you were good all been altogether an end i'm still i think i wanna know you went through that period where you go and then you became an outlaw on the highwaymen indyk gannett and everything was rolling and everything was going great you had that we had a house which was your office for your operational headquarters of their own music row in a nashville and in music city and and then suddenly found out paulson says all money guns and downloads and that you know i've not just overgrown layer a ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha's i don't believe there is no mirror but it's not all right that was all muffled because of one thing out learned from a good businessman because i pay attention and wonderful people around me but i give them the

time cause you know what i would do that would come to mention at one under the czar will on a warrior will do i never checked never check nobody you know an overt and the thing was is i keep you don't care about that or should play in that was going on that shale oil in america so the things are all right no two thousand and two thousand outstanding bills someone flowers at the table those sunni over your life and it's just i'll let it go you made up the mantle you have them all by i did and yet if the vegas where you may want to have fifty thousand dollars for a week and so does not back is yalin and you said some aside every week you've got everybody pay fact that they liked him and that's really saying go and write about them and broke you're welcome do just about involvement in addition to grow to work for

one of those she came to work for me for eight days later eight years later lewis with me for about eighteen years she took the books upstairs neighbor in her apartment and i had this early the sky come in from the fbi he was a martyr and all have empathy and he came to me he says you know a lot of people in jail but shows you there's a lot of people do just that were just in there and he said he said what he would do a massive well i know what the winter you won't do me or stopping and starting place and that's what appeared that would work then i worked you know the new and then you talk about that the that a great moment a great crisis when the when the drug busting and you say that they had known about it

for a long time you talk about they the larks leone the nba the law enforcement authorities knew knew about it but theres a package that celebrity at the studio while year why euro why you're recording and and that's a wonderful story that we've really for the viewer in the book goes it shows up with you were you know you were on drugs you managed to conceal the road was sanctioned get hurt when the toilet flush couple of age and so there goes but it but you got out of that and then you decided on your own col geraghty you're straightening and i'm sure jesse rejoice with you and you did it on your own as a lot in this book about starting very early about your religious belief should talk about jesse in an unheard roles in her spiritual life and any and your own then

you then you reach that that point in the book where once more you didn't make a disclosure to shoot and not just about the fact that you'd not graduate from asking for the more important admission to learn about drugs that must have been a tough and telling moment for your ten year old boy to you know i know i was i didn't approach it you know and about that i was the only resident i remember very well though about gaza but maybe it would help somebody you are one brave thing that are so i thought i'd better to shoot rubber to be the launch till and fewer libya work on a drive keep it from a real ever be an in home care it shot up inside an intersection and one the marks or an oil spill could cost more than the issue raised a lot of

those acid you know and then huge vessel then i saw those are usually us about working in control of what you're doing i said you know you should really do a lot all time than two hours until the time that you were about portlandia show that ocean view you drink beer and the city oh i know i did ok and remember you and he did like that encompass a labrador scanned for into an immersive up and quit for a long time so a quick five years ago so the next day when maureen hoosier or from and work to live with us in his government was worried about them so she went into orange which are said to be

okay here will gervais eventually you just do bother to jesus or bad and taken drugs to a typical cup of a nine or eleven giving hope that a positive well i must say a little unsure for a reason you were in that room no yelling lauren holly was a game of chicken and raising cane and promptly you're welcome let's talk let's talk just a little bit about the business of writing a book you're like aon listen and you turn down three other collaborators before that talk about why lenny kaye no difference when they really came around you know he have very quietly very gentle and rockets at the fuel saving someone who thinks lebron things right for more moral or two and then but there was

just something about him and the way he was huge great guitar player and only works with the fetish with and the other two or the other three had just made become disgusted with a chew and apple one time and then they came and we talked and he said to me he said oh dr look in your workshop is gonna be your book is remarkable and he did you i still said no and then i got to thinking about it now poem i'm never find another partial unlimited and i wouldn't vote for now we spent almost three years tony navarrete well the number's up and up and not the west texas tribune newsroom write that login should tour that said they were to get that long term uk health

initiative every week you've got somewhere up you could play short fuse better so we blew through all of that and he he stood the test even gotten to a certain store you get to see a search tool and he writes about that and you know they did it take to him and then i did the takedown tape and notes and then it would ride in it come back to use yeah i would know it sounds so much like he will well it was it was just it really is because you know when i would more change something he never visited isn't durable know and these things it and he told me how to write a little myself you know and the no no