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that's in line to build these homes the government because both all right at an idea now from local market go and you can see and lost to it's why ousting a levee as b forty thousand people most of them from one to they have hack the residential areas the investment risk unlike some postwar america mm hmm the villages one of the fifteen channels or satellite towns built was physically the village's largely self sufficient economic a by the government since the second world war half a huge thank so long factories are much larger fire more moderate than those on the alabama lying the most advanced ideas planning an architecture that lots of at king's them a conveyor belt says that money for export you britons attend planners right now they're working on a huge new conveyor belt for russian automobile annie
business it's because the piece behind the piece the painting
he has robert legion american correspondent reporting from united kingdom britain is no fairy tale these people have been through to shattering wars and then go on up the greater part of a once great empire and lost the race for military power and they're in danger of losing the race for world markets have to adapt to new conditions that the british a change this report is going to change and to places where they didn't understand at the isle of dogs here in london where these two locations are not intended to represent all of britain nor are we going to cover all of the changes because as a search for fundamental facts by friendly what can americans from tower bridge you can see some of the hard realities of britain's postscript to empire
premier says london's back lamp oh yeah thank you first by removing provide most of the jobs that twelve thousand people live on that they also provide the island's division of the city he's a crane operator and western europe that is
do you remember that but traditionally american jobs passed down from father and son began with the medieval their due date a firm regulations protecting them and against competition by outside its well paid by today's standards employment goes up and down with the fluctuations in british fauntroy which in recent years has been an economic crisis up the export problems familiar to these men see and read that manufactured goods must be sold and shipped abroad to pay for food and raw
materials with the most important liberal opponent export import bank and wider margin the nation faces bankruptcy they've been close to it several times in the years since they gave up the empire on one of the biggest problems is the british must import fifty percent more than any other nation and much of that is unloaded on the island mm hmm many families have lived on the same street where generations of likenesses grasso former mayor of the island at seventy eight
<unk> chrysler still active in civic affairs spokesman for the island it has an old fashioned shop modern island it will discuss all the people on the island seem to have resisted change they live more or less as they did years ago why is that is there some special reason because this island is mara walk the country reach you know everybody helps one another and everybody seems to know one another's business and that's one of the reasons it's not change city law and this deal will greatly island people still living you know i'm going against the day is the time to sink so which is classic something to do with the surroundings the work but okay iran's down his jaw to somebody oh that means innovation coming and i know
well that going to keep people in nice or when you take a low low isolated the work is no coup is stopped work which also isolates the individuals to work in the dark <unk> <unk> castle suppose society it's based on working class customs is that changing at all when i should say you know working class you yourself the muscle yes i'm a class i don't think this is a thing is costner and confident it will win do you think these barriers started to break down mister i start to break down during the war the outbreak of the war when we were in trouble we sort of mourners mixed start to makes sure you know more dissonant couple of the fire suddenly true
coalition he's one of us i know van
for him and his wife their income is very small culturally the island is a feeling of motion pictures no music of a few books mr strong what is the position of the church on the island are you satisfied with the way your people respond to religion well yes many semi people because it's a very small portion of the population there are only two hundred practicing christian support a nomination that a population of about twelve thousand but it is fairly typical this country churches much in it was the doctors bajarin and laborers will
come to him most of them from factories making a religious tradition and i think a great many spiritual values and nothing else comes to take their place people tend to be spiritually and that's bound to have an effect as the population rises
we call it they were on the first evening and i make the best all thirteen pull themselves intelligence thank you only increases juvenile delinquency is increase will not as much as elsewhere lot of the young people is not everybody is on a certain issue making noises
of the city people part of china not of the industry sports what's going or perhaps even combine thoroughly with tradition and young men like jewish pool david julia called freeman of the river was that me
and when you do that when you then test organs whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa race has been held annually on the thames and so you're seventeen fifteen dollars minimum ever selected from the rises in baghdad saad so we're one of the oldest living winners of the delegate race woodward fisher his wife several about the coat several times since he wanted fifty years ago time and prosperity of major changes in the sport fisheries waistline this year is one of the few wealthy man born on the island is dotted with little education and no money now he and his wife owned several
tugboats and more than a hundred budgets isn't handled imports and exports some especially shrewd business as a kilometer away and that the national economy is to measure we hear that bridgeport dooling played live well maybe well i think right away because the job more efficiently and also to
power the condiment on about today's the wife just five days to issue of the problem that perfectly we can't sleep at night i mean the chickens don't think i do and i never meant to show me that there must be some sense of concede that we must have a trade it all in many times of years ago we used to have been a man of steel a broad issue will never see already see it wouldn't last a day of the teams he might say a lot of what may and function but that's a take we don't tell them
waffle in hello for weapons and in prisons they have a recent history of unofficial wildcats like a long heritage of aggressive treatment memories of hard times but perhaps they say that questions of export import buses union leader james cudmore alive but it's very much they are importing redundant portly started we don't export to go bankrupt but its continental colts fans vishal we still got the same conditions that one grandfather a couple a long list of the anti clinton used to
be before the warning sign of sight we used to handling the whole war about the unofficial strikes mr coghlan some people blame the workers what you think the basic one of the psychological one unemployment of the insecurity of the deal that manifests itself in everything that the doctor goes the consonants achatz cut labor to cut costs increased profits were none of the distribution of the prophet coming back to the work has continued sex ring on the fear that he had to work up to the doctor the beginning of that they're used existing laws and this doesn't bring along as i stated before the unofficial strike them
the patients bill he came reacting to the world dioxin ships have imagination self expression
of the carefree days last july as they grow older they become less than magic in a more sober are upset because for them like most other british children a first rate decision of their lives comes at age eleven germination critics say this test has its roots deep in the heritage of british education which once was almost exclusively for the children of the rich and well more intense they claim to continue that tradition mr taylor and master of the harbinger primaries school mr taylor would you explain the eleven plus examination yes cost is an examination in that
state and english and in addition to that set a test called the general intelligence that this consists of a lot of the question may involve your main goal that's exactly what leyland was a combination is and sales of this show the last elected ought to hold the future education the most an additional eleven and african nations scholastic standard grammar schools accounting june paik academic and scientific subjects and didn't want a university and a professional career as
a technical schools the standards are almost it's probably about eighty percent of the children because they couldn't score high end up in eleven working secondary modern school and begin to integrate schools and that the victim fifteen years old that unskilled were laboring jobs a few so called comprehensive high schools like those in the united states an exceptional children eleven us courts the schools are controversial called socialist that's because the anti prohibition on the island are on the island comparatively future than expected growth in revenues and we can even dream of attending university eleven years that some of them from life
well now we're just going on for the next few years and a dvd mail service sense of being to reject it if you postulate a compromise the cost in the us and he wishes you never done and there's a lot of long wooden authentic much on his cell phone about possible so i think a lot of things that are helpful and i think that the parents do not and since the child is either all schools are often seem more like going to do a good enough to fall for you know what they don't know about
local and then chose to give them a lot of rice has been bitten a lot of these and i've known eight percent of the year sluggish backwaters of prohibition on the island produce attitudes as i wanted for better things my lack of education to many people become resigned restrictions of the human person who lies and may lead dead end lives but discontent sometimes leads to action some people believe the island mostly very young pale like venison and jihad
adventures have decided to break with the past by arden britain's newest social experiment i mean china wages are moving to the new talents in life than she would like traditional do know at an appearance in syria and venison and he fled to come to the modern this is the town center the main happiness
in abstraction as a cane
and he says it's going to be
a regional laboratory grammar school back in london now he and a lighter topic that the ways of the newtown he like millions of other britains in the past few years the fringes of acquiring new life more comfortable electric refrigerators the first automatic water and washing clothes a vacuum cleaner there's new modern style furniture in the living room including a tally center which has become a british obsession and a record player and other recent projects the biggest change with avengers is having an entire house for themselves instead of a small london flat says french others living in your own home compare with the london flat
like a good time how does this neighborhood london gets away from the kitchen window and in london and there were a lot of energy into that question at a nice guy then he came as the newcomers rode down roots and speed meaning the only compensation for the land they lose become a routine he says ivory are some people on to that was lively his loss of your land that happened and still happening what has it meant to you and your family well and it means that we are losing all the land that my husband tom and his family actually harmful that six
hundred years around here that it's going to approve this completely we've got to get right away to find another couch it's very difficult nowadays and of course my son has been falling since needed school and then it means a new gop most upset about analyses frequently write about a few acres in a few years time you count that what used to be a ground stop bombing is mostly praising the thirty acres and is now got actually standing on it and then the next thought that hugo just going
backwards we built a lot of buildings do you think it's a sign of the times yes i do i suppose it's a political progress that means a tragedy in the family or the strategy of traditional attitudes of the ivory family or rejected by most of the newcomers are they got broken completely still nostalgic sweet older you're welcome right
right people in transition from the author of the new report along to tradition as a place of its own and stephen lang up a new town the planners spared the ancient village and churchill chapel building use leverage around like his power that are buried prices between traditional about something intensely modern about others as to price this sharp contrast of styles and stephen it how do you feel about well of course that is a terrific contrast that of stopping the out on the overpass i think that the people living in the new season of the event they like their little video they were the atmosphere the monks in nineteen eighty eight
no need it's lovely having the village i mean i hear that you have to have the best of both worlds at the same time we enjoyed being the remaining is a new town have a new environment often changes or small add it to is you have to create new rules since coming to stephen and luminous out of a small revolution is the woman why did you move here and i wanted to move i want to move to the newtown and then i suddenly picked up my local paper and saw that there was a lot of controversy in the state and the local residents
were opposing the building of the newtown a year and some months and you'll definitely the goal of roughnecks london roughnecks and to me about the challenge of vermont people are up and i saw this on an extended with the bison all of them but that we were not russian experts what these are respectable label and for me it was a challenge he said ten years ago about women was an average working man in london and stephen if you become a town council and a leader of the local labor party chatting with martin after another town councilor of the conservative party are talking about class relationship is one of the unsolved problems of professional managers that doesn't want to live amongst the working classes of the state i want to live in they
are used together when you think about eliminating difference is that happening here oh yeah last fall i do i don't agree with that i'm in fact the target is just as much of my own i'm still working through financially and leave if they haven't been on the nearest says the war at all that there's a difference between us i don't think at all that this whole idea
well elijah average life i'm not to say or abolished are lots of cashless society out but it would mean re educating a lot of people in the way of thinking more than fifty hours of mud cindy lohman is an example of re education he worked on the construction of his bacteria than they used to be supervised managing a hundred people such changes from work or through executive and they're on the alabama and most other places and what about the other people with stephen that i do a self selected people avoid they would not
tolerate the condition that they actually were before the war ii people might in fact ruffini end of london or beer goes with that they could watch the giants have been on this come about this and say it's a long list of conditions and good health some of the pieces they're just disappearing as people begin to require more of them are doing
usually conservative and huge increase here were the most challenge spiritual values and stephen prices critical there's nothing wrong with that at all things in them so it is wrought that the only japanese enjoy
today the good things along with the poverty of previous centuries as tonight bought man does not to vibrate norden a hungry world surely people is great to be in south and we are trained the christian commission if we do not worn out the moment that the acquisition of thing is not the vehicle and end all all those who live longer know by the sort of greek graduate contact and see it all that so it is journalism it has its healthy set for the germans who sends wrong but we are up for that means better teaching tool so the
headmaster at their preschool job and start a new school improvement projects he gets help from parents like fred know are distressed out what about the parents of these people and improve their standard of living but do they improve mentally as well oh indeed they knew i think the people who came on all still coming to stevie all somewhat on this very well one's beloved expand on that i would be helping those who was managing a school the important thing that if given the opportunity will expand they won't wake up until the pure which they didn't know existed until i can hear this is exciting this i feel is
shown in these children these children doing things and i find that i am doing things that i never expected my children would never expected if i'd grown up in the same community is that the whole idea of this place to give a very wide horizon to children not innocent of the sugar to become specialists in one particular asset that to broaden their experience one of the ways is by introducing talese town show when those sirens activities which help them in their natural development most of the time so western lives than
just bees island because i don't think it's atrocious some people who are you know it takes him or only thirty people and they're going to put a couple of homes done something like this because people think that it is true that i dont think voters are the idea of them having this value and it goes unchecked will is because when you're a man i want you to grow up with a sound sensible idea on the relationships between june adults and animals were growing up in stevens has its difficulties over the number of youngsters remains who was more than twice the national at eleven plus exam still chops thelma vast majority sister and starts as the
nation that someone often someone who does not belong other leading nations britain spends little more education in the united states one child and ford was on the university and the soviet union won in london twenty percentage of half educated teenagers lakers and stephen is smaller dogs they represent a bigger difficulties of that comet jobs that angel there's no mention on this day there seems to be more mileage estimate more vandalism on monday working teenagers of speaking and on the
isle of dogs serious trouble began appears to be an outbreak of seats by a minority of youngsters stunned a community or newspaper and television came to investigate the changes taking place
why do you need money it's been leaking when
teenagers of stephen h complain of a lack of recreational facilities have all goes much deeper turned away from all traditions that moves to a mosque and had similar for many adults they've traded probation for modern convenience along with the good things they found emptiness loneliness and emotional stolen steven avery and see some positive aspects of britain's most but not all of the recent changes but a few of the important as some lowering of westbury is more opportunity for smaller bats better education driving new industry as the isle of dogs can hear do you see that
the industry's restrictive tradition lack of ambition and places like this island survived in which must become streamlined adaptation of a new satellite towns are you that is huge i think the new ten is a wonderful experiment in it steve it isn't a slum clearance and at the same time there were many people coming here that while they haven't been used to have medical conditions mr jd are much funnier because their home life is based on the house they live in instead of being in a hokey pokey houses it isn't the anecdotes they have something where they can expand themselves we've gotten no
we're not like the americans and the australians we've got pulled out to rebuild the people down below social revolution now it's the conclusion of his most crucial state oracle the occupants of the newtown skin regard themselves as members of the creative new plus employee education each child was regarded as a fundamental factor and the future of the country and until that future can be spelled out in the real tangible turns to the people whose skills brains of labor must make a big way through the second industrial and social revolution against these men
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Postscript to Empire
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National Educational Television and Radio Center
Westinghouse Broadcasting Company
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POSTSCRIPT TO EMPIRE uses film, narration, and interviews to tell the story of two places, the Isle of Dogs region in London and the new town of Stovenage, thirty miles away. The Isle of Dogs is not, strictly speaking, an island. It is formed by a large loop in the Thames as it flows past Tower Bridge; the area is one of the most important shipping and dock districts of London. The program interviews many of its inhabitants: Jim Griggs, who operates a crane and who inherited his job from his father; Borough Councilwoman Cressell, one of the first suffragettes and still, at 78, an active figure in politics; Mr. Hart, the grocer, who comments both on the development of the area and his memories of World War II (as he reminisces about the war, the viewer sees film clips of the air raids, the bombings, the rescue works). Others are Reverend Strong, a Presbyterian minister who explains why there are only some 200 church-goers in a community of several thousands; George Cole, a young man in his late teens who comments on the problems of others of his age in this culturally underprivileged neighborhood; and Mr. and Mrs. Woodward Fisher, who own one of the largest tug-and-barge businesses on the river. Still others who offer their opinions about post-war Britain are tow labor leaders who explain the high frequency of strikes along the waterfront; the headmaster of a primary school who comments on the effects of the eleven-plus examination which determines for children their secondary schooling, and perhaps careers; and a number of teenagers who express their ambitions and needs. Mr. and Mrs. Dennis French, who have moved from the tradition-bound Isle of Dogs to the ultra-modern planned town of Stevenage, are the focus of the second part of the program. Through their eyes the viewer sees the modernistic apartments and houses, the shops, the schools, the working conditions of a community that is only a few years old and that already houses several thousand families. The program again interviews various people; Mrs. Ivory and her son, who once owned many hundreds of acres of farm land which has now been bought and used for factories; Alf Luhman, who came as a carpenter and has become a factory supervisor; Merton Tester, Conservative Party leader and town councilor, who represents the traditional outlook on class structure, education and the government. It shows teenagers, restless after being uprooted from former standards of behavior; a minister of a Gothic church that remains in the midst of modern surroundings; a factory worker whose children are getting a better education than he ever thought possible. This program presents one picture of Great Britain trying to come to terms with a world far different from that which it knew before World War II. Some of the comments are highly critical; others are affectionate, grateful statements. All are the spontaneous, candid reactions of Britishers to the problems that face their nation in transition. The program was written and produced by Michael Sklar. (Description adapted from documents in the NET Microfiche)
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Intertel, a dramatic breakthrough in the dissemination of ideas and cultural exchange through television, was conceived in November 1960. Five television broadcasters in the four major English-speaking nations joined to form the International Television Federation, to be known as Intertel, the first such international organization. The participants were Associated Rediffusion, Ltd. of Great Britain, the Australian Broadcasting Commission, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, and for the United States, the National Educational Television and Radio Center and the Westinghouse Broadcasting Company. Intertel produced on a bi-monthly basis hour-long documentaries on important world topics, inaugurating a global television production agency dedicated to the creation of programs of substance and meaning. John F. White, President of NET, called Intertel more than a fusion of the creative talents of the organizations involved in producing television programs of outstanding merit. It is a step forward to world understanding, he added. I believe that the exchange of documentaries, while of great significance in the vastness of the mutual understanding in it can foster, is but the first step in a regular exchange of all forms of programming. Donald H. McGannon, President of WBC, hailed the new organization as a pool of the technical and creative ability and knowledge of all the groups which will extend the international horizons of television in all aspects. This is the first practical step, after years of talking and hoping, toward the creation and use of international television for cultural exchange and an effective weapon for peace. By having observers examine topics far removed from their everyday assignments, Intertel gives viewers a fresh viewpoint. The founder members indicated that by dubbing these programs in foreign languages and making them available to all nations, they hoped television companies in Europe, Asia and South America will eventually join this unique project. The supervisory committee for the United States programming segments consists of Mr. McGannon and Mr. White; Richard M. Pack, WBC Vice President Programming; and Robert Hudson, NET Vice President for Programming. Intertel came into formal being November 14, 1960, in a special meeting in Vancouver, B.C., and the culmination of plans for such an association which has been under way for a long time. John McMilliam of Associate Rediffusion, was named contemporary Coordinating Officer at that time. (Description adapted from documents in the NET Microfiche)
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Announcer: MacLeish, Rodney
Camera Operator: Hart, Harry
Camera Operator: Briggs, Ricky
Continuity: Lavelly, Marjorie
Continuity: Wilkin, Trix
Director: Alexander, Michael
Film Editor: Ross, Angelo
Interviewee: Cole, George
Interviewee: Tester, Merton
Interviewee: Fisher, Woodward
Interviewee: Luhman, Alf
Interviewee: Griggs, Jim
Interviewee: French, Dennis
Narrator: Julian, Joseph
Producer: Sklar, Michael
Producing Organization: National Educational Television and Radio Center
Producing Organization: Westinghouse Broadcasting Company
Researcher: Charrot-Lodwidge, J.
Sound Recordist: Rootes, Basil
Sound Recordist: Alton, Don
Unit Manager: Hawkins, Tom
Writer: Sklar, Michael
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