Pat Buchanan Press Conference/Interview With Undecided Voter

It. Doesn't appear to be any room for I notes here I've got a bit of a bad cold and cough from last night but let me talk about the tremendous victory that I believe our campaign achieved yesterday. The way I look at it we've got two gold medals and one silver medal in three contests that have been held so far in Alaska and Louisiana and the state of Iowa. I think that we come here to New Hampshire now with our crusade to put American Americans first really brimming with hope growth and opportunity. Let me talk about let me put my notes here excuse me. Let me talk about the achievement of this campaign and it was not the achievement of a man it was an achievement of people of a campaign of loyal dedicated followers and a message and a cause in which we all believe. And I happen to be the political instrument of that cause we came to Iowa and we were about 5 percent I would think in the past in the polls.

Senator Dole was it perhaps 55 percent during that campaign. We spent according to my sister about 600 to $700000 overall in the state of Iowa. We believe Mr. Forbes spent four million. I think Mr. Dole probably spent three million or two million but in any event we were outspent four and five to one. And we came with five percent. Mr. Dole was 55 percent when it ended after one year we were 23 percent and Senator Dole was at 26 percent. And this is in a state which is one of the most difficult states for us because as you know there are critics of my trade message in Iowa. And Senator Dole of course this is his backyard. It's right next door. So we think this is as tremendous a triumph as we have achieved in this year. And we think it's a great win for our campaign. It's a harbinger of terrific things to come. Now let me talk a little bit. About the message to come out of there.

I think if you take a look at the field as it is now with Mr. Forbes I still think this is formidable given his resources and my old friend Lamar Alexander who had a fine evening. It was a class gentleman and running a class campaign. And you have Senator Dole who's a frontrunner in New Hampshire. And the preemptive favorite for the nomination. I think with those three candidates competing with Pat Buchanan really the message that comes out is that there is one only one authentic true conservative who can win this Republican nomination. And that is Pat Buchanan and that's why I'm urging the good people in the right to life movement now to unite behind this candidacy and behind this campaign. And I'm calling on all those conservatives around this country. I know your votes have been divided among many good men but there is only one conservative who can now win. And so we're urging you and we're asking you to unite behind Pat Buchanan and those Perot voters as United We

Stand. Folks those working class independents and Democrats where you can now is the time to come forward and help us. We need your help. I can't win without you. You know we we stood with you on NAFTA. We stood with you on gas. We stood with you against a 50 billion dollar bailout of Mexico. What people in Washington are cutting budgets for veterans and for Medicare. So we stood with you and we stand with you for campaign finance reform that will really clean up in a bipartisan way the culture of bribery if you will that exists in our capital city. And I will work with you to do that. But I need your help now. Let me let me talk about what the victory was for as I said last night. This is a victory for a new conservatives some of the heart a conservatism that stands out in defense of the most defenseless among us the innocent unborn the

elderly and infirm who are threatened I believe by abortion and euthanasia and all the rest of it. Do you see going on in America this is a campaign that's going to stand up for the working men and women of this country whose jobs are threatened by unfair trade deals done for the benefit of huge corporations anxious to shut down their American factories fire their American workers and send the jobs and plants overseas. We're going to stand for them. This is a campaign that stands up for middle class American families who are under a terrible stress of high taxation and a new economic insecurity in America. A different sentiment than we know when most of us grew up when we were growing up in our family of nine children my father worked for the same company for 50 years. He lived in the same parish 45 years. He lived in the same part of town. His entire life and now we see in case after case in this turbocharge Go Go economy which is being

celebrated the uprooting of families the shutting down of factories the tearing apart of communities. It's all I'm asking my fellow conservatives who disagree with me. What in heaven's name is it we want to conserve. If not the jobs and the communities and the neighborhoods where people put down roots and raise families. I mean what does it all for. I mean is it all for just the maximum amount of consumer goods we can consume. So this is what this conservatism of the heart is all about. And as you know we ran for ads in Iowa. Three of those ads did not even mention my opponents. The fourth ad was one that suggested that Mr. Forbes and Mr. Graham and Mr. Dole had all supported. These are television ads and all supported NAFTA and gas which they did. And I said those trade deals were wrong and I wanted to point out where I disagreed. And we're going to be making clear here where we disagree with my opponents and rivals. But I do think the the blizzard of attack ads and the

remorselessness of them I think hurt the process in Iowa. And I don't think it helped the party and I do believe it helped the candidates engaged in those kinds of relentless attacks and we're not going to do that. We're running positive ads all through the weekend. We may do one more. We have our trade ad which is not mentioned my opponent which will be running the rest of the week. We may be doing another ad where I will speak directly into the camera and perhaps state my differences with the other candidates and where I would take America. But that's what this campaign has come to. It is a tremendous effort. I saw somewhere yesterday where a television station I think it was KCCI Mr. Forbes had spent $800000 there and we had spent $60000. That's 13 to one. So this campaign on a very small budget has been able to see and I think the reason we succeeded is this we have a message that is in tune with the heartland of America and that's where we were in the heartland of America. And when you have that message and you have the kind of dedicated volunteers and supporters and workers we do who have learned so much

from our earlier defeats in straw polls and who have worked and worked and worked and perfected what they have done. You can win against great odds and very powerful people with very impressive political resources. And so I think what this comes out. I'm incredibly proud of everybody involved scuse me. Yes ma'am. Well my my you're right nobody would want to see New Hampshire again in the state it was when I came up here in 92 when New Hampshire was in a depression a depression of the soul and the depression of the economy there with general despair up here and some bitterness and real anger toward the president. And because the president it was felt had broken his pledge walked away from them and without you can see there was a recession. The economy appears in much better shape. Unemployment has been cut more than in half here in New Hampshire.

And so it's a very different situation and we're not running against the president the United States. And it's all nine of us I guess in the race not two of us. But I will say this. New Hampshire like every other part of America feels that sense that economic insecurity and economic stress from the radical change that's taking place in the economy partly because of these trade deals the downward pressure that exists on wages. They are suffering too from from Blue. I mean wages that seem to go down as the Dow Jones hits 56 hundred. I think the economic insecurity you see across America even in states with low unemployment exists here in our message I believe has an audience here but let me say this I know out in Iowa there were people at Sampat in farm country the agricultural economy has an enormous surplus. It's the manufacturing that has a deficit that was true. But our message resonated even in Iowa and we didn't back away from it. And we're going to take that message here to the people of New Hampshire Bob here.

We need to get we can get you go in without you know. Well it's a good question. Let's say look you're exactly right. We heard that it required 20 million dollars and we just didn't believe it. We knew we weren't going to raise 20 million dollars so we had an alternative of not getting in or accepting that. And I'll tell you we have I don't have pollsters I don't have consultants. I don't have focus groups. We don't have speechwriters. I write my own ads radio ads and so when we have a very slim slim down staff and we have an excellent staff and we have a tremendous number of volunteers and I think with that we don't fly around in in rented jets we can't afford a plane. But what we have done is as the dollars have come in the dollars

have gone out we have spent only what we had coming in. Now in 1992 after New Hampshire suddenly about $400000 came in in the first week after that. We anticipate that our revenues will increase as we go from victory to victory to victory. One one day one Monday two or three weeks ago $230000 showed up at our headquarters in McLean in small contributions we got a hundred thousand dollars plus over this past Saturday and Monday. My sense will be after Alaska and after Louisiana and after Iowa tremendous amount of small contributions will come in that will enable us to keep going. But that of course dictated our strategy which was we had to find a place early to win and demonstrate we could win. That's why we picked Alaska and we put 60 or 80 thousand dollars in there. And that's why we didn't spend any money in the Florida straw poll. We just didn't want to waste it. And so we got 60000 there.

We put about several hundred thousand into Louisiana and we put as many said $670000 you can do it without the right. Right. That's me on the street. Well you know I were with I worked with Richard Nixon in 1960 six and 67 and every survey showed that Republicans respected him more than anyone else. He was a great president they liked him but then he couldn't win. And he told me we're not going to get over this except one way we're going to have to start winning. We have got to go into the primaries and win. Now I have defeated all all of my rivals in Alaska narrowly over Mr. Ford's but two to one over Bob Dole and four to one over Phil Gramm. We went down to Phil Graham's own backyard where everybody said it was a foolish risk we were taking. And we defeated Phil Graham in his own backyard in Louisiana in a very

difficult caucus process which we had to explain even once while we were gathering votes. What we did in Iowa I think it is it is an historic achievement if you consider the resources we put into Iowa where we came in six or seven starting off at 5 percent. Mr. don't 55 percent. New Hampshire New Hampshire is home to Henry's home country to me. If we can do very well here I think the message will go out to America. I think tremendous amounts of small contributions will pour in. And that's what we're counting on. We're counting on momentum Kerry and Kerry the campaign and helping us with fundraising. And we're also counting you if I can say to the cameras on our phone number 1 800 Go Pack Go. Vote. Let me say one thing yesterday. We usually get 50 to 75 calls a day to 1 800. Go Pat go. Last night we got twelve hundred calls to that number this morning our phones are ringing off the hook. People want to be a part of this cause they believe in it. They do wonder whether we can win

but more or more coming to believe that Pat Buchanan can be the next president of the United States. And I'm coming to believe that. How can my views be too extreme when Bob Dole is echoing me on every issue. I mean. Hold it Mr. Clinton. There was a famous national talk show host who said it was a great speech by Bill Clinton at the State of the Union only it sounded like Pat Buchanan wrote it. Yes and the issue of illegal immigration they're all talking about it. The cultural war for the soul of America. Bob Dole's talking about it all the Republicans want to shut down the IRS. Jack Kemp wants to shut down hard. You know you take any issue we ran on in 1992. And some Republicans out there take Steve Forbes as big three issues terrible image flat tax and of congressional pensions who was first in his campaign to propose each of those we were there all echoing our message. We are moving the national debate in the direction in

which we have been trying to take America. The Republican Party is becoming a Buchanan party and that's why we think we ought to be the one to lead it. We were there when the views were unpopular. That. Well they're going to look these terms isolationist protection has come from the 1920s and 30s. Now let me suggest America in 1995 is a different world when you had Tojo in the Far East Stalin controlling Russia Hitler controlling all of Europe. This is a new world we live in. Even the Cold War is over. And some of my colleagues and friends will not give thought I think to this new world where America is competing with old allies and old rivals and old adversaries to be the greatest power in the 21st century. And I used to be a free trader but it seems to me simple common sense that you do not force American workers who make $10 an hour or $12 an

hour in a textile mill to compete with Mexican folks who have to work for a dollar an hour. The factories are going to go there and I think folks have not realized all of this. And I think we have realized this and I believe that that our ideas quite frankly are the common ideas in America more and more I saw in the Wall Street Journal about two weeks ago by three to one it said by three to one it said that Americans now believe that these trade deals do not work for the American people. Let me say this. You call they call me a protectionist. I am proud that I stood up to protect the wages and jobs of American workers into trade deals NAFTA and GATT that were not in the interest of my country or the American working people. But look what happened when their trade deal miscarried in Mexico needed 50 billion dollars. I protected American workers who will protect all of them. Mr. Clinton Mr.

Greenspan Mr. Rubin and Mr. Dole and Mr. Gingrich and Mr. Graham they rushed to protect Citibank Chase Manhattan and Goldman Sachs. Why. Because there are bonds that Tesla Bonos were suddenly worthless. So they sent 50 billion dollars to Mexico to bail out Citibank Chase Manhattan and Goldman Sachs to protect them from suffering the ravages of the marketplace. But they won't protect American workers. Now let me tell you something let me just say something. This is why my party is in trouble. This is why my party is losing the support of middle Americans and working people. This is why people are talking about a third party because they do not see anyone in Washington who will represent or address their concerns. I'm doing it. I'm going to I'm running in this campaign not third party because I want to make the Republican Party a great coalition. I can bring the Perot voters home. People say you know can you win. I'm the one candidate in the Republican Party who can bring the Perot voters home.

United we stand folks. And the Reagan Democrats on social and cultural issues. Anybody down that pro convention knows we burned the paint off the walls. We've got 12 standing ovations. They were heckling Bob Dole about NAFTA. Those fellows can't do it. It's too narrow. Their conservatism. It's an arid bookish conservatism of think tanks and foundations. And we need a conservatism of the heart. Well you know I think everybody was anticipating a much larger turnout in Iowa. And let me say this. I went up to Iowa after Louisiana and I sat down for an hour drinking soda water in some lounge. And all you saw was one after another savage attack. And this is in one hour. And you know my sister told me that I said where are our ads. And she said We bought a thousand points that's a good buy. They're buying a thousand points today and they're attacking one another and I think that's responsible for the very large increase in undecided at the very moment

are positive ads running. And I think people said you know why don't we vote for that fellow. He's got some ideas for America and he's not engaging in this stuff. And I think it hurt. Well listen now with due respect to Mr. Forbes quite frankly he started off as an outsider. I think he grabbed three of my issues but he put millions of dollars behind expropriating them. He was doing a good job because it was very positive that what he wanted to do three things very popular. I think all we saw for the last two weeks or something was this artillery barrage back and forth. And I think it hurt him. And I think that I think people are tired. Look I think people are tired of the chronic negativism in politics. Their concern they have very real concerns and they want to see him addressed and they want people to speak to those concerns and they also want you to be clear where you stand even if they don't agree with you. I've had many people come up and say you know why don't you you know slow down on the right to life that you're great on the sovereignty issue. And I think he does tell everybody exactly where you stand. You know focus groups. You know he's speechwriters

don't need pollsters you don't need consultants making $500000 a year. Tell them what's in your heart. Run straight out say it openly and boldly and it works. It works for our campaign to run that way. What do you mean as long as we're Washington well let me say about Senator Graham. I felt from the beginning that the contest for the conservative challenger to Bob Dole would be between Pat Buchanan and Phil Gramm. We both had advantages and disadvantages. And Senator Gramm did extremely well in the early days of nineteen ninety five he won every straw poll virtually He had a huge winning streak there for a while. Let me say this about Senator Graham. He did a magnificent job in fighting national health care. He is a tireless tenacious campaigner on economic issues. He's been right a lot of the time. He showed real guts when he when he disagreed with his

Democratic Party and quit the Congress of the United States and running again as a Republican. And I got a lot of respect and admiration for Senator Graham but I think what he said in Louisiana is right. He said The winner of Louisiana is going to be the conservative candidate for president United States 1996. And he's right. And Senator Graham as you know you know he said something to me early in his campaign. He said that we're starting this off as friends he said I hope we'll be friends when this is over. And from my standpoint we are. Look I'm not I don't tell him I don't tailor my message I don't tailor my message because we're we're in a new a new state. You know I'm right to life all the way and I'm proud I've got the support of right to life folks. And I hope quite frankly they've been more united and I wish we would have beaten Senator Dole. Ambassador Keyes got

thousands and thousands of votes. And if they were united here we can win. But if we're divided then we risk losing the agenda in which we all believe. And but let me say Look I know the people said and we did that because of agriculture your trade position is going to hurt you. My trade position is what I believe is best for my country. And we're going to defend it and I will defend it in New Hampshire more. Pretty much what you do with that. Well I think first do I get a question on Sunday about mainland China invading Taiwan. I think that's preposterous. They don't have the ships to do something like that that's it. That would be an exercise which would make Normandy look like a minor effort what would we do. I think the thing for the United States to do is quietly tell the Chinese communist government this. Listen gentlemen you

have to know. Listen gentlemen you have to know that if you launch missiles against Taiwan there will be a crisis in relations between the United States and mainland China that no invasion of China up Taiwan will be tolerated by China by the United States in American history. I would tell and then I would say to the Chinese I would tell them exactly the things I would start doing if they started escalating the conflict with with Taiwan. But I'll tell you what I would do I would not do something like this publicly. I don't think because then people have to back down and they lose face. I think you go quietly and tell them listen you're dealing here with a serious man. The people in Taiwan have been friends and allies of ours. We know you both believe in one China and two governments right now but we are not going to let you settle this matter by force and brutality and missiles and airstrikes

that we will provide. I would tell them quite frankly we will provide the Taiwanese with the wherewithal to defend themselves and the United States of America will not let you succeed in an invasion of Taiwan and you will lose World Bank loans you will lose. You will not sell a single toy in the United States if you do this. And and that you will risk everything you have gained over a long period of time. And I think you do it quietly. Thank you. Thank you very much. Can you do one. No matter what your hands for positive or negative if mates are good and you are being called. To. How you feel now both about the

promise that you wanted him to know about the process and general sort of it's in part why should I. My personal feeling is that there is nobility in his endeavor. There is nobility in his endeavor but I don't believe that once as a kid coming into Washington as the governor of VA You know one of the poorest states in the Union one of the smallest states not being part of the good ole boy network. I think that that probably was difficult as it was for Mr. Carter when Mr. Carter came in from Georgia because there was another man that I think that there was great nobility in the endeavor and nobility and the promise of what he wanted to attain and he was unable to do that. And I think part of that is that good old boy Washington politician network that these men neither of whom have been part of that. So you feel that it was the system itself that sort of

snood this guy like his intentions were good. The system got the better of him with the power structure that the better of him. I think I do feel that way. He cheated absolutely cheated. And I don't feel that right now. I think Thomas Jefferson must be rolling around in his grave. I haven't. I really don't think that what's happening today is anything like that man had ever envisioned would happen in this democracy and the control of the march by the few and the many paying their way and the few not doing their share I mean I'm really angry about the way taxes are handled and I'm angry about corporations. The gifts that are given corporations who then turn around and take their businesses and the loans that they go out and move their work and their jobs elsewhere I'm real angry about that. And there are companies that I do not purchase their goods and whatnot. It doesn't make any difference I guess to them but to me it does. And there are some things I do not buy and I buy American. I try to buy american as much as

I can. But today it's really tough in this global economy because you get home with things that have American flags on them and you turn them over and they are made elsewhere. You know eating the words right out of my mouth that I was busy. Do you feel cheated and is it like you know. Exactly. So you use the word angry to describe how you feel now in 96 plus how you felt back then in 92. What has that had on on your voting you said the effect it's had on one of your sons is that he's totally turned off one of the 23 year olds. What does it have on you because you seem very civic minded you and get involved. Sure. Be a good citizen. And I'm still willing to do that. You know I think it's important. And I think those people that turn their backs or that don't register and they don't follow through and don't find out what the issues are. They are the ones that are going to be cheated in the end and they're one of the reasons why we're in this mess. I feel the uninformed vote of the person who's just interested in says well doesn't affect me.

Can you blame them for being angry enough and turned off enough by campaigns and what it takes to get elected. What they do once they're in there. No. No I don't blame them but I think that it makes the company right the country ripe for some change that could be terrible. What I don't know what could we get a third party that would come in and cause some big problem. I don't know. I just think the country is ripe for a change and I think we all need to become informed and we need to vote and we need to be willing to stand up and be counted. OK. How has your own anger evolved is that we're in four years. I mean has the fact that you still are disappointed or upset about some of the same things that you were 40 years ago. How has that changed. Has it made you feel more energized like yes I'm going to get more. Does it make you feel more hopeless more worried. What's the difference.

I think you know I should say that you know I keep telling my kids this is the greatest country in the world. You know what I am complaining about my elected officials that I'm going on and this is the greatest country in the world and I don't really want to live anywhere else. Now this is where I want to be. But I I think that we need to activate our citizenry so that we are all taking responsibility for one another and we're voting and we're involved in what's happening in our communities I mean community in the community where I live. There are lots of times when there's no one running for an office. There just isn't anyone there and I've never run for anything but a library trustee and I like that and that was fine and that's as far as I want to go. But people don't want to become involved as your city seems like from 92 to 96. There isn't a lot of change but I'm ever hopeful and like my brother said I'm a real optimist. I always think that the best is going to come of this. And maybe the country needs to have this hard time and maybe we need to do this. And I wish the muckraking would stop I hate all the character

assassinations and I dislike some of the ads that I'm seeing that are really not nice isn't the word. But they don't. I'd rather talk about issues issues more important and just draw things together. You mention that third party might be an option and people continue to get sick of the stalemate and the gridlock and everything. What's your feeling as to whether that would be a good thing. I mean do you see that that's a likelihood of things keep going the way I think of places in the world where in the 1930s we had a very charismatic person stepped into Germany and did a lot of talking in Germany and there was a lot of heartache and a lot of fun dissatisfaction among the population and he didn't turn out to be the savior that they thought he was

and the world will forget him for a long long time. And I hate to think. And then I think about the Romans. You know we've been through this great golden period here of only 200 short years. And I wonder if there were still made out of the right stuff. You know can we really pull this around. It. Can the country draw together and pull this back again. I don't know. I'm not sure. There's an awful lot of me some you know I want to take care of me. It's what's good for me what I'm going to do and not a lot of us and we end up with the direction of the country should go in and you know you say the country is ripe for change. Can we pull it back around again. Ideally what would what would that be. I think we need to take care of what's going on in the United States. I think there's a lot of things in this country I mean I go to the soup kitchen and volunteer and I'm appalled and I stand there and say this is the greatest country in the world to myself. And we have a soup kitchen. I mean my dad and mom used to talk

about people selling pencils and apples on the street. I mean I never saw it but I used to hear about it but all those soup kitchens and something I'll never forget. And I'm sure the people that are on the receiving end won't forget either. But I just I'm appalled I'm appalled when I see things being cut in cities. Right now we're in the Northeast we've had all this snow and all this you know and I'm looking at the budgets the cities are all talking about how much it's cost to clear the snow and the salt and the whatever. And my town is also you know talking about budgets and how they're going to have to borrow on 97. You know when the 97 budget in order to pay the bills for this one and then what happens and there we go again. Deficit deficit deficit. And I think we all have to like. We've all we were all going to have to do our part. I am you are everybody else is a feeling. I get this. No no no no. But my sense is that the way people pull together in the 30s and 40s through the Depression and through World War 2 for a

comet that's vanished. I mean it's like we're going to go is it. I agree. I don't feel that way. I mean I think that you know a lot of things that happen to my responsibility as a citizen and I have response. I have a responsibility to handicap kids. I have a responsibility to a fire department and all the things that are needed in the city. But I think a lot of people don't want to take your number one. And I know I hear it in my own family I hear it and around me and you know that the kids that walk through our school every day. I mean they they all have needs that need to be met and all the people that are out on the street and the people in the nursing homes and I mean everyone has needs that need to be met. And a lot of us those of us that are able working and can do that need to help the others and that's what a community is and I think we've forgotten teams that are doing bring. That's the $64 question. I'm not sure this is a good word. I don't know. I really

don't know. But I think the I know I know a lot of people are talking about this. You know talking about what it's going to happen what are we going to do. Kind of concerns you hear from your friends your neighbors the folks at you. You know here with this engine there is a lot of concern about Bosnia. You know American soldiers going to Bosnia. I feel that that is a noble purpose there. You know I think that it should have been done four years ago three years ago when it first started I think it should have been taken care of right away. But I also feel there were other places in the world that also need our help. And if you're going to police the world do it. And if you're not close the door and put your money with your own people to take care of your own which way should we go. We're all on this planet together. Got to learn to get along. And that's either the primary or the general. Does it matter. And if so I hope so. I hope it matters. I hope. You know

it's a new beginning I think can be a new beginning for us and for our nation depending on who ends up winning. And there's a lot of concern about a lot of the you know we just saw in the news this week that is that Senator Coleman I believe in Maine is not only going to finish one more year and what a loss that's going to be. And there are so many of them that have just decided they just don't want to do it anymore. And I and I you know somebody is going to have to step up to do these things. Do you see any body who's in the field now. Because it seems like what we've got is what we're going to stay with you know some third party person. Is there anyone who can fill such a demand. It's hard to tell because when they get there sometimes they change. I think. I mean I'm still looking really still reading still looking

and I know my husband is a lot of a lot of the people I know are sort of sitting back reading looking trying to figure out what what to do. That's terrific. I mean is there anything you'd like to think that's about a scary time though. I think don't you think. I mean really it's a scary time. I know my son has a son my son is a veteran. It was in the Marine Corps for four years and I know he's even you know he's even said you know he's always been like this. And I said no it hasn't. This is no you know this is a new time of this you know but that generation needs to get involved. They really need to and I don't know how to get them going. I mean I browbeat and talk and do everything I can. But I say we really need to we've got to do more with our young people. I think seems to be you know things happening for kids. You know there are things happening for children. But I think that young adult group the you know the feeling they say a lot of kids because my house is has a lot of kids in it.

Lots of the time. And you know the kids are concerned and they really are but they're angry not the way you describe them. Right. But their music is angry. Oh yes. Oh yes. It's real. Is it's not the tempered kind oh terrorises. Right the other side as well. Right. But they're really angry and I think the the anger in the music is really some of the you know the lyrics the angry the sound is angry. It's just it's an angry sound. And I that's. This is the first like angry music that I remember. Is so hard to believe that like in the early 60s the other older generation thought or the 50s even that was like a renegade angry boy that looks so innocent compared to what's here now. Absolutely. Absolutely. OK. Well not to end up alone. Check

check check check check check check check check. OK. Well. This