National Association of Educational Broadcasters Convention Educational Broadcasting and ETV Facilities Act Part Two

Which has been or will be used for the educational television purposes is eligible for 25 percent credit. And what we will normally explore in that case is what have you been using it for. What are you going to use it for. The extent to which you intend to use it for clothes because. Of the 50 percent separates apparatus to be acquired must be used only for DTV purposes and primarily for broadcast only incidentally for closed circuit. The same would be cool of your 25 percent of that as well. But if you're if your apparatus has been used and or will be used for the TV broadcast and only incident with the closed circuit. On the other hand if you have a closed circuit setup that you intend to go on using that entirely for closed circuit. Then that apparatus is not eligible for credit it is only when it will be used primarily for broadcasting. Brings up the question of fair market which is. A considerable one to kick

around a recognised appraisal A qualified. Broadcast Engineer generally. The regulations say the appraisal must be made by one or more person who's acceptable to the federal government which means to us. General you write us or call us up. And say how about so-and-so and give us some idea of who he is and what his background is. He should be impartial. In other words not your own engineer not the engineer of the station who's giving you the equipment to give to be an engineer. He runs his appraisal. Gives coverage qualifications and this generally would be acceptable. But when we come down to the nuts and bolts of such a problem it's a good idea to get together to say so that you are sure before you want to take the work. That you're coming up with something that is at least at that perspective acceptable. Is this representative of one of the major vendors in that area who deal in this pretty regularly.

We've had at least one case under which it was yes. He was able to speak to you know know what I'm talking about of course is and I hope you're talking about it. The gift of equipment. The fair market value of apparatus you already have in operation is your if you have the invoices and it is your purchase price at the date you acquired it for educational purposes. Assuming afterward they're going to be one of them will be running on you was crazy because you're temporary. Does this mean then that your right to be here already so to speak.

If the state temporary maximum limitations are suspended it means from then on in each of the states is only faced with a statutory limitation of one million dollars. So I would assume that if you have a pending application and have been prevented from getting a grant because of a temporary maximum that once this is suspended it would continue being processed. I can't speak for him yes but I don't have to know what particular state you're from what. Yes well I am generally commit with that. I would assume that once the temporary maximum limitation is suspended at that point your application will be carried forward to final processing. I would echo what John says with this one exception. Assuming that the excess over the maximum is the only complicating factor. In other words I'm not sure which particular one you represent.

There's no point going into the hands of it right now but we will of course apply the question of need on a geographical basis. As well as taking into consideration your own internal needs that is as good as your state agency. For example take funds from others. Organizations make peace in Syria. Now she's finding such a new series. Never had a case of funds from other other federal organizations for capital matching she has. For. Me operate if you can get most of the funds for instance to buy yourself a tract of land I don't think we do a source much for where the money was going for two years.

So we kept on going. So which one of them is the city this is what he told the Syrian We want to support leak. Please eat more than just this that unless there are others of you who are likely to get federal funds as part of your capital matching Let's talk about it later too. I guess the rest of us would like to talk about it but I don't think we have not we have not had such a case. I haven't memorized the regulations so that I'm not entirely sure. That the regulations don't specifically prohibited the regulations applied to the heavy mining is one which refers to the applicability of 25 percent. He quipped that his credit apparatus

and it says that the value of any transmission apparatus to the static wire installed by donation from the United States will be better off I am so if you had previously received what effectively would be the gift of a transmitter let's say from ASHCROFT You know you couldn't claim that credit. But with respect to your matching the 50 percent matching. So far we have not raised the question of where you got your money if you robbed a bank got away with it we haven't been too fussy about. Where you push it you see people look at you you want to know heartland. Leak out. Can we meet regularly on her cheek. It's a bit sleazy similar last year we were lucky to be here really can do it here. We secularists your letters are the most you are willing to take it is bleak You say you want to receive letters here.

Seriously if you want your take I think we would like to know at any given time the approximate age of 85 and age kids you know where they at least think it was sure it was he can live now was born Killzone 25 he said. It was 25 out of Mexico his eligible under this program. Rob came by long. Questions. On State station houses they say no hard. Feelings were the allegations for you to believe this is meet a hooker that marched under the present statute. You state there is a limitation of one million dollars for each of the states

of any state with your high or would be limited to one million dollars for the statute is presently written. There are 70 I think there are seven states as a time where simply because of size of its population and geography the temporary state of the station is identical with the legally with the legal maximum limitation of Iowa Michigan Pennsylvania California Alaska Texas to New York. See that's a statutory imitation the $1000000 is a statutory only temporary maximum limitation wasn't listening to the case set of a whole body. Partly he. Was here last week one week. Clearly. This will be yours. You are losing money all

the posters for the January and you're here because they. Raised me here on the for the week month period of the week. True enough by any real situation if you happen to be. The problem of course is a little different for a brand new update getting started where you haven't had any previous is. The extent to which. History shows that. Funds have been characteristically appropriated as an effect. This is always a problem and all of all that it means really is that we will come back to you

probably at a time when you or your application when your next appropriation has been made. Concretely instead of just wishful thinking or a daydream and ask for confirmation of it. We have had the problem from the reverse side actually. That is where for one reason or another process it has been delayed so that although the application anticipated the full fiscal or calendar year when it was filed by the time we get around to making a recommendation we may have gone six months into that period you see. Now at Six Flags. We have to ask for a renewal of this what are your anticipations in such a situation we would take into account to see the fact that you have the money now and what you can literally say that you will have it. This might be the situation in which a conditional point would be a major serious disadvantage to a conditional that you get the approval which permits you to go ahead and write specs and take bids and so forth. You may not need your money for three or four months out if

we want to avoid conditional rights if we possibly can. But this might be the kind of exceptions and he told you about before where if that excuse me arose we would maybe make a contingent right. Here for the question. I've seen none we will conclude no initiation be gazin put it to me this. Morning. Well Lord I forgot you're looking at about your opinion. I didn't know you had all that on.