Wingspread; Group Session C - Tape 2

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so. Have many never learned or satyrs. The street car right where all sorts of situations. Burning her. Out. When you talk about thinking about welfare a radio station. Can do that. That was. Never. Right. Or got. There is it. Yes I think that in order to take advantage of what is already. Have a. Say. Quality education.

To. The radio stations out of the bottle using their hero. Oh oh. There's. Tension. Oh. Or do you think the broadcast. Was made for the right role right where you go as a hedge up to our. First wife you're going to have built up by this. Oh manufacturing distribution. Goes with your broadcasting. Well thanks Ira. Yes. That. Is the problem. Rose Well you know Rosie was to get. The other fact. I had to do it.

For us. But I just had a awful lot. Like that or oh I'm not all for the cars or the boys were real I don't want to hear but I also know that people. Walk over there oh. You know you deviate massive reserves just this is a good place for her. I just question I know you're researching Yeah why do you regret the writer of a while ago I want to retaliate me and I said I don't know I think maybe that happened you know. Oh and I like that I did my very well be I thought well but doesn't mean that I may not be otherwise because I don't think many people thought about that's what troubles me you know nobody has brought us cover as a parent ever again education things like what your yes my

hears all. And why is it that RCA you know up to their eyeballs and nobody as far as I know right. Educational radio has used me thought about it and I think that's. Week troubling I think because I think of their role as a broadcaster. Well this is what I mean about being wired in here all the city I mean I know I'm going to see really what we're talking about out here is universities producing teaching materials and I was there I know it's all broadcast. Reproducing or teaching after. I had that here this is my mile radius I heard him. Well that's maybe the way to go here. Now we're halfway through the broadcast spread out. You know all the Russians let me. Tell you this is the road out of either side of your broadcast but you did some of what we did was there a car yet now they are him.

I think you've linked it to a certain kind of contact using oral teaching material I have in mind that chamber music groups drama mama poetry. Oh OK well call up your own Ranger. Yeah right but I just cannot guess what it was I just got her alive. I guess. I had the below are. At the airport. Or if. I had my daughter all these life here for what we're doing I have a good job of reducing. It all over her. Whether their technique for dissemination I thought was right or and. Like with what I thought were better ways of using or

for that they are to just ask for it up in your reference point. Well I was raised by a right wing was if we shoot their way we won't have any way short of a new way of life. Well here we go too far right you say here. Maybe they should. Oh I think I think that that meeting question you're talking about and you're talking about looking elementary some degree secondary. Oh right. I mean have faith or order fairly low that. Broader problem level. Well right here I think it was only through the support that you got

for the broadcast operation. Any other production productions that are run right that the satellite rather the other way around using. Otherwise I was doing it right. You have the broadcast rights as a means of motivating production. So I just raise the question. Does this affect. Oh yes this was back when I. Pressed play. Well. Yes I mean. You know I love this area. Let's. Take. A look at your peril broadcast he had last year.

Protect. Our home. Territory to love our players back here. You know that was a remarkable man. But the point you are hearing Tell think you could use a better poet type. Oh right. I think there are categories of people who are although it is the latter setters that really was yes you know we sever any form of catalyst for good question. Wise words for all of us. Somewhat different from what we are OK they. Can do more of it for oil or whatever. I wish you. Well you will see that like her radio for all receive it by

getting a tape of the paper for a lighter heart. No I don't I agree with you I don't see I'm not using my name in the matter as I'm eating a breakout that might hurt like to break out of the station here for a very good reason why you can't hold back some we are supposed to be just more pleasant yourself with the other factor. Back. When you talk with me about that I mean broadcasters. While. I think about the history of the whole bill got around what 35 years like this. Never achieved anything like that. And why is it never said Mark that they never had a car and I got it. Yeah sure what happened with you is that I think I have it now because it got well there may well.

But they're still problematic because right then I want to just be a white hope while ordering it. Waiting for the shipment to get there getting it ready or are you sending it back a. Was there the whole mishmash wiring. As opposed to going out and throwing out that drop their Earth. Oh and all that really stuck. But yeah you can't predict necessarily bad. What do you do every home. Oh I thought about all that at the end Up All right have the systems approach somehow make us think to operate by a place where there are very few. Right here for a while away. Well I think we all agree that. Mary Rose by. Just as a

teacher of her class right here. Where she was the best part. Not. That I was quite I guess that was. That. Yes so somewhere. The radio location where it should stop. Is that. Arthur's write up words other people make up for your horror movie. Think of these are like broadcast. Oh sorry. Go go all the way and the whole. Black laboratory here. Yeah maybe we should i mean either I thought it was. The time right here is the spirit of badness and venturesome is

that. There's just no substitute for when you're in the business of no commercial radio or a building where jazz hit my mark. This other thing are are running General Motors or whatever the hell yeah. If somebody had said to the giant company years ago. Well that's better decided Mr. FORD. How far we want to take this contract we didn't think about it this way this way. Probably Ford said well OK great I will write I'm recreating this thing yesterday and you already are man saying the better part we just can't we are we are right now sit down and think about how far we have to go with this thing. Well they don't want to have that problem with that but the MO got him a hero lane or what. Now that I think that that while that's a. You know how far you should go is this. I'll say kind of an interesting question and I

don't and I don't think it's also fair right. I think that they first of all of the individual station will have to determine that for themselves and we'll all grant that democratic society but what I hope for as a person. Shore or Terminator are bad and these institutions. Said last I got her it was that do exert pressure one way or another and say oh this far no farther. I think the best the best break in this are those are exactly where the radio station is and append your hand in the sense that there's. Not. Another soul weighing up whatever versity or combination of interests that are involved in unity which which allowed are if you are. If there is any disposition to change the subject I like to talk about that when I

left or for when I'm going after class I don't want you. I'd like to hear. That as well. Yeah. Well. I had

an issue as I don't think I really want to go back to it. But let me say parent that likely that not all of us thinking about that has really made. I didn't buy a whole writing for that I did acquire a Xerox of 55. I am. Not for oh I don't know. But I think we're coming to grips with. Here is how I feel as it is. I'm just much 11 years as you are a sense I'm not a measure of your life. I've been I already was a. Man. For 30 years. I have no interest in it but. I think we're looking for an identity I mean that I come to this after a couple days here. There were three still asking myself the question what is educational radio I mean. And until we. Pinned down in a sense of identity in the man to be one so like that of the I mean that perhaps. As many

functions but it seemed to me to answer your question they were going toward a function which I hadn't thought of as much as it could be a tremendously meaningful one can be the most important thing that comes out of this whole conference direction which we're going at today at the heart of the matter Harley together or I think leading the way this was the concept of of the educational radio. Organization the stations serving anything yet in communities and even to this means communities where. The commercial radio as it is is. Still. Probably getting the same banal thing that we know and where these people don't have a and I sense that as a party whether we're talking about this morning I mean that challenging or less heated to say I'll fight this but join up with that I meet you have to have these people in. An underdeveloped earth develop

under probably the interstitial area. Having their own kinds of their own kinds of programs for a living at it was very challenging to be very exciting the idea that that my dream woman son might become part of a part of a community station there and. Maybe as we said if they have a program like the Iraq war or sexiness happening that there will be certain leaders and there certainly are. Virgo with my thinking to write Very Rev.. MARGARET I mean and I thought of Martin Luther King philosophy of don't rock the boat in terms of violence but we got away again and they had we had a few weeks ago they said let's get the garbage out of the streets I mean they're getting mildly thanks to the city that they have in their whole area to be gathered there with the stench with both physically and metaphorically that finally went to the city hall and they started to do something about it but these people have their own radio station there. It might be that they might even have a better sense of community identity

and that's just speaks to me as an area in which. I think we're beginning to make some progress and today we're going to talk a bit more about haters here. And go further. Like to characterize what's off student with the fact. That like this was deleted on your radio station. Do you or would you consider appropriate play by play of high school board members. Try to think of ways to like your station identity with people you're not now reaching. That I somewhat agree with you sort of feel that with a lot of talk about ordeal here but not much about radio radio best. There's really no reason for me to think they were doing this for off the track as we may seem to be from time to time because. Radio itself started authors get free after all. We're now we're talking about what kinds of service. These

kinds of people render and. Follow up here. There are many situations in which the missile technology also played within social framework. You were raised the question. Wrestling with a problem. What really you're against. There may be lots of things that they're saying. Cursed be a past that this dialogue has been going on both commercially and on Radio Radio virtually all cases mostly robberies and other cases for Los Angeles. Most all want the FBI. He's done worse. Than that. That's that's not the real way to go in a given situation. So we may be talking about a wider

task force right here where we got all sorts. And it may be. That one of the problems that people who are already here. Is that they have to restrict what they're most technologically what the audience hears from here. This is one of the other life. Oh yes. Yes are not the program here but you know the guards whether they were there are very difficult. Yeah you don't know yet. So you know he was far from here. Your friend I

think responded quite directly to your specific social life and we want to get paid for a pretty good idea. And. Maybe we can start to pick up some of these. Oh. Yeah. Our broadcast radio broadcast. Was distributed free software. Fighting that record just about oh. No way. Right that's like saying why don't you make printed out all the things that are out there because there's

good here and a lot of people that heard this but then I read a. Lot of us in radio broadcasting it was that as a yes we do have some copies of the speech he or I just can't make. And sometimes we have considerable expense. And better than most of us are in the publishing guy. Then he was asked where. I distribute. Literally I was I was a teacher. Oh OK. And we're still going to do the Jeffersonian heritage headwaiter then all right. But at some point you guys say well we just can't go that far because I work with has. Already got us better Anderton's I'll create a generation of new ideas for. This is a business that you're creating. Well I'm sure you know I think they're right there.

The whole problem of setting. And this is the thing that we're forgetting right gas stations do even though it happens to be her I was at the school board said yes we have their story. What are they going to require I think. If we start from the premise. I think we all agree that they need to be better served. By broadcasting station and they are sure that there are films that kind of assessment ongoing the community had to be forced to broadcast operate in this assume really tremendous. Man are ya. It also brings up questions about the organizations

whether they are in the current licensee there are either by or more that. You undertake this task. And then I think there really was no minor point in there. It is do we go under the jacket. I think we can yes yes no no yes yes the community needs are sites that are yours or whatever other gantry may work while we are there they are rock AFAIK not at all mind up. What do. You get. Do we use whatever technology is available. I think there is a question here. I was out I was trying to communicate. I think that are. Probably right. We're. Right. Back up.

Where we are stuck. Right. Here. We are talking about new ways of life. I would love to get back already working more of that all over.

The resources. Of the radio station. That's why I want my man. You're exactly right but I can't and like go further and say you don't have a healthy market. Healthy market. Then I get that all right. Well I know that is what I like better. I would rather try to get more subscribers that I get that process. More. Cars

and they are right they are good people. They go wild doing good white with it. But if I were a tradable right here there and just in terms of helping market your way what would happen and fail to. Meet the demands of the circumstances here. Peter stacking. With horror it would be a hit over here. Here I think that one of the things that happened in first part. How it worked when I first

came by. We have. Way more to help. Get over our oh. Lord. Radio. Wire. Broadcast. Really. Yes what better broadcast. Out there for a country that you know we have all kind of well regulated there right. Formal so fucking good at it. You never hit me but I did.

Raise it as a family member of our service services under this life. And I want to serve you know obviously and may decide based assessment but there it is serving a whole hearted can do certain things better. But there are other ways that they can start. But it doesn't get it out again. That radio station to stablish distribution of film was. Perhaps us out of neighborhoods that are. A whole range of educational activities. Which might be done to bring instruction to this neighborhood or this community. That's our patient education self or the institutional or the regular they. Are. High price of gas. Figure out. What segment of higher is the appropriate role for radios that have. To happen. Rather than spreading. Out of the whole ride home instruction already paid for full service. For those of us that certain things can't be done by radio I think it's going to be tough.

Heather we would agree that the radio station's primary. Purpose is to broadcast every day and then if there are. City area or so I've been off of this from which weekend I might like recording. Tapes publications and saw that give us an additional reason why Grace will be my guest. Talk about you know they. Do for people or for the broadcast activity has to go in the boat by saying right here whatever you have a lot by right.