Teen Killers: A Second Chance?; Sarah Zalsel, Dan Wall

Oh. OK. OK are you ready. You want to get a level on Sarah you know you can't you just tell me what are you doing this morning at 10:30. Oh well what are you doing at noon. I mean I'm like. What do you have for lunch. Thank you yes. OK. Hey Joe. Oh we're going to do it. It's. Brevity. You. Ready. To fan off. Oh it's quiet it's dark. You wrote You heard I don't know if you heard the end if you would. Daniel's mother but she was talking about when he first moved up here and he was having a hard time adjusting and I guess kids were picking on him a little bit here and there and I like you to tell us a little bit about that time period and how

you know how he reacted to the other kids and what the other kids were doing to him just give us some sense of what he was going through. Here it's actually pretty quiet and shy most time. I had one class with him I think and I think it was right when he first moved there. He didn't really talk much she wasn't involved with everybody else but it was probably mostly because people didn't make fun of them they would say stuff. Right in front of him and he would just you know pretty much brush it off and. Be quiet about it but it was obvious it was obviously done all the time. I remember people saying stuff as he walked down the hall. Calling him any monster whatever they could think of him much. You know just kids being mean I guess. And where were you when all of this. I was going to school and I wasn't involved in that part of it. I did see and I observed to happen.

And generally what was your impression of Dan in those days. He seemed ok shy. I talked to him a few times he was nice. Was a nice person. He was quiet. He seemed. I don't know I was pretty shy from people who didn't seem to have a high hold a lot of self-confidence I guess cache off people. When when did you and Dan come together when did you develop. Talk about how when you develop an interest a romantic interest and then what. What attracted you to him. What still attraction to him but a lot. That has a lot of it's his drive it's his honesty. You know

the way he thinks about things. Dan sees things a lot different than the people I grew up with. You know he has a different view on things he's gone through different things and he is much easier for me to talk to you much easier for me to relate to as far as guys go he does. The guys I grew up with were not nice they did not treat the girls good he is much better in that area. You know much better with treating me with respect treating me like I'm human compared to the rest of them. You know that's a big difference there. So tell tell me who is Dan Rather go. Thank you. Somebody who's had a lot of pain and has life and a lot of confusion I think is a good person. You know I think you made a really big mistake one day that he's going to pay for for a long time but I think he's a good person I think he deserves a real chance in this world. You know I would be somebody I

think that he has the potential for that. And explain to us what what you want from this relationship and explain what the relationship is to. Play. The relationship it's pretty hard it's mostly letters talking on the phone and say we're very close friends. You know I care about him I have love and I say I do hope that we're together. I hope that we make it through this time and that everything works out. Been about three years so I think it's looking pretty good. It's hard to say. As far as our relationship I guess I wanted to be normal as normal as it can be considering all that's happened and I want to have a family someday be able to support it. You know those are basically that's what I want to life. I want to be happy.

I want him to be happy. And that could be nine years. Talk about. That's hard. Something I truthfully it's hard for me to deal with it's hard to talk about. It's easier for me if I don't pay attention to the time and just you know let the days go by if I look at calendars all the time keep thinking about how long I could be I would probably try to be crazy so. I pretty much just try to live my life the best I care about here and let the time go by and do things for myself that I need to do for my life. You know talking to Scott was you know it's hard hard thing to think about. Hard thing to deal with. Made it this far. That's pretty good. And finally I want if you could talk about what sort of support of any you get from other

friends and family and what you're what you're doing here. I'm very touchy subject for my family. I'm my dad's only child so it's pretty much on this quest that situation he's not unsupportive of it he has never really said anything bad just that he hopes that I have been making the right decision. My mom goes back and forth on it a lot. She was fine with it for the first year and then not for the second year. Now she's OK again so you really never know where she's going to be on that. But my friends have been supportive. They've been pretty supportive through the whole thing and they all kind of have their different views and their questions. You know when I do my best to answer them but for the most part they're supportive. And it's been my experience with the young man at McLaren that they tend to be a sort of an emotional roller coaster.

Yeah. I wonder of that church there if you've noticed that too and if so what effect if any it's had on the relationship. Well when his friends are down though it kind of puts stress on me because I really don't know fully what he's going through there you know I don't I don't know much about the treatment as far as you know the counseling and stuff like that I pretty much just try to be understanding to his moods you know I understand that it's not a place I would want to be you know. Close up and you know what he's been up a lot more than These days he seems to be getting better that way. He's become more optimistic over the last few years which is good. And how do you deal personally with the crime. What would Dan did to get him in there. I just you know I think it was a really big mistake you made when I was 16 years old and he's older now he's grown up by I really don't think

that was him I think that was a bunch of friends got together and they made a mistake when I something they can't take back. I know that he knows it's wrong. You know I know he knows that he's doing the time for it and I know he would never do it again. And that's what matters to me. Thank you for that question. Keep saying it's sound. It's you can look at me while I'm asking questions. Let's get this part. It sounds like you were sort of acquaintances before for the crime. And I'm wondering if you can tell me the story of how you got together and and how you felt and when you decided to become engaged in the company. OK. I had an interest in Dan before the whole crime never happened. Our little brothers have been best friends ever since like the day that they moved here. And

that's how we originally met Dan and I went to school together and we talked on occasions mostly times when our brothers had something going on our getting in trouble and. I didn't like him I liked his personality he was a nice person. And we hung out two totally different groups of people so that made it really hard for me and my friends and all the pressure that got me into probably the big difference in that area for me because I did have an interest in him for a long time it's something I probably would have pursued a lot sooner if I was more secure with myself and my friends. But I wasn't so it's just it was a direction I never totally followed. I did more as I got older and then this whole thing happened and it made things difficult. And then hundreds certainly I decided to start writing them once they got in trouble. It was a really hard thing for me to deal with.

Just the whole thing. I mean as far as his brother goes it's he was like my little brother and I felt the whole thing going with his family. And plus I had an interest in him for a long time and it was emotionally I was really up and down about the whole thing. It wasn't I wasn't happy with a lot of things that I had done and and just everything that had happened. I felt that the least I could do was be there for him and his friend. And I'm happy and I mean just like to getting rich. How did that happen. I don't know that it was over time I was over talking. I think me and dan are really compatible I think that me and him both have the willpower to make it together. You know to stay together and be strong. We learn a lot from each other. It's pretty much my best friend. You know I just I pretty much feel that I want to spend my life. But I think

that that's where I will be happiest. That's where I will be able to fill. Free enough to be myself and know that you know it's OK and safe there that's when I feel comfortable. Some of the shop staff actually even a Maclaren might get the impression that this is sort of a fantasy relationship you know because they never see you. Can you talk about that a little bit. I think a lot of people have assumptions like that. But then you have to say like what because I won't hear my question like that it's a fantasy that it's not going to be real my mom says stuff about but you know and I think really people just don't realize me and dan are a lot closer we don't we don't get the physical contact we don't get to see each other all the time but emotionally you know we are very much there for each other we are very close. Talk all the time I mean you know I'm depending on that part of the relationship and our friendship. I mean.

I think that it's really strong. I think it's something that will last and I think it's something that's really worthwhile you know. Now when they when they see you on television and profile in silhouette. We're not going to be able to explain why you're not wanted to be identified. Why it's important to you that you know it so you're going to have to explain that to us now. Why you why you chose not to be identified. I would say mostly for my family's sake just because you know I don't want to I'm sorry again they want to hear my question so you have to start it with. I'd prefer not to be identified so I preferred not to be identified mostly for family issues just I don't want to cause any problems more than have already existed it's not an easy thing for my parents to deal with. So and say most of it's just to protect them you know to not. Have to deal with other stresses that it could bring along.

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