Campaign 1978, Governor, Republican; Republican Primary; Robert Ray, Donovan Nelson?

PDA public affairs special report. Campaign 78. The republican. Chair is Deeble Good evening. The most hotly contested races in the Republican primary this year are for U.S. senator and lieutenant governor. The candidates involved in those races are acting as one Republican Party strategist phrased it like a group of thoroughbred horses clustered in the final turn before the stretch. Well that's perhaps an exaggeration but with one exception all the candidates are going full bore and heading down to the wire before next Tuesday's vote. They're trying to raise some very desperately trying to raise money for last minute media blitzes. They're barnstorming the state now trying to ferret out possible supporters and they've begun to escalate their attacks on each other. That's in violation of the Republican Party's 11th commandment. Tonight we're going to be looking at the campaigns of three people running for the Republican nomination for U.S. senator and three people running for the Republican nomination for lieutenant governor. Now when we do this so we're going to be following the same guidelines that were used

last night that is reporting on the candidates in alphabetical order and a lot of equal time for each candidate in this campaign. We'll be talking about their issues their media and again their money. And after that we're going to be chatting about the overall strength of the Republican Party with the person who's going to be in charge of its fortunes after the primary election that's state party chairman Steve Roberts. The first campaign that we're going to be looking at tonight has been dominated in recent weeks by a person who is not even a candidate for the office that state his name is Robert Ray. And the races for the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate are now in that race has been widely perceived that the governor's candidate is Iowa commerce commissioner Morris of an Austrian novena strength frequently refers to his ties with the governor even though the governor has remained neutral in that race. One of the nostrums opponents Roger Jepson ignores those claims and the other candidate that's Joseph 44 year old attorney from Indianola resents them.

I would say the day that was the earliest declared candidate for the nomination his campaign has not been taken seriously by either the press or his own party. The press labeled him the underdog from the start and last March the Republican National Committee seemed to dismiss him out of hand when it contributed $5000 to then his only opponent MORRIS But since then has continuously worked to turn the rebuff to his own advantage. He argues that the Republican National Committee was engaging in kingmaking. He further argues that the brand is illegitimately riding on Ray's coattails and that some people not named are trying to buy the election. He uses every opportunity to capitalize on his so-called underdog status and tries to identify himself with common ordinary Iowans. Let me make an illustration. You're telling that some people came to Washington to talk to producers I didn't talk to the farmers I didn't talk to anyone and I want to find out what you sell. They went back to

Washington and are developing a policy that's going to affect all of us. Now recently I had the same type of kingmaker thing happen to me where I found out I received a letter from a politician out in Washington. Saying that he knew all these things about my campaign that you know I had no more contact from that man. He didn't call me at any time to say me. He didn't ask me about anything but yet he drew a conclusion and then upon that conclusion he gave someone else a candidate 5000 out of the same type of logic you know apply. And this is why I'm in the raids I think in this campaign Detroit stresses that he is not a professional politician. He is a grass roots effort. But I look at his financial disclosure statement indicates that his grassroots support is rather slim. In fact all of the candidates contributors share the same last name trollish. Despite the fact that Patricia's personal net worth is over a half million dollars. He is not one of the

big spenders in this race his budget is going to tell you that does not include television Fox only several radio and newspaper ads since January 1st he has raised just over twenty thousand dollars and spent just over 18000 claiming the voters will respect a candidate who doesn't spend excessively in such an inflationary climate. Are atrocious main issue is Dick Clark or the outgoing senator is betrothed always refers to courting to cark has not represented the best interests of Iowans. And here is other maid issues are government spending and government regulation he wants to cut. Claiming that then the free enterprise system can cure inflation and unemployment. There is one issue besides the governor in this three way battle is that of idiology primarily Roger Jefferson's idiology the so-called conservative or right wing views being espoused by the former lieutenant governor from Davenport. As everyone knows by now when Richard Turner decided not to enter the running for the U.S. Senate

Roger Jepson did and immediately thereafter telegram to Dick Clark asking him to vote against the Panama Canal treaties from the start he kept his sights on the incumbent saying that when he began his campaign last March Dick park was out of step with the common sense thinking of most Iowans. Throughout the campaign Jepson has for the most part raised above the intra party criticism raised by his two opponents. He disagrees with the charges that he's too conservative for the nomination saying that his three previous successful statewide election campaigns should give Iowans a good idea of where he stands on the issues. His basic criticism of Clark's voting record which Jepson says is too liberal. And he says that his candidacy gives us an alternative to what Jepson calls big spending and big bureaucracy government was asked about his campaign on the press on this network and said that there were three reasons Republicans should support his candidacy. Well one of the reasons I mentioned earlier that I think will be

as a as a judgment criteria for casting their ballots in June the Republican primary voters voters will look at those records if they have one and of course we do we have a successful record having won two statewide elections we never lost a statewide election. You had a very tough primary. And still it was a three way primary when I ran for lieutenant governor in 68 and so through a primary now for Senate I also had a three way primary and I ran for senator and I had a three way primary and I ran for county supervisor. So the way primaries are not new. And the vote that the Republican voters in the end on June 6 will look at a candidate on the basis of experience. We feel we've had is being senator and lieutenant governor on the basis of electability we've got a track record. I mean no one single issue that would help them decide between you and more a broader issue. One of the ways that Jepson is ensuring that the Republicans you know I will

realize that he's the best candidate is by spending money a lot of money and his campaign is heavily media and direct mail oriented. He has raised nearly 130 thousand dollars since the first of the year more than four times that of his main opponent. And he spent nearly $100000 much of that for paid television time. It also went for sophisticated polling and campaign consultant operations and for the services of a conservative direct mail wizard in Virginia who prepared and mailed 100000 of these letters in which New Hampshire governor Meldrum Thompson urged fellow conservatives to send money to help defeat a senator who voted to give away our Panama Canal 13 years ago the person who is known as one of the top conservatives in Iowa Republican politics. The person who ran Barry Goldwater's campaign and I won 1064 is the same person today that saying that Roger Jepson is too conservative for mainstream Iowans his name Morris Fanaa Strand.

He now calls himself a reconstructed conservative. Says the main issue facing Iowans of the decade ahead is energy an issue be fitting but Australians dual role a senatorial candidate and a commerce commissioner as well as an official energy advisor for Governor Reagan. Is used both connections strongly throughout the campaign. For example have all been asked Rand agrees with his two opponents about the need to handle government spending. He says the best way to do it would be to cut U.S. oil imports and strengthen domestic exports thereby equalizing our balance of payments strengthening the dollar and to curbing inflation. It says the fact that the dollar has declined dramatically in the last six years is quote an indictment of Dick Clark and the other ignoramuses with whom he shares office. Earlier this year I will press on this network. When I asked Rand told why he's running for the nomination I think he's done an awful lot of things. I've been watching him for five years and been doing some research into his voting record of the past few weeks and it seems to me that generally that he adopts a

position that provides some temporary comfort without giving any in any long term consideration to these in the interests of our people. For example he even roots for a higher minimum wage for teenagers without recognizing the effect that has on unemployment teenagers. He recommends continued price control on American produced energy without recognizing that that results in a more importation of energy. I think the average Iowan. Understand that of them same Arab states cut us off that have cut us off four times before they take 18 percent of our oil supply with them. And compared to that happening I know of no serious consequence you could compare with and we are literally helpless in the event that happens and there is no mechanism we can create within the state of Iowa that will insulate our people from the unbelievable hardship that would appear. I think what I've been telling them that story for several months I think they understand it. Shortly after he began the campaign of an Austrian said he thought it would take about 170000 dollars to win the primary. But based on financial disclosure statements released last week it looks as if the last

ran will fall far short of that goal. As of May 20th he had raised just over $30000 and spent just over 26000. He was quoted recently as saying that he desperately needs to raise $30000 in the next few days so that they can purchase commercial media time to try to counteract the Jetson's expense of television but also says that despite the slow start of his fundraising efforts statewide organization is strong perhaps because of that the Nostrand has in the past week been trying to make the tacit indorsement of Governor rape a little more visible. He says that he doesn't want gray to win the race for him but he once said if people have any questions about Ray's choice for the nomination they should call the governor. The position of lieutenant governor is often seen as having very little power and the office has often been considered politically important only because it's been viewed as somewhat of a stepping stone to the governorship. But there is more to it than that. First and tonight Governor can exert considerable

influence over the legislative process by merely presiding over the Senate. And then if he or she belongs to the majority party in that chamber the lieutenant governor can also wield little more clout in making committee assignments. Now in addition although not allowed to vote on regular matters that attend a governor can vote to break ties in the Senate. Now that's a prospect that could be important this time because if the Senate Democrats and Republicans are divided evenly as some people think they might be after the election then it would be very important. Well it's clear now that the Republicans in this campaign recognize the importance of those factors particularly that stepping stone because all of them are stressing their ability to become governor if Robert Ray wins re-election to another term and then doesn't complete it. Now our coverage of the lieutenant governor candidates tonight will be based primarily on a five candidate debate held recently in Anthony. And we're going to begin with a look at the campaign of Terry Branstad. Considered the most conservative of all the candidates Branstad is 32 years old an

attorney who has served in the Iowa House for the past six years is a very well organized candidate whose campaign has the backing of the granddaddy of all Iowa conservatism. Former Republican congressman H.R. groups for the past four months breasted has been crisscrossing the state at a frantic pace meeting people in small restaurants throughout Iowa conducting what he calls a cafe campaign is strength appears to be in the rural areas of the state and wherever he goes including the debate in and county where there are stresses the need for a healthy agricultural and business climate Croyle while we've got to have a healthy business an agricultural climate during my service in the legislature. I have worked towards that again. And I believe that if you look on the record and look at the voting record of the. And how the candidates and the bills that they have authored and sponsored you will see that my record on both agriculture and business has been tops. I voted in help passed a bill to eliminate the personal property tax on livestock. The phase out of personal property tax on farm machinery and business inventories which was a very unfair

tax. We've taken three steps down that process. There's now been a two year interruption and we hope to complete it. I supported productivity for farmland something that was badly needed. I also supported limitations on valuations for both residential and farm property in order to reduce the share of the total tax burden being paid by property tax. I was a co-author and helped pass a bill increasing inheritance tax exemptions from 40 to 80 thousand and Branstad has easily I would raised and outspent his two opponents in the women taking in nearly $70000 since the first of the year including twelve hundred of his own money. And a $20000 loan from his uncle. His campaign report also indicates heavy expenditures for commercial media which we'll talk about later in this program because of his conservatism Branstad is often asked if he thinks Robert Ray will be comfortable having him as a running mate. Branch did reply is that he's not a rubber stamp for the governor. He would compliment a raid ministration if both were elected.

That theme the ability to get along with Robert Ray if he's elected runs even stronger throughout the campaigns of the other two candidates for the Republican nomination. Look at the campaign of Hansen. Hansen is a 10 year veteran of the Iowa legislature who says that in that time he's been quote privileged to work with Bob Ray and the Republican leadership team in the general assembly. Likewise his overall campaign stresses he's worked inside the legislative process. Hansen says that his positions of leadership in both the House and the Senate and his experience as a businessman in Cedar Falls add up to what he calls a commonsense background of moderate Republican politics. Have you noticed his campaign last November and Anthony recently he listed the reasons why he thinks he should be the Republican's choice next Tuesday. And so I know what Governor Ray's programs are all about and I have fought for them and pushed them. I know what the Republican minority has stood for and I was a senator for the last four years and have worked for those goals as well.

It's not just that you have that kind of experience in terms of raw numbers because I guess anybody could wait out 10 years. But it's more difficult when you have to do it in the legislature. But it's more important to say that Bill Hansen has more than 10 years of legislative experience because I think you want to look at what a person has done during that time. So not only has he been chosen as a committee chairman in both chambers and chosen on two different occasions by his fellow Republican senators as an assistant leader he has worked in the area doing something about declining enrollment. He has worked on the school aid for long time and to take these messages to Iowans hands has been traveling in a state of the last six months in a forward van with a railroad train type platform built on the rear end and says says that the Whistle Stop van as he calls it is a symbol of conveying his interest in listening to as many Iowans as possible. Since the first of the year he's raised and

spend less money than either of his two opponents for the nomination taking in just over 35000 dollars as of May 20th and spending just over 34000. He has chided the Democratically controlled legislature on occasion for spending too much on state programs and we're spending too much on interim legislative sessions. If elected Hansen says that he will make legislative efficiency and cost cutting his top priorities in office. There's one candidate who doesn't agree that states that he has been too high and has been quoted as saying that all the talk the Democrats spending the way the Republican created surplus amounts to unadulterated b.s.. His name is Bryce Oakley. Of the three candidates seeking the nomination Oakley is trying perhaps the hardest to run on Robert Ray's coattails. The former state representative from Clinton stresses repeatedly that he's a team player and says that the best person for the job of the 10 a governor is someone whose philosophies and priorities dovetail with those of Robert

race. He claims that if elected he would be an activist lieutenant governor and says that one of his first priorities would begin bringing what he calls good management to the legislative process like his two opponents. Oakley spent much of his time in Anchorage telling why he was most qualified for the job. First of all you know with experience at age 41 I've had 17 years of success both in my profession as a lawyer and in business concerns in my hometown of Clinton. I've been a lifelong Republican I've spent 24 years working within the Republican Party. I think I've felt more offices and attended more conventions than they have the other candidates running for this office. I've served in all three branches of state government. The Judicial the legislative and the executive in addition to serving on a school board. And I think in the four years that I served on the Island House of Representatives I have perhaps performed achieved a record that it

sometimes takes 10 years to put together. I like to look at the public negotiations law. That I call authored. I like to look to the Iowa Adoption Act which I coauthored the Iowa Energy Act which I call this 41 year old attorney got an earlier start in the race than did either of us to oppose it. He boasts of having traveled more than 24000 miles in the last eight months and is generally considered to be running well in the eastern part of Iowa. This is the first of the year. Oakley has raised thirty eight thousand dollars bringing his total amount to more than forty three thousand dollars by May 20th. He had spent all but three hundred forty four dollars of that money. Much of it for paid media which he hopes to use to overcome a name recognition problem in areas outside of eastern Iowa. The three candidates for lieutenant governor that you just saw you can see again this coming Sunday in a little more depth at that time when we question all of them on the press. Now throughout

both of our special programs last night of the Democratic Party primaries in tonight's program of the Republicans we've been making strong references of the fact that this year paid commercial media is playing a very strong role in the primary election far stronger in fact than it has in the past last night. For those of you who weren't watching at the time we pointed out that any large expenditure for commercial media in a primary election is very risky primarily because when you pay for either television or radio time especially television you're paying to reach an audience that's far larger the number of people who are actually going to the polls. Except for Joseph Byrd trolls who is purchasing only radio and print ads the candidates that we've just covered tonight don't seem to be very worried about taking that risk. They're taking the risk according to a person who knows about all six candidacy is because they feel a need to shotgun information about their candidacies to any voter that they might have missed with their specific rifle approaches and day to day campaigns now because the paid advertisement

are such an important part of this primary. We thought that you'd like to see what the media cost to produce or to make and then what they cost to actually get on the air. The figures that you'll see on the screen will not in all cases reflect the total amount of money though that's been spent to date for these commercials. Now that's because the financial reporting requirements require the candidates only to tell us what they spent prior to May 20th. And many campaign staffers say off the record that they waited until after that date to purchase substantial amounts of radio and television time. Now whenever we list the costs we'll identify their sources of being either the campaign disclosure report the official report or campaign staff estimates will look at the advertisement in alphabetical order beginning first with a radio spot for Joseph Birch roach. Job or trollish are two most pressing problems as a nation are constantly rising prices for inflation and high taxes. They come from too much government spending Congress and only Congress can print money and raise taxes to pay for spending. When he lectured us Senator

Mr. Burt Roche What are you going to do about it. Send me to Washington as your senator and I will reduce spending so we can stop inflation and reduce taxes paid for by burritos for Senate. B e r t r o c h e ry Jepsen talks to Iowa's farmers. I can assure you having a brother out of a farm and being born raised on the farm. Not only listen I would hope that I would have continually put as to what the real life is back here and what really needs to be done. Back at worst and as far as any assistance to farmers we need Rajat Jepson strength leadership and courage of the United States Senate. Raja Jepson the right Republican for Iowa. Who goes along with the coder programs more than any other senator Dick Clark from Iowa. Listen to more of an Austrian Republican for Sen.. With all respect Jimmy Carter is it right for Iowa that often Iowa has two Democratic senators. I'm a Republican. It's a question of balance.

I've been Bob Raes commerce commissioner for seven years. If I don't like anybody it will be Bob Ray. I when he's a senator who will put Iowa first more of an Austrian Republican a voice the Senate needs to hear it. Here's me Senator Hansen tell our viewers why you feel Bill Hansen is the number one choice in the Iowa poll. Well the voters know that there's no substitute for experience and Bill Anson is the only candidate with 10 years of experience in our legislature including leadership responsibility. And I think some people prefer a businessman too but they especially like the fact that for

the past four years I have new preside over the Senate and worked with Governor a as part of the leadership team. The answer is simple why put a stranger in the chair when Bill Henson's been there. When governor race signed into law many of the important cornerstones of this Republican administration often honored for helping with that leadership was state representative Bryce Oakley Bryce Oakley has been recognized for leading the passage of Iowa's Energy Act. Oakley has coauthored a number of re accomplishments on the House floor working with fellow legislators and outgoing lieutenant governor aren't you. Oakley where the action is. Governor a it is there's a good working partner in his leadership. I have been and I will look forward to more good leadership. Rice or great lieutenant governor. One Republican strategist told us that because of the reliance on media in this primary Iowa politics is now become in his words hard nosed big time stuff. What makes you wonder after all this heavy spending and the division within the party now at a very hard fought campaign.

What's going to be the strength of the Republican Party coming out. Well I asked that question tonight we have Steve Roberts with us who is chairman of the Iowa Republican Party he's been talking here with Norm Sandler of United Press International. Let me join the conversation. Steve and ask you've got a spirited primary contest going on here now in the Republican Party that's going to. Do you think turnout a lot of voters and what will that do what does that mean if you have a big turnout. Well we think it generates enthusiasm Dean for the for the whole election process this year we've seen a lot of excitement a lot of people involved in not only traditional Republican workers but new people becoming involved in the party in these various primaries. And we think all that looks good for the fall. We think the momentum will carry right on. I think there's there's no question about a lot of enthusiasm a lot of interest but. Isn't there also a chance for a very serious division after the primary we've heard a lot of talk about that the ideological splits that are occurring you got two conservative candidates

Branstad Jepson running very strong in their respective races all kinds of dire warnings about division within the party. What's going to happen after June 6. I think the party is going to be very unified after June 6th I think there's a feeling with this enthusiasm of a desire to be unified in a recognition that if we're going to win as a party in this state we've got to be unified. We're number three in registration we have to have a strong showing this year and to do that we have to have the Republican Party together going into the fall elections so we can go from there to appeal to independents and right thinking Democrats but to appeal to those people do. Can you appeal to them on ideological grounds. Is there a chance here that as more of an Austrian warns about the Senate race that that you're. You've got to narrow a focus on the electorate in the fall. I don't think that we have that narrow focus I think the issues that all of our candidates are talking about are issues that appeal to the all of while

the question of course you get in the question Senate race lieutenant governor but let's say in the Senate race to talk about inflation the talk about Dick Clark being the most liberal senator in the United States Senate when I was not that liberal the concerns of big government overregulation I think these are issues that appeal to all Iowans and will be appealing in the fall and cause them to vote Republican. Last night you may have been watching when the Democratic chairman your counterpart Ed Campbell came on and said that he relishes situation in which the Jepson and Branstad would have to run on the same ticket with Robert Ray. Well if he likes it you must think that might have some problems to it. Well I don't know frankly as far as I'm concerned. I have. A great deal of respect for all of the candidates that we have running in the primary and I'm enthusiastic about them and I think that regardless of who wins the primary whether it be the end Senate primary Lieutenant Governor we're going to have a very strong ticket going into the fall and I think it's the kind of a ticket that will be appealing to lots of people.

Is Dick Clark your number one target this fall is is is that the goal that the Republican Party hopes to achieve in November. Well we have a lot of goals. Normally we certainly don't want to take for granted what we already have which we think has been very beneficial and helpful to Iowa that is the governor of the statewide offices. We have a great interest in in the legislature but certainly Dick Clark beating Dick Clark ranks right up there among our top priorities. Depending upon who wins that nomination of an Austrian Jepsen or trollish is that going to be a different campaign against Senator Clark. I think the kinds of themes that have been in the campaign are going to be pursued and then and there will be a more. Everybody will then be coming together to go after Clark and I don't think the campaigns necessarily will will be that that different more of a nostrum for example if he were to be the winner would probably continue to emphasize energy. But I'm certain as

he has done in the primary get into other issues as well. Roger Jefferson's approach seems to be more you know more issues but they're all going after general themes about Clark. I think we've seen that in the debates in their joint appearances. One of the themes and the themes that the theme that the Republican Party brought up very early in this campaign is the fact that Dick Clark is liberal that he's tied to Jimmy Carter's record. Does that really give you a hold on Clark that you can use to defeat him in the fall. I think it's it's. Partially it's a helpful issue it is certainly can't be the only issue but. But Dick Clark can't have it both ways. Is he for Jimmy Carter or is he not and there's no question that that Carter's popularity has gone down here in Iowa and soul as well as Clark's And I think the recognition that Clark is still liberal has to have an effect I mean this is not New Yorker or eastern states.

Clark has the best voting record for Jimmy Carter of any Democrat of any senator in the Senate and I say do you perceive Steve we're talking about liberalism and conservatism that there is more of a conservative bent now in this election overall the electorate. I think that the that Iowa is a moderate to conservative state in its in its electorate and its people and I think that Clark simply does not represent that feeling in Iowa I think he's been able to get away with his positions because of his. Public Relations effort is media things and and so on. I might add a taxpayer's expense. Let's take a broad overview of the primary campaign so far Stephen. Do you think that that Iowa politics is changing is it getting more. Are we getting more hard fought races are people turning into the professional politicians campaigners earlier in the year than they would before not singing all their money to the general singing a lot of money to the primary.

Well I think in the Republican primaries which I'm most to experienced with nationally you have a situation where on the loot side as far as the lieutenant governor that they've all been working hard on Republican regulars and they the race is so close that they don't want to they don't want to lose any possible extra voters so they're good taking a shotgun approach going into the media thing in the Senate race you had candidates that came out relatively late relatively late for a primary. More of an Austrian announcing in early March job atrocious announcing in January and Jepson in late March and therefore they had to do a lot of catch up to get the their name out there and the recognition that they're running for Senate. Let me ask you what you think all that money is going to do for the party in the fall. Last night at Campbell said the Democrats could pick up five more seats in the state Senate this November give them a 31 vote majority in the Senate. What do you think the Republicans are going to be able to accomplish in the legislature. Well we have strong confidence in taking control of the house we've looked at our targeting and we think we have 50 to 60 seats that we can take which

would give us a majority in the Senate it's going to be a lot closer and that could mean more jobs. Sorry Steve I got to interrupt because we're out of time. That concludes our two part special no on the campaign's seventy eight Democrats last night in the Republican primaries tonight. I want to thank Steve Roberts of the Republican Party for coming by tonight and also norm Sander of United Press International. And remember next Sunday at 5 o'clock all three candidates for the Republican nomination for lieutenant governor will be our guests and I will press until then for IPN public affairs I'm Dean Borg. Thank you for joining us tonight. Damn thing to stop him being a Republican. Wright. Was a public affairs with

the I was public broadcasting. All the all. In. All the president Carter was in the quad cities at this hour winding up a four hour visit which started when he arrived aboard the Delta Queen about 8:30 this morning. Although the paddle wheel both duff and coders remained on board to a line across the unknowns to rival time.

Then came down the gangway to be greeted by a crowd estimated at over 7000 The crowd began gathering about 6:00 this morning despite a light mist and fog. The weather forced an abbreviation of the water show that had been schedule free coffee and donuts were handed out though as the crowd waited. When the covers came off the boat the president walked over to the crowd of phones to deliver is no familiar energy program urging the crowd to help him get Congress to write down his proposal. President. This is better than going to the ground for a round of handshaking and personal remarks before moving on to nearby radio station KSTP just across the tracks from where the Queen is gone and the radio station has been 45 minutes on a telephone talk show Mr. President. First caller. Mr. CARRO Vero rock and I were just back. From there was a motorcade and a short jaunt to the home of Mary Ellen Chamberlain of Grand Avenue Chamberlain sponsored a reception for civic leaders and politicians. The president left there about 11 o'clock and traveled by motorcade to the John Deere headquarters and

should be leaving their minute on route back to the Delta Queen which is scheduled to leave about 1:00 PM. Crowds are still there waiting for one last look at the cars before they continue their down river journey. Members of the crowd had mixed reactions about the president's visit. A crowd estimated at three to five thousand persons had begun gathering before 6:00. Some of them arriving just about as President Carter was getting off the boat at Lock and Dam 14 to do a bit of jogging at 5 a.m. Secret Service agents were augmented by that important place in the county deputies in controlling the crowd blocking streets getting politicians and others where they needed to be a Dixieland band led by Dr. Allan Hathaway Boyd's parents during a long wait for the vote. Then the long wait for the president. Was nine before the president Rosalynn and Amy came down the carpeted gangplank from the Queen and cheers from the crowd first family moved along the perimeter of the throng of curious supporters shaking hands and

exchanging comments. President spoke briefly renewing his call for Americans to do what they can to reduce dependence on foreign oil. Mr. Carter had earlier announced a 30 million dollar federal program designed to encourage conservation on the use of renewable energy sources. Yeah amplified on that as he moved a radio station KSTP TV just across the railroad tracks from the Delta plane. During the course of a 45 minute talk show the president dealt with a long list of questions submitted earlier. Most of them centering on energy. But with this it would be a threat to our basic nation and national security caused by excessive dependence on foreign oil. It's hard for the average American to see I don't understand you know all about oil and the two things we can do about it want to save energy to eliminate waste to conserve all we can and every American can help you and the other was to create increased American production of energy.

While the president spoke the broadcast was piped to the crowd outside which now included a number of federal workers with placards protesting the president's five and a half percent pay gap for federal employees and a proposal to have government workers pay for parking. Other signs in the crowd protested nuclear power. One child held a sign saying I like Amy's dad. The president tied the nation's economic health to its energy appetite saying when we import oil we also import inflation and unemployment. Steve drainer talked with members of the crowd passengers aboard the Queen on the presidential journey to follow the president to a reception at the home of a supporter. Right.

It was developed by dear scientists to study the potential use of agricultural residue materials such as corn cobs and painted as a source of energy. As a president and first lady legendary chairman William he would explain the workings of the experimental machinery which produces a low grade gas by burning the residue material like a basket of fuel into the machinery. Carter in a few words of encouragement for Dare's efforts and as I've said many times the greatest we have strategically. The future of. Peace throughout the world are the people productivity

utilized for the benefit of the American genius for the future. After some more palm pressing in the nearby crowd the Carters were presented with a deer lawn tractor and trailer for use at the White House. Carter remarked he and daughter Amy would definitely give it a try. And there was again into the limousine and a motorcade back to the riverfront. John Barrowman has more about the first family's departure. The presidential motorcade arrived back at the levee behind schedule the president able to talk only briefly with the crowd after a brief unscheduled stop in Bettendorf to talk with persons along the road. President participated in a brief ceremony marking him as an honorary member of the davenport sailing club then bought for a quick stop at Loch 15 ended his quad city visit. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Farmers now have plenty of fuel for the farmers for the spring this fall and next spring and also will the price come down to help the farmers out along with along with their price of grain. Thank you. The answer to your first question is that there will be enough fuel for farmers. Careful about how much you use. Don't waste fuel. And if we have success in the Congress in getting our

energy program through my guess is that both these questions will be answered. Yes. So my answer to you is there will be an adequate supply of fuel for the farmers in the harvest season this fall in the planting season next spring. The answer to your other question will you know just supplies be cheaper. The answer unfortunately is no. It's not good for present to mislead the people and I cannot tell you that now or in the future that the price of oil or other energy will be going down. Inevitably the price of fuel in the future is going to go up because the demand is growing and the supplies are becoming more scarce from the bottom of my heart. But to reach these objectives you're going to is demanded by the people as passed by the

Congress and it goes into effect in spite of that though. Since I've been in office we've had a reduction in the number of federal employees. Just a small reduction 2000. And I hope that I can finish this and not have any increase at least in the number of federal employees. When you start asking Americans where do you want to cut. It's a very difficult question to answer our home. And my question is this on the news on the radio last night they said something that we were selling oil to Iran now. Yeah.

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