Our People & Mother Earth; Treaties and Traditions. Part 2
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Resources is a word with many meanings. A resource is literally defined as computer. This can take many forms. Wealth can be measured in natural resources money property and people to name a few. The reservation its people and ceded lands offer unlimited amounts of resources. KW offers you the opportunity to learn more about these in the next 30 minutes. Welcome to our people and Mother Earth. This is part two of treaties and traditions in the first program you heard from Delbert Frank Louis pick Jr. and Jody Khalifa.
Delbert Frank spoke of traditional laws. Can that change your traditional originally traditional law. I've been here the first and that and on and keeping the traditional law that evolved here. You could not change it because a lot of us and a lot of that law was released as a law and it is and that it was for not for us to change you could not change your religion. That's of the famine for salmon religious. Festival will always have every year and I don't like Huckleberry you know acrobatics of that phrase I go bare feet because I have them and there are three and there are some roots there were those are bad traditional Rosby Odair original religious traditional law and it could not ever be changed by nobody. Newly picked junior reminded us of the relationship between management
and tradition. Trying to figure out. The relationship of Management and tradition for ourselves conceptually how do we do that. And Jodi and I sat down. I think a number of meetings and just thought out how do we do this. And one of the things we realized is that I think its traditions the unwritten laws are very very important that's how we got here that's been the foundation of our success. I say that every time I meet when Indians get together it's relational rules will apply because your laws when they come down don't have an honor tradition or rules and laws at all. What exactly is the concept of signing a treaty. Jody Kaleka tells us.
The concept of the treaty and what the treaties damns treaties came from basically two processes. One was peace making and the other was to extinguish the land title. We have the distinction of having one of the few peaceful negotiated treaties in the United States as far as war brings is concerned there's a uniqueness is that we would like to protect as a sovereign people. One of those is the status and the nature of our treaty and how it governs our relationships with other entities. Second the land ownership patterns here on the reservation less than 2 percent of our land is held by others. Indeed. In Part 2 of 2000 traditions we continue to hear about the importance
of our need for our resources and natural items that come from our force. The Warm Springs chief. I'm not too much of a huckleberry picker when I went to pick pick to go in and I was running on my drop and spill on my berries and end up with no martini berries when I got on my gotta quit being nice to get a quip in our time for everything and we did something wrong. But they important thing for me was creativity put you on dessert so a put you on the service meant to destroy you what's on the surface but live in harmony in a song that they sing before me on plant days food deserts you gotta find a food you know which ones of food you
had to learn to take care of these food water is number one. You take care of that water that water will produce and take care of the things that you don't need in my. The water is number one because the water in your body is important so you take water first and then in the free states and a good very freeze. It's important that your flowers are all right down the line of water in the forest. Salmon will be mixed deer of the mix then the roots and then the various different kind of berries huckleberries and took cherries talked to where is the most important Berry. Mukherjee Of A Mother Nature provided these foods for us out there and this is the foods that you have to go to meOh it uses the food to take care of you to foods are important because that death at their last meal and
you only put their food on the table is provided for you or for me. From nature the salmon the deer roots. Three different kind of roots should look. And then the berries huckleberries and there's also other kind of bear is the kind of roots that go on to the table. But this is the table with our last breakfast in the morning before daylight before the sun comes up when the sun comes up. The spirit arises and goes with the sun. These are the foods that you share with us the last meal if you're going to share with them. And people find that Cuba is getting harder and harder to get ahold of. When there was in that many years much alarm and things these people went out there and this is starting to get overgrown The berries are not going to come back to that
in three years. We've got another place over there that we were different places like the animals like manger put in time. You don't go back to one place and harvest everything I want. You harvest it if you harvest everything out there when the thing come back at harvest. You move to the next place but that come back. Then next year you go back to another place and you return to that the third year you had a cycle learn around too much brush coming up they had pre and have prayer services. We're going to burn this area clear it is very arrogant and it's going to be you know have a big patch here and there and that'll be there for many years. If we burn it. So then burn an area at a time and it's our brain that's bad enough from on its prey so the pre and early leave please come back in that fire and we're burning man time the rains are coming just put the fire out.
Now they answered our prayers now and that's enough when we go back there and then a few years that ratio will be good. Right place for huckleberries. They mean people took care of a lot of their own ways of taking care of them go and get the berries because it was wanted food. Mother Nature provided for us when we put you on the surface this is what these are the most variable things. This is medicine these are medicines for your body and they didn't mention as foods in the song that it will say this is medicine tarts look must you Misha this is a medicine that to keep you going to the next one until your time comes we're not going to be on this earth for ever. You're only here a short time when within that short time you that keep your body strong. So these important foods is really important to take communion when you take
them in you know be strong to carry on to the next. Next they carry on to whatever services or whatever you can to be accomplishing in doing on this earth. But do your work deserves only a short time in their lives. Terminal where you go from there. No one will open that door you are going to open a door yourself. And that's so important variances to our people when they drive home a long time ago. There would be a rotten large LMB lot that smolder and burn with a mark to lay their berries and they hydrate them and I knew we needed to hydrate him to collect him after the juice is gone in taken home when he needed it in the mix were in the theater after berries before a new modern techniques come along. Where modern We don't have to have a lot of people less interest
and want to go out there and there are several in these type of areas and get these players not realizing you know there's really in the last we don't have very many people like this guy and them take an interest in their real name. I don't look too much because I don't attend Sunday services all the time and it's really important that we are attended all of the time but when I when I can. That last come out within the songs how you must carry through and I was doing. Very free so this is not the only free state where it's like a Thanksgiving Thanksgiving like Thanksgiving is come our fall harvest a turkey and ever think well we have that in the Thanksgiving dinner and I probably freeze him in springtime we have the roots to have our Thanksgiving feast
designated women to go out into the bear's designated men to go on there's a native men there or catch the salmon and when they bring the food back they can be I mean they can't be mad when there were apparently these foods because here we are preparing them for the people to be happy that they come together live seem another winter spring is here and they get to arrive and harvest them. There are things in the cart because there is a prime time to die a time for seasons time for indices room summer farm songs on that. And that store where people kept track of a lot of that in a free don't. We're starting to lose a lot of that. Turning to modern ways and modern things when we start losing their language we start losing a lot of the things that have the meaning.
I'm glad you guys are here to sit down and understand why. Why the in the way it's important to the ending. It is really important to our people because of the ceremony not only the most important one is the ceremony of when we lose our people they mean something to us. So we take care of them in the best way they can. We don't end with the death events of two or three years later down the line when it was finally certain to continue so take care of them after that. Many people don't know how many natural items Native Americans use from the force. Jodi gives you an idea as to how many we have. Seen when we got our list of items and the question is
the chance to buy out materials. There's a cultural resource protection our guidance has given to us by the council and ordinance 68 and we'll make arrangements to have copies working at 16 available but there are there's a list of at least 48 material from an old huckleberries choke cherries elderberries Deer Hunter salmon trout sturgeon Indian herbal medicines which are probably numerous. Cedar bark Eagles while celery and his escape route wild onion wild radiant potatoes yokels pine nuts and sunflowers bears water mistletoe like mine black lichen wild rosebushes list. So there are specific items there. We're interested
in kind of going along for the map to. Some of this morning's session I kind of got it right got under my my you got maybe somebody I'm going to leave and I just wanted to make a few more comments. These are all from materials that we're interested in and we're interested in. I guess another concern is as it relates to the cultural heritage committee and the cultural resources and cultural heritage patient program. I think he will. So yes I'm looking at this whole issue of cultural resource management. Did protecting food areas sacred sites and other sites with historical significance.
Food gathering areas deal with various roots in the distal plants fish or game water quality has a role as it would relate to how prepared him. And some of the wind. This morning we got into a lot of what why are we interested from a tribe. In Maine for these. Well the winds are we talked a lot about legal a lot about moral obligations and a lot about I guess the significance of those rowdies of those resources to us as a people. But beyond that it makes environmental good sense to do it and are all important in this new thing called eco system management and equidistant management means that we need to take a look at all of the values associated with these resources and be able to manage for those. So we've all got this challenge to do business a better way.
So don't let some of the discussion would turn to well how are we going to do this. And some of the house. I would mention on their numerous occasions already management agreements. Corporate management agreements go lay out how we're going to do business a better way forward in terms of policy and from signing. Other Powers research. How are we going to do the research. Who's going to do the research how are we going to pay for. And how are we going to analyze the results. Pilot projects are reviewing many different prescriptions and how we can conduct those management prescriptions and getting making the transition because of the things that Leslie talked about well we need to tap into some of your. Education some of your experience and your knowledge. We told you what we would like and
like. Now we're going to need your help because they know how to do it. So when you look at prescriptions with their regularly scheduled prescriptions for featured species or whatever we're into our diversity richness of species that's already getting described in responding to certain episodes fire being one of those. I think last year on the lemon tire fire. I think we put it down maybe to quit going over the wildlife and I said well why did you let it burn his way and create better habitat and the cultural resource folks like well what do you just let it burn this way because it would have helped to grow production so we know that there are those going to the opportunities that maybe as controversial as it seems there may be some areas that we would want to nominate her letter bird status. Or go back in for Iran and reasons who are prescribed fire
if we've got areas of investigation or whatever infestation. If there is one we could put some prescriptions together and it would help us in retreat species management for some of these resources on those lists. A couple big ones are access management. Access for tribal members and some way of regulating other access. Again going back to the moment I fired after we found that pretty unique resource and as John Barry and I and you and a group are wiping out so it would be an opportunity to take this time and gated this road. And just let the huckleberries grew up and look at the log of this site and come back. In two years three years four years as you would to production. So there are those kinds of opportunities.
Another one that was brought up was are the expansion of the ball room letter here and I know that is something that is pending. Well he asked for water quality and water management or resource management concerns it may help to close off a large section of the ballroom water issue. But what about giving tribal members access to cultural resources in that area. That's something we need to discuss. Another issue that came up was high risk management. Do you remember the discussion we had very large about the permit system per for running through our tribal members going to be able to get into those areas you legitimately exercise their treaty rights. Well that's something we need to work on in a way that here. Peace track never access to those resources in a way that I guess it was an unnecessary advantage but a
right as could be defined by drawing an analogy to the US organisation. And 50 percent share. Another big issue. We can mitigate. Earth science we could trade more of the fairies on one issue that. We're struggling with and the market matters here EU expansion project and that's his place. HUCKLEBERRY picking is a different experience for everyone. Jerry Jim remembers the old days. There is growing just certain places they don't grow where all you see all these huckleberry bushes you don't hardly see any berries on them Bush said ARE
OUT IN THE OPEN. It's like up to a wall that's all overgrown. I said we used to pick. Tons of berries out of that area when there was trees just very small. Now you can't find a buried there at the hambone area. Hierarchy. Those trees are all overgrown there haven't been there I go to they are going to pick my battles because that's where I get them all and the Forest Service I feel over there and you know they cut down some of the trees so that Bush could get the sunlight as they grow into certain places they don't grow on every bush that's out there. And I speak of our medicines. That's growed up there were they thinking of building a new ski resort whatever
ski area. And we've been battling for this we need to keep our are in need people. On our own you need medicines because we feel this is what keeps us healthy and are in need of food. I am really. A person that comes from Pine Grove. You know we got cut off there a begin some of our roads. The farmers they don't like the Indian people going in there Negroes right on their. Under land there. And they can't go in there to begin a march. So this is why you know we battle a lot for our. Rights in our. Places where. Are in need. People used to go to the cotton time. Native Americans also use bark for various things. Brenda Scott
is very concerned about how we aren't able to obtain any for our uses. This guy with a gun for a little while I can buy so I don't know but I always said play some of the other members. I think. All of them covered quite a few things but down some of my family members are concerned about the bar. My dad Mark had no roots and different things to make up baskets with and now. As more people are coming into the area and there's a lot of economic things going on and more people moving into our country where we're all really fearful about a lot of these things you know the foods that we gather the materials that we use and and. Pollution is another thing you know. And I assume like we're always having to fight for something and I'm hoping that
our tribes and the people involved can work together you know to make something really good on this and hope that we can where it is you and you are good with us you know what I mean. And to protect these things and I think that's mainly what our comedian our tribes This worried about is the protection of these things because everything is getting lost in this world and we're really fearful that these things will be gone and what's there to be lost for ever. I read about it. The U.S. Forestry could help the Warm Springs culture and heritage committee. Jeannie Thomas speaks of how. It's not that we're trying to write is required.
I'm fortunate we have experts. Articulate. I'm. Actually I'm serious. I don't take. OK we're there
and. You've been listening to part of treaties and traditions. I'm Carol her reporting for us. You have been listening to our people and Mother Earth. This program is broadcast Sunday mornings at 8:00 and Monday nights at 7:00 on ninety one point nine FM a public radio station of the confederated tribes of Warm Springs. KW s o.
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- Our People & Mother Earth
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- Treaties and Traditions. Part 2
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- This episode is called "Treaties and Traditions, Part 2," and focuses on native tribal trends and traditions. This episode in particular features traditional music, as well as interviews with various tribal members who discuss traditional plants, such as huckleberry.
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- "Our People & Mother Earth is a weekly news magazine focusing on cultural, natural and human resources in the community of Warm Springs"
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- 1994-08-06
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Producer: Herkshan, Carol
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KWSO-FM (Warm Springs Community Radio)
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- Chicago: “Our People & Mother Earth; Treaties and Traditions. Part 2,” 1994-08-06, KWSO, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed November 21, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-204-386hdvjp.
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- APA: Our People & Mother Earth; Treaties and Traditions. Part 2. Boston, MA: KWSO, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-204-386hdvjp