The Sense of Poetry; 2; The Ecstasy. Part 1

Are. The sons of poetry an introduction into the ocean and understanding of poetry. Richards University professor and bold television look through Harvard University. On this program in the series the ecstasy by John Donne will be read and discuss. But that's all Richard. I'm taking a crime tonight which is being named. And turned and misunderstood. Oh man other friends. In Spain get it indeed you'll be surprised. It's being condemned completely opposite reasons. It's being praised to the skies again and completely opposite reasons. It's all very odd indeed. Now I'm going to take it in two installments. In the first. I'm sorry I have to buy into it. You won't get the full movement to the

point. We can't help that. I'm going to take it and make my observations. Line by line or most known and disputed will almost set them right. And then next time we'll take them to see if you see them. And it. Contrasts. All the dramatics. Next time. But that's just going to see points for people of. Different in their opinion. So you would have a chance to see this plan to read it in between. I don't want to shut it up. I want to open it up for discussion if we can. Next time I may shut it. Yes and yet in that. Most beautiful of all is that the criticism. And I have it. I suspect that the good. Do you. The value of

an interpretation. Is my own interpretation. Well I don't want to get you no way and I'll try not to leave it open. But now we take a good look at the time. The x to see. Where lock up bad. Banks fail to rest the street conniving and set to. One man. For a new approach to. The most pressing thing is the scenery. This makes sure that the bedroom. And many people feel a discomfort about this head. And how big bang doesn't look to the. Rest. But you see it's a whole bank of sin.

And besides it's going to mention again that somehow they're going to write their economic ending and it's all the fault line it's about to pound on. Now that they're sitting said to one another bass not only the one the other likes best but the best for all. And many are saying that the hope is about being so X is that's the point in their answers. But in the deepest possible sense of best it is now we're looking at the second stanza. And that's where you see even with us. Which then brings. I have been twisted and I did read doubles during.

That hand-in-hand to see so you minted A. Class together. Now I'm going to be separated with a fast. The most comforting thing of beauty editor of warmth and comfort. And just enough in the Alps a place of shelter and protection is often called. It's the next two nights that make people blink and good reason too. These were two gazing into one not the so close how do you fix them all twisted thread. It's a nice training business but these guys are very close to. When they get close enough together all that they see is. Great to be in. And they almost don't know if it's that or a polarizer and some people see and that kind of effect to me at the time these lot of us are going to be so united in that. That one.

And. Only operates as well. So. Now notice how this train is conveyed it's. Tremendous. You can bet it if you're not with a minute. So. As yet there's all the meanness to make us why. And think. To get. Us all in the problem. But to get the most separating the faces of the people and I've become able to see the glistening surface of the O in the way and the group that will. Pick images of that own hand. It's not just we can see whether or not it's more than that it's then within one another's eyes. Images of the moment of living. Now let me quote the parallel

passage of seven or eight years perhaps written before that. It's appears a kidney is internal less impressive and three see three hundred twenty two eleven. And have the. The beauty of that is in the face. The bad. No it's not. About man is it. Nor does the eye itself. That most. It's obscene. It's. Not going problem it. But I so know that with each other this form. Thank you a nation to its travel. And then you may see. It coming back six times in those two nine. It's been a deep reflection as deep as down time

is too. And many people are saying that Shakespeare didn't try it is a man may see it but he. Is maddening. And indeed. I suppose there's an attempt to make to see him in the interrogation room a great temptation and. To get back to. As pricks to equal those freight SAS friends. Which to advanced state. Gone out. Thanks and. Now first of all notice there is crucial. This prime isn't addressed. It's addressed now when you come to the critic's judgments about if you find that so

overwhelmingly important makes a great difference. Do you think the time is talking to the late not talking to the public about the name. And it to you and me not you and me that's important. But now what is this certain military doing fate suspends certain Big Three certainly off in a high atmosphere of politics and battle. There's a pinny chasing around try and see us hanging up his golden balances. To advance a spirit of self aggrandizement is it. Are they going to become president and another thing can subjugate one another and so on. There's that had. Not gone out the battle. But that to me is it won't do. There's no military to negotiate that kind of code it was situation. And. While the stars negotiate.

We now accept tattoos. All the past shows wear and we say nothing. What changed it from. The bank. Got a battlefield situation and you got to stand in this grim tombstone image. You know those two I'm Stern's great. Flat Top things. And there they are flat on their backs. On the tombs side by side with that toes. Now next on the little heads and perhaps great wraps around their necks. Stuck that all day. Well this. Is it because this battle atmosphere this struggle between them has threatened to be death. No probably not. Actually that poem in the

vision of what it really is that the rest of the way gone to oblivion. I don't know. ALEX Well better than the. Primes do quite often stop off to tell the reader that up to and if I'm right this is taking to do but I still have to read the rest. That's what next is doing here. If any of them do it and it's so bad to find that so Langley. And. Bug and. Within convenient distance to. Look at that for a moment. Language. Is something you can't. It's something they said nothing on the day. And he has to understand that. And by God and by good.

He's become online not in the sense that the body of the picture that the time is going to describe. But in the sense that he has to understand and refine so that the process of sprouting all to get the mental. And the going to hear later on about Ross. That image of him going in the. Now in that joint negotiation talks they agree fought. Straight by the rest of. That is simply this report now. And about this because I don't think it. Means that the body's been destroyed. The body is weak. Which is different. Now he dismissed it. He knew not which way because both

men both spake the same. Then it's a new take and the UK. Concoction. So often cooking process and baking are ripening. New set up. Well if I was going to explain what it means by that. That's what the problems that fall. And now what these two become one joint. So speaking together and keep an eye on this this is enormously important. The different critics next time we're going to divide because they haven't. These two both men both speak the same it's not one of them talking to both of them speaking jointly and it makes such a difference. And I'm going to express their new action the truth in this next story. It's a very full and complete say and yet is it

true. Now let me before we take the rest of the view of the accountant to say you know almost need to. Reach grab some quotes from time to Century and had it from the great source the saw's. And it isn't. Even the word vision and it's not right. It is. And thanks to. A simplification and abandonment of self. A perfect plan to you and I wish to make yourself in that to each one to play. Thank. You. Now we can go out into the. Statement of what this. Throwing tantrums.

This ecstasy found Planck's we say. And tell us what. We see by this it was not sex. We see we saw an art. What. Does the next wasn't being plex tangle that becomes clear. So. Tell us what we love the greatest of all human clearance. For watching news that we see. It was not sex. According to the Oxford Dictionary. This is the first the kind of the words sex in the most to modern sense which makes the stands out quite interesting historically doesn't it. When you think that this is the same something that sticks which gives us that you think say it rather looks as though it was the first person to use it at least in writing.

Thought a career on its hand. We say we know not what did know. We say but we did not see the moment that we were seeking. What did move what does that mean especially if we take it together with what we. Let me show you a passage from Plato's Republic and learn from metaphysics which helped enormously. You know that Socrates is speaking. When it comes to the good. Everybody wants the thing itself and not only isn't good enough for anyone. This they and the good is what every soul is looking for separate so does the feeling in some way want to test but not able to see clearly enough.

Now. To the good that everybody all the time is really pursuing now. There is a move. Which moves without being. Being eternal. And the object of thought and the object to. Move on that they move in this way. They move without being moved. Metaphysics there is nothing to do. Now remember this when we get light in the 70s. So beauty is truth. To build and it showed an admission. There so. And the object of. True. Beauty.

They're the same. Well now we come back since the accident so you can tell us what we know. If that makes us see what did move. About. That's all severals can make things they know not well. Makes stuff mixed again and makes both. Speech and this and that. Several So apart from one another. They know not what they have in them when they become when they know it's there. It's their seats there. Each is. Now welcoming. The concept. In. Six has a deep pit your significance. That is nothing with

which we can better come. The mis take you now on the mystic union. With it in it. And then with all that is about it's in and it had been in the self a blip in the Pentagon. The law that he. Is. The. Right not a minus maintenance. The problem goes on. A single transfer. The strength is all which befall wells and. Can't. Read doubles till and. When with why not now though so they named their mates to so. That which then start to.

Defend the loan and come. Through. In Terry an enemy it's to serve to lungs. But which. The cost each reflects the. Defects of Londoners. The defects of the teeth of them is ignorance of this prime. Ignorance of what we are. When it comes into being. We then. Do you know what we are composed and made. So the atom is if we grow. No change can in. Assamese. And there's room for a lot of conjecture about that. I mean I know it but perhaps it is the new who joined to make up this soup.

Who cares. They are individuals and cannot be broken. And now comes the turning point to a place in which all the differences of opinion chiefly Stan. Has. Cracked. But alas so long so it is. Why do we fall. They are not we. We the intelligence is. In this. Now look at that band. Some people want to take the stance of India. Put up with. Tolerate. And then it simply. Got the judgment that it's the rest. And others take it as. A control room refrain abstain from music and then you knowing. You've got to choose which

you're taking thought to make the rest make the best since you can. Not tell one another. They have to be taken. The intelligence is the spirit and that's just to make astronomy. Each of the nine concentric sphere has its intelligence and gently. And if you used to try to have a joints. Yeah they have their bodies and the intelligence and it is there and. We know them. Thanks. About these because they did us through. Force is. The same. To us. Nor to us but. It was an example that I bought this week too. To see you and talk to. The new you did force is saying to

us forces that just say that same sort of. Everything including. And then not dross not something to be thrown away. Well now we are neighbors. It's become so much stronger shop than it could be. Next. Manhattan's not so dim Prince so sewn into the SO. Made it to about. That's medieval physics people didn't think this could influence man except doing something to the end they didn't believe in actions and distance. Now as I. Lay about to began it was. Because I need to knit that

no which makes a man. Maybe even physiology and animals but it's generated by the thought necessary of the body and sewed together at the body. And so we go on so that you must not lose this and to affections and a faculty is which sense may reach a great prince in prison. Now this is the climax of the crime. This is what we have been doing to you next time. Which. One of these effects and the fact is. Well we might say that the emotions and sentiments their feelings. The impulses to help and protect. Them and are not of that sort of thing. And take the other nine which may reach and apprehend you create it both

ways. The phone must descend to the emotions. In order to reach the senses. Oh no wonder the senses may reach it. And it is this intermediary thing what we would call the sentiments the feelings. THAT COME AND unit. And that is the climax in many ways of the surname when those three things are together the great prince can be freed from prison. Don't you hear a kind of final ring about. The great prince in person. That seems to want to hear the climax hears the cry until the summit of time when the rest is close. To a body is turned We then but so we may look. This Mr. isn't so stupid. Not to get the book.

To about this we've got to lose the meaning for about names which were drawn up. But oh not so fast. So why do we. Make good read desperately as you choose to read the poem and by. What we have to do is to make the phone hang together that's when that's possible. And if some love such as we have. Let him stay with us. He's from sea change in the news. Now some people are very much shocked and dismayed and outraged this hypothetical spectate. Sort of peat thing they call him. Are you shocked. Note that he's had to think things that monotonous so he has to see things which are invisible.

All I can say is sometimes intended to have returned and this hypothetical spectator can't help it. Next time we'll take the time and you see how what a difference not breaking it down into snippets how it becomes unified moving dramatic thing that men can change movement or not. And then you'll understand why people have taken it in such many many different ways and I'll show you why and different. This has been the second in the series of poetry an introduction to the appreciation and understanding of poetry with Richards University professor television like Harvard University. The series is presented the Lowell Institute co-operative broadcasting in the studios of WGBH

TV Boston. Produced and directed by Louis Barlow. But its next programme Professor Richards will complete this discussion John Donne's their ecstasy. This is National Educational Television.