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But I just think it's you know have it she got it. It's calculation. So there's no question that. Mrs. Collins. Yes. Alex Haley says that you are so much more than MALCOLM SISTER He said you were Malcolm's protect her his confidant. Tell me about your relationship with Malcolm X and that you. Yeah I'm the dumb guy least in tune with Constantine. I was thinking about last name and then Malcolm was real with one phony thing about him. Neither did real and me Guy. And Manson in Michigan to come and stay with me. He wanted me to know he was real. You know I'll never do anything to her jail. Never. If I do anything good you need to tell me. And you know I did today can you you beat me. I mean it
gives you put in here that they would you have ever had to do that. Oh no no. I have been man and have. But he would make up for you or go out of his way to make up a wrong doing and he thought he had gone down a lot of time to think you've done something that in my book where it be just that when I won to be a man back like a man talk like a man grew like a man he would even move. But he soon grew up and he was seven years old when he came to live with yes he was a little scary thing that you do every day or so he come to one of the most your most to teach
India how could you see in him than the man he became. I saw him oh I had to live another 10 years in the world. Michael Michael I saw him after my blood let me concentrate on the amount of and I did not talk about it. Danny would take him and they go but the damage that we would they call a preacher. He was a preacher. They called him the Reverend little and he would take me home with them or Malcolm a come back and call dad speak. It would seem to me that I could have it handed on the moon. It was cute who I had enjoyed any type of move.
But Malcolm was the type of person you won't meet every day never you would meet him pass fail like 10 minute I have seven brothers. Malcolm had that none the less and where those qualities. He wanted to be good place and desire. To do good do that which pleased you and one you of anything was wrong. Think about that if I did. Drug Diversion. To me why I don't like him. He's And I don't say that. You may need it today don't and he may come to your rescue. Don't say you don't live he minute.
Go aboard go out and by doing something to lift my spirit. I like plant flowers. Have them all plays out. Here you know like plant you don't need to I didn't plant myself down somewhere in the country. Given a plan to bring to me and he want to reduce any of the baby and give it to me. Why I've never asked him why I felt so devoted to me. I thought it came through good but he in his autobiography he talks about that devotion to you he talks about time and time again when he had to turn to you. And he says Al is the one person who never wants really backed away from my cause.
No way. Brilliant. And in the back away from it you love someone. Now you know my brother. I love red dresses much red you know would run away. You go up and you were NO WAY MAN When do you worry if I were away. If I left home tonight even a minute and I get home because you know I've been hearing him a drain you're too involved. I want it because you need a different class of people that I would meet that English. Who knows whether good people bad. Did Boston change him that. Is that what led to the person thing the people he met on the streets of Boston changed. If true he would. I would worry about that. I used to worry about
Malcolm going wrong with the wrong people. Someone don't when they saw the behavior would be wrong. Well I never thought I wouldn't you know would be with a man home with a good mind reader. You know who was in my. And you say I want to live and them being in bad but it gives them one of the interesting things about him as he was because there's so much we can talk about I want to make sure we get a lot of different things and hear what everybody else was saying well some people still saying color he preferred to be called. Well how do you talk about why he says you know he was a slave term and just was that the the.
All of it don't pertain just slavery for men but it was conducted over the is how the people accept that but now that came through me and I get that you're very young. I'm six years old I was just a young man ahead of his time. Paul wait you know me at the head of. Oh yeah he does good your way. Hymns sued them plainly. Dick the event would have something to do with the game. Stick to the role Alan. Black people didn't wake up and all that. One of them nobody did it. What was their freedom. You know I'm going to die one day.
Leaving would be one of the GO and made that as he talked about slavery. That's what he was saying when he was talking about slavery why didn't you anyway. Yeah he you don't blame nobody but the answer leave it as it does being too late. He knew we were tired with power money out right. But he knew we had that condition. We give to it we used it in the budget will be there in the good guys they are allowed to go to sleep. He came to you for so many things for counsel criticism even financial support we got a criticism that you have very well you are going to have one thing that gives you a
role in Lebanon the temple where they doing that. I had to hear him in cut. And then they put a big way and there are people that they know to come in the house with a head on it I mean in the head. And something that I want to go into that head off. So that's what you get. I could go to ruin. How did you feel about that time when he was doing that with his hair and he was wearing the suit and he was doing things that got him in trouble. I didn't mind you know and then travel I mean they're not into getting him in prison. Better in getting him into a plane. He knew that and I knew that. But you about people knew that. Malcolm with
aggressive these folks think you know where you live what you speak. And at that time the country the world was in him. Whenever there was a group of black people trying to get together they break them up. They've taken the diplomatic really good say them in jail. Claim They tried to reap the Mormon. They get the vision. I did look at a vid to Kenyan brothers. Can you read. Thank God I can see it in the man I mean you were with him campaigning with you is to get in there and then they begin to move through and through. Well what
do they do if they make it. Then I have to find it. They make it and pen and you get caught up and I think WHY WE'RE SO P.. Why are so many people so afraid of Malcolm X. They know that he he had this little boy that mad homo and walked away and he did well there was another scene in condemning the white man. Why man it was a white lady but a mountain like it. So you're going to need you a man you in that line of thought and act like she was the one that is guilty. You walk your foot down mania and hand looking at you when you stepped on foot and didn't even say it. You may well man. Yeah I thought he was too little
for what he knew was money and he was too much too small. Even with me ready to go and he was ready to go the neighborhood my man was ready he was ready. What do you mean he was writing to us. Yeah I think we've managed. You need to be ready in my mind. You have to see the world for what it really makes you moving. You've got to see the world and the people what they are. And you can depend greatly and you got to know where the band who would have been. Map of that region. How would you like the world to remember Malcolm. As we see young kids walking around wearing the X on the hat and his pictures on the club What do you want them to know about the man that they are commemorating in that way. Now for me dancing that might mislead you.
You know you don't you don't that what you want them to know about you. But people will say when you want to know about them that you know about and what they really really have a feeling then that I think about them and I've been seen Yeah yeah. Why do you think there's so much interest in him now among young people. Why do you demand either one has come in. And you will know him and if you knew him in person things will reveal themselves to many many people and we will all know and I will know him better than I thought I knew him well enough but when you see you've heard about the kids wearing the the Caps Jack Sonny and the pictures and stuff like that call me about both and below. Yeah
they called me about so many why that why are so many entries now that I'm out makes me going to go and say. Best Now I know you're I'm not giving you no there to help too much. But you had would you want to. Now I just know that I was in counseling and Dave. A few years. I want to play. Why do you think he had had to you know. There are some obviously forces that felt he had to go. What Who were those forces have you killed and why. But I mean that just DAVID WEBER Now the Kennedy's sons and my family
now whole family I'm in the care of you know we had to groom them. Malcolm. It's somewhere in the bible of some way you read about now. He he didn't come to play he didn't come to you. You know that American got mad. You know I mean you know in a way someone like me going through what I call them knowing that my. Fellow do you think you and Betty are like you know you would think you gave and then mama. I'm not going mother. No but you mean that and you think you're not going to see a thing. So he came
in one day. You can't. Get winking and blinking when you want to own this code you were there. I know I couldn't. But about a week later that quick he knew what he did can't even buy a new dress. He knew what he wanted him. If you couldn't find a ride I know because he humors get of the camera. He grew and grew to like them. They didn't see. Me he cried. But now I think
JAD and and she did grew to love him. Then when the last thing and when I say no you know mother Malcolm X 9 this week. Do you get along well with her. Do you have human contact. Now you know me and ask me that question. She would kill me. I would do everything in my power to help. I do need you know I have you know and I want my way to help. Madame knew it. Madam saw it and worked with. We now know they went to Mecca. I view of the matter. Do you wouldn't go. You would be pinned down it will be so huge and
go development and development. Why are you always so willing to give for his causes at every step of his life. Why was. What was it about him that made you want to back him at every. At some point people say you're grown now when you're on your own. Well. I have given him my grand mean and he had 17 when Andrew and I and I made you daughter's school teacher you made him feel all of all of the truth. So the dream tour and a lot of cute boy girl couldn't would song would we know would never have been to the beam. You know all the time. And when Malcolm was signed to me my pic now
being mine he said and the other happened to me I want to raise. Now that's a long way. And you say six months but I think I'll respond to both of them out when needed beginning. And two sisters. Then I've been wrong and I became his mother because he was still willing to obey me. You wouldn't even bigger of a rug and there were of there a bounce back in Britain for that. Well the man you know but that's about it he he he would have to do it through wide open. You want me to walk and then. You come on I don't care what kind of weather they had a train coming and it was
lazy and he was on that train you get away with it because I went I was out there and call and say that I don't miss training.
Series
Say Brother
Episode
Malcolm X
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WGBH Educational Foundation
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Ella Collins interview, Malcolm X's sister.
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Chicago: “Say Brother; Malcolm X,” WGBH, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed April 15, 2025, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-15-579s51qt.
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