NET Journal; 155; Conversation With Svetlana Alliluyeva
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early early earth a national educational television live and in color from new york and at journal presents a conversation with that line on israel by an eighties national correspondent paul never let it on april twenty first the only daughter of joseph stalin got off a swiss airliner at kennedy airport walked up to the cameras and microphones as if she'd been facing him all her life when she had not sent over everybody i'm very glad to be here until four months before that says that right now louisiana
had never been out of the soviet union for years ago ever before leaving moscow she wrote a book is called twenty letters to a friend and it was published today says oliva is with us tonight making her first formal television appearance was as oliver i'm sure you've been reading reviews as authors always do with mixed emotions the critics all seem to agree that this is a very remarkable document but some of them have been picking at it and walk to things they say are that you are princess that you live that lead led a privileged life of the soviet union and also that you have tried to switch the blame for the excesses of your father's rule from him to bury what is it like to comment on those two boys are well i have read the news and there well for so andrea's them walk his own way and it's difficult though i knew what
when i know it seems to me that they even from the book of disquiet openness that i didn't have the life of francis portela or what did you try to write what i wanted to have a lively new set up the writers four years ago well four years ago and of course i didn't intend to protect the real question with others to load the war i just thought that they and i think i thought that i was writing letters to a friend the wind drank ball gets rid of memory trend will have some relief from members of the us this is really what was important for me to go you want to get this
off your brain like a bird hears it was a sort of bone and a sort of confession and let theirs and when i finished the read them i really felt some sort of relief you're not trying to write a history of the revolution or a clinical study of communism but are now on the front of the sort that i didn't intend to write memoirs and contemporary picture history of the country i want to throw in brooklyn is says clinton that there's this story of my family my friends people who were close to me i wanted to make that they can get to my mother oh was it a for me the hero overboard i wanted the baby to that memory and to the memory of those people coordinated school based own also the tragic way did you
see it your family and their sufferings is a symbol of these sufferings of the entire soviet people during this difficult period well you know when i was reading that i didn't think about to make a symbol of the whole country i was it more interested though in they culled from my memory everything they can hear about my childhood and you'll send my relations with father and mother and to put it all on the paper just as it was and the thing you know all that has some bench looks and sometimes we meet paradoxes and this is why many people are surprised way in for instance my mother was look at them they're with me about my father was described as a rather then the father and this made some
people make conclusion that i showed him not the way he was but that candidate that matters more complicated that people can think about them the same person who was in the same band cruel to the family growth of the members of the family and misunderstood his political enemies he would be the same damn other content then there was his affair is javelin i don't think it is a strange idea i just told what you are well you know yes i wrote the way i knew him ah but i try though i just want a bushel of a portrait of my father to make it for lower end to give all the shades of it and the idea that
different shades naked picture don't make more poor and more than they've done this contradiction you think that you would question intellectually you know all about you know firsthand from your family's experiences about the bad things that went on during his regime you think that perhaps emotionally feel you have some difficulty in reconciling the kind father had a few insurgent group from the south called to my left hip or with the man who ned didn't having difficulties to reconcile these things because because it seemed to me that the world and the character was that it was anything there anything was very crude there was there and and standing for old so when red ink than the letters of his
daughter was also there and but it was not the main thing for me to show these are the main thing for me to show the change be on the family the tragedy of our family which was normal old family when i was a child and then was going and i believe that anyone can understand that he was the star of the family was written on this this was my only social history this is my only bushel a political development of the country but are the subjects of my writing was family and the political events and not political figures and not political leaders but people who are you know people members of the family i have read in the newspapers that
you have not been entirely happy about the serial ization of the book this is the reaction of many authors was it yours oh well i have i believe in the end it called for is not always the fact when people have to read this excerpt from his book instead of but this gold for vogue and i also felt the same way i don't want to get their vote that because i believe that them the full four book has its own composition then it's all well and all it's on architecture and in the kennedy it should be ruined and then they cook with dishes from here and from there the new ruined the whole impression sound highly video or for my children
you had for that to cope with the fact that the soviet government for reasons best known to it undertook a campaign of love to discredit the book why did they do that first of all that the book is not about the present really is the soviet union it is not a systematic indictment of the communist system although it as reflections on the system which is positive but why should they actually had so much water they've been so anxious to discredit you well i think first of all because they don't like they can ms kipp has taken abroad and published abroad are the slave and that and then they wanted to humiliate i believe paul and discredit me because they they're complaining they want to and just thought that we can show with present a different way and this is
not anything and they just don't feel that anyone to have his own opinion and they don't like people to express things how they like so have violated something called the basic rules and they must all pictures family pictures out of your desk concert with their version of the story oh yes oh yes i say i was surprised to see this summer in the long run newspapers will unveil express and to see my only photographs published there and there and they were they were taken from my own locked desk and they were sent abroad to
politically a horn made his own the comanches that he wrote his own fix them of the shows just for advanced think anew this of investigates the nation's odd these pictures were published all of the wall and that i was surprised to see them do in the new york times and life magazine there are some mistakes because of course they're at the identified the wrong way he is and i walk this was a violation of her rights but one did it surprise us and the soviet government going to fear within the country and the rights of any serious illness or whenever it finds it expedient to do so in the thirty six constitution and its guarantees pretty meaningless how well in a way it's from a surprising because this town they often and in the apartment can be searched and to let their son a percent manuscripts and for the us can be taken away and the after that
they have taken away their support can do when they're whatever they're like so i shouldn't be surprised that such that they treated me read that are one that i felt that i felt that in all those stories tend to live in just shocked to see cause my own father as the others below the wild and all the newspapers and magazines because as you said europe about four years ago a lot has happened both to russia and to you in these four years on a political level first i get the impression that is your feeling that things began to improve after your father died and buried disappeared and continued to improve throughout the khrushchev years but then again to leave the crucial issue is that your opinion overload of my thing
was like that when i was reading the war it was four years ago but then years after that it was a rather tongue it as that of holds you know hopes whole series will hold that in a local show has changed many things in the lead and russia and this book closest to move their of disappeared and some more democracy appeared in life and though we all expected that i myself also expected that some wars that slowly than in this direction like from russia i know it will be what it should be now in a democratic state but literally so that
way expected in wayne and the after show hosts news and there were several steps were done by a court records and of course when i wrote the ball four years ago i didn't feel so pessimistic about political condition of the country as a failed as a failed then when i left it in other words the things that happened between writing the book and last year for the worst decided you make it with a jobs in four years ago were not going to be realized that the country was not really the more democratic oh well yes i should say i felt i should i felt that it seems to go both about the life in the country and this is why this is why i left this is a while ago i finally felt that
quote the tone back to the book that before you can imagine leaving within in a footnote written recently uses the buildup of before the knowledge was there that recently where can you be precise what were some of the three things some of the trends that made you decide that things were not after all going to continue to improve what way did things get worse after khrushchev was out oh well you know we all felt the notion that in the censorship comes back the letters that corresponds with it with a broad kennedy is not allowed to be visible to censor it then they serve in horrible events with the trial of two writers
they haven't seen a ski island no one felt for health safety and long time no one felt new york with the protest people couldn't protest people about to express their opinions freely and they even slightest form of discussion in architecture and in history a new area it was immediately stopped and it'll lengthen the wars and worse and we all felt that only the intellectual community or the entire people do you think oh i think about all the people felt that because at maybe you remember when then when khrushchev was dismissed and he was accused in the main things it station in economics his bed and agriculture is bad still thinks should be broad but
so many promises have been done but nothing has really nothing has happened the end of an hour there was no hope that everything will be changed in the country but you're obviously quite pessimistic how how bad do you think things may become do you think you will be returned home of what is known as stalinism and maybe another stalin well i feel this and think i should explain that like that oh well there is a fifteen years as a my father was no more but the same people rule the country and the same party is there and the same people for all the party and that exactly is the lead in economics political life eleven there is
an unnamed remain the same they haven't changed anything and i don't think they can change because they were brought up in the end the ban chewing noise adolf stallion and they are not going to change its uniquely but the people of meditation relative freedom now they've had more exchanges with the west as foreign culture in moscow the bank changes the iron curtain his stubble little bargains and jan as they used to be is going to be very difficult for the government to clamp down again even if it was well of course people felt more free than people began to job or old they saw how people you know both some bands they read books which are brought from abroad that more convicts end up it is impossible to dial back its impossible to govern and to completely back but you can also see how i'm in how the garment in the party tries
to stop this progressive development and whenever students or directors or boys try to express any protests benevolent tried to call for more democracy there immediately punished one in the history of russia has protested permitted well this is why the television has been that that is why people want to envision fifty years ago they were they wanted to have a democratic freedoms and they want it to have a right to demonstrate a free press and the rights watch human being and they don't still have it you know you think the ancient idealistic image of the revolution have yet to be fulfilled i think they are it's not fulfilled you think we all want to make sure your grandfather's generation would be quite unhappy faces of the union of today oh well there are some old bolsheviks
still alive in russia well i don't know exactly how they feel but i know what youngsters feel the engine ignition teenagers and students oh they have the most progressive offering in the country and of course they want to have right at least to demonstrate with him than with family what is emitted by our constitution but even in that they are put in jail and awards dollars in existing russian and what has it made it as well i think it means in the system of thought though they're in the power of police as we had that touches for many years but more or less the same way we understand it the west well you know i didn't have in a cell and this is what this is what
the music to the show before the government a notion for their version of the twentieth party congress to the advice you give you any private warning that this was going to happen so that you wouldn't just heard about the bay bridge i was before the report was made in the twenties congress are i was invited by weekly on and he gave me the text of the board to read through is just in his home and he gave it to me to read and then he wants to discuss it with me if i would see you somehow embarrassed or surprise but the only think i quit their him then was that unfortunately hey i hear that the visible it looks like golf says the only thing they're going to look like they're fighting for him to do it
well i'd rather of human hand thing do you have the impression that issue in the nature of things and he had just permissions or well nothing is done you know without competition higher authorities seventy this was also done with some specific decision about it john change our lives change once the twentieth party congress to place your friends who support israel for their clients with many went along with the change with great relief which didn't stop speaking you know i hadn't felt anything quite that maybe because my friends were knocked my friends didn't belong to this high official in all at pool va often change their minds according to the political situations but fortunately my friends weren't with me for many years there my at my school
friends your neighbors friends and dilip joseph people hall had nothing to go with the government you know and they've always treated me as a human being that was another like you have many would friends so for them nothing has changed with me and they remained the same friends and you know my life hasn't changed was that that if congress where his changed after nineteen fifty one major change your name from selling it to other movies ten years now and it was a nineteen fifty seven a particular reason oh well that is that was that they wanted to have that name my mother and my son also because my name carli lloyd and you'd say have to explain that they so it'll all the controls at lamp in his eye the name my mother wore ana jo jo to keep your father's name until fifty seven when the new change do about
it well i had this name will lose before and the iaea to change that because i didn't want my son the justice then the second was difficult for americans to understand about you is that you know if a long period of your life and your father's life and after he died where a private service and your activities would not in the newspapers every day our friends when i fishing you knew you were less led the life of private citizens in after you have to give a victory and to some extent before he died that you're living away with new marriages oh well i haven't all session had been saying or nothing is a newspaper says the windmills you think about the private life is a good thing all i need is a good thing because that i don't think that i don't
think that this is a great big then if somebody is native eloquence chavez borden welcome to see a pro monarchy and how you could walk around the streets of moscow or going to the published it without being recognized the average russian didn't recognize the nomination day they would not recognize because they they've never seen the pictures because the pictures and it isn't enough of those and i'll hear in this country when you want to try the virtues of the story will reluctantly at times an excellent your pictures this is this which is something which is unusual for me and embarrassing to see my own face painting just papers which are you as a reader you find the new york times was waitressing reagan pub goers festival yes it's all about so that i should sit at the new york band's more information about our show the american crowd that in today's day both united states so you know probably
people who have moved there is information that was of course information about the soviet union but that that is always that and the same back then in only investigate collective farms and the russians believe the newspapers eisen says so now they take their own newspapers that i haven't read them ironically this year they made jokes about the regime so i'm amazed me do jokes about crochet whispers life and his habits jokes about the league is now and there are more afraid now to make jokes is an internet cafe been crucial that was overwhelmed everybody felt much more relaxed they you know anybody who's been taken to court for making the joke oh well i don't know but the thing people are taking to the port even when there's this young student's
the nato gather on the state flag and they can read the poetry and this is considered to be a demonstration kind of devastation and then they i'm biased somehow what happens sometimes they are expelled from the incidents and universities were such poetry readings of permitted under english immersion things are more relaxed again for intellectuals of for the whole population you think everybody felt were let go oh well i mean what about your own life you you're driving when you read descriptions of yourself in this country as a princess or a privileged person i'm julian did you live a lavish hear what ej you have the standard of living
our union that after nineteen years of delay well of course i had some sort of religious issue or my pension which i had from the state offices eventually a unique tension because you with another stellar novel no no oh for instance a new windows of ministers also have the same tension though it does not a dozen small pension enough though to note the support to have gradually been supported your children but without working for you it was a special enough to support you that it's possible to leave on the tension but it is not possible to make any effort to save money and to buy something for yourself so it was this tension then also my fortune bachmann was considered to be the village because one the soviet citizen candidate says the department's forms forms for every people well myself and to children
and the only had a small country house owned outside moscow publisher look but i should say that the farmer in pennsylvania has much that the house and the better and what the taliban and i had in moscow when i had my own car for well here's the nice old because people on the show that i had and i wasn't able to buy another because it's too expensive for me they do what you know you're in your personal life you we were active in public life and we were active in the communist party were taken a member i was a member of the party since my university years and i was no active member and o i shouldn't say people are very active in the fighting mostly they're not mostly they paid their
dues and you know not many of them like to be effective the ratings yes this is one thing you have to ward off the well once in a few months what if you're monkey have but i never had any sort of public it is because i was really sort of the nih halls and children then you know anything could whole new shopping ordering and everything they had to go for my children because they had no no severance of chords and some simple whole life what you think the government at the top level refuse you permission to register officially americans to say why do they carry fuel prices are well is it it was long delayed and
khrushchev were still there he didn't feel that he felt i think again given permission for that well you asked for permission for sure it is and nor his opinion i know his opinion he wasn't he hasn't he didn't follow that something embarrassing for the state but later when he was this newest opinion has changed and then it was expressed in the officially that legacy yes it was the first job is dating you would've got permission of all he was nothing wrong with them at a forum why didn't you get permission to apply while you were still employed although they say that gaza needs to sing was in moscow and then she left brained and then he'd done back after one year and a half and during that they did unfortunately many things have changed and also opinion on that but the coalition also has changed
so that we couldn't wait did the government and i love to tell you that you should spend more time on party work a public work and less sweetness to sing and the indian community in moscow yes faa's and they were annoyed that was the fact that i spent all my time i'm told i didn't have a little bit of gestation book but vague they just they wanted me to have some more public work in a specific thing that we're together well there was a talk about some sort of organ well it would be some sort of political work foreign
organizations and a little bit sensitive political work and i avoided i did my best to avoid that because i didn't want to make him think of injury that you would take such work to be just tell them that you would do it in order to get out of any approach oh well before i earn less than fourteen that i am i promised to join this work i promise that they could and then this was kind of the point seven eight was in the bear this was one of the moments of the boys from the way a health that they couldn't come because it felt i couldn't walk in this state institute for international workers more to walk and before you left for you told the authorities that you were gonna work go somewhere for this state is true for you know i was i wasn't asked islas asked me dancing and i said oh yes i will
you think that they approach would not let's give you an exit permit to go to india if you had not made this agreement oh well i don't know mammal what i frankly because a i had no choice it was just pressed pants and once you got to india the knowledge that when you went home you would have to live up to this commitment and do this work was one of the factors in your not returning well you know i think when a reindeer or maybe unconsciously i was compared to feel me intolerance for anything in my own country because the way i was treated in india by the soviet embassy in there's a solid officials maybe she'll exactly that i am a human being to poland just the use of state property and so many things which i can relate to you know for
many years that the great disillusionment with in many things the toll the windshield that if i come back to moscow i'll become just they don't pick isn't competing enemy of league the government of the state of the way of life of ideology and that i didn't want to have done that way because it would be forbidden horrible life for my children and thirty one d also i knew it wouldn't be possible to protest for the possible to protest and so i look to come back was a moment which he took this decision really specific event it was a slow cumulative process well many things are a committed slowly oh i wasn't allowed to stay for one month longer in india than i was defused
when asked for extension of visa for the last three months more to stay was related so i was used to an everyday basis of official gold they're called well they really made my life there are you know watched that and to control and to me doesn't it it was just impossible to dismantle the one as you know a plane went to watch tomorrow what would happen to me to be arrested or to have a go also well it would since i am a i am thrilled to be something they commanded crazy person maybe they would say that well now she's using his comeback as a squared nature of work for a crazy person which an addiction is this and that you should be treated you know
six thousand do you foresee the possibility says oliva of things improving some time in the future to the extent to which you will be able to back for a visit where children might be able to come out for a visit well i must say i am thinking back and think about the civility to see my children storm because homemade t specifically is connected with that too many changes in russia i hope that these changes might be possible some famine future of maybe not so you must remember that before vietnam this cruz showed ministration in your country in the kennedy administration this country that we sometimes which would win and improvements in relationships will become whether fast don't you think it's possible that some future american president was a distant future soviet premier look this
levy is living here wanted to lead a combat for a visit to literature in kimonos might happen in the future you don't exclude the possibility well i should say that i am not thinking about my own interests in this collection i love to say that i'm dreaming about it than when i talk and just build great branches russia and the united states would become very friendly and people quit have frequent aches and drove here and there and i'm each other well i hope this time will come and it will also mean something for me personally i hope for the play have been astonished by the extent and depth of your understanding of freedom of constitutional government and of this country long before you ever came here i get your surprise of the people are surprised at how that outcome notion which is that
oh well and learn the eyes that that american history university of hugh herr watches books in her much as much as did you know oh well yes about third and there was also a group of students who was there that american history and we knew overhead also american history and we've had the american newspapers and magazines and we knew quite a lot about this country that was what most of the citizens have no access to have actually suggested that might launch you didn't actors as students do to modify the american newspapers magazines and works well yes for this small little poor people make some social call when american history or american literature these people can get american newspaper symbols but in general russian population is absolutely an informed and they don't have anything they don't know any talks about his country and also about the whole wallet they have no
access to information about their work with the election of the old world but that's because they sometimes they throw some lovin all images they can lead the road so they're more informed most workers peasants who just can't imagine what this collection this country i went to a movie once in moscow it showed an american negro mandibles on it obviously just escaped from a mob or pursuing is running through the woods and this went on for a minute and then they came on the title that america this is america and this is the waitress is the summit press television movies represent the racial situation market not the most russians believe this the uninformed well i'm afraid that maybe the most of the people who came up to me listen to
me though that they believe that that is like that little notice that this is something you know some complain that what you always do but you know that would have no utility that you'll be pursued by photographers and that was the whole crisis there was not afraid of anything can this country you never expect to be in this kind of cut i want to get you to come here and seventeen wounded friends some of the some two countries why the united states won't but it's it was a chance just to know i think because because i knew about this country more than because they speak english and the american embassy was just near the sort of here you mean to say if some other nearby you would've
been there so that i couldn't just going look where is you know it is the week we surprised an emerging government was a little embarrassed to the pressure numbers to a letter carrier pigeon or another country first well as you said there were so much they were what would happen if one of the daughters of president johnson of mrs kennedy say should go or the soviet embassy in new delhi and say i wanted to set a one of the soviet union or what would happen the senate and i think things have been to moscow asking what's in the hoop so in the windows and it was whistling far outnumbering into soviet jew you're here or what impressions do you have a reputation for six months they wouldn't care says although i didn't you
know i haven't seen many had seen with course i stayed on the east coast but it is i have met many american families and i had made many friends and my first impression about the american people that they're open hearted and kind of that it is still it's still the same and the i have received so many letters from american people unknown to me just the welcoming welcome to our country it was so innocent so moving it was so nice to see that people understand me and they just under scrutiny as human beings understand another human being and i was at a feel at a grateful and more and any idea how many ways you received well i think nbc had hundreds
and hundreds of them that you wrote most of the hits of course and i am i keep most of them because that is really really nice and deep and then once they've and he has joined a burst of questions of a deeper skill comments oh well there's no question so marriage proposals and is and a usda replied any of it all well i didn't live because i felt that i could just find the hope of a year and the end there is some fine questions for instance whether my vcr i all in or they are actually show and if that official is this crushing walker swiss watch tv yet yes because it because there will be so so whoever they were made up of having to
fight well not at the show that line of questioning but you haven't done now is these letters addressed but you know he can say well i have that and certainly the letters but of course i couldn't answer all of them and her previous work with johnson just love to say how much a teepee shape whether many obvious reasons why men would write you would suggest marriage but one obvious one is they might read in newspapers that you would make a great deal of money would you like to say anything about what you plan to do with the money it would be receiving for this book oh well i've said it older than i can feel it now because it is very important for me in that that the money which will which his crew make that they will come for charity it persists foundation yes and the charity foundation was established and
i believe that as soon we will be able to discuss all this province and disability you were quoted at one point you're saying that your needs in this country will be very simple a dog a brush a small car well and your associates and friends in this country explain that you you've been in a little more than that the us you have to give some consideration to your own future i believe maybe before though in the crimea they had i would have thought that i would i would be that home first off this is a home of your own overwhelmingly what about the stories that you went back and you were like oh here although these address the stories i have no intention to go to a gun victim there
soon will this is the question of the far future and maybe they've got to check and low and visiting there but i'm going to go there now so for the foreseeable future in terms of months is the issue tend to remain in the united states i would like to now you asked some time ago i think whether you plan to become an american citizen and you applied before love before marriage was calm love that you feel early stirrings of this romance at all oh no not as they say this process doesn't kill me quick and it takes to get back but many other things before i go on that we haven't talked about that you would like to talk about for so many things in the book that was fiercely opposed to begin i just eventually rail to the analyses by psychiatrists and by kremlinologists and others as to wave affected some of them go back in your family history in all kinds of things seemed to
me reading a story in the newspapers from december until now that simply before you left and when an idea what a good idea of what freedom was all about going out of the soviet union who's now free at you like to sign the state isn't that simple oh well it is a perhaps not so simple linda cause that i can see a game that i was prepared for that decision which had made i was prepared for many many years of that they did the disappointments and prisons is yes but not quite understand the timing of the decision is that when you came out and so you had no intentions yes i thought that will come back of course the decision was taken when i was in england when it was taken obviously not just on the evening when you took a suitcase into a taxi actually work that i spent in that the ones in the
house so i had to handle it do you feel there's a lubavitch or megan summer only a help to implement and soviet american relations with it you can avoid being an obstacle soviet american relations oh well i wouldn't i wouldn't like to be an obstacle because all i am dreaming about visit the friendship between two countries and the way i would like to be an obstacle and its weight i would prefer to see two countries finally extension won't relationship and trade in the cultural conflicts in jail and i hope maybe i will have a full pension you favor the exchange programs that station inter service teachers students
journalists oh yes of course i know i know i myself how intellectuals and in russia feel about them how much interest in the arab of life in the united states alone how they would like to come here to make more olympics to see the country how they would like americans to compel russia to see anything anybody wants that people wanted you think the moscow circus family here and american citizens of your favorite i believe that not only circus in the show a theater in hall i believe people should have a chance to come and see intellectuals people common people you know students students from the calm steady here in verse is in american's service reporter mattia an ohio howard katz says the national about that i
think most americans as your male suggests welcome you hear and understand why you came there have been some suggestions however that you might be a spy agency the soviet secret police might come here and make a lot of money or perhaps learn about this country something that then go back and read the fact you can accommodate what i think is funny and that i'm eighty and i thought that the only investment they have they suspect that it would have been to spy and i didn't think the feeling that he or else when a few people like that too i mean even if you were just as you present you to continue writing i didn't begin to record but i'm thinking about that because i still have many things to say and many things to write about and even place for years but this book has four years of war and during those four years so many things have changed in my mind so i have made
things to say more and the kids this is what they would like to do all i don't consider myself what was the issue of book about you and your personal life the last four years bringing in political background oh well i cannot say exactly but the odd perhaps it will be more critical walk in the south while critical of the regime of the present leaders in the lead up innocence in the that's not it was not a market the governesses it matters too much even though things were better during the khrushchev regime you think as long as the president's system continued this would be stifling for the individual the level of their i still believe that the system is wrong and it hasn't changed much in the last fifteen years you wouldn't want a restoration the meineke obviously you would like to have something
like a brief taste of the special moments of you your head is emptying out well i think people in russia argument about democratic freedoms and about free elections and girl real bottom and then more barges and why and this is what they want to put into people feel it's one of the many people who feel as you do i believe that many of the percentage of your friends if given the opportunity and if they were set down in india would have done what you get like oh well i don't know maybe they would like to stay in india but i can say about religion or imagining you think the majority of soviet intellectuals would leave the country and stay out of the country if given the opportunity now i believe they would vote to stay in the country and the struggle there for for democracy this is all of a collectible well nice addition was rather peculiar know
and more strangely in the water well perhaps meaning because all my lab was a little bit unusual and strange so i prefer to believe the slick which is rather a special place special case because you're happily married at a very special case because you and author joseph stalin or special case because of the whole tapestry of realize well it was a specialty is maybe because i had just sat there i think my my old man i had said to make this that they have essential role than to stay broad and i don't regret about that i believe i have done all i think generationally don't you know even when you read that in those issues of you that were ejected from the show with oh well i still
believed i had done and i think you said repeatedly that most of your time doing less expensive than occupied with the book and the various problems attending the publication of this book now and october second despite what he would do them all having i don't know specifically where you're going but what you were to tomorrow the next day when it's a hollywood theater tomorrow i'll have to say that when they have today because today is really the day of publication of the book this is a great event for me i could never dream about how we avoid gluten dream about the knife in quite good thing that they can see them how we feel very happy to say this thank you very much for an interesting element this law and interconnected broadcast was the first of many this season will be coming to you
for national educational television broadcast laboratory and eighty watch the station for the first of a new experimental broadcasts under the title pbr on sunday november fifth national educational television
- Series
- NET Journal
- Episode Number
- 155
- Producing Organization
- National Educational Television and Radio Center
- WGBH Educational Foundation
- Contributing Organization
- WGBH (Boston, Massachusetts)
- Library of Congress (Washington, District of Columbia)
- AAPB ID
- cpb-aacip/15-19f4r1db
- NOLA Code
- NJCA
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- Description
- Episode Description
- This interview with Mrs. Svetlana Alliluyeva, daughter of the late Josef Stalin, will be conducted live on the publication date of her book of memoirs, "Twenty Letters to a Friend." Though no advance script will be available, it is anticipated that she and NET correspondent Paul Niven will discuss in English the book's revelations concerning Stalin and such products of his era as Secret Police head Lavrenti Beria, Soviet head of state Anastas Mikoyan, and deputy premier Georgi Malenkov. The 41-year-old daughter of Stalin, who defected to this country in April, has already created a furor in the publishing world through the manuscript which she smuggled out of Russia on a trip to India last year. A Pirated manuscript has appeared in England and the Soviet Union, and the New York Times and Life magazine will excerpt portions of the book this month. Though she does not classify herself as a writer, Mrs. Alliluyeva is a former member of the Soviet literary intelligentsia and worked as an English translator in a Soviet publishing house. The treatment of intellectuals in Russia in particular, the sentencing of writers Andrei Sinyavasky and Yuli Daniel for publishing anti-Soviet works has a strong impression on Mrs. Alliluyeva and was among the reasons for her defection from Russia. In coming to the United States, she was seeking "the self-expression that has been denied me for so long in Russia," and since finds "I am absolutely sure that I have done the right thing, "though the move to America estranges her from her two children, at present in Russia. In an interview published last week (The New York Times, August 27), Mrs. Alliluyeva said that her father was never "the incarnation of evil, "but that "perhaps the evil power conquered the good in our family." She especially noted a change in Stalin after her mother's suicide in 1932. "NET Journal A conversation with Svetlana Alliuyeva is a production of National Educational Television. The producer is Henry Morgenthau III of WGBH-TV, Boston, and the host is Paul Niven. This hour-long piece was recorded on videotape. (Description adapted from documents in the NET Microfiche)
- Broadcast Date
- 1967-10-02
- Asset type
- Episode
- Genres
- Talk Show
- Topics
- Literature
- Global Affairs
- Media type
- Moving Image
- Duration
- 00:59:38
- Credits
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Guest: Alliluyeva, Svetlana
Host: Niven, Paul
Producer: Morgenthau, Henry, 1917-
Producing Organization: National Educational Television and Radio Center
Producing Organization: WGBH Educational Foundation
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- Citations
- Chicago: “NET Journal; 155; Conversation With Svetlana Alliluyeva,” 1967-10-02, WGBH, Library of Congress, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed December 15, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-15-19f4r1db.
- MLA: “NET Journal; 155; Conversation With Svetlana Alliluyeva.” 1967-10-02. WGBH, Library of Congress, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. December 15, 2024. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-15-19f4r1db>.
- APA: NET Journal; 155; Conversation With Svetlana Alliluyeva. Boston, MA: WGBH, Library of Congress, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-15-19f4r1db