Neighbors; 3/14/85

Coming up in three two one yesterday on neighbors we listen to students from around the Bristol Bay region talking about the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act on the 1991 issues. Today the views of village elders who spoke recently before Tom Burgess. Alaska native Review Commission during a hearing in Dillingham today will hear the thoughts of Georgia Lucic and Thompson I thought my name is that you argue like a criminal like you. I'm going to speak Arabic. The guy making imams let me lead me. You got me. No not going to cut back who can do new meat that are here I'm going to new meat a week among a deli. Naturally do good. Believe it Dame they were America to gambling magnate did not duck in Congo

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OK George I would like to share a few things to address concerning what he thinks. First of all he says that he usually doesn't talk in very many meetings but when he talks he you know he really has something to say so first of all he'd like to say that he wants to hang on to your land and he says that we know from experience many of us who've done fishing and have made money how do ice from Miter either sources money goes fast i.e. you may have quite a lot of money but the next few days after you spend it's gone to land he says has always been and its tail around. And then speaking from

experience he says that the land always takes care of ice people has always taken care of most colony of people own Lask and has to care for just what we need from the land we get food from the line we get cloning from the line we get things to wear in our feet and a pretty one. If anyone saw stad land it would be just like losing everything because you don't have to land you don't have all these other things that the mansions that you get from the land. Kelly I why I when I came to my town from killing money you'd be lumen I wouldn't kind of had

my coat done Myka McKinnon up big. Come on I mean the actual big guy you are not connecting the app diluting cannot commune on a big challenge to you. Come on Sac County Commission accept it nationally done and we can get to buying any illuminant gotten myopes go in economy beat him in the Q2 and made the question cannot go to our local base or you're late. No not good guy cooperation that we learned can be a guarded my lumen Putois create my good day my cat create a lot and I appreciate what you had me

at. OK he'd like to elaborate a little bit more on what the Van Burnam guy said concerning what he considered the traditional way that the native people outside of land back in the old days older people understand what he's talking about. No one in the past said this land is mine but it belongs to everybody and people want to come and hunt. Nobody went out here hunting on my land. And also when people hunted in the past they didn't go out to hunt just to waste what they were after they were not there to hunt because dey needed what they needed or what they were after. And

he'd like to follow up on a suggestion that Mr. Brown made and that is that if people would continue even after they got tired of the village corporations got title to it land Westie idea that the native people always had and that is to say here hon. Not to say you're hunting on my land or share and share alike and corn not go and tell people this land is mine and not yours. There would be less problems but if people started telling other people you're trespassing because this is my values corporation land then he says that he sees a problem that there could be fighting there could be you know. Misunderstanding created by many people

because of this challenge to name a local and look good. 1971 I'M GOING ON A You need to get a guy reading out Lanny. I'm going to make the lemonade. You can ask me when we are good while I dodge your question. My good king of klieg Congo got that mark in not going in chi can you. Good to make a little then we are going to get a guy a guy who we are. We go. I see the looting going on but we've got one good doctor I've got have any I've got in mine and I'm crying on the way down I wrote back. Kelly Not knowing the look GOING TO ME I NEED YOU IN THERE WATCHING money down now you got money you need like an

extended really love app. You know good 20 20. I go and come on I feel creamy Ochterlony dark Gully I Doc out get to know me Young got to get cut. Criminy 20 years extend that go and he got my only on got to go looking to come out in that scene. Dr cotton was hot the kind of girl a Doppler GU kind of guy you hope play. His last concern chaos West hafter born which were referred to after born in 1971 on children who are born. His question is how in his thinking how how can they live without planned you know were they just because they're born after 1970 19

71 they're not treated like the rest of us who have a share of land or whatever. And in his mind he would like to I. Figure out a way to be able to help. Days after born she didn't come up with any immediate gesture in 1991. I guess there is a provision there if people want to they can extend their extend restriction or stock or whatever for 20 years. He says that he is for that and if that can be possible to be worked out he would like to see see people work on that extension. OK I thank you sir. I am

just as eager to make a film that you would think that we're getting here. Oh well he said this was a good meeting. I'd tell you that he said it was a good meeting. He likes these kind of meeting where people are not really hollering and fighting and you know yelling back at is better a chance to share concerns and that's my fault I didn't tell you that but this is always he's going to take me. Judge I thought translating the testimony of Georgia Lucic before the Alaska Native Review Commission in Dillingham Joe also will translate the testimony of the next person who spoke his own father. Thomas I thought I want to quote go. I'm kind of crowded but only

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get a job could could could could. No we don't. I wouldn't try to. Good God he got any good at all I was called a weakling when I did not need a book to muck it up with the kind I'm going to jump through. Button this up God don't. Pay high. How is Tom child like my father. He told the story that way to him by he had passed away several years back. Light Nick was one eyed eerily naif

lay pastors Fordham Raven church and crash program were still bad and he was aware of. A lot of things that many people of race age were not aware of because he. Was probably one of the earlier educated native people from the early or late or late eighteen hundred saan. Anyway Lloyd Nick I guess told a story about. How could a white man first came up into a crash program area and that was right around mid eighteen hundreds of white people. Which was really

actually to him or even missionaries came up from down below and they wanted to acquire a pace a piece of land back to even go out. And they people didn't have on a piece of paper saying that this was you know this is my land. Any time a white person came a respected down a people's land as if it belonged to any person white or a tad deed or title to it and show B 40 below. I guess day went around to several religious up in a classic Okhrim area which is now to battle area and try

to get permission from Summit of elite elders to build to build somehow just sure to build a mission. There were several villagers tatay went to and villages told them that they couldn't. Finally they came to a village which is I guess known as ACCU Act which is just about battle and the Tel leader there who probably want to be heir to a Russian Orthodox lay. Claim and. They are known as story arcs gave him or showed him a piece of land which then a people back then didn't value very much and told them that they could build that

right there. And that happened to be the place where the town of the city of Bethel a spell today. They were given permission to build somehow just and and I guess this is where the name battle came from because. Because it was our mission station and this this group of people that saddled up there were. I guess accounted for. Probably given some of the first education to the local people in the area. He had to cater to some of the native people. The reason why they were accepted I guess

by the Navy people was because day. To go were willing to become. Like the native people. There was a fella that came up with them I guess he was a half Indian. His name was John killed buck. And he learned a language and he lived and became one of the neighbors in the area and told the native people that he was a knave. And so he was accepted. And. From him how many of the native people up in a battle I learned you know somethings of the white man culture. But my dad and I just talked earlier today I wasn't around but he

he told also that he was born somewhere around 900 so. You know back then they didn't have any birth dates or date in recording but anyway right around 1900 I guess I disbursed date. Today we give him a birthday because he's white I say. We figure he's born right around somewhere in February. And our family has given him February 25 as his birthday. Anyway he reiterated the fact that back when he started realizing when he first started realizing things. To main staple diet of the Navy people like fish and this is what has been the main diet of this area in a casket.

And then the main. Source of clothing which first everybody had. Purchased for a closing day didn't have a Sears catalog I suppose to order stuff from So. Take out everything from Deland just like what somebody other fellas the older folks said earlier there were a few white people. When he was a child and whenever they came around they respected dad they respected to people in the area and they just didn't go out and hunt and fish like so many people do today without pride getting prior permission from the local people.

And local people. The Navy people never used to realize why until now why why why today just didn't go on and do this and and they realize later that that in their own land the white people these. Are regulated by. Regulations because you know utter white people say this is my land you can't do it or. You can only hide in terror and not terror and so on. But another area which he mentioned always that I began back when he was a child. There was no regulations. And no boundaries as to where a person may hunt and. And acquire things to live off the land. And then a last area

he covered twice. He's sad he's been hearing I guess about land here for. Quite some time and particularly since last year we've been talking about 1991 and the sale of. Availability at that time. That person who Salus his land will be the one. Who. Well beat a person who has never learned to listen to his Algiers will be the one who has never learned to respect his land as the elders to excel. So I think his conclusion a state if you hear of anybody selling their land you can bet that that person has to wonder who have you has never learned from his challengers has to how to respect his land so I guess

to Missy's too I see younger people is that we maybe should listen to some of the elders. Thank you. George I thought of translating the testimony of his father Tom so I thought before Tom borders Alaska native Review Commission during a hearing in doing him last month. Tomorrow we'll wrap up our series on the recent budget commission hearings in Bristol Bay with testimony from three persons. Jackie Wilson Perry Eaton and Olga Andrew. This is Bob King I'll be back with more news in a minute.