thumbnail of High Plains History; Lewis Evans
Transcript
Hide -
This transcript was received from a third party and/or generated by a computer. Its accuracy has not been verified and may contain errors. Help us correct it on FIX IT+.
as beacons bill to pass by a penny has been at least as it has been reissued
for the fbi it's
been a week
i mean i made these things i deserved it that was a bubble these instances i am a public radio
where an npr affiliate and i hear your buffalo bill from colorado this man that dude that the formula for thirty some years old world alone here you're never going to get this started evergreen colorado the fiery quite a few times to see how charlie was doing with a sculpture in milan so it was just a room with a statue of you know for the last year or so they may be come back and do the little things that characterization belied his reasons
christmas in different ways around the country and that is people like i'm a semi retired from horseback i don't write or syria or so subtly too much with horses anymore or a one quarter yale hegemony was only just about seventy one all right oh yeah the dinner party or different things even a west alive making the anti terrorism years if there's some years and started in that one of the buffalo bills out but there's another member the golden colorado
this year i mean we're all dressed in what looks like a very appropriate attire for the time this is exactly like oh he's the only defense but the real owner of the only difference going to suggest as a business and this is the other co that the day he wore when he was a younger man we first started as well was still beating in french spanish and this year
many are that cavalry officer and ms annie oakley well it you and miami with high plains public radio where an npr affiliate and gathering santa baby names so that we can put in their story parallels from evergreen colorado and captain majeski all i am mayor former and first commander of fort was the western kansas my name is harvey milk and i'm phoebe analyst mo says most people know you buy any old thing and i really is barbara kelsey from colorado find out about this character is that you become the de as the years have a driving force within you have to learn everything you can you read books did you watch old movies are sometimes i do a show in nineteen
forty while many here in its revival bill's young on the middle of a meal or who i was there as that power and he was a mole so i studied an interest for history and also character and i was always intrigued by miles ceo who actually was so i thought by the unions to be the toughest fight of the last surviving are the calorie intake was like a custard and dementia lives as a stuffed them in manhattan kansas it's an interesting story that that horse and he was
happening commander like and that's why when he was for stationary here in kansas he was stationed at fort was to start that ford he's got a lot a connection with fans are you ready doing presentations good morning you were discovered states and
that has an artist that every tenth of a small exhibits seventy audience for this afternoon's see people out there you know in america this is neat see
ha ha oh yeah it didn't happen on a lot lately we've had actually made this you're a good feeling to see buffalo bill rolled down the highway bill a monitor that was a good feeling
to schedule when he came at a day earlier we found with this project everything is subject to change and it seems almost hourly happen that they have simply the directors writers benjamin survey says it can do and there's a good thing isn't it that was here had anything rate grain and we had a problem getting up the hill so granting that backwards so yesterday morning on my way this morning i'm sorry
we we yeah what he meant to stop a different position for the rivals so we're really seeing the buffalo and needed to lighten up a little different than what we had anticipated so was the reader a whole lot of research and that no problem we're like it are you so i think it was all i did not to charlie sometime today i normally busy out here so mit museum and then we went into this that's right right right you know this debt cancellation isn't easily at the lights are intensively oh oh oh that's
ok i just said that he thought he was involved with us and i'd like to see and it has recovered nbc dc thank you now besides
cancellations over here he's pretty busy painting and we are playing on one that range from high plains public radio to get you to play a little bit of it for me for a story we're going to give me a name please call the system as city kansas
what is it it is the story of a few weeks
ago we aired as you think you do you think you know if you make just for years but his heart four years ago a year sierra leone's at tonight's friends and it is a force a parenthesis without
major party was that it's counting on the latent some strings or so and this here is liza mundy it's huge now well i i had an ideal interview that i had never seen and francis made a point yesterday is no i do as a wonderful day in everything read everything turned out the real good
campaign it has been and he's been doing
any crime you hear
three d glasses this is something they can use i double lives in their wrath was a forty five or so is a forty five just about hedge a barrel here for men a circus a voyage so everything that everything is double life size and then if you look at this as well as you noticed that on his left leg is get more pressure on leicester in the right way because he's leaning forward to get that in there dressed up because she couldn't see his cheek as regal a couple places every spoken
in ours yes and the little mention it or they're you know he's one of the main and two militaries yet jesus saves one of these days first punch card forty five seven now it looks like the drive the horse and then you know that line that he's been at a great speed and i have i have a pretty basic question how do you keep his hat on
you know there has been criticism that and another thing and realize when coated was shooting was a horse is mainly we shouldn't vote for reagan was a horse and that we thought it would come through we see as an apple it rains all he says those rains the horse would come to an end surly and on the formal code would pull the trigger and citizens shut off to one side because he didn't want to overrule roe stumble over so as the horses on the outside it would allow its members called trap door time for some bitterly on him or you know they were great courses which are the horses i
mean a novelist is needed which of the waffle would get colder of time recently dropped on all year at two hundred yards of rubble here this was the scene occurred and you can come in and from the baggage issue someone described it in the bag and then down that link up next to saul and when the guys came into voyager they had this energy and bustle lately with them maybe a hundred yards and that's what he would feed the chickens tell us about that this is as well you know
otherwise was in all the kids so yeah we had over seventy people think every day and was a leading the ham is right here that was as buffalo me to hear you know years ago thank you anyway i'm renee
montagne you're welcome can you name this project well i guess it was my brain to begin with the us consulate is to type a sizable
percentage of buffalo and places here on the west end and you have businessmen here in hungary as good an up quad which groups have actually good as it says it is a huge undertaking immediately did you have not just a please support was there support for the state of kansas or from other areas in communities around there's no public support for this and so so you just a bunch of thugs join hands together and at putting together yes we answer key supporters are baghdad and suspense about mighty didn't think hitler was a substantial about money and about one other local businessmen to meet other substantial about three and half million dollar project runway ok
and now it is telling some fundraising understand this issue were not that we're not only to have the amazing goal we're very close i think to day in the ensuing days were an activist work and support and will it work or patients and another twenty five out of the body but i think we'll get this week big crowd here today for their dedication and and swirl the day's festivities here an ugly i know that you're probably expecting more of the same era bobcat had he had any indication yet of the interest in this project and what you hope it will do for the area economically for the for my research and then the pastor found out that attorney wyoming the museum draws about three hundred thousand people a year stop to see that museum you know were set is not really on the way anywhere except these interests in yellowstone park there are no interstate highways lead them out you know dr curry so i feel like it's some point we should be of a drop at least a hundred thousand and more people to the
side a year mount work buffalo bills by nineteen seventeen that draws us six hundred thousand people used up his gravesite is bare their nineteen seventy so that's a lot of people have used up their leaders promise of our position along interstate highway and the fact that this culture of something that's a magnificent twelve people and i can see it that they were going to tell their friends and neighbors that they need to get to kansas i'm going through western kansas to see this monumental sculptures well there's two ways of the interstate highway and it's a seventy six us also issued seventy yourself is right along a highway forty one iran and the colors lazar deserve rights as a tree highway right periphery highway intersection citizens lots of ways to get here and just look for the big horse and rider and buffalo could you cannot listen thank you very much
we do i'm from high plains public radio and i was just going to get reviewed her postmaster says the cancellations service right here at the base of the statue did you have bad business today yes we have a lot of activity a lot of folks that are here to a dedicated the statue will please and basically people can bring their letters that most of them had like a buffalo special buffalo bills stamper something you got mostly collectors doing this are all sourced collectors people here for the dedication just have a souvenir photo of today's occasion i should know that if they want to retake in malin requests for the special translation for thirty days so those acting a cancellation today and would like one it's meant to the post office and make sure it has
sufficient dosage on their castle a minute back to integrate in your dear little unlike canada won that helped push along the special counsel for today's events i'm a stamp collector from colorado and member of a heroic amount of fiber and a lot of this earlier than they are also members of a couple of the full bill museums there so i couldn't miss this is great we got to love and to the city's days before the battalion at night and just like walkers or go it was really beautiful so we couldn't miss it mr karachi again but thank you very much for talking to me again they'll bronze
sculpture dedication station may twenty second two thousand and four oakley kansas zip code's examined seven four at it as a picture of basically the outline of the statue with that with the horse a writer and buffalo barry no he's never actually did that drawing or that that are that come from charlie you're nowhere so i think through the sheer power so the people in here don't we were cursing out why those statues are a number of people were involved with growing turkey feared and he had to go through his superiors to get approved are you also we are fortunate to be elegant and have for today so that states are not great i see on your hat and on your badge that you have to buffalo bill stamps there's a fifteen cent her hand usually only to do when he nods postage stamps the analysis of services issued an end of all no fifty seven came out in the nineteen
eighty eight as khalid defended stand this one i came out in the early nineteen nineties it was part of a hat legends of the west she <unk> people like annie oakley and the bat masterson song soul isn't going to bubble will sampson existence kelley thank you cannot sue he's been to pay his bill the painting the
peak the peace bell this is track eight in i'm talking with patent trolling norton on in oakland kansas and dam the artists of the day here definitely today anthony troli just said i'll be glad to see them from an outcome that you are how long had you actually been climbing it was let me try how long has this
project actually been percolating for you actually it was conceived in a fire and so don't worry scott shane is one thing another but actually about five years ago i really got to go out on the project started in some small sculptures paintings one thing in america and selling course met with them but peter miller sevens and finally arrived today on the idea of you know what we were going to get into the mine and so then we started a big sculpture probably about three years ago and now you know more to want to go to the point that the halls process and of course that after league completed the actual at all with treachery and all of the taylor one of them and turn it over to my mole viper an attorney who's doing the work on some of the other brands
but under course will assist and touches we have the subcontractors animals were aboard a reporter taking part in it they're going to reject what mark white monsignors to run together on these big projects but at any rate why then carter or catching they're in love when it was founded a casting for marine corps side of kashmir for many years in and actually spent thirty one years at a time so we're around the founder yvonne hill that we can stay out of the way when we need to stay out of oriented let's is going be working on similar projects change it's been certainly a three year project to this point and show a new society we're anxious to our were anxious to for today you have the medication get the project kind of sin and we've enjoyed so innate monuments go through this magnitude has a lot of
its own problems just due to the mass the size of the police unit as i understand it is the world's largest buffalo bill and portion buffalo and it's a little larger than to isolationist show what is the actual size on him and where you get leverage over two reports larger portion of it to he's tried to maintain a lot of action a lot of times or sculpture becomes rather stiff panda so you know to start each project you mr ritter on inside large deal to support the whole system that you build around that and that sometimes the year are richer tested decay too much of the overall winner for the piece and so i think where the cruel succeeded in maintaining that the flight of the piece like you know that i wanted to convey emotion if it gets really has a flow i'm at what i was talking about that was one
and then reenact years at the site this morning and we were looking at it and and then he was bursting with me about that the dress am the authenticity of the piece you know just historically in terms of a figure in an the buffalo and a horse in that all the trappings that buffalo bill has on the clothing an amazing and then the coach flying in the wind and it could look at it and kind of feel the muscles in the legs and the horse in the end about love to me it's it's it's really very effective one of the things that we are all from sudan predictions culture detention portions what people paid and sculpted a part of the modern welsh that's what they like and go and photograph them a copy that photograph and done there are the horses at the is back in a team situation or if you're talking for three predicting forty or certainly different courses entirely what we have today and no
confirmation there's something different about him but i try to maintain that all historical look at the horse little rougher hit and picture it's really that spanish or look into mustangs and bill clinton is certainly using a mustang britain wrong and i'm so i've had the opportunity to be around a lot of the mustangs letter came from the southwest and a few hundred and it would own one myself and so on so it's a good reference on that literally warm on them barefoot better fix to the cove and been all for myself i realize the importance what it is to have good feelings enter a horse that some of the horses today likes that stamina relax that their confirmation to withstand the elements and under the natural conditions the time and during those wars
lynn neary host after richard world order didn't show us as far as the silent era guns that type thing i corrected cells in and there were three or so i just use liam was the actual historical pieces like a bit in his mouth as an eighteen fifty nine military that which was used during story corps in fact it's hard to place nineteen sixty eight what i thought was an opportunity to show some of the types of military surplus items that would be used in civilian life and so but it's the gowns which right now and conversion which first year at fifteen nineteen sixty five and it i came out with a first on
conversion why that was to convert a rifle spread forever from there was a lawyer which was a fifty caliber converter bridge or so but that they'll breach block or would open in the back and looted from the back and then the second on conversion which nobody was using wine that came out in nineteen sixty five are at sixty six order at sixty six and then so you'll have a lot of dates sixty three sixty four sixty five and organize actual gun at sixty five i never and so that's what i put on this go to the fallen very close to work directly from an arch rival and as well as a religion the captain walton's holster and there's a photograph of bill calling for one parishioner and you have a postal worker a much like remington and they also had a remington within show it was pretty easy to decide what that within the
disciple who was israel's slick for that basically the morgan type creation later on another every additional authority from the treatment to bill curry head of the satellite record on russian and c h collins to build and sell for boys show that was like woody allen points in your day but course bill cody being shown that it was headed there are too many size on that but i have a very pretty and reaching fifty vintage sound that i used a small loan that a driver of the economy not only the tact and clothing outlets that one thing that as i said earlier they're also the horse players the title or send them cars haven't changed that much but really use to teleport you'd think well every outlet the little more flesh on brigham one a sculpture of
what it would have and relatives and then he went to a book called little dazed and confusion for we're also with us then he referred to it and in part of history that he chose not to have a photograph lady of buffalo bill's abortion because it was in such poor condition after heavy runoff won't and you know bill was a good writer and a good portion of time so lawyers like that work well you sound like you're not only an artist but it got a great historian did you know a lot about buffalo bill before you started this project or did you did you do your research both you know i was well let me with buffalo bill but what we
started on something like this we get into some we start hunting for more detail more insight were different that time but history of archaeology is always been an interest of mine and so we try to do a lot of that in that interview with the humanitarian corridors of all that i am i really try to spend time researching the beach for archaeology along with it and patricia pat norton your wife would not disturb on the bronze out there at the site they attacked her name is listed today it's patricia and charlie norton are carved into into the bronze and then was was this a surprise to you pack well it it was back then that i really astronaut even put my name on because after all he's the sculptor i just do what i'm told to watch that i did help a lot on various things that he needed
and it was about a three o'clock one morning and we were working away on the basis of already decided on down and he said you look at a patrician we debated and so we decided to treat she was more appropriate and when i put my name it i actually cried because it really meant a lot to me no sculptures sculptors did not put their wife's name and that even though they probably have helped a lot well you heard you say that you just you just do what he says coltrane you do what you're told that you're also a painter and you're a night at my senior pain is here on display at the museum today hear an ugly so congratulations to both of you for this project you you set down the earlier that you know here you're going to get this part of it i've done and completed what's next and a long rest or if you're already started working on another project content for various bills huge roman and an artist you're always british
pay more divergent founder and lieutenant gray in church and then on television no we have no safety net under which poet william which is what you can create and try to create the very best and you keep what organizers no guarantees in life and so as far as what's next at another's other proposals that were working on it and it's just the thing to keep going and hopefully i'm always keep doing the very best job quality and the pieces and not become legal fast retrograde commercialization of her instrument on board that we stay so calm and david led by all weekend i will get out of this show on a short time on mr sanjiv we can create something called a rather
than they realize that quick it's for fine art in my own choices trying to make some kind of historical you know a hundred or five hundred years from now and we will look at it and realize that it is a very accurate very accurate and so leach to their own image it's just my privilege ok i want it i had a couple of technical questions as night didn't know if it was something else that you wanted to andy and on on the interview i'll let the process itself i saw them into smaller pieces bronze pieces here a couple years ago when i first came to this museum organize another history project and now now an andean city started the sketches and drawings and everything on what charity work with clay and how do you get that huge shape of that big thing to make them all twelve return
to use mostly foreigners the year or that letter mike takes a speech to amnesty order and then they play on the outside of foam that we actually are the details that you know just do the size of the mass of it you have to have something that a solid rigid to the clay on and yet what you can go back and i'm a corrections on your definition muscle tone regions whatever the case might be and as something that's easily scott show the foreign realm to steal archie were twelve and a play on top of that and then come back with miles of empty it when he landed in kansas they'd get to go and study but certain people are you self taught or what mostly self taught exposed by my first coping with leonard i didn't think it was mostly young now
on online so our monday was worst day of course were made so why so you know now that we butcher and read mr michael weiss so when you have to shake that off the martian his own art water so we're still around and things of that nature or soft rock rock which we have this country in woodlawn that and course i was wrong craig says well life you think or should avoid going into the livestock industry and and state and adam and porsche for corrective day chewing on horses and deathly still there so it was kind of a human skull and a lot of things that get enormous self taught me alicia watching what others do an ironic can and unemployment
also from the very world to bring it into a sculpture of fortune it's more accurate more authentic and i don't hesitate to scan have leisure and interviews the anatomy and think of that nature so that i can get actually believes that it's continual learning process me on in europe you're studio you're located your your workspace isn't liotta kansas is that prep for the smaller items for the large case we had right in spirit during the duration of the scorpion which tempers quarter of two thousand and three and shall we don't hesitate to go after which is basically how her head on his job and so you go where the work is we have to be show will be gone for you know and we try to make it home at least once a month paid bills in his tenure it back and mow the lawn and take your goals you back into a routine i know you brought the squid the sculpture out of
town by truck from loveland out on i seventy and then you unloaded at use cranes and things like an ad how did you feel when he actually saw it in place an end now that the height of that he always is what it's pretty steep you're here now so that its its place so that from a distance it's it's up above the horizon you could see it how did it feel when you when you actually saw it coming into place there relief like de mayo brothers loveland colorado was kind enough to move down porcelain serving monument sculptures across united states further sculptor jim are masters of their work and then and i like i was getting yellow shirt really interesting to stay on how much greater hundred dresses but duty and
relevant around and then so for region more rights and all that so they basically to go second or religion cross the country coming out but that they didn't really job and now it's like the founder group are cashing in recruiting ordinarily a wonderful job and more leverage in a wonderful job four and joe i want people of like of course her first in four hours after those toys here she agrees to live in del ocho but she's you know she's got a modest about its future trees to color didi very wise used to be really proud of shoe
shine on day one tony snow got millions of you know being the father in church is one thing another relative is a ten percent it says jack mcguire at the colonial klein's steakhouse ad now oakley and i seventy it's certainly a cake and that would see what your special city where steaks robinson's lila more is juicing tasty aides they have buffalo chili a shift has made his last night of the fire and for years some spices and ground buffalo ny which is partly because the surrealist and tips on the side we have a bottle right about five ounces of lean groucho surprise in which a bestseller for today thank you
Series
High Plains History
Episode
Lewis Evans
Producing Organization
HPPR
Contributing Organization
High Plains Public Radio (Garden City, Kansas)
AAPB ID
cpb-aacip-0ec44bec429
If you have more information about this item than what is given here, or if you have concerns about this record, we want to know! Contact us, indicating the AAPB ID (cpb-aacip-0ec44bec429).
Description
Series Description
Stories of the history of the High Plains.
Raw Footage Description
Interview with Lewis Evans who is talking about a Buffalo Bill sculpture project in Oaklee, KS at its unveil.
Asset type
Raw Footage
Genres
Unedited
Topics
Fine Arts
Environment
Nature
Subjects
High Plains
Media type
Sound
Duration
00:58:38.424
Embed Code
Copy and paste this HTML to include AAPB content on your blog or webpage.
Credits
Interviewee: Evans, Lewis
Producing Organization: HPPR
AAPB Contributor Holdings
High Plains Public Radio
Identifier: cpb-aacip-6e2c8df3f91 (Filename)
Format: MiniDisc
If you have a copy of this asset and would like us to add it to our catalog, please contact us.
Citations
Chicago: “High Plains History; Lewis Evans,” High Plains Public Radio, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed September 10, 2025, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-0ec44bec429.
MLA: “High Plains History; Lewis Evans.” High Plains Public Radio, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. September 10, 2025. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-0ec44bec429>.
APA: High Plains History; Lewis Evans. Boston, MA: High Plains Public Radio, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-0ec44bec429