An hour with George HW Bush

president vice president united nations ambassador will manage navy pilot and father to the current president that's george herbert walker was the recipient of this year's goal leadership rise i'm kate mcintyre and today on k pr presents the forty first president speaks with bill lacy the director of the dole institute of politics at the university of kansas bush spoke to a sort of crowd aka use leed center where he reminisced about his political career rick what it on the presidency of his son george w bush and offered some advice for president obama and now here is president george herbert walker voice and then only does so a lot will the honors young bob dole were rivals iii different times in your career you know so the presidency in nineteen eighty eight nineteen eighty eight we came really fast friends after that talk a little bit about your relationships are built rather recently became

fast friends was because of the way that he treated me when i was president and he was later minority mean that he was leading the republicans in the senate and they were not in the majority back then but he did a superb job to give the president the benefit of the doubt and always curious good i could not a pass for anybody in the congress house or senate to be much more forthright or more straw and in supporting of the gemini gemini was elected on a nineteen eighty eight so while i have great respect for him we had a friendship before that we serve in the house together and it kept up with and the source of a really cemented the relationship you know john mentioned in his introduction the skydiving always wondered if maybe that was born out of a little bit of frustration that you after you flew fifty eight combat missions and he actually pitched in the pacific want time to jump out you just took the plane down and they

rescue you by sobering tells us everyone is parachute to get them to open and didn't know i had i don't like an old guy selling more stories are true but i'm afraid of virginia how much i didn't wear were two really good start on that i wanted to do it either that they're the german you're remembering it's a little little dramatic but as the september second nineteen forty four and i was a vote with no that i play i didn't do it well ahead on the tail of rwanda and that was picked up rescued by severing that because i didn't work as perfectly as i like you thought it would i then decided it back out i will listen i like your job that i have made six or seven more barber has a funny way of expressing her enthusiasm for that she said that one way or another this will be your final

job festival different in their ballot people say why are you done some dumb like this and i'll tell you the answer is to to answer that one it says that just two year old enough to sit around rolling on the end and that we were nothing and it said the word the second one in the senate were globally around and around the world you get in and to step and i had more people from abroad mention this in the end it's a thriller it's a thrill we had an extraordinary career and tell us how you got started playing shows public service and he dedicated your entire life to that well i was lucky that i had a father who and co located and if his kids the idea that public service is a noble calling and i still feel i feel strongly about that we have at my library in texas and m george bush school of government and public service and the idea is to further that message public service is a noble calling in these tough times of the internet and

blogging and all as hannah stubbs and say a massive it's about people it's a good thing to do to get a project that idea that public service is noble and it is i really believe it so i came my chance to serve for having served in the navy and then decided that are trying to get into politics they get into where you worked with a lot of incredible people during your career one of the individuals that you serve was president nixon tells a little bit about president nixon then and down how you interacted with that would you call a cozy yet he was not asked about iowa so my career to him because he appointed me two things he appointed me to be the united nations representative permanent representative the un which i found to be struggling running running experience and i was in prison in that job was remember the cabinet that yes maybe have the

national committee which i did not find the roiling experience do you want to drive that he had been a lousy job how to be president of the republican party chairman republican party during watergate was gasoline and so the next it was a very interesting guy very bright very we have a kind of the downside and that he will read about those tapes and all but overall he was a good broad vision of that for america to be in the world and i owe him a great deal you want another all very interesting obviously a connection they had was president reagan waged a very spirited campaign against president reagan in nineteen eighty the new join him as his running mate what what do you remember most about that campaign in nineteen eighty nineteen eighty every losing their advantage but nobody i didn't know him well i knew him i was chairman national committee and he was a governor and so when he had a kind of a

group around in his family's big deal but he wasn't that way at all and i didn't really know rob reich and so when he asked me to be his running mate if you call a photo of a man out of a clear blue sky and the night before the convention was on it was the night before he had to make a decision on i said of course i will and the luckiest thing that ever happened to me because he was a kind man a strong man a decent man and he had a certain vision for our country so i my life than the rich by ronald reagan and he yeah he was he was wonderful to me and everyone everyone leave as were great team so that's really what that period of time was really remarkable and i guess a lot of historians say that president reagan's arguably along with fdr the two most successful presidents of

the last century but what the second labor and so successful he says he had a few principles and he abdicated any state whether reagan had many tax increases while he was president but it say i hate taxes on a lower taxed and then he does it very clear of what he really wanted and so when he had to accept compromise from the congress people were not suggesting that he left has betrayed his philosophy so he was very strong on that and the thing that i read the most was his common decency he would no more war ii out there in the art of white house fixing up the argument without standout of them married a huge would do that and he was kind of everybody and so i saw close to it what i had to say i won i got to be a good running mate this is so innate kindness and courtesy and it's just a wonderful warm human being and i think that did come through the american people in nineteen eighty

eight you saw presidency and were very successful at was stopped an extraordinary campaign it was it was up everybody expected a very close election because generally speaking is that is is everyone here knows when a party has been in power for eight years you haven't answered to go back the other way and yet you want to like hurrell call lancelot oh how do you feel about that campaign and what was your main goal when you took the oval office oh and winning the race i didn't have the problem of trying to run away from the president his record was good and strong and so it was easy for me to embrace most of what and it's iran contra came about as a hiccup in history so so i wouldn't try to distance between myself and my friend the president when i lived it so that i attribute it largely to the fact that in that time that that election prep

outlook a nominee would really running on a good record for the incumbent president man a lot easier than ever get one of the yeah visuals and we looked out over the dole institute easy being sworn in there's bob dole i knew he was really young he was really very successful to you are very humble to one resident there's an extraordinarily helpful and probably another you ran a good campaign and we're a political opponents and all that mess that they honor system you come together and work for a common good to come and go and i could not have had a better leader on our side he was absolutely wonderful and i was very proud of what he did is a leader in fact we got very emotional when i left the presidency that he put on tenor from a heartache it was the parents who were missing here and also in the americas i had great respect for

howard levy and an unbundled course that had this dinner at their analysis for me very emotional i've lost i feel badly about that hurdle is believe me it hurts a lot not so much for yourself and you just feel i've let down a lot of people it's tough and that both of them rich for nearly time and bob they're just follow and intact and character is that's the way he was to me when i have the whole thomas present you've had a number of remarkable accomplishments as president i think probably history will know you best for the first gulf war talk a little bit about the very oppressive coalition of allies that you assembled before ugly chose to go ahead and there n n n n n go to take military action but it was not without controversy and then the democrats made it a party line vote as to whether to give the president the authority to do it which was granted a united nations

resolution today quote use whatever means necessary unquote and the aggression against the way i took that seriously but before that i'd decided we had to do some of that and a lot of the women think we ought to they say georgia george mitchell it was then made a party line vote we were able to track several democrats to stay with us in voting for giving a president the thirty three fulfill a un resolution those controversial we forget that because of this some terrier way that our troops acted a big remember this is right in the wake of that unpleasant experience for the nation and out of the war when there were the road and our military really do the job and they perform and so it was scary not running up to it as the toughest decision i've read an estimate of a hit is when you send somebody else's son or daughter

in harm's way that nothing else can this is the toughest decision in a please please that's that's not respect i can only know now than the last two dollars to do the politics encourages civil and respectful the scores i sent mine suggested do you follow the plan soreness the president

assures us to ask you if it was just an extraordinary international coalition built to do that it will double in a collision low everybody was outraged by the by the brutality of saddam hussein and in a way and so they will somehow get some of that is something magical in a gas people in the neighborhoods and all of that it was pretty easy to mobilize the world opinion the weirdo what many nations on our side and coalition and they'll determine that the objective would be enough to kill him but that too just simply can't the aggression that was argo and thanks to a superb military and that's exactly what we did in one hundred one hundred hours we defeated the fourth largest army in the world we got that dictator out of the way and did what we set out to do and i think that's a good

lesson in history and that was it that was very clean in a lot of people we had some demonstrators beating drums on the front a white hat and a widely used class and then ruin your dinner but guys like this the expression to write for free skate and then i think the nation came together and certainly came together after it's over military could do that there was some doubts about a bathroom in one of the tough decisions on and then ask about this a lot about love to explain this to everyone here and you chose not to go into baghdad and to get rid of say well what was your thinking well there they go the objective as enshrined in the un resolution and are our policy was to eliminate the aggression just get get him out of the way i'll often wonder what would happen if he just picked up his weapons and moved back to the border between iraq and the way women are real dilemma that he didn't get elected to fight and that's really get clobbered

but i do it i think i think that what mitch there went once we once we had the victory there when i'm in any second thoughts about what will redefine the mission and without a coalition partners who would agree free independent neighbor nation that we would try to do is eliminate this rule aggression against a member of the un a kuwaiti and so one never heard of a law to expand the mission they only other actions that he took what utilities use the military forces and the panel talk a little bit about that decision is what animal as operation just cause and what was happening was an hour civilians down there and some military were being harassed by the pdf the noriega forces noriega was a convict to them international drug dealer and it was essential that we not

permit him to use those forces that he was dominating as a dictator to harass united states interested in and so that was for him for selena two major military action but it did serve a purpose and that is to say in the dictator who was condemned as an international drug dealer would have to face justice in fact he's in a prison over there in miami i think the day of an elemental and no text at what would you ask what would you characterize issue new greatest accomplishments as president obviously the goal toward be one of them but we'll go for in a sense not just because of the victory over and over to freak the way of the gulf or covenant and in this school art that our military was no good and our military was on the ropes after vietnam and they were in one of the proudest things our members when coming down constitution avenue ignore

shortz perfectly a lot of young men veterans paraded there too because when they came back and came back were spied upon you know the great but so i think that i think the fact that that only did the forces fighting on do well but the state and in the process list of the burden from the backs of people that we're serving as a volunteer volunteer army and serving in vietnam and that was kind of a collateral damage that we hadn't thought about which there are so many changes i john was a summary changes took place during their presidency they were the most dramatic things i'm curious about your thoughts when nine you were told that the berlin wall was coming down well i was an amazing amazing feeling in and i remember doing the diplomacy with gorbachev and with helmut kohl to try to get a tasteful you got to remember that the soviets had a lot of us troops in poland and hungary in the sport especially in the gdr the german democratic

republic east germany they were there and we didn't know how they were going to react you know the congress the room is based in the party that has been the power twenty odd twenty years ago i remember standing on the floor of the republican convention listening to your acceptance speech and it was so it was a stunning speech it's one of the best speeches i've ever

obviously president reagan's views but you're a famous line from that was read my lips no new taxes any kind i got it i got roped into tax increase a couple years after that you do you regret that it turned out that were saying that because it is such a clear clear verbiage it would've been a big issue but i was convinced i would and tried very hard not to but i did not want to see the government shut down again and i we had to make a compromise and in return for that modest increase but we get it we get it we benefited from some well some of the cuts insensitive some savings and i so i think i think in terms of the budget any effect on the economy improved and the right to enter into politics it proved to be wrong because the words are so so flamboyant that people never let me forget it and i can understand that

well our most everyone here knows that i worked for senator dole and worked for president reagan but most people don't know that i worked in both your campaign and eighty eight and ninety two which was prematurely two individuals that were critical in the ad campaign and were my good friends is well everybody's heard of lee atwater that everybody probably hasn't heard bob here to talk a little bit about liam bobbing in and how they were important to her to meet her andrea would you call the work the details and my water was a great from entertainer and he knew the bass a new word we need to get the vote out and he was he could tell you who won the alabama primaries back in nineteen seventy two in a good idea what happening in may nineteen sixty eight you'll always fact anyone a hard charger fighter when i was chairman republican national committee he had a big role they're working with the young republicans at all that more than that actually and that

he was he was he was a great political operative kader was pressed most experienced pollster in those ten republican did mostly republicans didn't all but i relied on him for polling information and there are both professionals and in politics you got volunteers are what give should have finished and we issue in my case got to start coming from an asterisk in the polls to win in the primaries but you need you need people like that who have the history and know them know the game you might say and so i think i was close to both of them about your unfortunate that capture and how to order their brain tumor but both are very good men and both for each corner a lot of it was saying set up that really amazes me about your career is that you've served continuously and you continue to do so today you've got together with president clinton and an incredible fundraising activities

on behalf of katrina tsunami victims ahmed what drives you to continue doing that when you you clearly know it's not something you have to do unknown of printed talk about being one of a thousand points alive and this is top to me in intro kid and i'm a buy my family my dad's service to others there can be no definition of a successful life does not include service to others and that's what that's all about and so when when katrina hit brooklyn and i join forces i hadn't seen that much of him after last time but that i have with it a pleasant relationship with women and that we decided to try to do something about it so we worked on a plane it went out of indonesia and i'm all the violence in sri lanka and that he was he treated me with great deference in kindness almost like a father that old but it was it

was extraordinarily thoughtful interview for example of one bed room on this erik was a us air force plane there's an official mission for the president and he did i said no no you take this room from iraq to follow that i'll take your next flight nine on the european union so i get on a pathway out from the west coast areas are allowed on the floor of the klan and the natural and he didn't have to do that music streaming considered kind of a mess i saw that and the difference you know some i hadn't seen close up and we work together and frankly we're good friends and a lot of my friends don't understand that we have a lot of different views and different thing but he's a heat he's been a joy to work with now we've done it again and the gulf coast oregon and new new fund or were trying to raise money to help him the out galveston in the gulf coast you're that in hurricane stricken and this is the joy of it one of a thousand points in life helping other

as with the center for obama not for very many of those things anymore will eat week as ted a very historic collection of our party was pretty decisively defeated what what's the future of the republican party in essence you're nineteen sixty four will center around to rain or heavy or wiped out to be a warrior lyndon johnson winning by huge majorities losing many seats in the congress two years later two years later we elected i think sixty two republicans i was one of them to the house representatives and we started back and so this what goes round comes around and i had a call president elect obama wished him well is that huge problems not of his making the tsa has to contend with and i think everybody ought to get behind him and support it but when it comes to how we're going to try to do these different things and what details of the window the economy here in international affairs

waning those of us who differ with him on some of the policy have the obligation speak out i will be all be idle be younger people more vital it when you are there and i am now but it's also i can fight well ok we be bipartisan we get word from rodrigo internet beautiful grows hoping now that it's a it's a it's a given republicans a ring in their hands and i didn't have a chance to talk to the governor about this she did a good job working for a candidate but the i wish him well i called him and told him that i had a nice conversation with him and i mean and sincere about it and he's got a huge many problems in front of them but it's a start let's face it probably just are so him a chance and then if we search messing up why i'm sure the royal loyal

opposition will do what it should do ok we're going to ask questions posed by the community as the president you were your own this up and elegantly with just one more question about president elect obama are speaking to based on your now sixty years plus of experience in public service what advice would you give him about serving as president i think that might be well as people returned to the city dear jarrod don't be deterred by interruptions and in the press on your case and all asked that you were just a kid right and he starts off with a pretty good vantage on my years of oppressive at the forum i had was opposed by the congress both houses of congress both for the opposition parties and so they started from day one going after me president obama will start with two people in the senate

and the house supporting and my advice would be just do it you think is right and that's so american people on it and if you take to get hammered on some legislation turns than a game but i think you'd be pretty well the beginning and then when i read the reality sets in and there's a huge job there are enormous problems out there that one president can sow and when the opposition says they were not going along with that even though republican opposition in the senate passes through a lot of summer tourism numbers is going to find the root tough realities of politics and unifying that you have to compromise so i don't think he needs any advice today we're having one is her victory but that i think we're supportive and i think he ought to prove we've made up i am trying to get his programs well the young you know the one thing that i would say about that about the president elect's victory in about where our party is is that unfortunately for the republicans we don't have the bench

that we had back in the sixties we don't have a george bush ronald reagan howard baker bob dole all those guys who are all seeking the presidency and i think that's going to be a real real challenge for us so we get some young leaders there that have come up in their turn the spotlight a fix on them and we'll say that there's some pretty good about that and they're not equipped or not to go away so i'm i'm somewhat coalition when i look at some of the individuals and i think that i think that as i said and sixty four they were down about three years later i'm not well we're going to ask our skin about her board members to come on out and now what we did is iconic mauna balance we solicited questions from the community and there and be presented by members western advisory board homeless resident lawrence kansas my question comes from procedures in the gulf from lawrence kansas as well all went to jail presence to those a lot more than what achievement in your presents are you most proud of that one well i don't

i think i think that this storm because it were renewed respect for the us military and i loved dealing with the military the part of many many years before that and it showed the united states and gave its word or something would follow through and see my firm belief is set on the same didn't believe we're gonna do what we did in that and that may further develop we did do that he'd win and i think we disabuse him of that and there is a message that transcend that what happened in iraq for that but i think i think the americans for disabilities act that week yeah get some credit for working with a country is to start with probably the best places civil rights legislation in the last twenty five years of offering people that start off with disabilities a chance of that starting line i think that was good we had some other we did pretty well in the environment so what i think i think the i think the thing that probably will be no tobacco stories about history hi mr president my name is julia girl blogger adam from

mcpherson kansas i don't really liking got to ask my own question democrat financial crisis do you believe that the historically conservative stances in support of cutting taxes and losing business regulations it can meet the needs of the middle class and decrease poverty in our country so i leave it will use those principle that will degrade property it can get right now we're in the middle of a financial crisis that has an underpinning for a full of philosophy i'm for that but it misses and i don't think that the question of re regulation this is what's causing problems we're facing today we're cyclical downturn not only here with the global look around the rest of the world and some of the countries that are enjoying it or fighting it or formal socialists and nature some are in the rest of the summer very conservative philosophy is and yet they're all facing the same problems so i think the thing is you know when to give up on your

fundamental principles of yours with the right if you believe the right again or just for the times to be pragmatic and practical when it comes to solving a dated april and i remember being in the tires on the voter id voter on the chrysler bailout of going instead the government stepped in and put a lot of money and chrysler indicated that now they're doing you know and he's in the bailout and i must confess to a certain being somewhat troubled by the use camel out they would be thrown out of their jobs if the government is able to step in and having said that you should advocate that this is one avenue from now on bail out every country company that's in trouble next question the president and santorum from coal with kansas and my question comes from owing talks from lawrence kansas being a former president and head of the cia what potential implications do you see in the possible closing

of the guantanamo bay detention center will this lead to an increased use of extraordinary rendition and how will affect our world standard i'm not sure i know enough about what the facts are on rendition of riddle of barack obama what's fact and what's not that have not been briefs and eleanor let me start by saying i go out a confidence in the cia i was head of it for one fascinating year and it was so different than what public opinion was and they're more ph and then finally and there are and in many cases smaller university more knowledgeable in their fields in the fields very from it you know whether through crop growth and always sang as well as fighting terror in the league you know what everybody thinks of as the ceo glen this election and so i don't i don't know it's a good question i just don't know the answer to but i don't think an ad only anything were going to lead to more of that in and delivery

it i've got some concerns about guantanamo myself but i don't think it's going to end all apologies terrace is not that well i don't want him was released back the middle east and was given that stuff again so we got to respect the rights of fable even even those that are fighting against us but we gonna be naive about and think that closing one cases have a solid pro you resident amanda applegate from wichita kansas and my question comes from representative ron were leaked to the next city and says considering a past relationship with china what guidance or assistance can you provide world leaders regarding china's role in serving solving our environmental an overwhelming pollution cuts well first place i think it's an absolutely essential with him as they spend all china that have served their human remembers as

ambassador could love them better before we had four relations back in the seventies barber and i had a fascinating time there and that i've been back there many times that i've been to china i think twelve or maybe more than that fifteen sixteen times since leaving the presents and all those leaders i don't believe is a comment is left in the bureaucracy and china are totalitarians when i first went there they had that little mouse redbook and eleanor reading it reading the dictatorship of the proletariat not not say that you don't get that anymore you have people that the reader as is don't show playing brought about this change of opening up markets free markets free up the markets and incentives for businesses and so china can teach us us as we can to help them i don't think they are they seek they're sitting in germany i don't think there's anything control over their neighbors as they were back in the post give them more days i think they want to be a member of the world community eu

which they didn't and i was at the un and they came in for the first time there are we could hardly get intimate with any any other country but now they're involved in all these international agency and they're smart people strong people get their own financial problems and they know they get the environmental problems in how much china for the games and for a moment they had beige and pristine the air was clear it all out when they do that to shut down oil don't really get off the road and i don't think you do that forever but i think they're aware that they've got a leadership role to play as quite different than it was when they first came into the international community and back then i don't think that felony responsibilities of all now they knew my the guy would give credit for was done champagne who brought them from his command economy into a market economy and also opened up china when we were living their barber now living there's your ambassador but what barrow we couldn't go to anyone's house

we couldn't be seen talking on the street chinese people following this episode thomas we looked into a store and it was very different you know it's very open and have that openness continues ice agent china continuing to be a major international player the big enough financially to be there anyway so michael says they left for china's has a neon and there it is my hope that they will play an important role in the future we do we better and neglect and that are on your own power or that they are that strong they are not seeking a gemini over their neighbors in my view their military today is insufficient you might say compared to us and some other nato powers but they're on the move and we ought not to sit on the sidelines snipe and then we understand all right next question well mr president my name is jesse vaughan and i'm

pronouncing kansas and my question today comes from cathy wiggins from atherton california please comment on what it was like to have your son followed in her footsteps and the white house's president more specifically what was your criteria for offering advice for says keeping an option it's based on three advisors oh well i doubt that i would not be a voice an iranian listen i'm a son we just don't work that when our family he won and there he did surround himself is very good people and he santa didn't really old song by frank i did it my way and so i'm very proud of him i think he's taken a lot of unfair hits bailey from some of the journalists the new york times and not the mud singling them out and delighted to have

your close family were very close family and i will be delighted on january twentieth when he gets back into the bosom of family out of this daily crossfire but i'm proud i've stayed out of the criticism that it's probably had some differences what i might've done if i'd been there but i got from day one which you asked about that i would not be oh man writing notes do it this way so honored in arguing about this policy or that and it's been tough on our family because you don't like to see some really that that we don't think your own good you don't like to see your own people get hurt are hammered away that he does not feel sorry for himself he doesn't listen thank you just said how does it with honor and i'll be glad to get tobacco the pain nice question comes from tens of the city from wichita kansas mr president when you're a candidate when you are a candidate for a

second term as president in nineteen eighty two he stated he won a kinder and gentler image nation which you mean by that and you think that america is more crime until now than it was in nineteen eighty two a movement a rhetorical flourish but what it meant was that we ought to not be arrogant we ought not to be a you know thrown away around and i think i think basically the american people understood what i meant and whether we are not let the historians decide that i think we probably are people that are very critical of of our policy in iraq of us in the simple question would you want to bring back so that was i don't know i don't do that i mean these calls are not easy for president so on that one and there's a lot of controversy even hear much about in the campaign while this feeling better the surge is successful and so i think it's a little early to talk about how history will judge has been in terms

of my device and all the things that a barber the next question comes from richard norton smith from alexandria virginia who was the first from a director of vigilance to politics you were criticized in some quarters for not going to berlin when the lead when the wall fell and in effect doing a victory lap or modesty aside what are the factors that lead you to forgo the ultimate photo op ed you feel you were ultimately justified in your decision oh i really respect for assurance smith and he sighs that up as the ultimate photo op and here's what happened i was sitting in the oval office and soon round guess there's some reporters huddled around and one and said can't you express the american motion the american people feel as walls coming down ten to do would get our images senior moment here

when mitchell remembers a jesse ago and dance on the wall well i didn't tell or because the stupidest idea i ever heard you yet when workers very polite and i think the reason was we did not know how the soviet military was going to react we nude and gorbachev subsequently said he didn't know how they're written about and they went in they were down on him for for his role working with the west and we didn't know what that wouldn't that would be the final straw that broke the camel's back and so what we decided we would could not run the soviets nose in the fact that that they lost we won that kind of thing in the victory lap of a good way to study you know they might get three points in the polls but you might also diminish the us the chance for a final peaceful solution remember the berlin wall came down not one single shot was fired and

in an area of occasional germain not one single shot with fire and so sometimes it's better not to overreact and i mean from reston said we did it you know and parade around and i don't think it cost the united states anything and i can tell you and gorbachev is socially tell others mandate that if we'd have done it differently he didn't know is in the survivors as president says soviet union and that well got very close as we speak quite frankly and that at that that was not easy for the a nice to go over there and see the hard work of many predecessors a monday vindicated and i think we made the right calls sometimes it's better to be a gecko you were good then a car at night and it would be prudent the poem the fruit and forgo the headline and look at that look at what follows a lot and so i'm very proud of our

reaction her team's reaction to that and the results speak for themselves violently to the right that i think that they saw what you just said that you're not as pleased with dana carvey in person and he was bob dylans with dan ackroyd he was very fond of that well i like harvey is so he was there the other day in houston and he and i went over there and it's a little stand up all along the same line a man and his humor incidentally never would mean it was never use your stomach time it was never it was never hurtful or never you never thought was vicious and some of these guys a day that the name of humor just go right for the juggler and he didn't do that and so i like the mayor and the piecemeal on baghdad they are not yet there it went on like this is a good lesson for me and the way he is in the way he conducts himself in very popular incumbent pleasing the

mindset that he was not a master yet we have time for one last question and readable asked us president this question comes from jonathan oral of lawrence kansas do you think there'll be another president with an ambush i don't really see that we get a guide that was governor of florida who's of support governor and i come from the father in the uk for most people on both sides of the aisle in florida and jim left office with a very high ratings very strong very policy oriented and i don't think he's got politics totally out of the system and are very candid i hope not in spite of it the nastiness in the political arena today than we are up starring george plea who has the edge of his oldest son handsome guy anderson politics surprisingly and lawyer name it naval reserve in the naval reserve and i'm very proud of it and i think i think maybe he will go and apartments there need not

aren't enough to start a run for president they were nothing in the political arena deals seasoning out there when you got over the goal is that it's afternoon you get to meet some of the members of the state advisory board the folks of the national questions we've got a link over at bowl scholars here today attending what advice would you give to these young men and women who are following a career or won't fall accountable is a route that you volunteer life committee your life to the service of other people what advice would you guys and they are better example when bob dole i think they can you know services noble services and and participating in the political process is a device that the captor shouting and you know crimea name in the paper about that participating in the process he hadn't all been assemblies campaign run for office or sell help somebody out and then you get the feeling other than that i think your dress essentially

as stable and so it's it's good and it's got yellen may have been bothered me anymore i mean it's it's just goes into character and you have to have to get used to it you may not like it but it gets the process works and i think president elect obama when he started offering as hillary clinton nobody in a snowball's chance but he did he'd stayed with it put together a great coalition of supporters and sent a huge example by the majesty of his win so it can happen and i think and then what hat would support him or not young people on the internet audiotape oh in the campaign itself there's a good example and we've had mccain have the same support from people so i just said don't despair the guys that strike it is your turn a visitor up whining about all the time then again roussel unless the foot on my god

forbid those well mr president the radar for us to have you here today and this is the bold leadership rise forty thousand eight and down we again thank you so much for coming to accept that we appreciate your service to your country thank you so much you know the president george herbert walker bush and bill lacy the director of the dole institute of politics at the university of kansas it was recorded november sixteenth two thousand eight at the leed center i'm kay macintyre k pr presents is a production of kansas public radio at the university of kansas says it's time and keep your presents thanksgiving is just days away for thanksgiving we keep your presents talking to charity we'll take a look at

how we celebrate this holiday week paul raber is the host of liner notes tape aboard the ship the queen mary the second will hear from food historian betty fussell about our traditional and non traditional as we think thanksgiving foods we'll also hear from three members aboard the queue and two about how these fees and hometowns name is and before we get too sentimental well hear about one family's thanksgiving traditions at howard johnson's paul colin barrett will be your host for talking turkey a plaque next sunday night on kansas public radio what is your drawing up your shopping list for your own thanksgiving feast will hear from dustin dwyer he's trying to buy local this holiday it's one hundred mile meal a homegrown thanksgiving

i want to look at labels on most who don't care so much about the nutritional and so i just wanna know where it came from but there's a problem with that even if i know or something is packaged i still have no idea where the actual ingredients come for i mean where the heck they make partially hydrogenated soybean oil i have no idea and so for one meal for the most important meal of the year i decided to try to get all my food and all the ingredients in my food from within a hundred miles of my apartment in southeast michigan if you're impressed by my ingenious and creative idea dopey i stole it from someone else alisa smith and her partner james mackinnon were on a hundred mile diet for year and the writing a book about it i called the police or for some help so my wife american two hundred mile thanksgiving and so i want to ask some advice well for doing a thing amelia paid a very good time to do it because of the harvard bounty thought makes life a lot easier i

think an excellent this could be a piece of cake but i'm worried about a few tough ingredients such as salt elisa's assault is a problem for a lot of people but i think in the end you probably will find that fault even available and not being able to go to make yourself you might say ok well thought it could be an exception for us ok fine but i still want to make his few exceptions as possible i have a challenger somehow that said our menu would be simple just turkey mashed potatoes stuffing and pumpkin pie turkey turned out to be easy christine her party has been living on her family's turkey farm in suburban detroit all her life crimes like this one are getting crowded out more and more by suburban sprawl there's even a brand new subdivision next door to christine's place there that offers for her land to and it is in nature i like knowing that christine actually enjoys

this and cares about and made me feel good and that's important because i was also paying a lot more for her turkey and the store bought stuff anyway as flying high things are going really well i was the exception says firming up and it was mostly spices salt plus all the spices for the pumpkin pie then while i was bragging at work about how i build it almost everything but salt from a local dinner someone reminded me that there are actually salt mines under the city of detroit like a good journalist i looked into it and ended up on the most absurd shopping trip okay i'm headed over the ambassador bridge from detroit windsor ontario of salt mines in detroit they don't sell that salt salt to us they resell road so if we sold its neighbor than a hundred miles of my house because of some trade regulation i don't understand table salt

from this mine can't be commercially shipped into the us so i ended up in a city i barely know looking for a grocery store and i went into the first and then the second half of the fight then an hour or so later in particular is being themselves so i wasted a lot of fuel putting his dinner together it's probably still an improvement over what the sierra club says is an average two thousand miles of driving that goes into each ingredient for my usual tenor but here's the thing if all this local stuff is available i think i should be all to get it at the grocery store down the street should probably let them know that and what the norm willing to pay more for it i mean that's better than driving to canada for assault anyway but making that happen with take a lot more effort a lot more building with my pocketbook and a lot more than just checking labels for the environment and us and what you've just heard one hundred mile

meal like dustin dwyer our look at thanksgiving continues next monday with talking turkey to join us in a club sunday night for this thanksgiving weekend special it comes to us as did one hundred mile meal from pr at the public radio exchange i'm katie mack entire keep your prisons is a production of kansas public radio at the university of kansas ms

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