Le Show; March 26, 2023

From deep inside your audio device of choice. Ladies and gentlemen, the story up to now, in late August of 2005, a hurricane called Katrina approached the Mrs. Hapigulf coast. The hurricane did severe hurricane damage, blue houses down along the Gulf Coast of Louisiana Mississippi. It then moved inland and passed about 30 miles to the northeast of New Orleans, Louisiana. It did not directly impact or smash New Orleans. But what did happen at the same time is that the storm surge from the hurricane traveled from the Gulf to Lake Pontgetrain on the other side of New Orleans and burst through the

floodwalls of three canals meant to transfer rain water from the city into Lake Pontgetrain. The storm surge tumbled the walls lining those canals and other breaches of the protective system, so-called, in approximately 50 different places across the city, all cooperated in flooding approximately 80% of the city. The Congress, in its wisdom, told the agency that it's built, that had built that system, which it admitted later was a, quote, system, a name only, unquote, to try again and gave it $14 billion to design and construct a new, improved, protective system, which the

Corps of Engineers called a risk reduction system, we don't protect nothing. We reduce risk. The initial installation of that system included some pumps along the three canals that connect the city to the lake. A whistleblower from the Corps, Maria Garzino, reported on this show, and in a subsequent feature documentary, that those, and by the way, the Corps of Engineers, she informed her employers, that the initial pumps for that new system did not and would not work. She had supervised their initial testing and installation. And the word from the Corps in delayed response to those revelations was, well, we had to hurry up because it was coming on the beginning of the next hurricane season, and we figured

some protection was better than none. So they installed the defective pumps, which were supposed to, originally, the Corps told Congress, last 50 years. Only they were now temporary pumps, and that meant that the Corps was going back to Congress for pretty much the same amount of money that they spent on the temporary pumps to install permanent pumps. These would be, you see, better pumps. Flash forward to two weeks ago, when it became known that some of the new permanent pumps supposed to last, well, permanent, 35 years, were corroding and were corroded after just five years. And here we are. It's like the Corps of Engineers doesn't get what you need to do to have working pumps.

Now this is an agency entrusted by our federal government with the responsibility for building harbours, canals, dredging rivers, building dams. They seem to have a lot of work to do with water and certain metallic materials. And yet, when the corroded pumps were discovered and made public, the Corps's response is, we're going to have to do some research and find out why this happened. They've been working with water and metal materials for the last hundred years. Our motto, as I've reminded you more than once, is, let us try.

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The water would ever rise up again in our lives This is Lesho and this week we had the pleasure of seeing an awful lot of writing by people who had had publicly taken a position regarding the Iraq war given the fact that it was this week the 20th anniversary of shock and awe of the beginning of that war

A lot of people were either re-evaluating what they had said back then in the light of subsequent events or doubling down or doubling up And it struck me that it might be a good time to once again focus on what we didn't know and when So I saw a piece written by my next guest here in the program which was an adventurous tale of trying to get to Baghdad at the beginning of the war by a respected and adventurous correspondent Who reminds us if we need any more reminding we should of the difference between what most so-called reporters do which is repeating and what a hearty few do which is actual reporting going there and seeing for themselves

He's Peter Moss who's written among other things for the New York Times and the New Yorker currently with the Intercept Welcome to the show Peter It's great to be on your show Harry. Thanks a lot. Thank you. I want to talk about the more current piece in a moment but the one that you wrote that has remained in my head for a years now was a piece you wrote I believe for the New Yorker about the toppling of Saddam's statue So that was a story that actually was published in 2011 so you know eight years after the invasion culminated with the top of the statue and in Ferdinand Square and Baghdad And I was at Ferdinand Square and Baghdad when that happened I had kind of as as you know work respondents luck would have it

I've been following the battalion that kind of crushed into Baghdad and tore down that statue and I didn't write about that event that day the toppling of that statue You know for years until eight years later because when I was there at the time I it was kind of a joky thing almost and to you know some of my other colleagues who were there They had the same feeling this this was you know like a Sidelight just something that you know soldiers did but it wasn't an important event and so I didn't write about that I was toppling at the time and because I didn't think it was so important I was I was unconnected literally to what was being seen of the war by vast numbers of Americans and others because I wasn't watching TV I was there so I didn't know at the time that this event was even being broadcast live and I didn't know that it was being repeated ad nauseam in America particularly and was being taken everywhere particularly in the halls of power

As a signal major event that showed that Iraq was liberated Iraq was free the invasion the war was over it was a great American triumph I had no idea that this narrative was immediately taking place and the visual of this statue being toppled was kind of a foundation of it And so it was only kind of once I got back to the US and realized that this was a bigger thing that I began to kind of you know think that maybe I should write about it but it took a long time actually to reach out to everybody who was involved in it The Marines the journalists the editors the academics who had studied it to really kind of get a 360 degree appreciation of what happened in a wide a day What I think Americans saw or think they saw was a rabid crowd of Iraqis surrounding the statue and pulling it off its pedestal

Was that an accurate reflection of what you saw there in the square that day? That was known not what you know I saw and and what you know people there saw or experienced because the square itself was fairly large and there are a lot of streets leading to it And if you kind of zoomed out from some of these close-ups that everybody was looking at of some Iraqis who were there the square was largely empty and also perhaps let's say there were a couple hundred five hundred at peak people in the square during the toppling As many as half were journalists and you know Marines who weren't on point you know was there the weapons pointed that you know nearby buildings who were just kind of building around in the crowd

So you did not have a large crowd of Iraqis there and what you saw with some Iraqis who were you know sledgehammering the base of the statue And celebrating its toppling was just a handful of Iraqis really but they occupied the entire frame of the pictures the videos that people in America were seeing So it did seem like oh my gosh there are all these Iraqis and they're all so happy it was a handful and they didn't represent by and large what was going on in the rest of the country Even in the rest of Baghdad even a few blocks away where there was still fighting and leading it already begun Who was actually doing that most of the work on the toppling was it Iraqis or was it Marines or is it a combination Well the phrase the work is something you kind of need to unpack in terms of you know who was doing the work on the toppling because the working involves a lot of actors

I mean it involves you know obviously you saw some Iraqis with a sledgehammer in the initial phases of this toppling kind of sledgehammering the pillar at the base of the statue And then you saw a little bit later not too much later some Iraqis there was a rope that was thrown around the statue itself and they were pulling on the rope unsuccessfully And then you know finally what happened in terms of how the statue was actually taken down of course and I think somewhat famously was you know a Marine tank recovery vehicle that had a crane attached a chain to the top of the statue and then pulled back and the statue came down And that was you know a Marine vehicle that did it it was not literally in the hand Iraqis who tore down the statue it was it was US Marines with a tank recovery vehicle who did it But then a lot of the work in terms of the toppling was I guess the word instigated is probably right by the journalists who were there

Not in the sense of journalists telling Iraqis to do anything and not even journalists kind of you know intending for anything that they did to have an impact on events But journalists who were there and and their cameras particularly photographers and video cameras pointed at the statue actually drew people there And you can tell I kind of forensically went over all the video of this event that when there are journalists at the statue taking their pictures you know shooting their video There are Iraqis there and they are very excited but when the journalist kind of some of them gotten their pictures and you know moved on other things Iraqis also started to move on to other things and it's actually a phenomenon that's not unusual you know where cameras present themselves where cameras are aimed people will often be drawn to that and react to it And then you get events like this which are in the words of one you know American historian pseudo events that are kind of affected by and sometimes you know created for the benefit of cameras

Now as I recall your piece because it rang so true for me in a completely different context I did a talk at the National Press Club after the flooding of New Orleans And I cited your piece as a reminiscent of what we saw what I saw in the aftermath of the flooding of New Orleans which was that the first glimpse of an event seen by editors and producers in New York It becomes the template for all future coverage regardless of what may become public knowledge in subsequent days weeks or months and every piece of reportage about it going forward has to reinforce the original template or it's ignored You suggested in the New Yorker piece that some journalists on the scene in the square were saying to editors and producers in New York or wherever their institution was headquartered

Let us pull back and show that it's not a big crowd of Iraqis toppling Stadam Statue and that the response was no we're watching CNN we want that story Do I do I recall correctly? Yeah the phrase that you use is a really great one I think it was original template once original templates and whether we're talking about New Orleans and Katrina or whether we're talking about Baghdad and here the square and you know all kinds of different historic events once an original template is established it can be really difficult to push back successfully To show that actually this original powerful template is inaccurate particularly when that you know template not only has the support of you know news organizations but particularly has the support and serves the interests of the government itself And so with you know with respect to what happened in Baghdad and this is one of the things that to me was was you know revelatory because I hadn't investigated it before I really kind of got into working on this story

Because I knew that the journalists because I talked to them they were friends of mine or others who I wasn't friends with but gotten touched with afterwards to find out you know what their experience of the square was a lot of them you know did not think it was a serious important event And there was one particular photographer photographer for Newsweek who was on his satellite phone standing in Fierta Square talking with his editor in New York While this statue kind of this two hour long process was going on being broadcast live on American television And the editor said you know like why are you talking in the phone right now why are you taking pictures and the photographer I recorded in my story Gary Knight a fantastic amazing photographer You know said to the editor well it's just it's not an important event there's so much going on here this is you know soldiers you know been taking down some statues of Saddam across this country or placards from the first day it's not a big deal there's a lot going on

Elsewhere bag that's more important and the editor said look I'm watching this this is the the big news event your job is to take pictures get off the phone take pictures And this was something that was repeated you know in conversations between a number of photographers and writers who were in in bag that and the editor is back home And one of the things that I did for this story is like I track down some of these editors and and one of them a CNN editor who spoke to me was in charge of the control room at CNN that day And it was it was a fascinating conversation and this which relates directly to kind of this establishment of the original template and how it gets established You know is the tail wagging the dog or or not and and the editor was saying you know look we knew that the Marines were going to be you know entering Baghdad that day And all the journalists were at Firdo Square because the hotel they all had been corralled into during the invasion by the Iraqi authorities the Palestine hotel was right at Firdo Square

So they had their camera equipment already there already kind of broadcasting live before the Marines arrived the Iraqi security services had kind of vanished overnight because the Americans were taking full control of the of the city at the time and so you know this editor well since they're not I also quoted in the story it's telling me that you know we were looking for an image that would express the arrival of the Americans in Baghdad and you know the liberation of the city the liberation of the country And we had our cameras at Firdo Square and there was a statue of Saddam there and we just we knew that this was going to be the image the moment that we were waiting for the Marines coming into Firdo Square liberating Firdo Square law is on television and so the moment that the video monitor that he was watching in this you know what other dozens in his control room the moment the video monitor showing Firdo Square displayed the arrival of the first American military vehicles he immediately went to it because that was the image that he was waiting for the Americans coming to Firdo Square and liberating it

And one of the ironic things that that he told me that also you know confirmed elsewhere was that you know CNN had other correspondence in other parts of Baghdad with the US Army on the other side of the river for example and one of the Martin Savage was ready to report on you know violence and including that he was seeing going on but he wasn't allowed to because they decided this is the image the Firdo Square image and that's what we're going to and so it's a decision an editorial decision made by somebody in Atlanta you know that determined for CNN at least and I think you know the thinking was fairly similar amongst other editors in America but determined that this was the event of the day that not only you know we broadcast live but you know continuously for hours and then repeated kind of ad nauseam after it if you had asked you know journalists at Firdo Square you know what do you think should be broadcast you know they would have said I think most of them well okay fine you know the statue falling and be toppled is is an interesting visual that fine you know broadcast that for a little bit but there is so much else going on in this city that is of greater importance and that's what you should be telling your viewers about but that's not what happened.

Tell me a little bit about your adventure and getting to Baghdad in the first place at the outset of the war. Well always what's called a unilateral journalist the American military you know somewhat famously before the invasion began decided to have a program of embeds and that's where they choose a certain number of journalists and maybe a couple hundred overall and to be kind of dispersed with different military units journalists would wear military uniforms their transportation and their food and everything would be provided by the military they'd move in military vehicles and you know they would report on what their units were doing or what the commanders units would allow them to broadcast or transmit at the time but there were a great number of journalists you know who were not you know provided with or did not want to be embedded with the military because you have no control if you're embedded with the military unit over what you see you see what you know that unit is doing but you can't go somewhere else on your own in your own vehicle it's a very restrictive way of reporting.

So I was one of these unilateral journalists who you know I went to Kuwait city rented an SUV from Hertz Hyundai SUV and then on the you know three dawn darkness of March 20th when you know the land invasion is happening tried to cross the border with the photographer is working with long of understopped who was in its own vehicle and in our first attempt it was still dark it was like 4 a.m. American soldier from the darkness as we were kind of actually driving across the border started shouting at us you know turn your lights off you know stop right now and we stopped and and it camouflaged his face and he's like get out of here you know I almost shot you guys so we had to turn around and then you know you know journalists unilateral journalists were not allowed across the official border points by the U.S. military because they didn't want unilateral journalists who they can control reporting. And so what law who was kind of driving in front of me did eventually was there's like an empty area that he drove across and we assumed it was probably mind but you know he walked around it first and didn't see any clear evidence of that and then he drove slowly and told me to drive about 50 yards in his tracks behind him so he was taking most of the risk.

And we crossed into Iraq that way and and there were about a dozen other journalists total who kind of had managed to sneak across some of them kind of pretending to be U.S. military wearing military clothing to get across these checkpoints where the U.S. military was flowing over the border and then long story short for about not even six hours. We kind of completely were on our own and we drove down a road towards Basra which is the second largest city in Iraq just about 50 kilometers from the Kuwait border because the Americans right at the border that we had just kind of all illegally crossed told us that there were other American units ahead of us but we started driving down the road towards Basra and we noticed that there were Iraqi soldiers of white flags trying to surrender to us. So we realized no there hadn't been any American or British troops down this road and so we immediately turned around and had it back and you know so luckily we weren't shot or captured by Iraqis and luckily as we spread back to the Americans we weren't shot by them either because you know we were a bunch of SUVs coming at them at high speed.

They recognized us fortunately other journalists in the same kind of situation a day later actually had gotten shot and killed by by the Americans recognize them so we we then kind of unofficially just followed one American unit after the other hopscatching north towards Baghdad. How long did you stay or how long were you in Iraq all told during the course of the war. The invasion I was there for a couple of months I left I think in July so I was there for whatever March April, May June I think in return July and then I made two or three other trips back each time for about a month, 2004, 2005 and then I got married and one of the stipulations was that I wouldn't go to complex zones anymore which I was for a stipulation I was very pleased with actually. I had I had you know since the 1990s covered different conflicts starting with the war Bosnia and I've been very fortunate in kind of nothing nothing hurt but I've seen colleagues of mine you know injured and killed and obviously a lot of civilians as well as soldiers and so I knew the dangers and and you know it's going to catch up with you at some point so.

I was I was very aware of just the parallel mortality of what I was involved in and so you know I was I was ready to to you know take it down a notch or two. Finally you said to me I don't know if we were yet on the air but you said you had a strong opinions about that war premier time there and whatever else you've gathered over the intervening years how would you describe those feelings. Fury at what happened which was an illegal invasion that you know caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands if not more than a million Iraqis as well as you know 5,000 or so Americans destruction you know physical mortal psychological of a country.

Fury that that happened but then that kind of you know theory this is not I also be position perhaps to be in is kind of you know now hasn't. Or has accumulated in the last 20 years a new level of fear as opposed over the fact that that original outrage is is not really recognized to the extent that it should be by the country that's responsible for America and in particular. The people the leaders political and military who were responsible for it themselves have not been blamed for it have escaped any blame and in fact and maybe this is even a third level of fury have been rewarded for it have not suffered forget about blame i'm not suffered any inconvenience professionally and have you know just continue to. Assend whether it's in journalism whether it's in the academic world whether it's in the political and military world.

There has been no reckoning no consequences for the people who were responsible and and maybe this is now a fifth level of theory. When I come to anniversaries like this no prospect of that happening anytime soon particularly when you look at some of the stories are many of the stories that have been written on this anniversary that are as you mentioned at the beginning. Denying the essence of what happened or trying to excuse it away. You know we are I feel in some way you know when I hit anniversaries like this I feel that I'm I'm in a very small number of people with these sensations that we are a defeated country but we don't know it and we certainly don't act like it. You know there were reckonings when there were colossal military and you know human rights abuse failures in other countries there are reckonings that defeat imposed on them but you know America does not regard itself and certainly is not engaged in the world in any way as a defeated nation so we feel no pressure.

To really examine it in any significant way I mean even something as milk toast as a truth commission. What happened why but particularly who is responsible and and they should be named and recognized as being responsible and you know obviously this begins with former president George W Bush vice president Dick Cheney and you know many other people around them who are still alive. And who are you know very cherished on the numbers of our society strangely. Doesn't the army as a practice do an after action investigation and report on its own efforts in major things like wars. There are after action reports on you know the invasion on you know various different phases of the war yeah they've got plenty of those and you know you can you can read yourself to sleep for the rest of your life reading them but and I've read a number of them.

Some of it's revealing it's useful if you're trying to piece together yourself what happened why who the key people were what some of those stakes were I mean these documents are useful. Historical documents but are they truth telling consequence lady documents no and and I don't really think they're intended for that either. Well I guess the only consequence that occurs to me is Judy Miller is no longer at the times yes but not even for the reason that she should no longer be with the New York Times. Judy Miller New York Times correspondent who wrote some of the most kind of you know fictional stories for the New York Times however you know it's just one journalist and there were so many others and there were editors and it's very easy.

And it's too easy I'm both I'm going to my career has been mostly as a writer but the last decade I've also been an editor and senior editor at the intercept now and there is a huge responsibility that editors have and should bear for errors that reporters make I mean there's a reason there are editors it's so that writers don't just immediately publish and I you know I'm also a writer and God forbid that you know there will be no editor editing. And the editors job is to make sure that you know reporters rights well founded articles and if they don't I mean yes blame the reporter but you also should blame the editor that it's really there their principal you know you have one job. Their task and so I think pointing the finger just to Judy Miller is too easy too small to continue.

Peter Maas thank you so much for sharing your Iraqi experiences in this 20th anniversary you know there are people just coming of age just learning about all this and I think it's important to remind them of how far off the rails we really went thank you again. Thank you Harry thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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It charged him with various forms of fraud. And the biggest US banks have not stepped forward to welcome homeless crypto businesses scrambling for banking services after fleeing the wreckage of those three banks that went by by couple weeks ago. CoinDesk.com asked the top 20 banks by assets if they were taking on crypto customers especially these businesses that recently lost their banking homes in the recent carnage. Most of them remained silent on the question some including JP Morgan Chase City Group Bank of New York, Melon Morgan Stanley, declined to comment others were open about saying they aren't comfortable taking on crypto clients. Key bank original lender in Ohio is around the size of the institutions that crypto clients have been accustomed to using.

A spokeswoman there said the bank is focusing on those that meet its quote moderate risk profile crypto focused firms do not fall within this category at this time she said. And citizens financial group among the larger regional banks said it doesn't have quote direct credit exposure to crypto digital asset businesses. And it's not something we're looking to get into at this time according to a spokesman they both like to say at this time as if this is going to change at some other time. Maybe they're waiting for crypto spring will news about micro plastics traces of nanoplastics there smaller than micro plastics. May interfere with the stem cells from which tissues and organs generally originate this would disrupt the early stages of development in chicken embryos that's according to a new study published in environmental international. The team utilized fluorescent microscopes to observe how nanometer scale plastic particles were injected into chick embryos and how they traveled over the embryonic gut wall into their various organs.

One in four of the chicken embryos had abnormally small eyes due to the nanoplastics this according to interesting engineering dot com. In news of this smart world south b's the auction house that began showcasing NFTs a couple years ago appears to have brokered what could be its most disappointing digital art showcase yet. The auction of 58 lots of yielded middling prices at best top selling piece got fifty four thousand six hundred dollars that was below south b's estimated closing price. Between seventy five thousand and a hundred seventy thousand dollars quite a bit below it was a far cry also from the whopping eleven point eight million dollars a single crypto punks NFT fetched during a June 2021 south b's auction.

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Anyone entering the premises is fair game to be scanned ejected and banned scanned detected and banned same James Dolan proprietor of Madison Square Garden entertainment as a long history of ousting his detractors. The current usage seems to be laser focused on lawyers representing people who have cases against msg or one reason or another like they don't like James Dolan. Representatives for msg alleged that all potentially impacted parties had previously been apprised of the policy seems to be in effect for all employees at firms involved in litigation not just the attorneys who are directly involved in those cases. The ban ironically has led to more litigation and now the apologies of the week.

A Dallas man convicted of capital murder in 1998 has been freed after new DNA testing exonerated him authorities say Martin Santillian was accused of fatally shooting a man in 1997 after trying to rob the victim outside a nightclub. Santillian who was 23 at the time maintained his innocence while serving a life sentence review of his case that started in 2021 used newer DNA technology to identify someone else who has since been arrested in Colorado. The Dallas County District Attorney's Office apologized for a miscarriage of justice quote remains our job to correct past wrongs which is what the team in my office worked tirelessly to do said the DA we owe it to Mr. Santillian to clear his name fully and completely I sincerely apologize to him and his family for this miscarriage of justice and I'm proud to say that today justice has been done for him. Prosecutors say they will continue to produce the case against the real shooter.

We should call OJ he's good at that a variety of celebrities are calling on Candace Owens for criticizing a Skims advertising campaign featuring a model in a wheelchair. Owens sparked outrage on social media for blasting a 2022 campaign for Kim Kardashian's Skims shapewear brand that included a model in a wheelchair to promote adaptive clothing for those with disabilities. Owens called the campaign ridiculous and Claire and declared she was tired of this all inclusivity thing quote unquote. Christina applicator has multiple slurosis took aim at Owens comments on Twitter praise certain brands for representing the disabled community in their collections and campaigns quote this Candace person making comments about companies who we need who see we need help it's effing gross I think skims and some of the brands for seeing us Christine applicator kind of so as you know when you've seen pictures of me how feng hard it was to get my clothes on a team has to help me so I'm excited for accessibility clothing for me in my community. No rage of Camus wants to get on the phone with me to be educated on being disabled I will not come with anger I will come with love because she needs to hear that unquote Christine Applegate of the celebrities and influencers on Twitter were equally flabbergasted by Owens latest comments Owens responded by explaining the team at the Daily Wire

conservative show didn't know the ad featured adaptive technology for those with disabilities she made quote an honest mistake if you felt personally targeted by this mistake I apologize to you I apologize conservative commentator Candace Owen I want to frame that one open AICO Sam Altman feels awful about chat GPT leaking some users chat history on Monday blame the open source library bug for the snafu he admitted the flaw which allowed some users to see snippets of others conversations with the question and response bot quote we had a significant significant issue in chat GPT due to a bug in an open source library for which a fix has been released and we've just finished validating

Oldman said a small percentage of users were able to see the titles of other users conversation history we feel awful about this because of the buggy code chat GPT users won't be able to access most of their March 20 conversations he says open AI plans to follow up with a technical postmortem about the privacy breach according to Oldman the formerly nonprofit business did not respond to inquiries from the British tech journal to register there's no word yet on when the fix will be released and when they post mortem will publish either the lead data scientist at Caspersky a digital lab told the register the chat GPT users should read the small print and forget any illusion of privacy chat GPT warns on login that conversations may be reviewed by our AI trainer

and spokesman for Caspersky noting the web demo and the API for businesses use different interfaces so from the very beginning the user should have had zero expectations of privacy when using the chat GPT web demo unquote deadline silver spring Maryland Whole Foods market is apologizing to a local woman who believes she was discriminated against because she was wearing a hijab I was so confused and shocked Buhit al-Jabri told the local TV station she said she just finished paying for groceries in her neighborhood Whole Foods when she was singled out by a security guard who accused her of stealing I'd given the receipt thinking is doing his job just like a few shop at Costco what shocked me is that even though he had the receipt in his hand he keeps insisting that I didn't scan the items al-Jabri said he kept yelling in front of people it was so humiliating and so many people turned around she called for help another employee confirmed she hadn't stolen the thing he targeted me she says because the way I dress

quote Whole Foods we're truly sorry for the experience miss al-Jabri had in our store the individual involved works for a third party and is not a Whole Foods market team member his actions were not acceptable the store leadership team immediately reported the incident the individual in question no longer works in our stores quote the response from Whole Foods it falls short of what we're looking for said the Maryland director of the council for Islamic American Islamic relations they're calling for Whole Foods to pull security footage and launch a full transparent investigation and al-Jabri said despite being a regular customer she won't go back into the store again she could wear jeans and a t-shirt the BBC has halted filming on season 34 of top gear popular show about cars after presenter Andrew Freddy flint off was involved in an accident on the show's test track last December says BBC we have a sincerely apologized to Freddy and will continue to support him with his recovery unquote not Corey Freddy the apologies of the week latest gentleman copyrighted feature of this broadcast

quote the response from Whole Foods it falls short of what we're looking for said the incident on the show's test track last December what's going to do it for this week's edition of the show the program it turns next week same time that's weird on these same radio stations and whenever you want it that's weird on your audio device of choice now would just be like Donald Trump actually being indicted this week if you'd agree to join me then what do you want to thank you very much

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