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says his audiences feel about the programming on public tv and radio the corporation for public broadcasting is holding a series of town hall meetings across the country to find out and discover what north texas have to say next

nina barbara sanders when you watch television or listen to public radio what kind of programming he gets his accounts and balanced and diversify what about the quality of our shows these are questions the corporation for public broadcasting cpb like answered cpb was created by congress to distribute federal dollars to the public broadcasting system cpb also is accountable for this money so to gauge how public broadcasting is doing cpb board members are traveling to different cities and meeting with audiences dallas is one of the cities three directors who are with us she would tape is the chairman of the cpb board martha buchanan his vice chairmen is from san antonio board member carolyn bacon is with doubts they'll be interacting with audience with a cymbal people from dallas cullen devin and tear and counties have of them have been selected randomly bio is

research and development of dallas based television research firm to assure us of represented the demographics and viewpoints others an audience or invited members of the community in order to find people who watched or listened to public broadcasting in our area or his research and development conducted a telephone survey four hundred people who were familiar with kbr a dvd and tv were asked what they like and dislike about the station's the positive come as outrank the negative about eight to one positive comments focused on program variety balance equality most negative comments referred to play it strives to present mentioned a bias or offensive programming when asked that the programs were of higher or more quality than those on other stations two thirds says the programs are of higher quality seven percent say the quality is lore and when asked if the programs present the balance point of view and their treatment of social and political issues two thirds

said the programs are balanced and fair nine percent say the programs are not balanced and fair four percent said the program's working too liberal about a quarter had no opinion about balance or fairness the survey also included questions about katie are a radio and those results closely mirror the tv findings the respondents who were strong negative or positive attitudes about chaotic at tn were invited to this town hall so we have a sense of how the general viewing audience feels about the year pbs but how does pbs describe yourself here too message was pbs's produced you may have seen them on our air many

in this book curiosity so those leagues imagine a hundred million young people have grown up public television i do wonder i mean that's that's the one thing that we all praise i know about public television the great children's programs but the same power we praise i'm wondering if there are people out there in the audience who had any they've in addition to the praises it is a children's programming as good as it on a very odd cameo prove what about programs or adolescence i mean

what about the commercialization merchandising of children's programs that we see a lot of those on the question in my mind of course i understood a moderate policy and all his essay about it just left me patrice alice kirchen i am a working mother and a parent of two small children and my question relates to programming in the evenings when we come home from dates here sometimes my children like to watch the programming and certainly pbs has been has hair programming that that i think is adequate for my child and again is something that i do not consider to be offensive and i'm wondering if there's any possibilities of adding programming on them between the hours of maybe six and seven another question is them related to barney aka pan out the way real quick again going to work every day and my party comes on i believe it's

intimate for so my two daughters denied a chance to watch and we're still kind of a pro barney family and it is isolating and i'm i'm curious if you had any intentions aren't printing out possibly after sesame street between the hours of a neat very here or in the evening time ok we do have representatives from kbr ukrainian local questions about but first let's talk about the original question of programming for children outside of the normal consider children's hours i guess on television anything well again that's a local position that many stations repeat children's programming spoon in and blocks of times through the course of the day and i think it's an interesting idea on how many do right it's six or seven at night owl and it's certainly something we'll take back with person and you talking specifically that sesame street varney in programming for children between the ages of wine and five that that's my general concern right yeah absolutely absolutely you know

i first came to really treasure public television because of children's programming when my children who are now getting out of college first really energized me to the power of television to educate and i have never forgotten and i think that i think it's the primary core mission of public broadcasting it's one of the things that really distinguishes public broadcasting and i can start my concern we can never have enough children's program did you let me and it might see more was vice president there here dr ian knows all these questions thank you know all i know all the answers right now i hear your comments are a good ones between six and seven winner and carmen san diego very successfully to we consider that to be kind of a bridge between chu ahern and parents were apparent goldman in that one and that had been putting a number of twilight major programs which have been very strong we are we brought ruckus about forty hours a week on channel thirteen in the hour we

know police would station that has taken your idea and that's toby idea for their spring i process mistreat him i think between seven and eight and we certainly will entertain the idea barnea we originally that we weren't sure how successful wanted to be early on and we had it in the afternoon horses and that's a good suggestion and i appreciate it we take that responsibility very well they understand that that's what we're cessna three are from five to six to as we feel very strongly that working parents need that and their children and creature comforts and there we have it on tape saying is that if you look at i mean even to the barney everyone this is out there because of the rigging in stores today that factory there are questions of the senator's as we speak right now about whether not cpb funding should be either cut back at least held at the same level and part of what they're talking about their water shows a merchandising pro of merchandising things making a lot of money and i wanted that

cpb or somebody may not be sharing is is that the concern is an odyssey be the concern a crisis a concern we talked about at cpb board meeting which was just last week the issue of of the barney story and barney has barney situation has some very different beginning issues that make it somewhat different from one that we were starting from ground zero without going into all the details because i'm sure i'll forget some of them but barney had been going on for some twenty months dumb in its market before pbs or their public broadcasting went to barney the producers and asked if they could join forces so it wasn't as if it was created with federal dollars at the beginning there was already merchandise in the stores so the barney story is a little bit different however at cpb we certainly taking a very hard look at the new programs and at the year in ideas that are on

the drawing board and trying to see how we can very fairly participate in now the income that might come from ancillary reasons and an ancillary products without discouraging producers from coming to public broadcasting in the first place with their prime minister olmert solutions ms williams on the executive director of rainbow bridge a youth outreach program in dallas and my question is possibly to fall knowing the crisis in and the events that are affecting our young people to date march question to the border into the station here only doing enough to educate our youth i guess the violence that the drugs that appears in the community and all of the yield that they have to deal with on a day to databases are we really trying to educate it is about what is going on in today's world it's what i suspect i'm a point to are we doing anything in korean public broadcasting for the adolescent perfectly

above that was a teenager we are about ray and the truth is that we've always done in public broadcasting that the hearts and minds of the younger children or with public broadcasting and the adolescent is a harder audience for us to know how to reach and we need the help of people like you to know what's on their minds and what they want to hear but we do have new programs coming on stream very same on we have the puzzle factory which will start airing soon we had others are being developed for the adolescent audience to talk about some of the problems that you're mentioning susan holmes america's this is a hormone off who was a vice president here at berkeley ari also the heart foundation has given money for something on his own on these lines absolutely we started this last year is a pilot for a night but one were distributing programs around the state and radio teams in mental health is the focus and the big news about this series is that would involve teams on the vow iser group and now they're part of the production

team could what we found as we as adults can be so presumptuous to guess at what they think is important to put on the air so we're very excited about the project somalia has publicly about now that this is a program for young children there was a time when i thought i did yeah we don't we haven't in about the last twenty years really and massive way because we have such a strong adult audience where we found the most effective programs is where they can be available for adults and children at the same time that's occurred they were trying to do with this this radio series it is for teens and also people who deal with teens teachers parents to promote week at intel's and i'm glad to hear that because the second question we put on a are you somebody in dallas back in april and the main concern that we get from fifteen and a young people that came from all socioeconomic backgrounds in a matchup was that adults are not listening we're not included

in programs are in the educational process seized that impact the lives it appears this is the young people speaking so i'm glad to hear that you including them as advisory and taking in consideration their concerns and their input because i think it will go on to have leaders for tomorrow we must listen to them today question years they've been any of their students they talk to address the issue of violence on television mean is that is that of the man most of him as one of the most concerns that young people as well as to an odd specimen an hour ethnic groups in ethnic communities have been african american and very much concerned about the program and the violence that his own network tv and on cable also and i think it's it's imperative that we all saw it go in another direction i don't think this is working i think it's just creating more harm than it is educating our youth and not entertainment at this sake of what his sign of what his education i think is that

price to pay ok well thank you or was only when discussion on a wooden dock where jews were really online coursework why didn't one of those concerns as for my services that are small concern but i can tell you from being a job thirteen year long time for vocal concern and that is this idea that patel was just too liberal and that it has a liberal bias and i know that at least one critic in the oil is really a more than that now so tom what you're going to post a microphone very much you know we've got that on your program we've talked about this issue and now i think the classic example of a problem that a lot of conservatives there with national public radio and public television now it's when you're leading a public affairs program has on as it's a principal spokesman for the conservative point of view david gergen

those of us who have worked in the reagan administration and previous administrations and now i mean we knew that david was not a conservative and now obviously now he's joined the clinton administration and most americans know likewise but the problem i've got with the public affairs programming when it is dealing with controversy of political and economic issues is that in my view since tax dollars are involved there are the balance and i think that traditionally and for a long period of time the balance if you will has been skewed to the left and that there ought to be a really unequal time or the opportunity for a true conservatives to love boy says aristotle is wrong but i don't think that the fairness doctrine is needed and agony that corporate executives in the producer our level roller the executive level role of npr and a now about the cpb and public television who are

out aware of conservative ideas in the world love of conservative leading conservative spokesman spokeswomen that there is an opportunity to give that kind of balance which i think is fair and i will particularly when it is one where you as one fire boilers i think and act as a vietnam veteran i'm one of the worst the fences that have been committed by public television as has been his programming on on vietnam veteran try to vietnam veteran which was just an atrocious documentary in the early eighties on on the vietnam veterans the stereotypical view of vietnam veterans the vietnam series which i was was badly and balanced and i think it is whenever you get into the controversy oh public affairs issues there ought to be aired and the opportunity to have both sides represent real question is what will wear a balanced oh i like how like those two individuals but i just did a bargain it doesn't have a conservative spokesman on that program and as of now pausing joe was a very a bowl of

representatives will continue to be on our program or someone like paul who is a conservative and as i said they are a vocal minority i am i have to remind town that narrowly is david gergen i conservative he recently said he wasn't even a republican though he was a republican from beginning to arm i think public broadcasting has done them awfully good job the last year in responding to that criticism and becoming more sensitive to that i think all you have to do is look at the lineup of the things that are coming things that have happened to tony snow on npr a lot he's doing hour documentary for pbs peggy noonan stealing one arizona there is a conservative influence that i think is growing again and that is important but it is not just conservative and liberal it's everybody's choice you

know there's my biggest concern is that there'd always be that auburn opportunity for everybody with a legitimate our point of view to it to have it expressed over time on public broadcasting and i it was we also intellectually religion well it really polite and eight a it's certainly no when you see it i suppose it's not terribly scientific that if an issue is being discussed there are blocks in an egg areas of opinion that are current on an issue that auto be exposed to publicly because the then the final end product should be to enlighten us to broaden our view to give us more to think about to give us things to disagree with ann are you about that to stimulate are thinking ahead and not just present two points of view but a variety of views and i think that's all we want the magnets and i think that there are some signs that that's changing and i

hope that continues ok and this survey that was done here in this area that i was reading through his individual comments and i thought at least three that said they like public television because it was too conservative delighted too much on the right way and now it seems to me that if we are criticized from the left and the right that we're doing something right and we ought to do more that's right because in that area because underscoring our mandate to be balanced i think everybody wants very much for us to be a balanced program ok when is the right boxes and as an asian american i keep watching the news programs and i'm a great fan of public television and i think it's doing a good job i wanted to think it think it in terms of doing a better job now tell you rewrite a particularly when it comes down to

the internationalization off america is not being reflected anywhere in terms of public broadcasting i feel that tonight logo to share shows that the bbc tv series on faulty towers and all the other good shows that you run but i think there are other programs in other parts of the world which are equally good if not better i think that is not being done another question that i had for you was another comment and question to rob you have a lot of people who do a lot of programming for you i don't know how many of them are off other minorities and ethnic minorities particularly people who are in production or even your board for that matter of these things are of concern as america becomes more and more diversified i think that does these things i need to come out more at night i hope you can explain a few more things to listen to the last one person you for example cpb board with this makeup and we saw happen every woman here to tonight so you would think that

they don't have men on you know that not one about what other makeup of the cpb board for example we have we do have more women on the board and we have man at cpb were very aware of this and had just done a study at cpb which shows that in our professional staff we have forty eight percent minority is our senior vice president for education is a very fine black educators for example the point you made about bringing in more producers aren't more minorities into the whole process is one we are very aware and sometimes this takes awhile to get things done that we are we have ones that go out to the coalitions that minority producers and you'll soon begin seeing the programs that they are produced which i think are going to be very good programs that there is an effort to get more independent producers of all stripes if you i guess

their descendants and for their work for the record in cpb is on the board of the port about a president as any to be no more than eighty members from one party at a time okay owen ok so what do you think you're one of the intellect and internationalization okay adios programs out there it will get the royal wedding produce in other countries as yours as you know there are lots of programs and all parts of the world and i would imagine that there will be a lot of the british programming innovative only the british programming it would seem that only a moron clubs and anything else and i don't think that is the intent of the cpb their new president was the former director of voice of america and is making ah it's really significant efforts in international communication both on both sides and we like to sell would like to sell more american programming abroad and there is an

interest and then announced that's a way to make money even if we can get money from barney but also with a real to be real honest about what cpb pbs are impure would do the local stations have great autonomy don't think anything that they don't want the programs i guess as mara says this was a university that's also happening local stations not just the cpb in an npr and pbs last one more question if i may on public radio they quickly enough of barbra what i wanted to find out was about public radio that there is a lot of time and place in the middle of the day and then they're nothing too much happens and also on the weekend's only other used to be a lot of international programs that used to run on that tie that this is something that you were considering or is it something that you consider in the past and what it what is it hard for the future on that one again i think it's more the local question then the national issue it's a student susan still here with us now that refers to local

we had music during the day and news programs the programs that you're referring to use to be on sunday at daytime here in and dallas fort worth and what we had done now is most of our international programing local perspectives are included in our magazine programme say you hear them on morning edition on caribbean are exceeding talk show we don't have any specific plans to renovate those shows that had been off the air for actually over ten years in a good memory hammond yes sir all other and thought of what that a deal until it's your first my name is caleb and fall and then you get a little slower i have a question but prior to my question i would like to make a comment about the sound of the one side and us that says that seems to be a perception of love on npr in another

public broadcasting i think that on npr has been making a concerted effort it seems to me they have to include more concerted the points for instance kevin phillips and morning edition in and i appreciated that and my question is really about more of the programming is as m i knew i'm resident dallas to be an npr station does an affiliate have to have a set percentage of npr programming of the national programming why are or why not and how much a local stations and the lads you how much leeway do they have to end in a n and dubbing over national programs are in and sending their own susan justice eleventh there there is a lot of local freedom in this and we choose here the members of both national public radio an american public radio relying heavily on news programming and also producing local news and music and that's pretty much our local choice we see it as

our mission here to bring out many different points of view the news programming we are also committed to their perspectives in the music and we're as the only public radio national an american public radio affiliate hear it even harder because we just have twenty four hours and today some communities have two or three stations it's a little easier this is a lot of good programming available and you're constantly making choices is it possible there's not a frequency available but we're looking at ways that we can take some of the programs that we don't carry on our air and offer them to other stations baby stations that are not and puree pure affiliates but our non commercial or even in some cases commercial stations we have given problems in the past for example the debt you are our riches a commercial classical station so that is my question for the board was was mostly about be less about the leeway that whether nights and what npr stations local stations have to do to become npr stations all through their adult life from becoming npr who is this all they have to do with how

many hours of programming i mean how many hours you broadcast and what's your wine ages said and he'd oh you employ that sort of thing the programming it is right and another subject entirely on apr npr now complete and end them follow the stations are hard pressed to pick and choose between some of the great programs that they come down from both of those services haven't i oh washington we have stations with totally different formats a country western out of meriden university which also runs all things considered all the major news and public affairs programs and then and then that that eta is radio station which is primarily classical that rate is driven by those kinds of formats which makes it harder for them to jump and skip around and makes them harder for them to do children's programming surgeon do things that are not you know

building that same stream of listeners arm which does tend to make it easier to have more than one public radio station in the city my goodness the country and western and all things considered overstock commentary on your reporting of our program is that it's been seen as being liberal but i i see it more as an open minded perspective anything else or not they were told to look to law all the support remote frozen in history itself as being one side it and here we are in a knife fight one do all of that so i appreciate your open mindedness as i would call a room in a beer label so i appreciate that and open containers of the single yield away but there was also watching regular program that as a sign that once iran a surgical one is ramiro lopez and then there was a comment i had to get this is that out of that the question was asked about the makeup of the board the

ethnicity and teases people of color on the border right now there have been but as them was mentioned earlier that's dependent entirely upon a prisoner united states whoever he points and whoever is confirmed by the senate is the point of the war for four six year turns around and at this moment and actually until about what two years ago it was odd ten member board with only one female and we've reversed that and that's now women outnumber the men well you'll have to talk to president clinton so anyway that the thing is that they're conservative because of the fighting is visiting the muppets are we talked about with it the perspective of the north texas area they're all over one million hispanics

in the north texas are over six hundred thousand like a point at it i see some programming they did that talks about or tries to bring the perspective that his contributions to the community or whatever and i think there needs to be more of it so my question is how do you get that done all that is very important to any deal have it just amazingly bags example and even though staff or the executive board and that doesn't have that perspective they are so i don't know how you go i weld made that the board of the corporation as i mentioned supported by the president the staff time as i think caroline pointed out has out of really stellar record in terms of its hiring and weak the have a half a good record in minority hiring in hispanic it

down asian american african american town he and andy and advancement of women and that's really i would say in the last four five years that great sensitivity in terms of the corporation itself and it's well over hundred person staff with regard to the issues you speak of what goes in management at a decision making position because they brought numbers in their forties have a must that is the minority in the us for example we do something else so we have those people in decision making positions yes but also we're finding a hispanic consortium to reduce programs for public broadcasting and those are where their money out there for hispanics to produce programs and robby kalland it real clear on this within a year the concern at purdue put money out in health programs produce gets back one another been rescheduled

which airs on pbs npr local stage and then i think there is a concern that i know in may with a season hispanic program and guarantee of their borders his american american programming in april the season to its programming what about aside from those special much of the arctic is programming really be integrated i guess by race if i might think about one that is that it's not just joint which is celebrated and it's all celebrations blue fiesta us it's not just about that it saved the contributions that people of color you know every night the senators present make other countries as a way to this country into a status of force or you really it's not reflected marketers i'm sure that you are you're aware of our latino usa which is gone the air from the university of texas a half hour week which is in english about the hispanic concerns and on dec safety september yes i know it was a celebration that but that happened to be the day that our radio program funded cpb

participated and launched subtly take which is and that network through satellite of all hispanics patients meaning only spanish speaking hispanics patients are being way it is the beginning it's the core of the nineties his end of the other programming but we are now to say personally i'm seriously interested in hispanic concerns and hispanic programming and believe me we maybe don't have a hispanic on our board but we do have to texas to speak up as much as we can and i think we've done a lot in the last two years to bring out the hispanic programming to everyone's attention and its is showing going to fall out my name is alan on vellum independent filmmaker here in dallas and the movement of a little bit away from the minority program perhaps partly an answer might might offer some suggestions on what steps says cpb taking has to separate itself

from what i think has become an identity that's getting very mixed up with cable television and in some cases maybe the reality programme that commercial colleges attempting to develop well i think there's very much about thing in some people's minds in an a minus well at the tenancy tichenor to begin to look at a cable television in public television is beginning to deal with the same thing as if you look at bravo the learning channel discovery except for an ant what steps to cpb taking it is taking any steps to try to make it suddenly different from that i think it's i think it's a consensus that at the corporation and in public broadcasting that that aid commitment to quality that is unwavering and that is arm day in and day out and that round is not driven by market forces is significantly different than me here

today gone tomorrow odd nature of the cable business there are good things on cable they are there day in and day out like arab public broadcasting arm they are only there so long as they as they are profitable public broadcasting has a whole different set of motives and i do think that comes pretty clear if you are a regular watcher and yet and yet i would get a gun come to that question later would come and talk about plus tries to see a lot less stress level senior the time not just one about it is this a real issue because in that its profit driven in a sense it only goes to serve program of schizophrenia about them and we didn't have to raise miners then you know that's there's a patchwork that holds public broadcasting together that's odd it's age uniquely american it seems to work and it provides sort of that aid balance of conflicting pressures

there's there is the need to raise money there's the need to have a federal contribution there is a state contribution there's a corporate underwriting component and all together they sort of hold up this system that we have put together and day in and day out it seems to work and thrive billy joel mchale will not replace public protest oh i'll never evolved are never forget that caveat pay for cable and felice forty percent of the people this country are finding it impossible i do think it's a it's a bit unfair to say the stations like discovery channel with the learning channel or bravo that don't bring it a diversity and begin to enter into the same arena as public television i mean i think the point and kind of met manson question of of the local station jr a story and how does it say it's role are in terms of wooden states said in terms of local broadcasting local program for the richie meyer for that one that

i think that put him on those five bridges the us eel k e r a we see ourselves as a reflection of this entire community and there were heroes public servants to serve the community one of our good examples i think of a project we did that cable could never do is project crossroad and i use it only as an analogy about because we've done so many other things which it's not just a television radio program but it's a community outreach it's the caring for our community but a crossroads was really started when there were a lot of the police shootings in dallas and the community was really at odds with one another and we work with the community of churches and one hundred congregations half of the minority and half of them are from the majority community and

every commercial television station and fourteen radio stations participated and they exchanged congregations and some of those congregations today are still exchanging personnel i point that out is one example of the myriad activities that we do as a public broadcasting institution that cable could never accomplish and i could go on and on with examples but i was not ok for their son yes hi my name is cc cox and i'm interested in hearing listener the most of the cuts are other doubts checkered flag which is the gay and lesbian alliance against defamation the primary function in a nutshell is to monitor the media and work for a fair and accurate representation game lesbian lines so my question in comments are they're bound to like to tag back on some women barbara said earlier about integrated programming and a different times during the era such as in february that for an answer

specifically includes above and heart attack americans and etcetera so different groups are targeted throughout the year and i do recognize the fact that in june which is traditionally gay pride month across the country within gay communities that programming is aired however unlike you know fit what plans are being made for any type of integrated programming work programs are not just aired in june and also if those programs will sometimes sing i hope begin to reflect some diversity of our communities a lot of programming is about men with aids which is an important issue not to be overlooked but can we are women in america americans and where asians and latinos in it knows etc etc and the other question then i am a question number two is would you please address ahmed give us the facts about what percentage of funds or dollar amount of fun it actually goes to loan programs that would have gay or lesbian issues in them because that's a

statistic that i think is often vastly exaggerated as we've heard mr dolan the senate say earlier this year though not i'd like to get that clear and i don't i'm sorry i don't have the statistic presented many readers programs i do think though that the programs are integrated on great performances has done two programs american playhouse has done a program and when you see those programs integrated into those major series and i think you can feel that indeed they are integrated but i'm sure it's easy on the other hand the station a lot of the criticism about being too liberal program to feature homosexuality that has a greatest complaint usually for the show even areas the station here i know i have six and called about it's very appropriate that people having seen it so i know that's that's after i'm guessing this ep beatles a question is this is visiting from the congress and a

bill levy one of those asking for funding i don't make the decision on who hears what their own if a program comes down from pbs it's up to local station because the best point of references to what the community wants or doesn't but as the more you that there are people in the congress as we speak who look at a program on a local station and say we know a lot of i was going to do is the near zero worries you every time it happens but it happens ten times a year and it's not it's on it's on grazing rights it's art in the west it's on now to me it's not one issue it's on the catholic church the program on the church almost any show that's controversial as controversial by very nature and it and it did we expect to hear comment on many of those cutting edge programs and we do harm that's what the thing that works though the have to remember is that

that a show that is appropriate and are acceptable to the commute to some communities is not in others in the decision is not made in washington ought not be named washington it's made by the local station right i understand and i i would like to say that i do pray says local station k r a for airing various programs on such as marlin rex townsend time for which any station and in that car lot of flack but i know that also got a lot of positive feedback as well on that public television as cpb has a poet me and eight to serve the diversity of the people in america was gay lesbian bisexual people are part of that and if you had recently as two networks it's his own hbo series he has produced and aired and the band played on and dumb other programming recently in the summer there was an in sort of like a documentary program on being gay in america and it does make me wonder if cpb is

is pulling its share of the load as far as representing gay muslim communities so i hope i don't we spotted me to discuss a lot more than people to market funds but i hope that there is some dry to do that the army and the whole book was when the board is is that the board will join the people in congress get into and react like that and from what i'm hearing is the board without borders the board doesn't make programming decisions line i know lord setting priorities and not as a non it makes it sets priorities and that it doesn't make programming is ok you know so you know passing on money from congress to begin without saying you can use i know you know in that show and then but not this what would you forgive me but what we do is we have a responsibility every year to report to congress on the state of that ah fairness balance objectivity quality innovation that's reflected in the program and out of the congress to lion's den and

speaking of conservative any of my colleague on a local program on this occasion so there is concern over visitation bob rea every time between the lines there is that six thirty seven and i'm not here to bite the hand that i do want to point out the crypt a criticism that i hear all the time from conservative friends admittedly a maid maybe not from the old mainstream but even from other independent tankers weren't neither party and that is that sometimes in the search for diversity for example on between the lines we have a liberal african american host a conservative last of the white boys analyst we have my friend diana ross perot a liberal i think it's fair to say a democratic activist and we're just hours every week who more times than not is a minority and who more times than not is very liberal

average weekend we got were generally bounced about three to one liberal to conservative not make up for that by talking three times i just wonder and we still get criticism from the demos think many for not having a gay representative on every week from the asian community for not having a reasonable and which i guess i just posed a dilemma how can we achieve both the diversity that makes everybody happy and you were being asked to sign but from from the locals airport i think has been very important that this station a long ago decided that it adversely months there and that's how that comes about in and they all have been put in strong and good and we do hear from all kinds of communities are within the staff and that's reflected a program and i think you see it in iraq as well that it's so i don't know if it is a dilemma because we used to sit around wondering what we find an intelligent conservative

oh no many ms anna rouse going on between the lines with that robin about rank and i guess a lot of what i'm hearing tonight is that really the local decisions there's really no input from the national national board and i think that a lot of the public would want to hear them from the local how are these decisions made in other words how can the public and how can we say you're doing a good job or bad job in the selections at night if they don't know what your selecting brown who makes those decisions and for instance to give an example i know afro pop on the radio station had been had been on some years here in dallas and was taken off staying at is now back

on what drives those decisions were goddesses of silver ore so the new government so yeah i will say for both for public radio and i think it's also true probably tell you pay attention to a lot of things you try to get information as much information as you can about your audience from surveys from calls from letters where they're from imagination vision in staying sent to people who are making progress decisions that happens in a lot of different points are big challenge is finding new voices getting them on the air one thing that we've been really excited about public radio is getting huge commentators on morning edition as this is a place where we can you can bring in new voices and new ideas and now i think we have twenty eight for regular commentaries commentators heard on morning edition sunday come out sewer that we spent about two years when soviet komatsu on the vice present for television program it's our department that there's the productions and mike seymour can best address the acquisitions that we have and how the schedule the problems in terms of what we decide to produce here all we do that

based on our diverse staff and she now and also input from the community and thats why its own where do hear from people like susan collins and roy williams and tom partin because we take into consideration when we're trying to decide what we should do as a station build on a local level and what productions we should do for a national audience as well as worse than it is when they use this how i enjoy your station i go home at nighttime i don't have any small children at home but like proteins last night i think we need to have more programs like that there's too many children out on the street it could stop a lot of violence so i think if we would have more programs like this it would be better off in the community they're thinking that doesn't come from our survey lisa majority of this community when they look at public broadcasting and i guess when we talk about things like proteins what has always been a problem as i recall in public broadcasting if you're struggling got the money to make the program how you let people know that you got the program

and how do we let those that the roy williams talk about no program that will speak to them we never get someone if abortion in advertising there were given out another cpb is he responding to that this non fatal problem it's always a struggle compound by the fact that that any show could air at ten different times in ten different cities so you can even do any kind of national promotion that will build an audience because every station decides for itself it's it's a very difficult issue it's one we pay a lot of attention to look for ways to develop promotions to to create audiences and the teenage they get the ability to track teenagers is one of the hardest and how to get them off of mtv and to get that your phone's air their years i just i mean it's a very difficult issue i can't have to see children's programming and three blocks that the

preschool we've got up to about first grade and second grade then there's that next group up to preteens if we could find a way to keep them you know we lose a lot of those kids ever years and they're the ones that migrated ten hard rock and mtv in and if we can find a way to keep them then perhaps that that you know we can then logically keep the dna doesn't music videos i you know i really i know that's a dilemma about mr will layman who got a find a way to get it because i'm gonna finally continue to educate them likely educated them when they were younger my name is alan governor non director of an organization called documentary arts i'm a producer of independent radio and film and television the question i have concerns i think relates to what you were just asking which is how does public radio and public television become more accessible to the public at large as a producer of

and have an independent series of fifty two programs that scarlett on a hundred fifty stations around the country i have found that approximately a third of those stations have no affiliation to either npr apr they're truly community based radio stations that are hungry for programming the zapruder mobile court asserts it's a series called masters of traditional music which was funded in part by cpb interestingly enough in the dallas marketed as not broadcast ok ira but his broadcast in part on an atm commercial station kqed eight am which is truly a community based african american station it is a serious however that is broadcast on k n t u which is a public radio stay ish and it's broadcast on pacifica station in houston as broadcast like at an austin a smaller stations as you're complying with the local station like you're in the program well i have a certain complying with local stations

but that i think is a separate issue i think the issue that's pertinent to the discussion tonight is the fact that there is a greater diversity especially in radio that exists and that more efforts i think could be made on a national level to reach these smaller radio stations that are hungry for free programming for npr programming is not free it may be free through the satellite to its members but it is not free and were my funding not structured in such a way as to make it an outreach series so that i could provide it for free on tape on that on reel to reel the small stations around the country it would not be broadcast because the sales have no facility to be able to broadcast that kind of programming how low level at the state of the state i think having real heard about the local people heard your were there but they weren't valuable more common here before we go because or bought out i think in the moment

and i guess i would like to commend the board and in response to some of the concerns and criticisms of that but much knowledge to pay attention to your survey on and be happy with that but the two thirds of your listeners and watchers in viewers enjoy what you're doing and i'm attracted to both public radio and television because of the balance and the fairness we have another rush limbaugh's and david goals and we're also not like people who seek to inform and educate rather than the right someone so i can understand him the concerns of youtube or not a conservative and not by snow for one group but i'll you strive to kind of maintain the middle ground to check all right around things lively show alum think you know when we can talk about this and more because it's come up at an issue you now guide if you have any comments and ideally what we would be giving comments about public broadcasting calls it the bees number but before that wouldn't give you the last word you okay okay we got the cpb number of their now you go to a club called them at one eight hundred three five six two six

two six author thomas about chaotic at tnt the casa tu won for seven for all nine three five nine after nine a poor one radio two one four seven for oh nine three three a now to some final thoughts and she'll take thanks om i'd really like to thank all of you for participating in our open to the public broadcast we're grateful to those of you who gave up your evening to be with us tonight your especially grateful to the viewers and listeners a public broadcasting in north texas for inviting us into your homs we listen to a lot of opinions here tonight and there is a genuine diversity in public broadcasting a diversity that we at cpb think is healthy public broadcasting is not perfect that came through tonight but i believe most of you think it's pretty darn good otherwise you wouldn't hear so much about i assure you that we are working to make it even better than you've been a big help

i don't want to leave without thanking richie meyer and the staff a k e r a k e d t n and k are a radio for making this meeting possible no small and i want to give a special thanks to you mr sanders for being our host well and quite want them i think is again till the soul is out here he appreciated that are coming tonight the