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From deep inside your radio. Please join. Whenever you do, please join. Ladies and gentlemen, the buried lead is something I've been pointing out to you over a period of months and perhaps years, who's counting. But this week comes the latest development in lazy journalism, the buried non-lead. That is to say, what would have been big news if the reporter had just basically bothered to say, what? What do you mean? Washington from the Washington Post. US officials have raised a second round of unusually bluntly worded objections to a proposed global warming declaration that Germany prepared for next month's group of eight summit, according to documents obtained by the Washington Post. Representatives from the world's leading industrial nations have been meeting to hash out the thing, blah, blah, blah.

Here's the news, supposedly, the US still has serious fundamental concerns about this draft statement that's been drafted by the European countries that would call for, you know, setting mandatory emissions targets. Who wants that? This is from a paper dated May 14th. Quote, the treatment of climate change runs counter to our overall position when we knew that. And continuing to quote, crosses multiple red lines in terms of what we simply cannot agree to. We've tried to tread lightly, but there's only so far we can go, given our fundamental opposition to the German position, unquote. Two sides remain at loggerheads. So my question is, red lines, what are those? Apparently they are, by the very use of the term, very defined and precise things beyond which the United States government is not prepared to go on the subject of climate change. What would those be?

Have those ever been spelled out publicly? Washington Post? Hello? No, we're just quote from the documents that somebody dumped on our doorstep, because that's called journalism. And ladies and gentlemen, change has come to Guantanamo Bay. No, not just to the Bay, to the base, to the prison. Two visiting reporters from the Miami Herald have inspected a 10 week old garden for some of the detainees. That's right, 10 weeks ago they decided, hey, you know, they should have a garden. They've been here five years with nothing. A garden would be nice. It's two concrete planters containing gardening beds, seedlings were sprouting when the Miami Herald reporters visited. This said Army Lieutenant Colonel Todd Melton, deputy commander of the Gitmo scene. This is part of the intellectual stimulation program. You really want your intellect stimulated by the United States Army, don't you?

Quote, it just gives them something else to think about. They enjoyed doing the plants, they have tomatoes, and I believe the other ones are some type of melon. Of course, they're just seedlings right now. This is the same place where a year ago commanders described a detainee uprising. It's been downsized from 175 to most 16 or 70, although present population is fewer than 40 Arabs and Afghanis. The younger ones like to play sports, said the Lieutenant Commander, but the older guys like to come in here and fool with the garden. The other, another change at Gitmo. After years of reporters carrying their notebooks through the various prison camps. An Army escort officer now declared the main detention center a notebook free zone fearing that someone during the media tour might weaponize the spiral springs holding the pages together. And the other change at Gitmo, noticed by the Miami Herald reporters.

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The mock guard undershirts that used to read behavior modification instructor. The mock guard undershirts that used to read behavior modification instructor. They were ashamed of their actions and apologize, disabled broken detiers during his confession. Dateline Conifer Colorado families offended by photos and texts of student alcohol and drug use published in the Conifer High School yearbook can get their money back or have their copies treated. School officials announced this week. is that there are some things in the yearbook that I don't feel like I can defend. Principal Pat Turman said in looking at the overall tone in some specific pictures and some specific quotes, I really do believe that we have crossed the line, said the principal.

The yearbook advisor, Amy McTagg, apologized for what she called, quote, my poor judgment. Crossing the line. I wonder if that's the same line that Monica Goodling said she crossed the aid to Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez said in this week's Congressional testimony that she crossed a line when she used political considerations to evaluate career employees. And she was asked, by a line, do you mean the law, by crossed a line? It's illegal, of course, to do what she crossed a line. That's just, just wondering about those lines. People crossed, ladies and gentlemen, Fox has apologized, but don't get excited. Fox Television Network has apologized for having American idols show the finale, run long. Show a schedule to end at 10 p.m. Eastern and Pacific, but the winner was announced at

10-03 and the show ended at 10-09. As a result, many viewers who recorded the show and their T-vos missed the announcement of the winner. We're sorry that DVR users may have missed the conclusion of the American Idol broadcast, said a spokesperson for Fox, not named, not proud, it's not named. It was always our intention to bring the show in on time, but just as with any live sports, variety awards or entertainment event, there is no way to absolutely guarantee that the show will end exactly on the hour. Fox and the producers apologize to those viewers who were inconvenienced. When I frame that, man, that's a 400 episode gift, a framed Fox apology. The Spanish fashion retail giant Zara has apologized to ultra-orthodox Jews in Israel for selling men's suits that violate a religious prohibition against mixing wool and linen. That's according to a company spokesperson. Zara has withdrawn the offending garments from its racks.

Jewish law prohibits the wearing of wool and linen blends known as Shatnes and the ultra-orthodox carefully inspect materials of unknown fibers. Some 40 or 50 Israeli clients complained about the Shatnes suits. They conservatively dressed Orthodox Jews are not a mainstay of the popular Zara shops in Israel, but the Jerusalem post pointed out they do manage to find classic cuts amid the low necklines and high hams. We'll leave the rest of that story to your imagination. The Washington Redskins apologized this week for comments running back Clinton Portis made during a television interview. The comments ridiculed authorities for pursuing possible dogfighting charges against teammate Michael Vic. Tackle Chris Samuel said he was wrong for joking about dogfighting during the interview he and Portis did. No, he's not a teammate, he's the land of Falcons, sorry about that. Said the Redskins, in a statement, the Washington Redskins is an organization obviously would never condone anything related to animal cruelty.

The team takes recent comments of Clinton Portis very seriously and apologizes to everyone that was offended. Portis had said, Vic would be put behind bars for no reason if you were charged and convicted for dogfighting. The team had earlier released a statement on behalf of Portis in which the running back was quoted as saying, quote, I want to make it clear, I do not take part in dogfighting or condone dogfighting in any manner, unquote, hope we cleared that up. By the way, last week I had lived that the Southern Ocean was no doubt by that usage, they meant the Arctic, of course, I meant the Antarctic, thank you for correcting my foolish laps. The deadline Atlanta, the chief executive of Home Depot, Frank Blake apologized this week to shareholders of the company's annual meeting, says saying he regretted the now infamous meeting last year when members of the board stayed home and his predecessor as chief executive refused to take questions from investors. We apologized for last year's meeting, Blake said it was a mistake and we won't do it

again. Of course, you can't do last year's meeting again, this is this year. Representative John Murther has apologized to representative Mike Rogers after a motion to rebuke Murther failed on the House floor. Of course, I apologized for my outburst, Murther said in an interview, he'd said a letter of apology, not being released since its private communication. Congressman Rogers has accepted the apology, Murther had previously apologized to his democratic colleagues for the behavior that led to Rodgers' resolution of proposed censure, Murther had threatened to never approve an earmark in a defense bill by Rodgers in retaliation for something, Rodgers, it's just, you know, house business ladies, gentlemen. A British TV station apologized this week after regulators rule that's the celebrity big brother program broke broadcasting rules by earning footage of racist insults being hurled at Bollywood star, Shilpa Shetty.

I feel a shetty, Britain's communication regulator off-com said Channel 4 should have halted the offensive behavior. One incident included Jade Goodie, a dental assistant turned tabloid celebrity, that's all you really need to know about that story. That phrase, a dental assistant turned tabloid celebrity. What a wonderful world we live in when that can happen. And in apologies from the music business, Scott Stapp has issued a public apology following his domestic violence arrest last weekend. I'm truly sorry and seeks forgiveness from my wife. Says the former lead singer for the Christian rock group Creed, you know, smirking aloud. And the company behind Doc Martin's footwear, airwear limited as fired its advertising agency in the wake of controversy surrounding a British ad campaign that includes a photo of Kurt Cobain, the chief executive said the poster campaign wasn't supposed to go public. Dr. Martin's did not commission the work as it runs counter to our current marketing

activities. He said in a statement, although the ad agency is standing by the ad campaign. Courtney Love, the widow, had said she didn't give permission for the company to use a photo of her late husband. Now, there's, there was an apology buried there somewhere, but not, not, not evident to the naked eye at this point, despite that, the apologies of the weak ladies and gentlemen. I'll copy righted feature of this broadcast. Yes, I'm still here just thinking thinking about Pakistan. It says, starting to become news that Pakistan is a wacky place for us to be, for us to be dependent on for our security in the way we are. Some, some, some straws on the wind this week. Pakistan's tourism minister has withdrawn her resignation.

Some leaders have assured her of their support, despite the fact she was condemned by radical Islamic clergy persons for hugging a foreign man. She hugged a foreign man. Nilofar Bhaktiar was caught up in a three month standoff between authorities and clerics at a mosque in the capital. The clerics are campaigning to impose Islamic law. And in the course of their campaign, what they've been doing is kidnapping policemen and setting up their own court. The court condemned Bhaktiar last month for unislamic behavior after a newspaper published a photograph of her embracing her parachute instructor in France after she made a charity jump to help Kashmir earthquake victims. She was going to quit the cabinet complaining that President General Parvaze gave her too little public backing. What else is going on in Pakistan?

Oh, man. The United States this week hailed Pakistan as a great friend, not a good friend, a great friend, and expressed its continued support for President General Parvaze. We have a very close relationship with President Musharraf. We strongly supported President Musharraf and will continue to do so. This is under Secretary of State Nicholas Burns. Don't get excited. He also voiced the hope that further counterterrorism efforts can be made by Pakistan in the border region. By further, he probably means some since Pakistan signed that deal with the warlords in that border region. We hope said our under secretary of state progress can be made in building Pakistan's own democracy in the months and years ahead. The President General who is running for an unprecedented third term has made it clear that if either leader of an opposition party tries to set foot in Pakistan, they're exiled

at the moment. They'll be arrested. That's progress. It could have been executed. And I'm not reflecting anybody's views when I say that. President said the U.S. is concerned about the increase in number and severity of attacks by the Taliban. But there's more about Pakistan. It will look into allegations that now says that its peacekeeping force in the Congo traded in golden weapons with the militias it was supposed to be disarming. The BBC reported the possibility that that happened and the UN's Department of Peacekeeping Operations is now looking into it. Pakistani troops and other peacekeepers in the Congo's volatile east traded arms for gold with rebels who still operate in the region. A UN team was sent to investigate the charges last year has yet to come out with its official

report, but the BBC says it's what's going on. And Reuters says there's a jitters in Pakistan. There's uncertainty about the President. Many people don't think he'll last the crisis, says Talal Masood. The crisis was started when President General Masha'ar fired the head of the Supreme Court. Can you do that? This position has deteriorated dramatically since he didn't fire and he suspended him. Excuse me. Suspension. First half of May was marked by a large-scale demonstration of public support for the judge in Lahore. Can you say that on the radio? And a week later, about 40 people were killed in clashes between pro and government anti-government supporters in Karachi. Pakistan, ladies and gentlemen, not a good friend, our great friend.

And because it's Sunday, in much of the world, the Sunday newspapers in England, particularly specializing in frightening stories, and here's my favorite, which just came to my attention partly because coincidentally, really, this week the Coca-Cola Company announced it was spending $4 billion, $4 billion to buy vitamin water, no, not by the bottle, to buy the company. You see what I'm saying? So that would be coincidental. Would it not in the face of this story in the independent newspaper from London? A new health scare has erupted over soft drinks last night. How many people were scared on Saturday night in London, do you think, about this? Amid evidence, they may cause serious cell damage. Research from a British university suggests a common preservative found in drinks, such

as Pepsi Max. Do we have Pepsi Max in this country? Max? Has the ability to switch off vital parts of DNA? Oh, just that. The problem more usually associated with aging and alcohol abuse can eventually lead to cirrhosis of the liver and Parkinson's. Concerned center on the safety of E211 known as sodium benzoate, a preservative used for decades by the soft drinks business. Sodium benzoate derives from benzoic acid. Wait, I should read that as a scientific note, so sodium benzoate derives from benzoic acid. It occurs naturally in berries but is used in large quantities to protect, oh, to prevent mold. You wouldn't want mold in your sprite, would you? See, so stop bitching. Stop bitching about the preservatives. You want mold in your sprite. You come talk to me. It's also added to pickles and sauces is sodium benzoate. Sodium benzoate is subject of concern about cancer because when mixed with the additive vitamin

C, vitamin C can't hurt you, it causes benzene, which is known to cause cancer. An expert in aging at Sheffield University has been working on sodium benzoate since publishing a research paper in 1999 is speaking out, Professor Peter Piper, oh, come on. Pickles, Peter Piper? Is this April? No, it's not. He's a professor of molecular biology and biotechnology tested the impact of sodium benzoate on living yeast cells, what he found alarmed him. The benzoate was damaging an important area of DNA in the power station of cells known as the mitochondria. He says these chemicals have caused, have the ability to cause severe damage to DNA in the mitochondria to the point they totally inactivated. They knock it out altogether. The mitochondria consumes the oxygen to give you energy and if you damage it as happens in a number of diseased states, then the cell starts to malfunction very seriously. Professor Piper said tests conducted by the US FDA were out of date on the subject.

The food industry says these compounds have been tested and are safe by the criteria of modern safety testing, the safety tests were inadequate, safety testing moves forward. He advised parents to think carefully about buying drinks with preservatives, coke, of course diet Pepsi all contained sodium benzoate. The British Soft Drinks Association say they entrust the safety of additives to the government. All right then, we can relax. And now for your weekend excitement. It's coming, the fighting event of the year, two men, one ring, noose, extreme, untimid fighting. E.U.F. Rolls-Toon, Dante Tiger Cheeks, versus Asus El Loco Godoy. One will be left standing, the other, who knows, 25 rounds, fists, feet.

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This from Animal Feed and Animal Nutrition News, the Bible of Animal Feed and Animal Nutrition, China keeps violating U.S. food standards, I'll read it for you, I want to have a soft drink while you're listening. China is a top violator of U.S. food safety standards, with U.S. authorities last month rejecting 257 Chinese food shipments far more than from any other country. At least 137 food shipments were rejected as filthy. I think that's a term of art, after testing positive for Salmonella or for containing band ingredients.

The FDA last month seized more than 1,000 shipments of tainted dietary supplements, toxic cosmetics and counterfeit medicines from China. A good portion of the rejected Chinese shipments each month includes fish and seafood like catfish, shrimp, mahi mahi, tilapia, eel, and yellowfin tuna. Paranthetically, there was a report this week also that a shipment from China, supposedly of monkfish, may in fact be poisonous pufferfish, but that's just poisonous, not filthy. Back to the article, other Chinese imports that failed inspection include herbal teas, green curd, candy, dried apples, dried peaches, peanut milk, catheters, and lip gloss. Got a problem with the filthy catheter.

China which exports about $2 billion each year in food products not only is a cheap supplier of a growing number of important food products, but for some key food stuffs, it is virtual truly the sole purveyor. China now dominates the world's production of ascorbic acid, which is a valuable preservative that is ubiquitous in processed foods. Paranthetically, it's the ascorbic acid that combines with the sodium benzoate, blah, blah, blah. But that don't blame the ascorbic acid for that. U.S. companies have become so dependent on the Chinese exports, back to the article, that they may be reluctant to reduce the flow of goods. U.S. agriculture officials have seized hundreds of tons of prohibited poultry products from China and other Asian countries, including some shipped in crates labeled dried lily flour

and prune slices. See that's the tip off because California we don't call them prunes anymore. Menu foods, North America's biggest maker of wet pet foods, and the company that launched the pet food recall that started this whole thing, is announcing it's phasing out ingredients from China. It won't resume using them until menu and the quote, world community, unquote, are assured they're safe. Their consultant for the world community's opinion is John Bolton, no, just made that up. So the drinking's good and the eating's better.

And don't look too closely at that catheter. Words to the wise when I read the trades for you, ladies and gentlemen, a copyrighted feature of this very broadcast. Now let's shift our gaze to Iraq if we might, the new Iraq, and what is exactly going on? The Bush administration, according to the Boston Globe, has dismantled a special committee that was established just last year to coordinate aggressive actions against Iran and Syria. It met weekly throughout much of last year to coordinate actions, such as curtailing Iran's access to credit, organizing the sale of military equipment to some of Iraq, Iran's fine neighbors, and supporting democratic forces that oppose the two regimes, even though some of those quote, democratic forces are on the State Department's terrorist watch list. State Department of White House officials say the dissolution of the group was simply a bureaucratic reorganization, many analysts see it as evidence of a softening in the US strategy towards Syria and Iran.

That's one straw or one wind. Reuters reports this week that Gulf Arab countries meeting in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia have agreed to step up security cooperation to confront a new generation of militants spawned in the fertile ground of Iraq. Prince Naif bin Abdul Aziz, Saudi's interior minister, announced the move, saying Iraq represents a security threat for the entire region, quote, the security situation in Iraq is deteriorating, and terrorism is growing there. So says the Saudi interior minister. Must be reading the media. Iraq has become fertile ground for creating a new generation of terrorists, learning and practicing all forms of murder and destruction continued the Saudi interior minister. Hey, weren't all, uh, weren't, uh, some of the 911 hijackers, Saudis quote, the lack security

situation in Iraq's bears great dangers for our region and stability in our countries. And you probably know this months before the invasion of Iraq, US intelligence agencies predicted it would be likely to spark violent sectarian divides and provide al-Qaeda with new opportunities in Iraq and Afghanistan, that according to the report issued this week by the Senate Committee on Intelligence, analysts also warned that invading Iraq could provide, provoke Iran to assert its regional influence and probably would result in a surge of political Islam and increased funding for terrorist groups in the Muslim world. These assessments were made in January of 2003. Too bad, they weren't circulated in the Bush administration. Oh, I see they were. The US military is joining forces with the State Department to prepare a new Iraq strategy that includes negotiating ceasefire and power sharing agreements with some enemy combatants.

US officials announced Wednesday. You don't know, negotiate with terrorists until we do. A joint campaign plan redesign team is preparing the diplomatic and military strategy for Iraq, which is expected to be approved by the end of this month. One element of the plan is to try to identify groups of people, possibly including Sunni extremists and militia groups with whom US officials feel they can do business, such as negotiating power sharing and ceasefire agreements and granting economic aid. The New York Times on Saturday led with a front page report that the White House is thinking about cutting our troop strength in Iraq in half by 2008. What's going on in 2008?

And in a sidebar, it had an interview with the American ground commander in Iraq, Lieutenant General Raymond O'Dierno. I think we read, I read to you some of his stunningly wrong conclusions earlier on in the war, quoted in the book Fiasco, but now he's running things. And he or just patience to those seeking quick progress. When the pullback does come, he says no one should expect it to be rapid. We'll do this in a very deliberate way, says General O'Dierno. I call this thinning the lines. We won't take everybody out at once. What is going on? I take a phone call to find out. I mean, when you stare at them, you know, the dams always blink.

It's just like they got ready, syndrome, or something. Think Lee Atwater did that to them. Think after the 88 campaign, the dams were so wary of a shot from Lee, they started seeing him in every political shadow, till they beat a certain relative of mine. Those were Democrats, those were Clintons, big difference, you know, been talking a little bit to Mr. Clinton as we do our charity fly-ins, he's got some stories on him, tell you that. He's got some else on him too, and they're made of steel, you know, it's kind of what I'm saying, except when I would get around to it, I'd actually use the word. Well, of course you would, and that's why you and my, I'm going to inherit a slightly messier slice of heaven than Lore and I. But see, keeps amazing me that the dams don't grasp Curls' chicken principle.

They don't grasp his chicken, what? You know, two guys playing chicken, the one who throws away his steering wheel wins, unless the other guy then throws his way too. That's the great thing about our Democrat friends. They put in a second steering wheel and gave it to me, and as what Curls says, I just know what we ought to do is run an ad where Harry Reid is dressed the same as Nancy Pelosi. I mean, that says it all. So now you got your war-funded bill, you got the timeline sounding like a lock box. I don't know, yes, yes, you hunk it down into the meat of the surge, yeah, I wish. I mean, I really do believe this fellow General Patreus, he really does understand the culture of the Iraqi people and if we'd gone with Plan A and kept this thing going until my successor steps up to the plate, you know, he did, he did, he did, he did, he did,

I've had a good chance of winning this thing, but that we're deep into Plan B now. Plan B would be your public and friends getting nervous, yeah, more nervous than a Thai child bride. I mean, you know what Arnie calls girly man, he looks bad, close up. But yeah, yeah, we're on a Thai schedule for the first round of heavy thinning by the time of the convention, kind of like a timeline, but see, there's my edge right there. If the opposition thinks you're dumb, they stop trying to rationalify your logic. So in the narrative of the thing, beating the Democrats on the timeline is essential to the story of us having our own timeline. It's the twist. The Andy Card, you know, got me into all this, we, we sit around for hours and he, he, he do these really deep analyses of the plotlines of his favorite movies and yeah, it's a one

of two told car, you know, you do the policy, I'll do the narrative, but tonight kind of give the enemy the incentive to start a real duty fast about six weeks before the next election. Now, who does that help more, the dams who by the end curl will have, have looking softer than a marshmallow teddy bear or, or, or, or I, no, hey, look, not saying that doesn't convince me, but it, it may not convince nervous Republicans, too many nights in the sentence there. Some double negativity must say the whole bloody August deal took me by surprise, kind of we got used to, I guess you'd call it a more consistently optimistic tone from you, Sprint. This bloody August thing, I don't know, sounded almost like realism. Hey, dream on 43, just some inoculating, if we say it's going to be bloody and it turns out to be bloody, guess what?

That's old news, you know, some good people getting killed, other good people working hard, making good progress, we're moving forward. So you've got breathing space for September when General Patreus makes his report on the surge and the verdict is, what mission accomplished, not in so such a many words, no sir, of course not. We realize that as a spoiled brand, but the verdict is great job, General Patreus, too bad we couldn't stick around to do the whole thing, but that training wheels have to come off the bike sometime otherwise, it's just always going to be a track plus one and the dams will be sputtering because they're dams. If it's not a bloody August, then the surge worked. Yeah, then look like such a disaster now, does it? I didn't say that, but God on men, you have a great amount of confidence in this narrative

theory. Yeah, boy on 41, Condit said there's a couple weeks ago on the exercise bike confidence his beliefs, strong ride bicep, and Dick Cheney's okay with all this, he's the key guy on the whole thing, he's, he's the guy who keeps riding in the rip out the sheriff wheel. Okay, he's still bothered by this though, it's late September, 2008, troops are half thinned. Rock starts falling off a cliff, and our off-a-seeking Republican friends get down right at half a plectic, gotcha, well, then the mixture gets lucky, troops go back in, nope, they were drawn to the east, well it ran to the east, yeah that was Dick's point, okay 43, good to hear you sound an optimistic, bar will be glad to hear it, she's been, she's

been worrying about you, just tell her what Condit told me, what's that, worry is beliefs chronically sore Achilles tendon, we'll do, take care 43, you do 401, look out where you're going, the signal is showing, a definite red, look out what you're doing, you're caught at a pot, whatever she's brewing, stay out of the pot, you better get wise, here's what I advise, when she sighs for a squeeze, freeze, blame it on the breeze, start to sneeze, get the measles, she'll get you off balance, then suddenly shove, dunk when she throws

her hook out, don't let your heart get took out, pick up your packet, hook out, look out, look out, it's long, look out when you're growing, stay close to the back, that river is flowing, right into the tank, look out when you ramble, you're out on the loose, you're livin' to amble, right into a loose, you better look out, I better turn about like a child at the dam, scrum, take it on the ground, it's a jail, it's a stampede, she'll talk to her lawyer, where by and where all, she'll get the marriage, look out, she'll pick the perfect look out, her welcome mask, been shook out, look out, look out, look out,

now ladies and gentlemen, time for news of the warm, won't you? The Smithsonian Institution toned down an exhibit on climate change in the Arctic for fear of angering Congress and the Bush administration, says a former administrator at the museum, among other things the script of last year's exhibit was rewritten to minimize and inject more uncertainty into the relationship between global warming and humans, says Robert Sullivan, who was associate director in charge of exhibitions, also officials admitted scientist's interpretation of some research and let visitors draw their own conclusions from the data, graphs were altered to show that global warming could go either way Sullivan said, it just became tooth-pulling to get solid science out without toning it down, he said,

he resigned last fall after 16 years at the museum, some scientists who consulted on the project said nothing major was omitted, Smithsonian officials denied political concerns influenced them, and the world's recent carbon dioxide emissions are growing more rapidly than even the worst case climate scenario used by the intergovernmental panel on climate change according to researchers, the team led by Michael Rothpatch of the Australian Commonwealth scientific and industrial research organization looked at the growth of CO2 emissions and found that emissions growth suddenly accelerated in the year 2000, let's just celebrate the biennium by melting by millennium, by anime, by cinnamon, during the 1990s emissions grew by 1% a year on average but the number shot up to 3.3% between 2000 and 2004, the team found reality was at least as bad if not worse than the UN backed IPCC's worst case scenario, the team then examined the changes between

1980 and 2004, population economic growth, energy efficiency and carbon efficiency, from this they determined why the CO2 emissions accelerated after 2000, not due to a growth in global population but a reduction in global efficiently, quote, we are not getting more efficient at using carbon dioxide in the way we projected, explained co-author of the report. Use of the warm ladies and gentlemen, it is a copyrighted feature of this broadcast, and FEMA has awarded nearly 4,000 no bid contracts, House members are now trying to write legislation would require competition for most contracts, they never too late, the list of 4,000 no bid contracts, which FEMA recently sent to the House

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Five o'clock is that right? Is this a quiz? No it's not a quiz. It's all things considered later. We can't all things consider that's right and between then and now there's a variety of other programming isn't there? Oh yeah lots of great stuff. The rebroadcast of this American life is coming up. There's music with Tom Schnabel and there's music I believe Ann Litz going to be in later too. Excellent thanks. Good stuff. Now latest gentleman stay tuned for the show broadcast. It's next via shuttle no via satellite from around the world at the sound of the tone. From deep inside your radio. So so latest gentleman now the the question is clear. The the basis for voting for the resolution for the war in Iraq was supposedly the national intelligence estimate that was cooked up. Excuse me excuse me excuse me provided by the CIA to

the Congress. I believe specifically the Senate requested it. So you would think that despite the fact that you actually as a as a congressperson had to go into a special secure room. Sign in probably sign out when you left that before voting on such a momentous portentous document as the resolution authorizing the president to invade Iraq that almost all of your senators and representatives would have read the national intelligence estimate just like in the almost two years since Katrina you would have assumed that almost every congressman and senator would have at least visited New Orleans to see the scale of the disaster. Well in both cases ladies and gentlemen you'd be wrong except more people more congress people

have visited New Orleans I think close to half. Neither California senator I'm proud to say. Then read the national intelligence estimate. John McCain he didn't read it. Chris Dodd he didn't read it. Hillary Clinton she didn't read it. None of the other senators running for president has read the document. According to the Washington Post only six senators viewed it before voting for war. So they've got an excuse. They didn't know. They didn't know what we didn't know. See the administration says it was based on the intelligence we had which was flawed. The Senate has a better excuse. We didn't even have the intelligence. Ladies and gentlemen it's not just China. An Ohio company has been added to the list of firms adding the industrial toxin

melamine to animal feed ingredients. Those feeds have been eaten by livestock and fish meant for human consumption mm mm mm mm melamine. The company's been doing it for a long time. According to the Food and Drug Administration the company used melamine as a binding agent. Everybody's got an agent these days to hold feed granules in pellet form. The level of melamine appears to be too low to harm humans who have eaten animals that consume the tainted food. The company is Tembeck BTLSR. Easy name to remember. When they don't want you to remember their names boy they're good at it aren't they? Tembeck BTLSR. Ask for it by name. That's the name of the company Toledo Ohio. They sold the melamine laden ingredients to Uniscope which unlike the sound isn't in the entertainment business they made three animal food products. One for cattle sheep and goats, two for fish and shrimp. You like shrimp?

The Justice Department's Inspector General has weighed in you know we like to keep track of what the inspector's general are telling us. Glen Fine says in a report that federal anti-crime task forces often duplicate their efforts and do not communicate well with one another. This is how many years after 9-11? Even anti-crime forget about anti-terrorism and I crime task forces do not communicate well with each other. Fine's report documented three instances in which federal agents mistook each other for criminals because they did not know about each other's operations. I had one right here. Federal agents mistook each other for criminals. That is that's prime time television that is and ladies and gentlemen organic bees appear to be unaffected by the mysterious disorder that's killing off commercial bees according to some beekeepers in Canada. The mainstream beekeeping industry has lost up to one

third of its populations almost no reports of colony collapse disorder among the 1000 organic bee keepers across North America. Says one organic beekeeper from Prince Edward Island P.E.I. quote that's the big thing when you have organic bees your bees stay alive. But fortunately senators aren't reading that either. Hello welcome to the show. 40 years old this weekend. It's getting better.

A little better all the time. It's getting better. Some children mine getting so much better all the time. It's getting better all the time. I used to be cruel to my woman. I feed her and care. There are parts from the things that she loves. I know it's me but I'm changing my team. I know you're doing the best that I can. I am it. It's getting better. It's getting better all the time. Yes I am it. It's getting better. It's getting better.

Since moving mind getting so much better all the time. It's getting better all the time. It's getting better all the time. It's getting better. There's so much better all the time. Man, his bass string sounded loose. Hello, I'm from the Edge of America, and that's a good thing. From the home of the homeless, I'm Harry Scherer, welcoming you to this edition of the show. And now, it's time for news from outside the bubble. British military chiefs are drawing up plans

to withdraw all British troops from Iraq within 12 months. Ministry of Defense plans to pull troops out of Iraq within a year. Iraq is seen as the most dangerous country on Earth. How do that happen? Man, we went in, it was so quiet there. A fresh timetable for a unilateral withdrawal from the country by next May will be presented to the incoming Prime Minister Gordon Brown within weeks. He will be told by defense chiefs that Britain should withdraw from Iraq in quick order and concentrate on fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan. Why that's... Yeah. Until now, the government of the military, Britain, have both insisted that withdrawal would be dictated by events and not time. The lack of progress in Iraq? What? Excuse me? This is from the conservative British newspaper, the telegraph. The lack of progress in Iraq and the need to send more troops to Afghanistan

has forced the government to accelerate its withdrawal plan. Shocking. Just shocking. A senior military official told the Sunday telegraph. Britain is not physically capable of fighting wars in Afghanistan and Iraq at the same time. The question is, which do we give up? The government of the defense chiefs have decided that we should give up Iraq. Give up Iraq. The security situation has dramatically deteriorated. According to the telegraph, British troops and boss are attacked every time they leave their bases. Troops rarely conduct routine patrols in the city and those who do expect to be attacked within 20 minutes of venturing out. So keep those patrols to 15, won't you? According to the Times of London,

British commanders have drawn up plans to allow the troops to be withdrawn by the end of this year. So it's just a question of how soon they're coming out, but they're coming out. It's time, not events. But as to the status of the situation in Iraq at this moment, there was an incident this week. British troops were set upon by insurgents dressed as Iraqi police driving in a Iraqi police vehicle. What does that tell you about the Iraqi police, ladies and gentlemen? Anyway, here is former conservative foreign minister of Britain, Malcolm Rifkin, talking about what that should tell us. But let's not forget, although we're attaching a lot of importance rightly to the incident yesterday, every single day of the week doesn't sometimes hundreds of ordinary Iraqis

are subjected to the same treatment of being kidnapped, killed, injured and in other ways, having their freedom severely limited if not removed. So the situation is one of virtual anarchy. That's good progress. Virtual anarchy. That's where you use computers to more news from outside the bubble, ladies and gentlemen. In case you think Britain is hipper than we are, a some do, a 37-year-old man jailed for a crime he did not commit is being charged almost $14,000 for his time in prison. Warren Blackwell, from Northamptonshire, has been told the some will be deducted from the compensation he's being paid. The some will cover the money he saved, unrent and food while he was in prison. He's spent three years in jail convicted of sexually assaulting a woman. The woman had a history of false claims against men. It all works out well, doesn't it? The Ministry of Justice, well-named, said deductions were normal procedure

and should not be called bed and breakfast costs. He would receive compensation minus the some which has been assessed as the amount of money he would have saved. He had saved from normal expenses while in jail. He says, I was flabbergasted when I was told. How can they justify charging innocent people when murderers live rent-free? I believe that's a rhetorical question. The purpose of the compensation explained the Ministry of Justice spokesperson is to put an individual back into the financial position they would have been but for the miscarriage of justice. But not to a better position. Blackwell said that was Blackwell. No, no, no. Oh. Said there was no chance of that happening in his case because his legal bills were huge. Nice people doing nice things. From the Guardian newspaper in London,

there was a spectacular breach of security at the new U.S. Embassy in Baghdad this week. This is outside the bubble. The Embassy is the most heavily fortified in the world, built the highest security specifications possible, access to the site is restricted to those with difficult to obtain security passes. We've heard nothing about this because we were so busy listening to being told about that plot that never got anywhere near anything in New York. But, you know, it was announced by a U.S. attorney and nothing we've experienced in the last six months would incline us to believe they're political. The master plan for the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad was posted for all to see on the website of the architectural company that designed it, Berger Divine Yeager. Here's where the British reveal their lack of knowledge of American geography, quote, based in Kansas, Missouri, unquote.

Nobody knows anything. It's the information age. Computer-generated color images provided an overview of the entire complex, the Embassy building itself, the ambassador's residence, a Marine Corps guard post a swimming pool as well as volleyball and basketball courts. The company has now removed the images from its website after the state department complained, but the images have been picked up and are available on a variety of sites around the world. The website images for your convenience were labeled Baghdad U.S. Embassy compound master plan. One shows U.S. Embassy deputy chief mission residents with the Marine outside a half open steel gate. The state department acknowledged that the website posting posed problems, but a spokesman from Berger Divine Yeager played it down, saying that better images of the Embassy would be available on Google Earth. All right, that's reassuring. The Guardian also reports this week that there's evidence of serious irregularities at the heart of the process the world is relying on to control global warming,

the clean development mechanism. Now what could be wrong with something called that? Might have to oil it every once in a while, but it's supposed to offset greenhouse gases emitted in the developed world by selling carbon credits from elsewhere, has been contaminated by gross incompetence, rule-breaking, and possible fraud by companies in the developing world, according to UN Paperwork, an unpublished expert report, and alarming feedback from projects on the ground. And that ground feedback, man, that can hurt your ears. So it's like another oil for food. The Department of Defense spent nearly $31 million in three years in condolence payments to civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. No, but it didn't track how it spent the money, according to the government accountability office. It's the most detailed public study of compensation payments in the two wars. The military makes condolence payments for killing or injuring a civilian or damaging property. The Department doesn't indicate how many of these payments went for killed civilians,

injured civilians, or for property damage. And we haven't even thought yet of asking them for, of deducting the money for the food they might have eaten in the US military hospital, whether or recovering from their injuries. Let's think about that, shall we? We got to pay for this war somehow. That's news from outside the bubble. It's generally copyrighted feature of this broadcast. But onward, on that subject of Iraq, it's not just Malcolm Rifkin. It's not just the British Ministry of Defense. Norway is the most peaceful country in the world. Iraq, the least. This is a study announced this week, the Global Peace Index. It's called 121 countries from Algeria to Zimbabwe. On some 24 factors, including levels of violence, organized crime, and the military budget. Most European countries, including Britain, rank in the top of the most peaceful. The United States is nearer the bottom and 96th place.

Russia is fifth from last and 118th. This is a wake-up call. This is Steve Kilauea. Tom Kilauea. Who commissioned a study from the economist intelligence unit, part of the economist magazine. Norway is followed by New Zealand and second place, and Denmark and third. Iraq is at the bottom just below Sudan. Israel only two places from the bottom. The index is backed by international figures, including the Dalai Lama, Desmond Tutu, Jimmy Carter, and US economist Joseph Stiglitz, all winners of the Nobel Peace Prize. Small, stable countries, which are part of regional blocks, such as the 27th Nation European Union, are the most likely to be more peaceful. Income and education are crucial in promoting peace, said the study. Income and education. Let's have some of that. While the US military sends more troops into Baghdad for stays of 15 months or longer,

Washington Post reports some Iraqi army soldiers in the same counterinsurgency operation on a rotation schedule lasting just three months. Military experts have said the United-day Iraqi tours of duty are not long enough for the units to provide adequate help. The practice also complicates the task of ensuring that enough experience to Iraqi units will be available to replace US brigades in the capital that are drawn down. Yeah, that's important to keep in mind as the Brits leave, and we're alone. Brigadier General Michael Jones from the Joint Chiefs of Staff says, says, I shortage of experience to Iraqi units in Baghdad is one of the reasons they're relooking at their forced structure. Alright, let's take a deep breath and think about something nice, like Pakistan, our friend.

Pakistani police have arrested nine people, four of them doctors, four abducting people, drugging them, and stealing their kidneys for transplant operations. Where are we just hearing a couple of weeks ago that the Pakistanis are trying to increase tourism? Well, sure they are, they need the kidneys. Selling kidneys from living donors is not illegal in Pakistan. That's all you really need to know, as far as I'm concerned, repeat that. Selling kidneys from living donors is not illegal in Pakistan. Let's all go. Come on, hands. Medical experts say Pakistan has a reputation as the world's, quote, kidney bazaar. This is from the Australian newspaper, the age kidney bazaar. That sounds so much worse than liver bazaar to me for some reason. Police said those arrested in the eastern city of Lahore. Tricked people, then drug them before removing their kidneys. Tricked, then drug.

This is a complicated operation. You'd think they'd just drug them, but you have to trick them in order to drug them. You don't have to trick them once you've drug them, I would think. But I'm not a criminal. Quote, these poor people were given tranquilizers and deprived of their kidneys without their consent, according to Lahore police chief Malik Muhammad Ikbal. Hundreds of rich foreigners come to Pakistan every year and buy kidneys from live impoverished donors in a business worth millions. Pakistan has no law governing the trade in kidneys. A laborer, 36-year-old laborer said he had gone with a man who promised him a job, but he ended up in a hospital with a kidney missing. And the Pope, Pope Benedict, that's a Pope with some holiday sauce on top. No, it's not. Excuse me. Pope Benedict called on Pakistan to strengthen democracy. When's the next election in Vatican City, by the way?

And guaranteed freedom of expression. The principles of democracy assure the freedom to express political opinions publicly in a variety of ways, the Pope said, talking to Pakistan's new ambassador to the Vatican. Government opponents in Pakistan have called for the restoration of full democracy, but Pakistani authorities are tightening rules to restrict live television broadcasts of opposition rallies. The Pope said strengthening democracy with bolster national solidarity. The Pope, ladies and gentlemen, wants more democracy in our friend, Pakistan. The Pope, ladies and gentlemen, wants more democracy. The Pope, ladies and gentlemen, wants more democracy in our friend, Pakistan. Sneaky boy, sneaky boy. Fought tree with one of us and one of our gang. Sneaky boy, sneaky boy.

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This is Lesho and we haven't checked pork belly prices and it seems to me just an awful lot All right, I'm getting word that we have a call on our newsmaker line, so let's take that and then we'll get back to the other stuff in a moment Hello, you're on the air Harry Shurer? Yes, guilty as charged I'll tell you something, do you recognize this voice, Harry? And by the way, I'm loving the show today Thank you, it's a spe- So glad I got through and you're- It may I just say one quick thing, call screener is the nicest call screener of any radio show I've called Isn't she a nice lady? Wonderful woman Yeah, actually, actually my aunt Really? Yeah, you know, because I wanted a personal touch in the call screen

Yeah, she is, the call screener's side of the family Fun Yeah, how does the show sound when you're on hold? I mean, is it sound as good on the telephone? It's better Really? Yeah Interesting, I have to look into that I'm just taking a wild guess as far as the voice You know this voice, Harry, come on, don't be coy Okay, Yvonne Delafamina That's right, how are you, Harry? It's so wonderful to hear from you again, even though I called It's great to hear from you, Yvonne, it's been- Thanks It's been a while, I want to- Too long Excuse me? It's been too long? Is that what you're going to say? Not really, but I'll go with that Just, why don't you, normally when you call, I have to sort of brief listeners on your life experience I'm always afraid that I'm going to say something wrong Why don't you just give us the briefest summary of who you've been? Oh sure, I've been in show business most of this time, my career, Harry I was a life coach

You mean that sort of thing, or more, on a more personal- Well, yeah, the psychosexual base The psychosexual stuff would be good Well, I started life as a guy Didn't work out for me, as you know, we talked about it That didn't gel, like I had hoped, became a guy again Met someone at the heartbroken, you know how that can be Are you seeing anyone now, by the way? I'm married, I'm very happy And then that didn't work out, and then became a woman again Came a guy and just became a woman and really found myself in a blossomed And, you know, thrilled with life Taken the time to smell the roses and call Harry Sure No, aren't you sweet? But you have meant so much to me Thank you, well, it's a lot better than calling the roses and smelling Harry's hair I'll tell you that right now You would you do? That's what you do That is what I do I keep a love you, Harry Thank you So, Evon, you're calling today on the newsmaker line, which suggests that there's news of foot What's up with you? Well, yeah, gee, you know, I don't want to pick you back on a tragedy, Harry

But, and I knew you would be interested in this, I dated Phil Spector briefly And I was not called to test if I was just fine I don't really need to ink at this point And God, things are going great for me What things are happening for you? Well, I'm doing it currently working for the Lunesta cruise ship line You know, the people who make the sleeping aids, they have a cruise ship fabulous And I've got a six-month gig, as you we say On there, I'm doing a one-woman show What if Ethel Rosenberg had lived? Which is wonderful Wow It's on the same cruise where Rita Moreno lectures Uh-huh And it's just fun And no one has gotten any longer in fact It's a clean, it's a whistle Come on after the cruise line everybody Come on back Yeah, that's nice, that's nice to hear But anyway, let's get to the news of this Which is, as I recall, you said you dated Phil Spector, the music producer Who's now on trial for murder?

Yes, yes Harry, I, well, dated I had one date with Philip What? One date only Yeah But it was a memorable date You know, I was a gigantic fan, like so many of us Our generation was, we're, I'm a little younger than you But I remember it filled very, very well Now, when you say you dated, you had this one date with him Well, I had one date with him I met Philip for the first time, the second time I was a guy Second time you were a guy? I was working at the men's department of side of Warren Beverly Hills A wonderful men's shop Sure Yeah, and he had come in for some pants And one of those fancy, frilly tuxedo shirts That side of her is a famous for Yeah And you know, he was a bit arrogant A little full of himself Mainly about his inseam Really? Yeah, and he wanted the extra scalloping on the tuxedo shirt And I guess you could say that even then Phil Spector was, I don't know, believing his own shirts You know what I mean? Yeah, I do know what to love himself Yeah And the second time, I don't know if you're interested in all this backstory, but Yeah, yeah, surely Oh my God, let's see I would have been a woman for the third and last time

Please God, and I was teaching ballet little girls in El Hambra Uh-huh And I never forget it because it was memorable I was in a teal, my teal leotard My monster had broken down on the 405 And Philip and his driver, not the same driver that's testified Right Pulled off the side of the road, it was like two in the afternoon And they helped me change my tire, and it was only like, you know, it was early in the day And it was interesting and stuck out to me because Phil had two brandy Alexander's When he got out of the car Was this, you know, and I was so flustered to being late for class I didn't have to bother telling him that we had met at Side of Orr When was a guy? Yeah Whatever Was this the driver that spoke English better? No, strangely, this is a fella, not the same chap who's marvelous and articulate This was a gentleman who named Ramon, who understood English perfectly But had full cancer No And he spoke through one's little leg Oh, God Where, what? Yeah, I, I, oh, you know And it made me nervous when he was driving us because he drove with one hand

Oh You know, and I'm a skittish You're a skittish gal I like to be the host and the guest in a car, you know Uh-huh So, um, tell us about the, the occasion of this date, I guess, is what... Well, he asked me out and, uh, he picked me up at the ballet class Uh-huh So, and I was, you know, thrilled, I was... I had, within between the romantic, uh, entanglements at the time And, uh, how did you look at this point? I have a great, I would, I had been working out, you know And, um, felt good about myself and was very supple because I was dancing so much Limber? You were limber? Yeah, very limber And I could, you know, I don't know how graphic you want to get I could put both legs feet behind my neck Wow Well driving Haha, no, you're just kidding I'm kidding, I'm trying to do a hairy sheer on I appreciate that How am I doing? You're doing great Anywho, he, Philip picked me up at my ballet class Yes

And, uh, he was a trainer, Vicks, and we had, and this is what's so interesting, you know The, the classic famous six Navy Groggs he had, you know, those things Mm-hmm Wonderful umbrellas Rum, rum drinks, right? Rum drink, I didn't have that Yeah Care royale Uh-huh And, Phil said, what would you like to do now? He was a little bit in his cups, and I said, and I, you know, after one drink Because I, I drink so little, and I am on the antidepressant of medication I said, I'd love to see Hope floats, which was just out then By the time that movie was over, boy, he had sobered up, you know I don't know if you saw the film No, I didn't And, uh, we, uh, we went back to the castle in Alhambra And, uh, I was taken in surprise, really, to see that All the houses around the castle were so, you know, I want to say Dumpy Dumpy is what I want to say I want to say crappy, but I, yeah I want to say Dumpy radio Yeah Like those houses, like a block from the airport of shock by that Mm-hmm And, uh, Philip offered me another curial, and I had one And, he showed me John Lennon's guitar

Uh-huh Some of the Harry pulled out a Ronnie Spector's head When she tried to leave his little flesh on the ends of it Uh-huh It was like Harry kind of like a trip down my own private rock and roll hall of fame Wow You must have been thrilled Oh, gosh And, you know, uh, old Mr. Don started creeping up, you know, and got a little, you know And I had a dance class early that morning after that one of the leaves And Philip was a gentleman, excuse himself, and I, he went to the bathroom, and I could hear him, you know You're an aiding and crying a little bit, and I just thought maybe he had prostate problem, or whatever Yeah, yeah, painful, whatever Yeah, yeah Yeah Um, anyway, he comes back, and he pulled the gun Wow Pulled the gun, and I mean, tells me he wants to have sex with me Well, you must have been kind of flattered Well, I said to him, I was flat, and I said the fill in the interest of full of the closure I have to say I used to be a guy Mm-hmm And he put the gun away, and thanked me for a wonderful evening And, uh, you know, Harry, I'm not saying that I'm glad he didn't kill me Yeah

But as a woman, I was offended in a weird way, I don't know, I think the gals can understand this I mean, you know, at the time for all intents and purpose medically, and certainly emotionally, I was a woman Yeah So I did find it a tad sexist that he, um, didn't kill me if you know what I mean, and I don't mean literally No, I understand what you mean Yeah Just the removal of the gun itself was kind of an insult Well, a little bit of an insult, you know Now, have you, have you, uh, talked to any of the authorities or the attorneys involved in the trial? Are you involved in the trial? I tried to get Bruce Cutler I was, you know, I couldn't, they never returned Michael I guess they had, uh, what they needed That's Phil Specter's defense attorney Yeah In other words, you were volunteering to testify? Yes, well, I was Yeah Then this job came up and I didn't pursue it, you know, we set sail And I guess they had enough witnesses and, you know, I'm not taking sides and I don't know, and I wish everybody luck, you know Well, you clearly have experience with the alleged perpetrator, uh, why don't you share what you know about him Well, how can I say, you know, it's just very hard for me to believe that anybody who made a wall of sound would kill anybody, you know

I'm not saying I believe the defense team's version of the events, but I do know, you know, that I personally had tried to shoot myself At least on two separate first dates So I'm not saying I can put myself in the plural victims, I'm just saying that, you know, but for me at the time, I was depressed from all the hormone Uh-huh I was taking, yeah I was in a foreign country both times Wow, which country? No, in that, huh? Which country? Yeah, and that added to the depression and, uh, so I rather just stay on the sidelines on this one, you know But I can kind of say, well, you know, I've got it all within me to see many outcomes from the onset Well, Ivan Of the event Yeah, where did he held the gun when he pulled it on you? He was bringing it to my face when I said I had been a guy and then he put it right away and that was, and then, you know, got me my coat Uh-huh

Would you say you felt hustled out at that point? I felt like, uh, here's your hat, what's your hurry? Yeah, we were honest Yeah You know, maybe that's why I wasn't called, maybe I may not be the most sympathetic witness Did you have a sense that if you hadn't said that at that moment, the gun would have gone, what, into your mouth or to your temple or anything? I don't know where the relationship would have gone Harry, you know, you never know So much of it is fate Chemistry, you know, where you are in your own journey Let me ask you, um, did you ever try to get in touch with Phil Specter himself again or just go through his attorney? I mean, did you try to... No, I just went through the attorney, uh, I did call a number that he gave me, but I think he pulled one of those one number was wrong Uh, things that you can't really get them Yeah Which I hate, I hate that If on, how do you look now? Just give us a verbal picture of you now, hasn't it? This is gonna be, maybe for your history buffs, you're William Jennings Bryant Sure The great Golden Tongue Orator Yeah

As a woman, a beautiful, strong kind of, uh, babe dee-strickson Uh-huh, babe dee- But now, but now, say Okay, and, uh, sorry, you are blonde, are you, uh, a lovely grey-haired lady? I, I'm kind of a platinum white blonde Oh, very, so, yeah, that was... I'm a year in the summer because I loved swim That was, so, that was so hot in the fifties, what happened to that? I think it's back Really? Yeah Okay, good And, how do you, how do you dress these? What's your style? What's your look? What's your, what's your, what's your movie? Kind of rock and roll prep, preppy Uh-huh By the way, Harry, do you know, um, my, my manager, Wally Laguna, says he's a big friend of yours Went to school with you, who said you, you were dear, dear friends Wally Laguna Yes, yeah You remember him? No, I don't Oh, but I, you know, I was not really a fitter inner in school Um, Yvonne, if I, if I just pressed you to the wall, uh, rhetorically speaking Oh Rhetorically speaking

Okay And, uh, said, uh, do you think that Phil Spector, uh, is guilty of the crime of which he's charged? What would you say? You, you, you would be asking me or the, uh, the lawyers were No, this would be just me, just you and me talking on the radio Ah, gee, I'll tell you, Harry, it depends what day you got me Wow, hmm I'm so back and forth on this one Really Um, I have more strong opinions on other murders, though Like? Um, that guy who put his wife in the boat, took her out, body out The several guys who take them on the boat Yeah, I, I, it's a thing, it's a thing now Don't get a boat, fellas, a wife, huh? If Phil Spector called you, let's say he's, he's on bail now, right? Or is he in jail? I think he's, he's on bail Yeah And, uh, I'm glad he found someone, the wife looks wonderful like, uh, pillar of strength, really And the wife's mother And the wife's grandmother, do you see her? No Yeah They all look like pillars of strength? Yes, they all look like free pillars of strength If, if for some reason you ran into Phil Spector, let's say, changing another tire

Or, uh, if he called you, would you go out on the date with him? I have the same number, by the way You do? Yes Good If, would you go out on the date with him? That's a tough one Um, I go out with another couple Uh-huh You know? Would the woman and the other couple have to be a transsexual or? No, absolutely not So you're broad-minded and... Oh yeah, yeah No, just somebody fun, someone that can carry the ball conversationally Do you know something? Maybe to, uh, oh, to the Renaissance fair Something like that where it wasn't like a date date Mm-hmm You know? Sure, it's just kind of you're doing something, I love those kind of dates Just fun Yeah When you're kind of in an event Yeah Did Phil Spector seem in the time that you knew him? Paranoid, that's been a word that you've been used to describe him a lot Um, not Paranoid, just kind of like, um... Oh, gosh, opinionated Uh-huh You know, at one point he kicked the driver in the back of the head

And I thought, ooh, where's that coming from? Mm-hmm You know? Where was it coming from? Back seat Oh No, it was just coming from, uh, I don't know, he was a little drunk and, uh... Mm-hmm And, uh, you know, it wasn't the same Phil from the beginning of the evening, I'll tell you that Really, really? What would be, if he did call? Yes What would be your dream? Well, let's roleplay Yeah, what would be your dream date with him at this point? Wouldn't it be that we're not a science fair, or would it be? I'd love to see the drowsy, shaperone, and I can't get tickets Uh-huh I love that, I love the music from that Yeah Okay, um, well maybe he's... Well, Skandy is close Yeah, Skandy is close 25 years ago How can both close? How can both? Yeah, yeah What's going on? I don't know, I'll hold the kids What? It's that guy, it's that, it's that, uh, he's in Shrager everything now Yeah He's in Shrager this, you know? Yeah, I do know I want... You know, my meat and potatoes gal I'd love to just go have a, you know, big, big pile of meat somewhere Excuse me?

You know, like the way cock and bull I say, I say Go up and they cut you an end cut Yeah Yeah Alright, well maybe he's listening, and if he were listening, Yvonne, uh, given your experience What would be your message for Phil Spectrum? Well, I guess I would just throw back his own, uh, title back at him River Deep Mountain High So, there's gonna be the mountain highs again, you're in the River Deep Now, the River Deep Park, but now, but now, but then the mountain high again And not to lose faith, baby, you know? Wow So, you, you, you would despite your own personal pain be, uh, giving a message of inspiration You gotta, because this is, in this country, he's innocent until they, they show that he did it Uh-huh You know Yeah Alright, well that's, that's- I think That's- Otherwise, let's all go to Cuba and get that health care, you know what I mean? I do know what you mean With the why are we living in this great country? Yeah Yeah You know, we, then let's just Michael Moore ourselves down to Cuba Got it, got it Otherwise, the founding fathers and stuff like that, you know what I mean?

I do know what you mean, so that, that speaks to me of, uh, a certain amount of growth, uh, Yvonne, since the last time we saw it Well, you know, Harry, I have covered the water fun emotionally, and I, I know what it is to be down I also know what it feels like to be in a lot of pain in between your legs Mm-hmm And I'll tell you what, you give your empathy Yeah And even if there's a good lord and then the L.A. uh, George Prudence people Uh-huh Find him to have been culpable Yes Then I say, okay, then he'll do his time and he still has amazing ears musically Uh-huh So maybe he'll be like what, uh, very, uh, musical and J.L. is what you're suggesting Well, I mean, maybe he can teach, uh, music production too Bloods in the creeps or something Oh, I don't want And give something back Yeah, that's a wonderful vision Um, Yvonne De La Femma, uh, uh, you're, you're on the cruise ship now I'm on the cruise ship, and Harry, can I just do a quick, quick little plug? I know your show is not that kind of thing, you're on public radio

Right, non-commercial, but go ahead Yes, sure Oh, thanks I'm lending my name to a small kitchen grill Called the hamburger bullet, hamburger bullet Now it's kind of like a George Foreman kind of a grill Yeah And with any luck and this little plug It should be available in all your 99 cents stores in about a year and a half So look for it All right, how much will it sell for? 99 cents 99 cents And you can do chicken patties on it And um, we're still experimenting with the meat That we, you know Mm-hmm Real handy, a little thing Got it Well, good luck with that And when you say you're lending your name, meaning there's some, uh, funds We're gonna find financing for it Yeah We're just trying to find the right people that we feel good about Yeah, good people We'll make a wonderful quality product Yeah, for 99 cents For 99 cents That's amazing Isn't it? Yeah, Yvonne, so You can even get chopped meat for 99 cents So we're able to cook it Where, uh, where is the ship moored right now that you would be calling it? In Long Beach Oh, okay

Well, good luck on the rest of the cruise Well, thanks so much Come on down and see us when we're in dry dock And, uh, I'll do my best I felt the Rose Brigad lived A little bit of a history lesson, but it's not dry It's not like going to school I understand I find a lot of comedy in it Interesting, interesting So, uh, like family comedy With the husband and the son-in-law Yeah, in our version and our kind of fanciful version She gives up Julius And goes on, has a fantastic life Opens a little shape in the East type restaurant And you know, the interesting thing, Harry We cook on stage With the grill? No, not with my grill Although, that's a fabulous idea, isn't it? But I cook a fish dish in one of those parchment pouches Wow, on stage The thing isn't, and maybe you can explain this to me You can't serve it to the audience because of the health code Oh, sure Well You smell all this divine food Well, if I can't give it to the audience Uh, two words would explain that Show folks, you know what I'm saying? Yeah I know If I'm going to thank you for your insight into Well, thank you, Harry, and gosh Keep up what you're doing, because we love it Thank you, and just one final question on the personal basis

Uh, gall to stay? Oh, gosh, yes Never been happier And it's the year of the woman, you know that Yeah, yeah Good to hear that But to hear that And to the family, good luck to you Thanks, Harry, great, great talking to you Thanks Be in touch more often I don't have your number Thanks, bye-bye Nicholas Drake, how your songs made my heart ache It's worth that you spoke every note That you sang more dead than alive How those demons inside you Denied you the joys of an everyday scribe At an old 29 where you thought it was time to move on Yet your sadness and pain could not dim The exquisite refrain Your lovely song Walks by the scene in the rain on umbrellas

You're such was a soundtrack of your bits of sweet world The gift was your curse Your best through the worst You were one and a million A poet and heard And the nearer you got The more you were caught in the fray In a world of applause Your voice was ignored And so you just turned away And I wish you could see the way people like me Who've lived through your story Who've tried to be strong Understand why you choose to be battered and bruised Finding losing the fight just to follow Follow your muse Nicholas Drake, how your songs made my heart ache

Such beauty from pain with a right With a wrong, it's the gift you obeyed It's the art that you made, it's the price that you paid for you Your lovely song Your lovely song And now it isn't gentlemen The apologies of the week, won't you? Oh, let's start with the TB guy, shall we? This art for any free, for pain that I have caused anyone I think if people look at my life And that's not how I've lived my life Okay, the TB guy, ladies and gentlemen

And there's more, ousted premiere of Thailand Tuxen Shunawattra, Shinnambattra This week I apologize to his supporters After his political party, the Tyrak Thai party Was dissolved and he was banned from politics over violations of electoral law And a handwritten letter dated from London Where he's been based since his ouster He expressed surprise that he and other senior party members 110 of them had been banned from politics for five years Quote, I as the founder and leader of the party Up until the coup apologized to all party members, executives and supporters That met with this unexpected fate Unquote, also in Asia, Chinese students who humiliated a teacher in class Reminiscent of the practices during the cultural revolution Apologized after a video clip was posted online triggering national criticism They find an eclipse showed a group of students throwing bottles at their geography teacher God, I know how much I wanted to do that

And jeering him in a noisy classroom A male student was shown abusing the teacher He aged nearly 70, rushing towards him, swearing and threatening to slap his face The school's website was later hacked by angry internet users And thousands of people nationwide condemned the students and urged them to apologize Student humiliation of teachers was encouraged during the 1966-76 cultural revolution The great step, great leap forward Teachers were then spat on, cursed and made to wear dunts' hats Quote, please allow me to offer my sincere apologies to teacher Son, our schoolmaster, all the teachers and students And also to the public The Beijing News quoted the students as saying in an open letter they had not intended to humiliate the teacher But just to have some fun, they were quoted as saying There was an apology after a fight between a picture and a catcher of Chicago Cubs It's all my fault I feel bad since Carlos Zambrano, who started the altercation

We're all humans, we all make mistakes on one We apologize to the Cubs organization and Cubs fans and everybody who saw it on television I hope this ends everything Said Michael Barrett Also part of the Fistivities After challenging New Jersey Governor John Corzine for not wearing a seat belt today Show co-host Matt Lauer apologize this week for an interview with Republican presidential contender Mitt Romney In which neither man wore a seat belt while driving through New Hampshire Wait, one of Mitt Romney's kids is named Tag Mitt and Tag, what's going on here? We have some American names ladies and gentlemen, please I'm not saying anything's wrong with Tag It's a good, good name Iran will allow Al Jazeera to resume its presence in Iran now that representatives of the network have repeatedly apologized Sorry, reportedly apologized for broadcasting an insult

A grand against grand Ayatollah al-Ali al-Sistani And made, quote, some changes at managerial level Good to know even the Iranians are angry at Al Jazeera Down under, excuse me, down under in Australia The news director of one of the three major network channel seven has been arrested for Drunk driving and dangerous driving Peter Meekin News director of channel seven said, quote, I would like to say that I apologize for my conduct I've been found guilty, I apologize to my family for the grief that I've caused them I apologize to my employer and colleagues He's really sorry Pittsburgh Steelers offensive line coach Larry Zireline Apologize this week for accidentally emailing an explicit sex video to numerous NFL employees including The Commissioner of the League

He said the incident is been difficult for him and his family And that he intends to use his team issued computer only for football business from now on It's hard because I made an inexcusable mistake Zireline said It was hard first for the organization But when you've been at this stuff for as long as a lot of us have tough things happen and you've got to move on And that's what we're doing, I don't quote The governor of Jakarta in Indonesia has accepted a letter of apology from the premier of the Australian state of New South Wales Saying he's been touched by the apology I don't even bother with the rest of that, that's just nice The corporate officials of Sears have apologized to two police officers who were told to leave the retailer's store at a Des Moines mall Because their uniforms distracted the store's security guards Officers Richard Glade and David Coise and they were kicked out of the Sears store in the Merrill Hay Mall in separate incidents Kimberly Freely, a Sears spokeswoman, described the episode as a case of mistake and identity

Our store management was attempting to address an ongoing issue of excessive socialization between mall security officers and store associates Which had been hampering associates productivity In no way was this an attempt to prevent honor off duty officers from shopping at our store Said, Freely, the apologies of the week latest gentleman of copyrighted feature of this broadcast Where would you like your nuclear waste? One Australian state could be keeping nuclear waste in a shipping container parked in a hospital parking lot

Or you could take the Russian approach According to an Norwegian environmental group Tanks of spent Russian nuclear fuel were dumped in the arctic Are now leaking and risk setting off an uncontrolled chain reaction It's clean, safe, nuclear power Freely news of the warm two photographs taken 40 years apart showed that one of the world's most spectacular ice formations The field of ice towers around Mount Everest is shrinking I know the feeling Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes this edition of the show the program in turn next week at the same time over these same stations Over NPR worldwide on the USN440 cable system

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