Act Against Violence - A Town Hall Meeting

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equipment or bob rea sanders welcome to our town hall act against the violence we're not just to talk about young people and bylaws but as for programs that are successfully helping kids avoid getting involved in violence what his victims are as perpetrators there is an african proverb that says it takes an entire village to raise a child we want to explore whether our village north texas fort worth dallas and all the big and little places in between really believes that a more importantly acts on it were the questions we hope to answer is just how far or adults willing to go to save a child i'll be helped in this by a riddle between the lines panelist on the air on the far side of the studio with as rob allen and only close to meat regina montoya

we will be examining three key areas that make up a village home school and community helping us will be our studio audience compose the parents kids teachers service providers and representatives of the justice system we'll also be held by our panelist all who represented one of those three areas drivers were then as a superintendent with the texas youth commission he's been with the t y c for eighteen years the texas youth commission is the equivalent of the prison system serves system rather only for juveniles that he was he deals with all the kids who had been through the juvenile justice system ecuador's with the parenting center in turn county the parenting center teaches positive parenting skills and works to prevent child abuse and neglect truman thomas is executive director of the youth and family impacts centers which act as a conduit for help social emotional services that risk families and youth lemon avenue bridge is part of the delivery system for the services francis chummy this

as a stigma campbell high school francis has participated in a peer mediation program a program in which teams of other teams at jackson as a counselor at the mary grimes education center in carrollton the mary crime center is an alternative school for kids in trouble or kids whose needs are not met in traditional school settings we open discussion we'll move some heat action if you want to help one of the programs that will be talked about on this program what you need help yourself you can call these phone numbers in dallas county area code two one four seven for seven three seven one one in karen county area code eight one seven a seven eight zero one zero zero these numbers will be shown on the screen periodically during the program one of our goals is to avoid platitudes to keep this discussion grounded in reality so we went out and talk to real kids about their real lives and here's some of what they told us we were nine ninth inning

and we're carrying hampton said if you don't i'll even when they say in the future i always believe than ten thousand most of the novel is that is that about you know fighting people into an hour i think instead most of them the others get to tear the houses down there nowhere to go so they cut to meet the queen and three so we got our apartment and they are still there and they made the keys the guys to help us out with what to do at the home quizzing otherwise that their mom had kicked him and stuff so we help each other so we're fully tear gas woods' game to me many you know out of my friends have a lot of money for their parents' e n that only certain that they'll ever warrior buy this buy this as bad as the more i don't think because a lot of those friends have become extremely it's

actually active and i think that's because they're looking for work and on police unit then there's rape i'd say a serious one out of very ineffective divide all my friends i am as than right date rape i don't know anyone who has been raped by a you know an anonymous attack her but i know tons and tons of people have been raped by dates are even neighbors or friends you know this latter day powers that doesn't undermine the neighborhood a and some of the my cancer became their despair because they get paid for it the city's infamous they fare as if the parents in the ground that's been my time with this enabling wide community and activities for us to dale i was game one time one thousand than being in a day is now an adjoining a bit like theirs we have an

organization where we want to change and the adults perception about this you want them to know that we were not violent i mean there's some teenagers that cares about the community wants to change and improve the community as we do to major projects we learn and develop leadership skills and so right now the community looked up to us as a leadership as a leader cause they go around and help people like to go it's apartments until people's an england team from in front and prevention of homework burglary and wound up didn't then really mad all the crimes and all that were none before la can afford turn somebody pass away i'll speak i needed money him up parents can get it from

money that i want to respect people and getting started on tech and ponies to think or least i have met several days there when all my family may might say we get worse we're so i went and rock people shouted people and when police took a hands on now an awful you too and we're notre dame vera dare wright by the nose out where no human going to now be on file week on the same night and there were mainly get worse to get good now suffer hang onto us army coupon code that they retained me as i have a nephew and he'd copy me whenever i do and just a thing and only copy in the silly season until something positive you know i wonder you know stay in school and getting an education mean i don't wanna know why well i mean you know joining an impolite as an

overseas we do amazing on there i've been thinkin that maybe maybe an analogy or not define a job in after school to help out with the bills were you know hoped to do something you know so one of our mom mom to be struggling to try to get my foot a fan of the worst and there were the state and the government you know plays and sworn in for a pleasant grove it's given five days didn't know whether cutting care that they can do anything to meet they haven't done already are susan to this airship from the get go it's only with two

years ago a marine sediments in wilson's war greenwell estonian but other side are less testy now and i walked a lifeless let me in the face i really encourage people to do it produced a buzz from these young people that we just heard i'm going after palin's start out first by responding to what they heard the same people say in the context of what you do and friends were there and the tools kids aren't for your kids when they go from here we will try to in most cases and gets home and we try to work with those families before they get home and there's not bring in those families to oil facility and an act of performance family workshops where we had the children and the parents interacting together and the gold it owes to keep these key is to have them to return to home that was in the once violent one dysfunctional in some form and chatted about those firms some skills

so that was a kid comes back better the family is also better when he returns home it was going to work just as well steve may i say a lot of things and that these children they're so are saying that could be helped that improved parenting skills when parents that many times i think parents today i never got their needs met as children themselves and now they're trying to pair with the same skills that didn't work on bingham if we can educate parents to the developmental our task of children they've been more understanding i think for one thing most of these children were asking for respect and that respects starts at home and i think respect can be built on education and parenting styles but it has to start very early i heard many of the young people talk about that they want to be normal what they thought was normal

or one young person says well my parents are kicking out of kicking my friends out and therefore we want to have a normal stable relationship i heard another young person talk about respect to her and another young person talk about we didn't have enough money in order to make even sleep ants and so they are looking for ways that they perceive normality if they want to be normal and so they are about trying to become normal and i think that that's what we as adults in our society should be helping define what it means to be normal when the means to be like everyone else and the end provide some vehicles by which they've they came in fact a search out some of these issues in the end situations where you yes i do as for the games there is a lot of gains in schools now we i try to look past and to my friends pass that because what we need now is to graduate

because some of these people out there say they had their parents that some people don't depend on the parents in your parents will not always be around to depend on them so as me going to high school i talked to a lot of students and talent you know not to join the games and that's again involved in any any activity that might harm in any way yes yes and they did it they wouldn't usually researchers are coming at it from a school standpoint even though i've not met the students that we sell individually i met them many times before a and as educators so we're pretty big job in that is to do something with these youngsters to help them say it's going to have some self worth and as i listen to them today they're saying that the one thing that that ran through the things that they say and that was the lack of hope that they head so i see our job as

educators is to provide some vehicle for them be an alternative school like i man or another other ways that they can have hope says they can they can move on with their lives and little bit about the country's future my particular alternative school was located in carrollton farmers branch is called mary grant education center sort of late seventies and the primary thrust of our school is to offer a place for students who have dropped out of high school are students who are currently enrolled in high school were not feeling successful or not not passing in the feeling good about themselves a young lady who's pregnant and i can choose to come down there sometimes will have to come from other alternative savings and so what we see our job is is to abide to my home where they feel like they're wanted and where they can be successful i think a lot of people saying that we would get it because in school they did teach various bills

getting into school wasn't such a hard job getting kids to school is just as cool as so boring of things are still there we live in a different setting as well regina thank you have i guess one of the scourges one epidemic sister in our society is the fatherless homes and it's very difficult to get those parenting skills in the sport of valium and sport kids and give them in an environment that they can succeed and so for all its very difficult postcard up whatever woman has has done that as a mother that basically we see that the kids will rise or themselves or whatever as the consistent level the expectation that surrounds him to life and that the expectation to be change that can be all but guarantees due to learning more about what motivates kids i've been hearing this for a no twenty years of our life that we get to do that

apparently we gotta keep is a school isn't he's not new problems i m e m am i wrong to think he's in you judge thomas johnson with his justice and he's in dallas county you deal with a lot of those kids right at the truancy intervention with the first danger signals and you've been known to track down parents and an end for some of that responsibility on them how does that work well week we care about the family probably the wrong person as possible i hear and they'll even in this rule out here some excuses i hear talk about one per family but they were the things that's missing from from the homeless at the paris having control of the children well this one paired with that is this both parents in my call with i have two current payments company of the church i cannot control base chow they have lost control zabala double one parent family up into what we must say that we have parents there's a challenge of the rome because they pay the bills are paid to be alive during this

book you're not in control of their children and i submit to you then when bob rea and nine when the reverend horton and you will grow on education was the number one priority in our whole and that is what we have missed now where our parents are not pushing education as number one priority in the whole posse put doctors and they have good education they are so our children can make in future it was a tricky a family comes to i know you sometimes sentenced him to counseling and why was i worked at a responder that giving order to do so yes and this is where you put some order and discipline in in the family and a bacon fallen law court order and they can bottles or his best bets in the hole and what we do with the law say that i must do it was on the first coffins has found that and the twenty five dollars each day that the young person decides who and we had a file less you up to twenty five billion

dollars but through southwest family institute and do the cooperation mr chad we read in the dallas other schools system we came out what the counseling program and we service more than seventy five families yet last year about drones according to teen court and only one family came back through to repeat this as it were what share of europe's sixteen year old mother now but of a of a child is a lot of that making says the judges just mentioned oh yeah what would you tell another fifteen year old who is thinking about having a child what is a day like for you as a sixteen year old mother of a child well sometimes it's ok as real the first day in his car horn because hey i haven't grown up here and i have a head of iran's teach me how to take her baby is really poetic you know but i would have asked mike sutton

one appears not to do it really don't do it it's not really wise you know it and if it happens you know take classes get whatever you can to learn how to take your personal accounts how difficult has it been for you to try to get these parenting skills and to get the kind of education that the judge was talking about it has been so necessary in a time when he was growing up and all of a sudden growing chorus of what about education or is it hasn't been for you to get these programs how are you yes i don't know i can't really answer queries it's like you're sitting next to erica how soon you're living with right now and you're eighteen years old and what do you what're you saying is you're there with this one year old child and trying to learn about taking care of this child well as he has generally not i mean she religious travel we started going to school together and chew on for a while

and she couldn't girl because she had her baby second so amy working we would take care about health her name i would go to school in the danish you'd go to school and i know why are you know a with our work on the day she didn't have to go to school shoulders or three times a week and that ad and that's why she's in with these kits the west see from her background nobody really tiring thing of my background nobody taught me so i kind of feel that the things that i've learned i can help her learn what i've learned and i just had to help her with her and her family right there a cousin we must take a look at the situation i'm looking at a six year old with a one year old child living with an eighteen year old and it seems like you guys are come out with a very noble arrangement helping each other at the same time based on what i've been hearing is your child or something here and i'm wondering i mean how how do you keep your child from from playboy do you know do you know i mean are you going to keep the trial from becoming on the streets

wainwright try even out to me the way we can at least say ground zeros you know he's only a year old he knows right route would try to teach him the best that we can even though we're both still yearned that we were the way we can talk about it but sometimes late at night the things that we do it we knew that were robbed you know we did everything to it to everything that we have very bad and even though he's young and we were you know retired a year the site you know he sits and he might have to go to the bathroom right little more worried now i deserve it turns it makes it as their well i mean week we talk now you know the us was due yet he does likes it as a challenge as the ottaway says like oh yeah it should be now however say you know what you have to say the tide is totally didn't notice he's telling and they know i think between bumpers returned a teacher

today a mother who is at the other somewhat the other end of the spectrum he's been through the war is a little bit right mr patterson we're gonna cut more just an interview with this phrase from a ski i guess a poison girl and this is her son stand up to jam and end these folks have been through some some troubles chat spend in a little bit of trouble right you and tell us a little bit about that and that mr thomas paterson and ask for some ideas on how they can avoid it and tell me what what happened to you we'll flag on the watch will be an eye doctor a nice gets cooler to america like the absurdity but was jailed or change a year could happen next a missile given the new political bickering being a mother in that situation what about you what you do beforehand to try to avoid it and what you do afterwards and wale they met i thought most and did raise concern for sixteen years from a failed in and did

everything that a good mother or i'll let him a cure for them he got me wrapped around he did i like alice show him and tell him and been little boy and being a teenage was totally different and i never lived at home as a teenager i was part of my little boy and actually start act announced of us adults oregon counseling time to cope in a just to his adolescent and it did help me to understand why he is this set in merry go in and then it was hardest hit in that just and ham i fear i could say hi i'm a map he was used to make given him all the time and again whenever it in us bought at a different sport in bed as he got older he knew what having chicken dinner but he says never was in there for him he still wanted more

getting there you go an hour you be human with your dad now has around in there i have to live as the smallest the course this is a heavily on a house arrest in a new dance police officers aren't as ed been a good experience for the top which are on strike now will you the how are you doing though chad i mean how you what you think you're doing that in a lot of ways no way to make a mint in a base for sweet tooth for the world that their jailers here is what you are yet more this year because a new roses and i knew if i did a new anything no matter what it was that it ended in boot camp or pay attention that you've heard a lot of these kinds of stores and parents have achieved absolutely and again he was lucky i may be jailed him turn him or young but the extra thing that he had going for him was a mother who was willing to open up to new ideas and another who is

committed to her since success and that's one reason why vail turn him around today he still had a base pair of love and death i think it tells us that it is never too late to work with your children and to change their lives i would say there's one program that we have he interrogated by the young man's mother who are possibly doesn't have support systems with our parent partners and we assign a carefully trained volunteer to go with that another eight in the home and shelby and discipline techniques and nurturing techniques how to play with your children which is very important and now that's one of those programs that i think is directly affecting young mothers that need help you've been working with a number of the program stalked right and in the fort worth independent school district is a psychologist please if you would stand up what are some of the issues that you see there that frank harris npr adding sound like it's more and more difficult in how people get through it at this point although it's not easy we have really a lot of parents out there who

care and i think everybody's doing the best they can in the situation that they find themselves we do have an awful lot watt huge number of young people or where is the system breaking down because we see that violence is getting is escalating among the youngsters is not the crime is necessarily increasing over the last number of years but it's the violent crime children are angry and out and lots of them feel abandoned lots of internalize this in the end when you have the violence it might be a symptom of other things a symptom or not it's securely attached as an infant and down one of my skills that i service new lives which is an alternative school for pregnant parenting teens i also courted a program called quote center project and we match volunteers with children kindergarten through fifth grade these children had been identified by their teachers as experiencing a little bit of an adjustment problem

and i feel like this is pretty good how about the teachers' how important are they to the entire process because we've heard that before with parents now you bring up the issue of teachers in the schools what other things could you see that the teachers could get involved in or other avenues to make the whole system work teachers are are doing an excellent job and in lots of times they're overwhelmed because the schools are turning into nurses social workers and mothers in the end you know fathers and teachers in an expected to do at all i think that all of our programs the schools the teachers the great center project we see us as a support systems for the family and we are not there to take place in the family ms sonders i hear about all the schools now you know that just one kick people out and okay gaza probably kicked out us in the jail why weren't on a building were jails are these days are gonna be an alternative is just getting his eyes glisten in jail well we got we got a couple people reroute been involved some us alternatives an hour to go next to tim james is with us from a

campfire girls and boys and you had a terrific quote from albert einstein i'll probably mangle it but it went something like the significant problems we face cannot be solved by using the same level of thinking that created those problems what you mean by that well i think it's more what einstein meant by that i was just taken with it came across my desk in a totally unrelated their form but i was taken by it and it in a really cause me to think about the fact that we're not gonna be able to solve the problems just by adding programs just by saying well years and years of progress a problem let's create a new program was great new source of funding were really gonna have to re energize ourselves and we think the way we are addressing young people today i think an example that for my own agency is a program that we call sap or challenge and a separate challenges a program specifically geared toward preventing kids from becoming involved in gangs

and helping those are already at some level involvement it's it's it's it's a program that addresses their needs today but it's being delivered by a very old line very traditional organization that being campfire boys and girls we take a look again kids are when it look again kids about that one of the things i noticed was that they had a social structure their social organization agro they have a leadership not on how they selected leadership maybe not in a very good way with their leadership they had colors or a uniform if you will and they had activities that were being wary will supervise them are pretty dangerous activities but their activities and my first thought was that gun they've invented campfire and it's my thought that many of the main line youth organizations abandoned the needs of our adolescence years ago and safir challenge is an attempt to get that that what a staffer it's really campfire the nineteen ten repackaged

in a more contemporary way that kids today will find attractive and worthwhile for to participate in west talk to one of those kids who are those young people at which is to hand out this is monochrome there's so i mean you're fourteen years old they're fifteen sorry outdated information and i know you work hard for that extra year for you you're not a surly it in a couple of the law but you missed it here ninety five days of school which is some that's more than i ever mess that's that's a really a record but now you turn around and you're now mentoring other kids an answer or helping them on on this program and you're involved in the soccer program tell us what it is and what you do and what attracted you i was a temper some that didn't get along with as a kid lemon and unlike compressed thomas solomon i guess my working with medicaid flight from pleasant grove all clear in east dallas they can help me cause we're all together we can make it together we heard talk to each other and even there they're in different games in and we do things

together like i went on trips we did it i don't like to go to oklahoma when they repel know they're polling in perspective and stuff like that and eighties tiki her village upon whom i understand there's some level of secrecy in terms of what you can tell me about the separate programs are rare remember the know it all it is so like tuck your mom to record this for certain sense in a post joins this is mrs l bean or a nurse or what was the critical difference you have one son who's who's had some trouble with the law has been and two rc and he have your daughter's actively involved in helping other kids and get them on on the path of the straight now what what made the difference between the two children as well my son was always in trouble with us china get help for him of intelligence agencies too and he's now in gainesville and everything else i do decided at the

time that elena bought them to join staffer and everything else and he did and she did and he was doing pretty good everything else that he just really wasn't interested in like they really want that they really have to change if they want change on my say my kids with them ready for it prepared for it and so he's in gainesville now he's been there awhile money well ice to start in a larger parent kind of help out see what i could do and when i started seeing that she was going towards always have these problems and palaces liking mourn her because as to begin with iverson when he was kid in trouble and everything else and i see that she was here she was angry because i was just paying too much attention to him because you know i don't have time for her and it was just like she was going downhill after noticing that and i said i needed help you know i need some kind of soul i've been through a lot of programs and agencies and everything else just to get help and all that and it's

worked and it you know it you know it takes time i mean you can't give up and i feel like that in and she's doing a lot better and everything else and i think it is i thinking you know they're so for somebody out there somewhere you go out there and good regardless of which said or anything like that but i think it's the surfer problems are a big problem and everything else can fire and all that thank you very much there are different programs in different ways of exploring these issues and one of them is the blue dragon explore explore a post as well the compound was eighteen years old if you'll stand us about what you've been involved in what you're doing and maybe a little different from what we've just heard as well ayon says and then dj from these two months now and their christmas holidays we went to on this where an elderly of the house and gave busy as which are flowers which wrote a meeting of two old people and they reelected because you know and in that the family the old and calm down the family which to come see him and ghost new and things imprint

smiles when this they saw us i'm so stick to have to do them and make them better use the smiles of the good helping you know the committee and you know people who needed help such as young refugees rebuild people was like for two for security goes by kenny's doesn't is not that you know isn't that good and is a love our list and there was a death and robberies and would alert things interact with the police and on an artist group to help you know the committee and on and you're just people do you see this is another part of your family has become now may be replacing part of your family or is it just something supplementing it and it only understood his part of town because these are people that i know and some of friends and wrong here you know is it help me use it diane's advisor yet healed me to do like things and you know just different things in it to the end threw away will be

mentioned ron ron you've been involved with this program for a number of years is one of your stance what you see the difference is that it's making and the community it is basically based in east dallas at this point so tell us what you're saying is as some of these changes latif of their activities or a lot of things are changing though with these years those individuals their self esteem is rising the feel that they're contributing something to the community and i feel like they are better in the overall quality of life in the community how laird that the community in which these kids are working as an area where by in the past decade and a half the federal government began placing literally thousands of refugees from the killing fields of cambodia laos and vietnam where these communities have become isolated impoverished enclaves where there's very little services and the only interaction they have would be with passing patrols with the police but a very high crime area with a lot of boundaries fear of police fear of health authorities are language and cultural barriers and so forth these kids are growing up victims of a cycle of violence that has followed them

from the war torn areas of southeast asia and such and we've also found that within this community that with the with the victimization that's going on and a lack of services these kids are growing up and finding the gangs are the only things i can offer them open ended and freedom and such to express themselves with this so with a blue dragon two were doing is as haunted mansion his ruling peoples within the apartment complexes are involved in feeding programs that at the un downtown shelter and doing other things that will enhance their quality of life and make them feel good about themselves and become good strong leaders thank you i think that makes his religion it seems to me that what i'm hearing from young people on the people involved him somebody intervened in their lives ok at a lot of people's lives nobody's intervened in azusa me joyous trickling your losses and you you've been reaching out to the people who are the kind of people who killed him mr clark well that's not going to make sense

if if we don't understand that the kids who are growing up with parents who have totally abdicated their responsibility and we don't understand the broad implications of that of that kind of environment they were going to be doomed to be victimized by those kits a spiritual sister a morehouse college a promising area is a great teacher what about the people who who killed well the day that they had no apparent no parents no one to take care of them they probably been standing for themselves and on the state's most of their lives are i was but when they walked into the courtroom day i'd never think it's like that dressed like that or who talked like that it was it was a real revelation to me that those kind of kids existed but now we have to and that's why i'm reaching out is because i was i didn't know that these kids these cardigans you

mentioned before the show that you really felt that the system had failed it he had completely at least had failed these two students and so in the end the system failed your son because he was as barbara mentioned a promising student graduate of st mark's wouldn't varsity football player just back from his summer vacation from morehouse college what do you see the changes are that you see now in your own personal life that you've been trying to to make in terms of making those changes for the system well i'm not sure how to go about it i know i can see what some of the problems are like an articulate themselves and i'm not sure i don't think i have the answers are one of the serious problems that we have with our system is their children especially very young children don't understand consequences and if a child goes out and commit crime and the consequence doesn't come until three four five six months later or the crimes committed again and again consistently escalating and the child it really you know the consequences don't get any worse our bats that's a problem with with the system on the

other thing with the system is we talk we talk about accountability on the part of the children and accountability on the part of the parents where is the system accountable out when the system is growing up our windows when the system is making the stakes with gifts how knows what one knows where the box that's when a thief that thing when he'd do that hardest of drivers i think there are some things that won't come for this year in the legislature that would mostly because juvenile crime is one of the top issues of this year's legislative and joyous and she'd heard me say that minute time something we do like you're built like holden kids accountable think also in this statement that when kids although most unlovely they need loved the most and i say that because these kids are hurt and other people say this several times a night of these kids are angry and more so the key is that we worked with we see that they don't smile very much and we tried to get these kids to learn how to let me be an

unlevel properly for the right reasons but i think as we begin a privilege keeping the system more accountable and programs more accountable government more colleges say an avenue to make a difference in the lives of children and a lot of our communities probably one of the hottest concepts of people are talking about around the country for those kids who are already in trouble is after care or you were the government or social service agencies appoint sort of an advocate for a small group of kids not eighty or ninety kids is a lot of probation officers like the ones that are sitting next to me a handle but a small group of twelve or maybe less than twenty kids cost running from forty thousand dollars a year per kid fairly steep versus a hundred thousand dollars to incarcerate that child later life some people think that's a bargain when you think about that concept of having an advocate that tries to keep that kid in school and get him back on track many years ago we had a volunteer program was called entre supervision and we matched one on one in a kind of disappear well as within the department but i

do believe that in the concert that they need a role model they need someone to look up to what i've been hearing much as young men from its said that he made a decision to quote what he was doing and a person cannot be held unless he wants to be helped let's visit chad's not the norm is the unintelligible shook him up and what about eight days which a delicate situation where three months but you also said you you again or scrape when you brought a gun the score i fall in the great days but they let me out because that obama paperwork concern that all it was they just let me other bumper and pecan but three weeks later they communicate so three months in the starship you up is that the normal is there to do the most kids get straightened up a three month semester well we're going to lose their work would come with juvenile department that we have seen cases where children do come into the detention center and sometimes it's an eye opener it's a controlled environment that they're not

used to in the hole and some time to make some changes and sometimes they don't one of the things i do want to emphasize that we don't write the laws i wish we could like joyce losing her her young man and the system failing in a way we don't we don't like the laws are the early a situation where we could help more a wish for good guillermo at woman palin was it all men and all of you tell me to the ideal word identity very honest like you all the talk about less build more prisons less less by the way do you know what some of these guys a debt that that's what they need i get real worried about that no best meter by the zumwalt crazy anyway i'm always taken up for the poor people you know probably i'll be put away for like i don't know it just seems to me that we ought to be concentrating instead of on the incarceration in the us and a harsh punishment and a concert on sunday's vote was about hearing about wishing for too few for me an end and certainly under funded from a lichen and say am i am i right about that this is far too few programs in all of our programs go

back i think is tim james says too real earlier programs and they're very categorical in nature and for the most part we don't have any categorical families a categorical children at winning by then we'll have is a program for school dropout but if you think you put together a young person like we have an audience that's dropped out of school that's a teen mom and i that past we could use drugs they would have to go to three maybe four different programs and being we will have to deal with as this young man say about the paperwork is can get lost between the system is not gonna fall at school fall between the cracks agencies are going to deal with her of course is not enough money to go around and who has a jack wood we're about is trying to bring all those programs together under one roof in hand and talk to one another and have them to communicate so that one person has become a one stop shopping edition would say

but the ability to coming in yellow variety of different services so that we cannot only excess that young person family where we can look at that that the least restrictive amount of services for their young person to put them on the right track in syria say they made a mistake they are totally bare less lock him up joe's had a lot of experience with working within the system and working with programs as mrs martinez this is juanita martinez from fort worth has been doing this for forty years but the system hasn't been the easiest to deal with for you in in terms of just working with students and working with youngsters what if you found the system and how's it been working with the kids that you work with well you can't totally blind since i firmly believe that it starts at home i know i raised eleven children i'm raising two

grandsons right now i've got it bad at kids that i work with on the daily basis the problem here he asked that we have a lot of your wake hits and serious kids that nobody wants not even the parents the parents will say well you know just go on you know i haven't pattinson or officer on notice about this officer room when i work together the neighbor across the street told me one day when this base on a walk up wake up walk out and i'm gone and i thought like you know she looks like she's such a nice reason you know she looks like she didn't really care for her kids one morning they woke up and she was gone everything was competent to laying on a blanket good i've got a lot of kids to come to my home they sleep there they eat their this our kids better gains that that nobody wants and how do you increase their self esteem it must be terrible for these kids to

know other throwaway kid that their parents don't want than that nobody wants them how do you intervene at that point say you have value have worth i love them but the man to run the monotone my love them it doesn't matter how big and tough but you are i make sure every day that i find out if they're in school if they're not in school i don't want to get bogged down with a lot of paperwork because then that would take time from my kids i bet kids in my home every day every day even on my head spins and my husband max fortieth wedding anniversary they were peeking through the windows so what do we do we open the door letting me and now and even doing a great job and forth a long time and not appreciate in a fight with a white jacket say but but but the church to the main character's job in your church are you you've done so the men and possibly young men involved your church is

been so the exception i think that but it is a charge for us and that it was a black church i don't think the church is meeting the challenge as well as aggressively as it should i think part of my responsibility is really to incite not only my membership but the community at large to number one cd the value of each and every one of these individual chile that they're not for away children and the number two would have to begin to work aggressively that means working with people like jerry strickland working with people like judge i was working with a campfire boys and girls and making sure that the people who come to the church which is for many is certainly the african american community the bedrock foundation making the church the place where they get angry and incensed about the condition that that we find ourselves in and then moving from that anger interaction end and developing programs ourselves we had a program at new hope last year called summer of hope and then the real intent was along with being a traditional summer camp kind of endeavor but to continually just put positive images and positive messages in

front of very young children hope that i guess you know it's a bad analogy but i shot that affect that somehow that would in some ways settled into some of those kids and that would begin the process for them to see their own value and then to hopefully have some hope in their lives this video of bing incensed you're having passion about this subject whether subject that i know you best architect have a lot of passion about is the downward influence of the culture of tv of rap music hip pop music etc that that demeans the value of women that demeans the value of human life tell us a little bit about that and and balance that with the pressure that the parents face from that from that culture will absolutely think that the effort most ardent feminist or in the home but there are cultural images and messages that that our children receive day in and day out and i like to call them pseudo culture because leaving the cheapening of human life the

degrading of women be the true realization of violent these are all messages that young people see and here and they're made to think that somehow this represents the reality of their their cultural fabric and while many of our kids are angry about the posturing be the that the gangsta reason is not really gets its a marketing endeavor by record companies buy whoever it might be negative rap artist and our job is to say to young people that's not the essence of who you are that's fletcher culture your culture where the be black white hispanic whatever is one that bore out of respect one was born out of mutual concern and care for one another so our job was to overwhelm the message that comes across a music videos cds and wherever scott you're someone who has grown up on all that and now you're a father of three young children under the age of the raid what are you hearing from all of these comments and some of the changes that could have happened in your own life that might have made things easier for you how you can make it easier for your kids to survive because basically we're just aren't good luck that contractors because

my kids so a bit of a role model a film his get to sunday's to where you know the parents could do so much for them they can teaching to the best of their own abilities but when they get old enough to know that no right wrong old enough they can do you know what they do or had your life get off track along the trilogy that is a star and author of crowd quit school start working the house now fourteen do the whole time and went out to stick with me through to contain the marijuana did she was always there and that they should not coming out that to go back to school and had known the right track and try to be a positive role model for my shoes is this something that you have to think about every day about doing something for your kids is that what's really motivating you now at this point or is it just really just decided you i take responsibility for yourself what is that as you've learned at the academy for example it's really turned you around

for your kid and it was possible for myself and for my kids also i've had to change quite a few things but i mean it's all for the better game in trouble is not is now about that is what does know better film world than phil liggett take composting which he always been talk about noon just actually go out and do this is a sin then talk about it yeah yeah ms martinez mentioned a moment ago officer i are romo reports the police department i want to go to you for a second you know if you look at the statistics at the crime statistics that have come across the border over the last ten or twenty years juvenile crime really isn't up that much but you know violence is up fifty percent just since nineteen eighty seven the murder rate is up eighty five percent is it really that kids are more violent more criminal or is it just that they have better technology they have guns where they used to maybe use their fists or switchblades but they so they were

both you know it's interesting you say with in the last twenty years i've been a police officer for eighteen years ago what all ban on everyone in the audience has talked about i've seen it firsthand you know have to deal with it the gangs and everything in its interesting someday some the things it would do an in and forth with a kit code blue program india becoming a program without the boy's club try that to interact with these other young people i don't know that there's not time to the gangs and it's interesting because as i have as a law enforcement officer they've always see me is is one is always been someone to jail or taken on this moon is an alice in their simply saucers without their uniforms getting in there and interacting with these young people that animal hey we want the same thing that you guys want we want happiness willoughby have to have peace and enjoy our families do things and you want it or we start to cds with a lot of these young people and an alarm are air if it is sad because you see a lot of throwaway

kids out there in an hour as you said part of it is high tech a cd out in the media a little bit of what they read what they enter music in a bit of everything and and it's it's just a wide range of it another problem the coming up programme image was actually very controversial in the first hour talking about a talk about hiring ex gang members or existing gang members who had criminal records how is that that except about a curious how's it work it's coming out very good it's interesting because all hell are people that talk to me and when i referred to them because colbert to come on the program we start to see some enroll and it's amazing because this is a program that's in its infancy and at first any time you get a new program has always been the controversy everything and it's gonna take a while to get this and perceive him at the boys club had been here for a long time i was a product that was quote myself and we seemed a bit in there for a long period of time and with just a low success a lot of effort and a lot of luck people are other

organizations giving in to get involved it's going to take everyone is and it begins at the home officer to someone else who's been at the front lines but this time carey elementary school and we have a cowbell line with us who is a teacher there and has worked on some innovative programs that have seem to be working again at that middle school level when you see this working in your particular school can maintain that works in any school not just scary middle school is sensitivity as we've heard since it's at i believe this is the main core to changing our kids people aren't violent and they're not criminal i really don't believe as a human being that we are set out to be that way we become that way maybe some kids do it because of the reason as the doctor pointed out here anymore problem that we do have that kerry is a key us go clinic and it is a model clinic where the teacher refers to students and they go in they talked to psychiatry is and they have therapy be family therapy in merrill therapy individual therapy even medications we

had the champs programmer actually it becomes a group of positive negative revision the school that worked to better the community there so many so many programs that we have at our school and each individual child has to find which program they like which they can become a part of but i just think that you need to be sensitive to the children's needs and as a teacher i believe that similar what happened we put on every day since kennedy in a teacher has spawned so many hats every day and that is number one halftime believe our people should wear his sensitivity and the minnesota we are woven deserves very briefly here what else needs to be done with justin grey programs that we see that are working so we know about totally doing weird diseases and save lives of people on the road to destroy chin and nyu with the senate with the intervention what else needs to be done wonders of city the county the state what i think what god is mr haney

cousins googling i see our children and downs for here the child in for the asking everyone to do one more thing for a child and say you can call him volunteer in one of our programs get a real swell season as the currency doesn't listen the helping professions have our jobs cut out for us gained during the stories that we heard from young people tonight and what that does for me partially is it causes me to become even more committed to what i'm doing at my school and with his genius and i work with him just to make sure that we don't make a move without including young people in the decision making we tend to have too many questions about the solutions rather without asking the right question we need to go young people in the solution process archer's i think only for being jeremy really taught the south and we got to stay on the spot on this all the time we have right now again if you want to help out with one of the program's talked about here

tonight or if you need upper so often call these numbers in dallas county call area code two one four seven for seven three seven one one and turned chemical eerie code eight one seven eight seven eight oh one or older and remember if we don't want it is to give up on us we have not to give up on our kids so offer rob region and all of us thank you for joining us and good night ha ha ha

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