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is ho all his life moy says robust cherished his independence but at an illness robbed him of his dignity robo spent his last ten years in nursing homes his daughter in law and tony rowe plus watched him grow more helpless and confused they go set on someone's bed by mistake because by then immediately that nowhere was that mean it up about two ways science at that as chris who's kids are you in the times he remembers and that we've fought for him because they had no one wrote this is frail body had been through so much including alleged abuse at an oklahoma nursing home that his family promise not to one bomber was when he died the past thirteen january twentieth nineteen eighty nine at a dallas nursing home girl this is called a funeral home run by deadly and he used to pick up the

body it's a call they may regret the rest of their lives funeral director larry silva was on call that night world has died was it left early written notations that but it was not him bond it wasn't in bunkers at an environment which is no indication that we did not have permission cause on partial license mr mitch mcconnell but self learned rosen's body went to our mortuary school he had become a class project for four students mr rove this was taken to the dialysis to fail service where they were permitted to embalm his body all i know is a toast him and he couldn't defend his staff we know that is so we couldn't go in the family robles was cremated at this doused in the tory january twenty fifth his family paid more than five hundred dollars for a casket which should have been burned along with the body in the cremation but

larry silva about it for sale again at a different deadly him his funeral home that jesus was what i thought hey shouldn't have telling cindy thank you do is golf and tell me that mistake and give the money back given my back for what they paid for that inner city hanna says forcing embalming and be honest with them and tone that to that announced it was my body was among them theyre not being charged for he's didn't tell the robots is an anonymous caller did three months later today deadly hughes jr denies that he intentionally did anything wrong there was some misunderstanding our company perform the services provided the merchandise that the rebels family's request and there was another entity

dead and the noise to me him on the body which was the end do you know that i wouldn't and then they did not tell the fat robles family about their fears in mortuary school where the wind was for long was responsible well they are the ones that we were never they were the ones that did the embalming service and our company had nothing to do with the embalming of the body but an investigation by the texas funeral services commission contradicts use investigators found that a huge funeral director called the school to take world with his body form bombing will take whatever share of our responsibilities and that matter but our company did not him on the body we thought we'd end the people that have been that were involved in that

situation in order of what the company we think we've taken corrective answer action this force that is concerned hughes fire david cox the funeral director assigned to the ramos family the jt spears state investigators say call the mortuary school to pick up the body is still working for humans or spears is you his brother in law in september nineteen eighty nine the commission found hughes spears and cogs in violation of state and commission regulations prohibit it and dishonest conduct or gross negligence in the practice of embalming and failure to provide customers with a price information and then i owe my statement all three were found guilty of conduct which is willful flagrant or shameless or which shows all moral indifference to standards of the community the three received fines totaling thirteen thousand dollars and license suspensions but hughes has avoided punishment through court appeals and frequent changes of attorney says such a force delays his license was

suspended before he filed his appeal in november nineteen eighty nine but he kept doing business the funeral commission found out and filed its own complaint against him larry ferro is executive director of the funeral services commission like doing was just did not want to cooperate did not feel that it was a really apply to him and continue his operation is to solve it i'm very wary of nineteen eighty nine the federal trade commission finds use of record eighty thousand dollars or thirty nine hundred violations committed over a three year period he used disputes the allegations well that's a bureaucratic mess this way that is the federal people fly that they needed somebody to to read and to over regulate it in a form and manner so that they could pay the procedures apart but i think that that we have that we have to do so now regulators

be sustained i believe that's true and the rest of the state i think i think that diane belief in our director in the country that his head to try and of and reasonable regulation put a ball made by the state and the federal regulators yes i do merrill deal morgan is the federal trade commission lawyer handling the hughes case i can't fathom why he did not comply in fact the kind that continued after the initiation of our investigation a pentagon was warren right after he knew that the at as he was looking at an assailant was there a role to be complied with other than his vow to conduct when i'm asleep the federal trade commission does not have the authority to put he's out of business that x's funeral services commission

does but hasn't it's not my job to determine you know what what i think about state enforcement that certainly and i think people have to look at the facts and determine that for themselves and <unk> uses still doing business and that's all i can i can say i want him to pay but justice cause far buddy and it was he broke the law and the rules unfair advantage the robinsons wanted the commission to investigate an attempt at a cover up of the embalming that included forged documents we never easy that authorization for embalming in the world medical devices and who is a good service i've been writing you know some years old now whenever saddam we didn't even know there was a mortuary school in our family so i'm not just a moment to name the names

also this is toby robeson's signature and this is the signature that appeared on the embalming authorization form this document showed up after the state began its investigation we didn't fail that the signatures matched those are always testify that sanctions it didn't that it we've had some approve of a criminal action that we've had tied to someone we would've gone to the district attorney's office and the dallas area and turn it over to them we're done then the passengers cases it we find criminal activity will refer to the proper exit so a forgery is not a commodity in this case we don't know who forced to doctor often the duck but we don't have any proof at that point state representative lyn i get at austin says the state funeral commission would be tougher if it were not dominated by commissioners who work in the funeral business well there are certain cases that have come to the board on complaints from consumers about how they were treated by a particular

funeral home and a funeral home directors on in a majority are against the consumers on the board ended up in a five four vote now basically in favor of the funeral home i may be doing at any easy slap of them say no no don't do that again and we think they need to be tougher out with people who who deceive consumers it's been used three funeral homes are in low income or minority neighborhoods then i get a dose says at the poor often become the victims of dishonesty mom and practices it was pretty much declared to me that indigent people people who don't have much money we don't have very much education who i don't have as much understanding about what is going on iraq or more emotionally involved as a family about what what has occurred are are are really the kind of people what kind of consumers who are armed who are used in the symbolic experience

in june the federal trade commission completed a staff reporter the three year old survey of funeral practices it found that only one third of the nation's funeral directors were in compliance with federal funeral laws a review on the state level revealed the demand for bodies of mortuary schools encourages deception they use of schools in the embalming process without notification the consumer is not bad but it is legal for funeral homes to secretly like mortuary school students perform in bombing i know when i walk into a beauty school that i'm being that my hair is being done by someone who was in training but if i go funeral home and they send the body to be in bomb by a student and i don't know that that's not really fair maybe but this kind of relationship is based on mutual need in return for providing fresh bodies for students to practice on at the dallas institute a funeral services deadly hughes received embalming

services and storage facilities for free the robots case and of that arrangement slowly doors maybe closing on his the funeral commission refused to postpone an august hearing when he showed up with lawyers and prepared to defend him the commissioners revoke uses license he'd be out of business if they have the last say they don't use is homs will stay open while his case is under appeal and a travis county state district court but hughes has problems on another front in november nineteen eighty nine he was filed for chapter eleven bankruptcy which allows him to hold off creditors until he is able to pay them the roses have filed what may be a futile lawsuit against jews and they still struggle with their grief yet been mistreated and i know about his goal here when they're dead although they don't look ahead taking away every writer

he ever had as a human being that even in debt and he had not given his elves say about what i wanted and i didn't forget it and i doubt want journalism i get out of iowa we'll be able to and just as words i know that this has been a very much of a troubling situation to the rose family is headed responsibility for the plot i don't know whether they are troubled you know completely anonymous here rector i'm not a counselor msnbc the pay to

pay with an hr for me loose last year almost four million people a corner and just over two million people died leading the world can be even more expensive than entering today an average funeral costs over three thousand dollars not including a cemetery plot or headstone last year

americans spent nearly six billion dollars in funeral services but some people like san antonio dentist dr james raven which is the industry of manipulating consumers into spending more than they need to really was a funeral director for twenty four years before he quit i just i really realize that there were a lot of people who are coming through the front doors of the concerns that i was working for who we're asking for very simple fuels and when i was complying with their wishes i was being taken aside by the owners of the funeral home and told myself never it was an honor most people know very little about the funeral business and critics say the industry likes it that way the texas association of funeral directors prohibits the public and the media from attending industry exhibits i can imagine a

situation in your time constraint they're not educated about the purchaser to making changes are you never done it before you simply walk into a situation called and you're basically at the mercy of whoever it is that you do the situation is confusing prices vary a great deal among humans are the least expensive casket offered at one of those three hundred and twenty dollars lease expensive at another was eight hundred and nineties you know hums charge compulsory administrative things which also vary depending on the whole we found fees ranging from two hundred and seventy five to seven hundred and ninety five dollars five years ago the federal trade commission forced into homes to provide itemize priceless to consumers before discussing any financial arrangements the main thing the role was intended to do was to make sure that consumers were forced to purchase goods and services that they didn't do you want and before the rule took effect there was what we call a bungling of services for instance a funeral home might offer of one

package or two different packages the funeral rule is not doesn't regulate price that's not the intent the point of the rule is to make sure that consumers know the various goods and services that they have to choose from and that there may be some real expensive ones they can choose from but they're also less expensive alternatives figures them a choice dallas funeral director levey garcia says that the rule has forced you know hans to charge the things they used to give away he also says that the rule as insensitive and blind to cultural differences the hispanics for example our very very very traditional type of families in austria find the blacks as well and the asians as opposed to leading us a anglo culture if i were like that if i were to have a family come into my office to make arrangements and the first thing i do is slapped them with a gentle priceless and because the government tells me that i have to explain to them everything that i provide if i start talking to us hispanic family and buy

cremation it's almost an insult and somewhat like they would be want to walk out of my office because how dare would i even think that they would even want to cremate their mother or their loved one cremation is a less expensive alternative to burial the critics say cremation cost prove that the industry's profit margins too hot crematoria charge funeral homes about one hundred and twenty five dollars by funeral homes charge consumers five hundred to one thousand dollars of course to get the chores for my fees and for my time for my talent you know it is a business at this stuff about yesterday paid a crematorium and thirty five dollars and that it doesn't end there i still got forms to file employees this into the bureau i mean i there's a lot of things people think that the philippines at that at the feet at at the internet i mean i got for us this is beginning and my profession

the pianist on you you will be the law says that will be very unique garcia teaches a sociology class for aspiring funeral directors at the dallas institute a funeral service the school is affiliated with an embalming chemical company and critics say that students are taught and then influenced their customers to believe that a funeral is not a funeral unless the body is involved the main reason for obama bodies merchandise if you don't have an embalmed body you don't have any reason to sell caskets vaults all those other things so did a flowing stream bombing is a major factor there is no public health significance to vomit in their family would say don't bomb of the funeral said another there's a monday and simo saturday they'll walk about in the next year gregory spencer is a forward funeral director saying about it helps you psychologically deal with

the dead spencer is expanding his business into a half million dollar facility funded by a loan from houston back and when i got my first rate wagon that would mark herz and ideology is a neighborhood woman played piano will remain to get a light on a planet a bicycle so they could be in the procession never did i think i would do is at thirty three lives and now the world is higher quality file of the philippines and winds of eighty four thousand dollars and have no further violence no comparable job none of the images that we're now familiar with the girls some blacks they won't serve the funeral business is becoming

increasingly driven by the demand for greater choice ftc rule requiring itemize prices have helped open the door for entrepreneurs like david fincher condoms thousand colors fisher cells caskets and other items directly to the public and rates he says or forty percent below the funeral home prices this festival right here white interior some guesses combo and some crumbs that this casket has oh i bet that isn't just built up and now it has a larger portion of the need to have more spies that they can be let down smaller portion north of the numbers so far down in the casket it can be raised up far cry this insurgent it and also has a tracking mechanism in the foot because the list that they were going there i think although neither players dyson at reaching his wife bodies to become part of another funeral industry trend you cannot have to guide me here a

moral guardians when representative marty parker has dropped by to help the reid's plan their own funerals his piece and thanks to support whoever the senate has moved it is also we doing it under stress like that you will you go overboard mean you spend way too much money and what the best way three of us get what we didn't know what to do in the past eleven that took advantage of the situation i still do you know moms are locking in business these days by marketing choice to the public it's customers choose and pay for their funerals in advance freezing the cost at today's prices so then like years maybe describing to me as what i might call more of a regular traditional thai general service

health care i'm at our funeral home our service fee is actually a tv and that again is the standard charge for a traditional type funeral service of vault is also an outer enclosure similar to what the concrete brave weiner is how ever it is sealed and it is steel reinforced with lipton with nice morgue but have complained that of concrete boxes of things that he had this particular casket is our least expensive cast and that is what we call a gray off covered would here's what the race chose for each service a traditional funeral service including a bombing in visitation for eighteen hundred and eighty dollars a

casket for two thousand and seventeen great liner for three hundred and sixty flowers for two hundred and seventy five thank you cards for ten and memory book for twenty i come up with a total of forty five thirty one the total cost to the reeds for both services was nine thousand one hundred and twenty four dollars many of the new trends in the funeral industry encourage people to become more personally involved with funeral arrangements but few in the industry believe that the public's need for a funeral services will ever disappear remember where they were people who had a few years and tensions people who have them mr kuril imaginations about what happens when people die and whether the mother's was a sober that you let them and gung ho lee say we'll have about

for seth you are the pieces medical science has given us the ability to fight back but even with impressive technological powers on the side of the living sometimes

that prevails it is rarely welcome but life can flow from there it finished on a saturday morning in july game of positions and support personnel at baylor medical center in dallas ready to record a series of organ transplants a car accident the heart lungs livers the accident victim was prepared an operating room of a free of it is connected to the heart bypass machine which takes over the functions of her heart thank you scott soon after recording several gene

gilliard is wielded operating room number five is will be the first lung transplant ethics reform because that's been the nineteen sixties but because no woman who suffered two heart attacks only the week before it's brought in the operating room number to transplant positions what may be a coming from seizures on the southwest border than the organ bank works with hospitals and retrieving and transplant in addition to insisting donor family meanwhile the

transplant team makes progress on the donor surgery has burst all the pluto the polls to pick the man to receive that there has been brought to the floor of operating rooms sixty one year old jim heart rates to begin his surgery in a lawman who is the cause of these guys in here is very very ill haitian officials unveiled or i'm so grateful for dierks bentley in korea and in japan they don't have the people of tennessee and the vehicle for

what will inevitably people opponents bit because if they get the right kind of take that a little more than an hour after the procedure begins the donor heart and lungs come into full view the work begins to stop the heart from heating and cooling down the icy slush is poured into the chest cavity doctors were patiently until the heart is get to a temperature of ten degrees intensity in the operating room the moment years ago the heart and lungs to be removed with no fanfare organs are listed in this is

the saudis have to be awfully hard for the heart only one man is salvageable unfortunately the ones you really it needs the most was damaged in a car accident doctors decide to use that good anyway the tracks black teens attacked three and then much more quickly using careful precise mix the heart transplant team worked to separate the heart and mind it takes the surgeons fifteen minutes to accomplish their goals while another team of surgeons that he's doing it for his lost faith at

the door of his audiences on them in his last run down the hall is to be operating are part of an issue he's cheating heart is now ready for the trend let's go so what to do as the transplants get underway

the body of an eighteen year old wasn't wearing a seatbelt the night before has been stitched clothes the routine conclusion to a procedure that was anything but routine this july day three lives have been prolonged thanks to a single donor later in the weekend when they don't his kidneys are transplanted the life count will rise to five it's been grossly unfair is both a patient reading tim carney understand all too well the concept of brain death they learned it the hard way and february of nineteen eighty seven there sun paul was murdered after lying in a coma at baylor hospital for twelve days doctors told paul stanley he was brain dead were anticipating twenty twelve days the overwhelming probability of his death and therefore we didn't have time to give consideration inner depths of your own feelings mind to a

question of possible transplant and saving if somebody else's life in the death of our sample and the two people's lives were states basically one with a liver transplant the other with a heart transplant and we were a happy that that was the case set very sad about the death of marcel but very happy that somebody flight to people's lives could be saved and that's the death of my son there have been consulted on that he would have said yes hunter and i've got all kinds of responses and my fifteen years of doing this from your family member saying that if i touched their relative that would come after me with a gun jewel wife saying that though she was in a process of getting divorced and he was a good one he was arose and so i could take anything now on an english couldn't tell us and that's the range of responses that get and i've had to do things such as go down to the courthouse here in dallas and get the permission from other five who had beaten her two year

old to death to give me the organs even though she indignantly that she was the only next of kin so that it gave her permission to retrieve bjorn brain death is a difficult concept for even medical professionals sometimes to deal with the cans you know down through the ages cardiac death is what we've all become accustomed to the body becomes called there's no signs of life as we know it the heart stopped beating well right at that step as well that there's this the typical signs that world news tonight there i have a strong belief that the gift makes a difference both to the giver and the receiver and that it that it helps us keep ourselves in perspective and i would hate to see the day and i hope that it doesn't happen that there we get into the mentality of this is a requirement or this is just a given because then i think we are are playing god

or at best move whoa he came to pittsburgh medical science is given us the ability to fight and even with impressive technological how is on the side of the living sometimes death prevails it is rarely welcome

but life as a seth on a saturday morning in july a team of physicians and support personnel at baylor medical center in dallas readies to perform a series of organ transplants the parents of eighteen year old car accident victim have granted permission to donate their daughter's heart lungs liver and kidneys within the next seven hours to a man and a woman who had been waiting a plaintiff will receive those organs and a new lease on life the accident victim has prepared an operating room number three her body is connected to a heart bypass machine which takes over the functions of her heart pumping the new vigilante outer body that there's cut through her stardom to get to the vital organ is soon afterward forty seven year old jean gilliard is wheeled in the operating room number five is will be the first lung transplant ever performed in dallas

and he's been seen no thirty four year old woman who suffered two heart attacks only the week before it's broadened operating remember to transplant positions toward make the upcoming procedures but members of the southwest organ bank at the organ bank works with hospitals and retrieving entranced by militants in addition to existing donor family meanwhile the transplant team makes progress on the donor surgery saw the

plume going to pull the man to receive that liver has been brought to the floor of operating rooms sixty one new ocean park waits began his surgery in a war now both good guys we're the police boats bailiff b oh i'm so grateful at a podium to japan they don't have these little fantasy and they're more fearful of addictive book on earth they think if they get the right kind of an effect

a little more than an hour after the procedure begins the donor heart and lungs come into full view the war against stop the heart from heating and cooling down the icy slush is poured into the chest cavity patiently until the heart has to a temperature of ten degrees and operations the intensity in the art waiting room says the momentum years provoked a harsh and laughed at the move together with no fanfare the organs are lifted into a new vice we're out was out of the operating down the hall a little harder

line of essentially only one lung is salvageable unfortunately that one gene gilliard needs the most was damaged in a car accident doctors decide to use that anyway the transplant teams task is tedious and they must and using careful precise mix the heart transplant team wants to separate the heart and lungs it takes the surgeons fifteen minutes to accomplish their goal while another group of surgeons readies gilliard for his last few weeks again

dr oversaw doses on the moon this last run down the hallways to the operating room where the heart attack rates for the healthy part of the meeting as bill to pass by but donna hart is now ready to be transplanted into the way to the city next door the donors liver has been removed so have arguments which are measured unprepared for transplantation as the transplants get underway big donors surgery has been completed the body of an eighteen year old who wasn't wearing a seatbelt the night or stitched clothes drooping conclusion to a procedure that was anything but routine this july day three lives have been prolonged thanks to a single donor later in the weekend when the dumb his kidneys were transplanted the life count will rise to

five i was there when the doctor told the family patient's condition and broached the subject of organ donation dr chaplain gal luft it's this was not a situation where the donor had talked about this at all but the family felt like it was a good thing they did they felt like they could help a lot of people by doing this and so they agreed to donate organs but the number of families who choose not to donate far outnumber is those who do across the country over twenty thousand people play for organs families often choose not to donate because of the misunderstanding and confusion associated with reindeer many people do not realize that in order to donate organs a person must be the victim of a severe enough head injury to be declared brain dead brain death is a difficult concept for even medical professionals sometimes to deal with the

cans you know detonate his cardiac death is what we've all the contest into the body becomes called there's no signs of life as we know it the heart stopped beating well right after staffers wow that there's this the typical signs that world news tonight there their relative looks alive today and he's lying in a bed warm there with a heart monitor showing a heartbeat and it's very difficult for them to understand the concept of mind was grossly unfair that he should tie reading tim carney understand all too well the concept of brain death they learned it the hard way in february of nineteen eighty seven there sun paul was murdered after lying in a coma and baylor hospital for twelve days doctors told paul stanley he was brain dead were anticipating twenty twelve days the overwhelming probability of his death and therefore we didn't have time to get

consideration in our depths of our own feelings in mind to the question of possible transplant saving of somebody else's life in the death of our sample and the two people's lives were saved basically one with a liver transplant the other with a heart transplant and we were a happy that that was the case said very sad about the death of our sight but very happy that somebody like to people's lives could be saved and just have that sound and so he would have said yes hunter the reasons people say no to organ donation very few people have actually thought about their own parents and don't plan for family members often haven't discussed their wishes about organ donation ahead of time at a time of crisis the decision can

lead to dramatic difficult it is if a family has an assumption that this means the organ donation intend to cut out and then we have to work and finding ways to help them understand know this is this is treated just as if it would be a surgery and you're going to be leaving the hospital the next day it gets done with a great deal of care and i don't respect i've got all kinds of responses and my fifteen years of doing this from your family member saying that if i touched their relative that would come after me with a gun to a wife saying that that issue is the prices are getting divorced he was a good one he was aroused and so i could take anything now won in a way she couldn't care less and that's the range of responses that get and i've had to do things such as go down to the courthouse here in dallas and get the permission from other five who had beaten her two year old to death to give me the organs even though she indignantly that she was the only next of kin so that i get her permission to

retrieve bjorn is a key link in the organ donation process takes place long before any surgical procedure critical care medical personnel and chaplains must be sensitive as they approach families about the possibility of organ donation we're here to save and help heal and so when somebody is dying to fit the staff are really struggle with how best to approach and how best to support the family and the staff that are doing the best of the ones who are trained and worked more with data some in the medical community believe organ donation should become mandatory but that's an ethical dilemma with many faces there should be a law in this country like yours and many countries in europe that want your relative is pronounced brain dead that you should not be given the option of donating your senate should become a law you should have to donate these organs not realistic to believe that i know that'll never happen in this country because of the lawyers that are waiting in the wings to sue everybody more years

however wouldn't present the only possible voices of dissent how strong a wave that the gift makes a difference both to the giver and the receiver and that it that it helps us keep ourselves in perspective and i would hate to see the day and i hope that it doesn't happen that that we get into the mentality of this is a requirement or this is just a given because then i think we are all playing god so good at a similar plan on is let me though when the mormon moment tomorrow lot about that and now is not to really doing great it's been nearly forty years since the first kidney transplant in the united states a transplant so much more commonplace now but not everyone who needs a transplant can get one because of a critical shortage of organs transplant professionals are often put in the position of deciding who lives and who dies

transplant centers and hospitals all across the country hold weekly evaluation meetings to determine which patients qualify medically for transplants during this meeting at baylor hospital positions and social workers discuss the case of a fifty four year old woman she would prefer another method of treatment if at all possible right now as you want great as baylor is transplant unit doctors aren't like mom emphasizes that the committee's decision is based solely on medical reasons social status and financial status did not come into play well financial statisticians

considered by the medical evaluation team a potential candidate must be able to pay for the transplant procedure in order to be entered on a nationwide computerized waiting let's the computer i've never thought of a totally unregulated facets of determining who gets a transplant it is run by the united network for organ sharing or you know it's a nonprofit that really contracted agencies it's in june alone several candidates accepted by baylor is transplant evaluation committee were turned down by the hospital's financial department because they had no insurance and no of their ability to play though they were medically eligible they could not be listed on the computer you think everybody needs an organ has an equal fair shot at getting no there is not a fair shot yesterday believe the page and many times they have insurance that pays but if you need a heart transplant or a liver transplant and you have no insurance and you don't have the down payment you don't get your and i don't feel that's right i think that all patients in this country should

be afforded the equal opportunity to obtain or that if they needed when you look act an institution that perhaps there's you know two hundred transplants a year and it's not a therapy that the hospital can absorb the costs an unstable and weeks less than three weeks after receiving the liver from the eighteen year old honor ed failor sham part is enjoying his daily strolls on the fourteenth floor with his wife theresa so there's like america to earth and then there's lots of names because they are very few like looking around watching tv through reading books it's like a ordinary times that to someone else and they were in his fifth cannot think if things like

america the baylor university physics professor suffered from liver cancer and other party had been told the transplant was his only option all you mr pitt and i'll leave it at that young lady and demons to create and i jumped into my some of my students who owe him up to see now within eighteen years old they're really like and obviously the contents of my life and someone's going to be trade also had a liver transplant a month afterward he was still emotional without the transplant the washington dc composer would probably have been dead by the time we interviewed him in spite of his critical need for transplant he had some fears when we first came down the coalition forces with the

people and support some terms with their roots in some very encouraging to see why people threw what would you say to a family in a position to have to consider whether to donate organs role in the midst of reporting there's nothing more wonderful that they could do them to give somebody else to give an immensely grateful i believe in protecting their privacy had no commitment in the importance of a person in

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