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Hello, Mrs. Reagan. Hello, Don. You still don't like me, do you? I like you very much, Don. Oh, good. Sir, here's your schedule for the afternoon. You'll do a photo opportunity with the split fence posts. Oh, they're stacking them up like I told you. Oh, yes, sir. Crossways. Oh, good. There's those founders in the pressure just looking for some clue that I don't really split those fence posts. Yes, sir. The San Donaldson would just love to get his hands on that. Don't worry, sir. Then that pretty good way to spend the weekend, isn't it, Don? It's a hell out of stewing in your own juice at the Treasury Office, doesn't it? Yes, it does, sir. At approximately 345, you'll be foaming the winner of the Andy Williams San Diego Open.

If it goes sudden death, we'll cancel our call unless the network continues full coverage. Otherwise, you'd be on the phone with Lanny Watkins, while two-thirds of the country is watching punky Brewster. All right. Sounds good. Thank you, Don. No problem. Oh, and here's today's summary of the press digest. Just some editorials grumbling about pointing Pat Buchanan director of communications. It'll blow over. See you in a while. Goodbye, Mrs. Reagan. He's a nice fellow. A little stiff. Why would he say goodbye when he's just going inside? He's a very dangerous man. That's why. Oh, mommy, you know I... President, porch. Hello, Mr. President. And?

How's it going, big fella? You ever pay off that loan? Mr. President, I'm getting worried. How soon can we get the swearing-in thing going? Oh, and the worst is behind you. Your long national nightmare is over. You're going to be a turnie, General. Don't worry. Well, I know you're right, sir, but... Well, of course, I... First of all, it keeps having this nightmare, where I'm just about to go into the Supreme Court. The chair of the officers come and drag me back to my house in California. They keep chanting, refinance, refinance. It's awful. Well, there are worse places to be right now than California. It must be 80 out here. But you tell Ursula she's got nothing to worry about, nothing at all. The attorney general never goes near the Supreme Court. All right, sir. Thank you.

You'll be sworn in as soon as you're confirmed. It's on the fast track. Is it? Isn't it? Meanwhile, later that afternoon, the president is on the front lawn, rehearsing an impromptu press conference beside the White House helicopter. With him is his newly trusted aide, Don. No, we won't know anything about that until we get a response from the Soviets. Could you try that again, sir? What? Could you try that again? I could almost make out every word. All right, you know Mike never made me rehearse this more than twice. This is the second term, sir. This one's for the history box. What? Just do this one for me. Okay, no, we won't know anything about that.

But don't call for the president. Secure line, Adam, Charlie, Bravo, Charlie, Charlie, Bravo, Adam. Hmm, line one. That's top security. Could you kill the chopper? Here you go, sir. Thanks, Don. Hello. I've been watching the stockman stuff. Nice job of putting the loose cannon right on the bridge. Jim. Hello, Mr. President. How things been going? I can't lie to you, Jim. I can't believe this stockman, Jim. It's not only that he shoots his mouth off and the most god-awful way possible, but that haircut was he trained to prove with that, Jim. I wouldn't know, sir. I just wouldn't know. I just call to make sure everything's going okay, you know, with Don and all.

Jim, Nancy doesn't like Don. Well, she never liked me. Well, that's what I mean. Things are going fine. Are they? Aren't they? Is it really lonely at the top or merely a lot less crowded? Next time, rehearsing for the flight home on Hellcats of a White House. The Right Honourable Lady says now and she has said to me before that she was not involved in the decision to prosecute.

Frankly, Mr. Speaker, I have to say that I do not believe the Right Honourable Lady. I told the Right Honourable Gentleman and I must ask him explicitly to accept what I said. I must ask him explicitly to accept that I was not involved in the decision to prosecute a particular person. You and the cutting edge of technology have already made yesterday's impossibilities the commonplace realities of today. Why should we start thinking small now? Hello, I'm Tom Brokot. Tonight on NBC Nightly News, we'll have a report on the reunion of Jeremy Levin and his wife after Levin's 11-month captivity in the Bekhov alley. Power corrupts. And absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. So stay tuned for 60 minutes of absolute corruption. For this is the hour of power.

So good morning and wherever you are across this great Southland, we hope that even if you are watching the television broadcast of the game that you'll be giving our words. We are so appreciative of that knowing that you are doing that. Of course you wouldn't be hearing what I'm saying now. I, however, am taping the game and here live, this is a distinct turn, turn about from a couple of weeks ago when of course I was taping this and watching the game live. That's how much your response, the love you have given me, ladies and gentlemen, has resulted in just an outpouring and also when I cleaned that up a love that I feel now for you. And speaking of love, I have to, you know, there's a thing in this business, ladies and gentlemen, called Vic Tayback.

There's also a thing called the payback and I just owe a great load of thanks to Mr. Michael Hourback. That's the paper you were hearing rustling as I'm trying to find the article here. He wrote some very nice things about this program in the current issue of the LA weekly. And as I recall, it's in the section just past all the ads with illustrations of Collins. You know, that section, it, colon is the key to your health. Okay, then I'll be sick. Thanks. Oh, here it is. Yeah. And I guess, you know, the, the lesson of this is that the seven months of just torment and agony back in New York were worth it because I've just been getting. Well, the herald the times the weekly, you know, the ink. So you have to figure that it was worth it for, for the ink. And Bob Tishler said to me one day, why don't we go for the whole McGillah? Uh-huh. Well, that, that is a interesting Dick Ebersol here hanging out with, with us here at the show today and just to prove that, you know, there's a friendship thing that goes way, way beyond any business thing. Dick, just for the sake of the listeners who might be wondering what, what did he mean by the whole McGillah?

The whole McGillah. Okay, fair enough. Speaking of which, before we get to what Michael Hourback wrote, another found object from the Jewish Orthodox Jewish radio show in New York. I neglected to give credit where credit is due last week and to say that the name of the program and of the host, therefore, this is the Uncle Ibish show hosted by Uncle Ibish and his sidekick Dove. Ladies and gentlemen, Uncle Ibish and his sidekick Dove. Now, this week's excerpt doesn't include anything quite as spectacular as last week's commercial for the famous poo poo platter. But you'll hear, first of all, Uncle Ibish with some philosophical thoughts on being a Jew and then another commercial message. Every Jew should realize how great it is to be a Jew and Mama, she want to be a Mackayn, the total misses the way the way a Yid should do. If a Yid has that in mind that it's certainly given the strongest chiseled, the strongest strength to want to be Mackayn, talking to the Torah the way he should.

I could be that time, but that type of a Jew really, but Emma's, Emma's, Emma's, and now we break for the following message. What's new? Yes, Keto now has soup mixes in four flavors, noodle spring vegetable, mushroom and barley, and onion, and you also will take advantage of their croutons. Break for soups, salads and snacks, and Keto also has brand new items, Ziggy bars and three flavors, and also the toots in three flavors. What's new? Funky toots. Something new. Funky toots. Delicious soup. Funky toots. Why Keto?

Because it's good. Why Keto? Because it's good. Why Keto? Because it's good. Okay, no poopoo platter, but a toot toot, I think. Might make up for it. You'll be the judge. And there are, those commercials run, you're not getting the full flavor of the program because they run about five or six of them. All the sponsors with the exception of that company, which I guess is an actual firm, but all of the other sponsors on the program are from the, I would say three square block radius in Burrow Park, Queens. And all the commercials are done by that guy. He just makes up a song about every store, every sponsor. And so after a commercial break, you really have the feeling that you've been to like Jewish summer camp, just from having heard of all of them. Anyway, Michael Auerbach in the LA Weekly. And as I say, I'm so grateful for some very complimentary things he says, but the first sentence in the article is, what would you trust your ears to a man with a foil-wrapped cucumber in his pants?

It's a second reference in three write-ups to a scene in this is spinal tap. I don't want to be over sensitive about it. You know, you cop your fame where you may. But I would like to put the kibosh to that particular trademark because it just isn't me. But we are, we are by-miked today. And that is not a reference to the microphone set up at rage on satamonic boulevard. It just means that there's a second microphone. It's not pointing directly at my mouth at the moment. And so, that's not Rick D's zipper effect. That's foil. Okay. All right, hey happy, let me just... Okay. Does that take care of it? I thought it would.

It was a weekend at Mount Vernon when Martin and I were alone. Jefferson and Madison had come down for dinner on the Friday evening. They had a meeting in New York the following Friday, so they had gone off in a carriage. And Martin and I were alone. And we began doing what we often did when the two of us were alone, which was talking with each other. And she asked me if I had any regrets about the way my life had gone up to that moment. Well, I sat back and thought about that for a moment. I was the country's most beloved leader. Of course, it's most successful in general. The new capital city was to be named after me. After some consideration, I said I had some regret about some of the campaigns during the Revolutionary War. I thought that crossing the Delaware, though daring, might have been better attempted during warmer weather, for example.

Then I asked her whether she had any regrets. And she looked thoughtful for a few moments, and then with that win some smile, which I had learned both to distrust and to love. She said, yes, I have one regret. I regret not having married Madison. One of the big stories, it's cucumber, it's good. One of the big stories, I'm pardon me, ladies and gentlemen, for eating on the air, I realize just how rude it is. Well, I don't realize exactly how rude it is, or I wouldn't do it, but I realize approximately how rude it is. One of the big stories of the week was, of course, the verdict in the general Westmoreland libel trial, where the jury decided,

well, the jury didn't get to decide anything, of course, the jury decided to go home. But we have, on our live satellite link up, we're very proud, as a matter of fact, this morning, because through facilities of MPR and some people working back east, we have on our line to talk about the verdict in New York City, one of the defendants in the case, Mike Wallace of 60 minutes, I guess you're proud to relieve, how would you describe your feelings at this outcome? Well, of course, it's hard to separate out what you feel in an occasion like this, as you know, I was in the hospital for exhaustion, which I'm sure the trial contributed to, as you can imagine, but there was also a very messy divorce that I just went through. It's hard to separate out those elements and know what part of what your feeling may be, relief that the trial is over, and what may just be a feeling of, all right, it's in the hands of the divorce lawyers.

Of course, all of us at CBS News are very proud and relieved, yes, that our reporting methods have been in a way vindicated by this lack of a verdict. I think we would have liked it to go to the jury, actually. I think all of us felt that we had a victory there, but it was such a rough divorce that basically I'm glad it's over. I'm sorry, I didn't know you were going to stop there, I started eating there. When you say glad it's over, does that mean that you and she have reached some settlement? No, I meant the Westmoreland case, no, no, that's far from over. I remember hearing you talking about it on 2020, as a matter of fact, with Barbara Walters.

Harry, let me ask you something. You're a young man, relatively speaking. Don't you feel that if a man has basically done all the income earning in a situation, and the woman has for 20, 25 years stayed at home, and really the child raising is basically over long since don't you feel that an equitable distribution requires that no alimony be paid at this point in time? Well, you know, it's rough, Mike. I really don't want to get drawn into something that... Well, you yourself were married, weren't you? Yeah, yeah, I was. And it did end in divorce, didn't it? Yeah, I did. Basically, we're here to interview you and to bring in another guest in a moment.

How is the reaction of, well, your son is a newscaster, Chris. What was his reaction to the verdict? Interesting you should ask, Harry. I don't talk that much to Chris, or, well, he doesn't call me, of course. He's very busy covering the White House, and you know, he gets so much prime time on the news over there. Yeah. And yet, it's as if he didn't realize that this verdict had come down, I guess. That's the charitable interpretation, of course. But he will be, of course, involved. There's a deposition that's going to be taken from him next week, so I guess I'll be hearing from him then. Okay, well, that's the, if you will, the personal side of this story. Now, for a more analytical side, and we had originally planned to have Dr. Arthur Katz from the University of Connecticut on with us this morning, who was an authority on Live-A-Law. But he had to cancel out in the last minute. We had the satellite link up to Connecticut, and through some very fast work, we got another man who's a very experienced broadcast analyst to come into the studio and talked to us about the case, Mr. Dick Vitowel over at the ESPN Headquarters in Bristol, Connecticut. Dick, good morning to you.

Harry, it's great the morning here. Of course, it's noon already. It's afternoon, but great, great time to be on the radio and talking about what a case that was. What a case. They had all the moves, CBS. They had, oh, you had to admire what they were doing. They had the inside moves. They had the outside moves. They had the lawyers and the three pieces. They just stuck to them and got the W. Well, that they did. I guess you were then a fan of their legal strategy of going after the general's credibility. Oh, you got to love them. Van Gordon-Sotters over there on the sidelines. He's saying, hey, Dick Vitowel, I don't have to wear a tie either, and I can just come in here and get the W. They stuck the J down at the end when it was crunch time. They had all the witnesses. They had the general witnesses. They had the press witnesses. And it comes down at crunch time and they pack it in, they pack it in, down inside.

And you got to go for that. Otherwise, you're going to get an L. You want the W. You do want the W. What do you mean by sticking the J? You just got to stick it to the judge because he's the guy. He's the big man. He's the guy up there that's going to decide. It's like you've only got one ref and it's the J. And you've got to run your play. That's what CBS did. His general West morning over there. And he's leaving a court house. He's saying, hey, Dick Vitowel, I got an apology. He didn't get an apology. He knows that. He knows he didn't get an apology. But he did a good job. Well, he got the L. Dick, I'd like to thank you for on very, very short notice and obviously just with a rudimentary reading of the newspapers coming in and giving us the benefit of your analysis this morning. Harry, you got to love the way these guys go at it. And you just wish they'd been some DT because that could have turned the whole thing around. It could have turned W into an L.

I suppose it could have final question. Dick, what do you mean by DT? Belaboration time. Harry didn't go to the J and by that course, I mean the jury in this case. But you got to love the way these guys went at it. There were blue chippers on both sides and they had no hesitation to rough it up and get involved and get messy. And it was the get the three pieces a little bit dirty, but it was the American way. You got to love it. I guess you do. Dick, thank you again, Mike in New York. Thank you for being with us on this kind of a three way hookup. It's a first for us. Harry, just thank you for inviting me and really when you when you stop to think about it, child support for someone who's the White House court of Spondent for NBC News does seem a little bit ridiculous, doesn't it? Well, not if it's Tom Brokaw when he was doing the job, I would have said anyway, that's where that's off the subject. We're losing the satellite. Thank you both gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, the hour of power continues. Hello, Mrs. Reagan. I'm Sully Moonfly, the star punky Bruce Jeff. And I'd like to give you just saying no drug scratchbook from the kids from Oakland, California.

Okay, I just want to thank you for making kids say no drugs. Why isn't Fernando on every show? There's such an integrity about the writer performance we have on the show this year, and they really don't want to attempt any of these things unless they're special. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. I think by this fall, you're going to see some mini crises taking place here and there. And I think by 86.7, get ready for one downer.

Looking for a job, mom? Very funny. Well, I am. Well, what's it this week, Laura? Marine Biology? Are we still hoping to be a star of stage and screen? Come on, mom, it's a tough choice. Sure, it's tough, and you can be anything you want to be. Programming the successful image requires that you first move into the area of your center of creativity, your subconscious. Let me therefore have your relaxed attention. You are expected to be both relaxed and attentive. For this is the time for mind training and image building. You are not to be in a state of sleep, but rather in a state of relaxed awareness.

Look at your mental blackboard and fix firmly on the letter I. It means your identity. Remember you have one. We're on a roll. People are buying the stock. One man walked in my office. I don't know. Unscared you and said, I don't want 30 seconds of your time, but I just want you to know just before I left home yesterday, I bought a million dollars with a CBS stock. We've had a number of instances. That's only a million dollars purchase that I know about. But something about 10,000 people have advised us that they're participating in it. That Senator Jesse Helms of North Carolina, one of the two nutty Jesse's in American politics today. He just spent $20 million to get reelected to a job that pays him $65,000 a year. So you figure it out.

Although to be fair now, his opponent spent $20 million to lose that office. So you know, it all makes a certain kind of sense. But fairness is really what what's an issue here. Senator Helms was talking about his campaign in which he's trying to raise enough conservative money to buy controlling interest in CBS so that he can straighten CBS out, so to speak. And CBS, it's strange. You know, it's it's the number one network, but it also seems to be a network that's attracting more than it's a share of controversy. There was the Westmoreland craziness. And there's this and CBS is a matter of fact, peanut Ted Turner this week to find out if he is trying to take them over to. And if it's so, if that has anything to do with Senator Helms's campaign, which is a

based in a nonprofit organization called fairness in media, anyway, all this is by way of introducing what probably is just idle speculation, but it's it's interesting to wonder what CBS would be like if Senator Helms were successful. It would probably be all who knows what it would really be like, but it might resemble something I like to call Jesse's CBS. We've got a way of having fun here in every way. A certain style, a certain fair that comes through every day. You've got the touch of America. And you're coming on with all the best we've got the touch of America. You and CBS, stay in touch with your world with the latest news each day.

Our news team will get it to you right away. Good evening. This is the Western edition of the CBS Evening News, Dan Ruther reporting from New York. Good news today for American farmers. President Reagan has vetoed a so-called emergency farm credit aid bill passed earlier this week by the Democrat-controlled House as well as the Senate. The veto ensures the president's policy of returning farmers to the free market system will not be disturbed by efforts to protect them from the bracing effects of bankruptcy. Meanwhile, at the White House, the president conferred today with Secretary of State George Schultz over the growing crisis in the South Pacific. New Zealand has refused to allow American nuclear-capable ships to dock in New Zealand ports, throwing the Anzus alliance and to disarray, possibly opening the door for eventual communist control over the critical international traffic in Kiwi Fruit. Tonight, in the 14th in our series of exclusive interviews with the president, Mr. Reagan discusses the problem down under.

Mr. President, you view the action of New Zealand as something very serious. Why? Well, Dan, that's a very good question. Thank you. You see, without the ability to keep a potential enemy in doubt as to whether, in fact, we do or do not have, or for that matter, do not have a nuclear weapons on board a ship that, for the time being, let's say, is docked in New Zealand, then, yes, I'd have to say an important part of our defense posture is damaged because, you see, unlike the Russians, we don't build weapons with the thought of ever using them. We build them to keep them guessing as to whether, in fact, they exist at all, and if so, where? And if that element is removed, then, yes, I'd say our build-up loses one of its key legs. Well, Mr. President, what steps did you and Mr. Schultz discuss today in regard to possible retaliation against New Zealand?

Well, now, again, this is where we have to be a little bit careful because they have been a good and strong ally of ours over the years. Although, frankly, we have had talks with the Prime Minister of Australia about the possibility of maybe having to ask New Zealand to leave the Anzus Alliance. I don't know about that, then. That would leave it as just the Anzus Alliance, and no, I don't foresee that as even sounding like a particularly good thing for this country to be in the Anzus Alliance. Well, that's a good point, sir, that hadn't even occurred to me. Although, now, just as I'm saying this, we could take the An out, too, really, because that's the new in New Zealand. So, it would really be the AIS Alliance or the AUS treaty, and that's not half bad. So, yes, we're still trying to determine the way to go on that. President Reagan, and an exclusive interview with CBS News, more of that interview tomorrow morning, on the CBS Morning News with Phyllis George and Pat Robertson.

To understand Joe Mangala, you first of all have to know one thing. Through second thin, through war and peace, this man has never valued anything, even human life, more than freedom, especially his own. Preserving that freedom is meant developing a wanderlust that Rand McNally might envy. A journey, you might even say an odyssey that has taken this soft, spoken, great bear of a doctor. From Peru to Argentina, from Portugal to his current home, somewhere in Ecuador. And that's where, last week, 60 minutes caught up with this, prisoner of freedom.

I liked to travel, but it was necessary for me to travel to avoid persecution by the communists. The communists pretend to be men of science, but they do not respect science. If the communists had their way, I might never have been able to swap organs among twins, and we might not have heart transplants today. What do you do here in Ecuador? I'm working in the field of Latin American affairs. Specifically, I'm a deputy assistant under Secretary of State on Latin American affairs for the United States. They tell me I'm the only employee at that level in the State Department who doesn't speak English, but I don't know about that.

I don't tend to talk to the others, for reasons that must be obvious. After all these years, you still pursue medical science at all. Every once in a great while, I'll get out some of the old equipment and work on some eyes I've carefully preserved. But mainly I've turned that aspect of my attention now to matters of botany. Yes, I'm working on an experiment now where I'm trying to see how long certain plant species can survive without sunlight or water. I believe we may have discovered some distinctly inferior plant species. If we scientifically do prove that they're inferior, then their fate, of course, would be a political question. Every morning, Joe Mangala still goes to his office and are building in a totally different section of town from this one, which we're showing you for security reasons.

At his age, he still answers his own mail, takes his own calls, reaches his own paper. He's in daily contact with officials in Washington and rebels soldiers in Nicaragua. For a man in his 70s, he makes Bob Hope look like a lazy bones. If you had anything to do over in your life, what would it be? Well, if I'd had the time, I would have liked to read more of Iron Rand. And I never got through the fountain head, for example. I think I would have been more serious about my stamp collection. And, of course, I think I would have been more energetic in communicating my love for the Jewish people to the furor. I do regret not doing that. Of course, at the time, we were all so busy. It has been almost 40 years since Joe Mangala sat off on his voyage of freedom.

Many things have changed. He won't be going back to Europe for any of the 40th anniversary celebrations. He's got too much to do south of our border. But as he told me when his security men were just about to let us leave, life has been good to him. After all, he said with a wink, I could have been himmler. We're on a roll. People are buying the stock. Alfonso Browns spent the first 30 years of his life as a free man. Growing up here in the southeast corner of Alabama, a small, sun-grazed town of Gadsden. 30 years as a free man, dropping out of school and rolling in the job cord just before it closes down,

suffering some of the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. Then, last year, his whole life changed. Alfonso Brown became a slave. Mr. Pickering came up to me one day and he said, hey there, how'd you like to be my slave? You know, when at first I laughed, I thought it was like a joke or something. But the more he explained the arrangement to me, really the better it sounded. You know, the work's regular. The food was real good. The whipping's on that bad every day. Basically, it's a lot like the army, except you don't have to leave town. Alfonso! So I got to get back to work. I'm going to get double dose of squats tonight for sure. By day, Alfonso works in the fields of Donald Pickering's cotton farm.

At night, he helps with the chores in the Pickering House. The old tradition of different slaves for field and housework has fallen prey to modern cost cutting. This way, there's one fewer mouth to feed. And despite the bad name slavery enjoyed for a while. Alfonso says he wouldn't have it any other way. The way I look at it, I'm a looking man. You know, a lot of my friends, they say, hey Alfonso, how about you getting me seen on some of that slavery action? But Mr. Pickering said that's what killed slavery off in the first place, with too many slaves and none of masters. He said this time around, slavery got to be treated like a privilege. It should be hanging out on the corner, that's for sure. Well, the one thing gas is so small, they don't got corner. Oh, he did get that double dose of squats for talking some word of us after all. But even the bite of the lash hasn't dimmed Alfonso's enthusiasm?

In a time when it's always hard to tell the boys from the girls or the men, Alfonso Brown is filling an old vessel of tradition with the fluid of new meaning. He's a born-again slave. Charles Corolt, CBS News, on the road in Gadsden, Alabama. We've got the touch of merry come. And we're coming on with all the best. You've probably found yesterday I bought a million dollars with a CBS star. You and CBS, you and CBS. Last week in Hollywood's longest running miniseries ever. I helped negotiate this contract. I helped engineer this contract.

And five minutes ago, I voted against this contract. This week, the saga continues. All the drama, all the emotion, all the rhetoric of Hollywood brought to its knees by the men and women who make it talk and their women. This is Walk Out on Sunset Boulevard. Mrs. Ann Blissett is Irma. She thinks agreement is good, and that's bad. He was very impressed with the rain dance. Until his friend said, oh, it's nothing. They just keep dancing until it rains. Well, I say we should accept this contract and keep dancing until it rains. Three years from now. Alan Bursky is Harlan, his heads in the future, his eyes are bigger than his stomach. I happen to have this special kind of mind that can write twilight zones.

Not everyone here has that kind of mind. And you, Fatso, are a sellout. And Donna Males is Naomi. She runs the union, but can she run from the past? Josh, we can't sit in this car forever. Why not? I've got to go back in. The meetings just in recess. They don't need you. They don't even know how to thank you. May, I need you, right here. Josh, I'm sorry. They do need me. Some of them won't know how to vote without me. And Vincent Gardini is Gary. The man caught in the middle of a war he never wanted.

So, Marty, what's a good blow off when she finds the snake in a new dress? Marty? Honey, where's Marty? He's on strike. Oh, yeah. We need an oof for the end of act one. The bit with the snake. Well, what about... I heard it saved the whales, but this is ridiculous. Hmm, not bad. Maybe she also weighs a funny hat. It's drama more gripping than anything else on television. Because they didn't write it. They lived it. We have to go on strike, because that's what a union does. We go on strike. And you shut up, fatso. We're here than Hollywood wives.

More observed than Hollywood Babylon. Longer than lace. It's the true story of the people who were mad as hell. And they weren't going to take it anymore until September. No, wait a minute, Naomi. You didn't tell us that you thought it was good because you had to. I had to because I thought it was good. You betrayed us. This is exciting. Once you've met them, you'll never forget them. And unless you see this startling finale, you'll never know what happens when there's a walk out on Sunset Boulevard. Monday at 8, 1230 voting time. I, Edwin Mees, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Against all enemies foreign and domestic. That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. That I take this obligation freely. Without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. I will well and faithfully discharge. And that I will well and faithfully discharge. The duties of the office on which I am about to enter.

The duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God. So help me God. That's why we need life to be in Washington, DC. Good morning, my fellow Americans. This week we won an important victory in both the House and the Senate for our Peacekeeper Missor Program. A program that will allow us to build a stable and secure bargaining chip that can be dismantled as part of a serious disarmament agreement. And thereby help us stay strong. The Congress really did as I invited them to do some time back. Make my day. But there remain difficult decisions for the legislative branch to consider. For example, we've proposed cutbacks in unnecessary duplicated child nutrition programs. I don't know whether you're aware of this, but right now federal funds are spent to feed children who in many cases already enjoy a meal each day. Congress knows that if we're to make any progress at all on the federal deficit, this kind of waste has to stop.

But again, if they're not able to make the tough decision, I've got my veto pen ready. If they wanted to clear a food fight, all I can say is toga party. Now to Central America. That's where brave freedom fighters are struggling against the communist dictatorship in Nicaragua. To our pleas for help for these brave freedom fighters, Congress is setting effect. Frankly, America, we don't give a damn. Well, I've got news for Tip O'Neill and the Democrat leadership. The American people support our plan. Tip, if you don't believe me, just phone home. But then it's been so long since Tip was in touch with anyone but the Washington Special Interest lobby. He probably doesn't know how to hear the voice of the people. The American people know that the Congress have nowhere else to turn for support in their brave struggle. After all, who are they going to call the Sandadish to Busters?

Finally, I'd like to share with you part of a letter I received this week from a formerly unborn child. His name is Jason, and he's only seven, and here's part of what he wrote to me. Out of all the gin joints and all the cities in the world, I had to end up in this one. Jason, I couldn't have said it any better myself. God bless you. Thanks for listening, and that's all our folks. It is again time for one of the most exciting events in all of sports. By that, I mean the NCAA championship tomorrow night. And I think every sports fan in America is a Twitter with the speculation as to whether the game is going to be won by Georgetown, by five points or by seven points. Interate sports brings to mind our guest here in the studio this morning, a man who is no stranger to this audience. He was heard on a special feature a couple of weeks ago, something that he's syndicating to television stations all over the country this week in rock and roll.

But he's back today with a news of a major, major new sporting. It's not an event, I guess it's an organization. Kurt Gowdy, welcome to the program. You're in from Boston just for what? Well, for just a couple of days, we're having meetings today, tonight, tomorrow. The final stages of organization are being set and the final plans are being laid for what I think in history is going to be remembered. It's one of the great new ventures, an organized professional sport. It's kind of a long memory, but this is not team boxing by any chance, is it? No, Eric, of course not. Team boxing was a concept of the Saturdays. We're talking about the sport of the 80s. And I think in about five years, it's going to be remembered as a major landmark in American professional organized sports. It's a major indoor baseball league or the major league indoor baseball. We haven't quite got the legal clearance on which we can call it yet.

It's either MLib or Milb. MLib sounds a bit like kind of a male counterpart to women's liberate. I'm sure you've thought this all out. We've heard major indoor baseball. What exactly? Well, let me explain it. Sure. Taking the game with baseball and bringing indoors. Bringing indoors, striking the field, speeding up the action, speeding up, bringing the fan closer to the action. The problem with baseball, of course, over the year. If you're not sitting very close, you're missing the action. Of course, it's taking place over vast, vast territory. Yeah. Now we're bringing indoors where it's contained. And where you can enjoy it in the comfort of an air-conditioner arena year-round, hopefully. Although, first of all, we'll be going winter and fall and winter. Fall and winter. We're going to be going for arena dates that are not yet occupied by either the NBA or the NHL. Or in cities where arenas are vacant. We're very confident. Already, we have several cities lined up.

This sounds like kind of a big deal. The biggest. What exactly is the nature of your involvement in it? Harry, of course, I've had brought in as one of the commissioners. One of the ideas we have is to have a dual commissioner league. One who brings sports expertise, credibility, and of course, that's yours. Absolutely. And another who brings business acumen. Uh-huh. That's so important today because you look at what has killed off many of the great, great professional sports leagues in recent years, in the last decade and a half, like a business acumen. Right. So we brought in Deadassia Cokka. He's Lee's brother. Probably heard of him. Well, sure. And he's one of the people who's contributing most to the success of this organization. He's got contacts all over the country. He's put us in touch with many of the owners who are going to be franchise holders in the Mibble or M-M-Lib. M-Mibble, man. Okay. Quickly, what cities do you have lined up and where are you going to be playing? And when can we look for this?

All right. That's what I mean on TV. Right. Right. You know, as I said, we're going to looking forward to an October 15th start. We're going to be playing the championship series of the world. We can't call the world indoor series or indoor series. Indoor series. Indoor league baseball owns the phrase world series. It's something we found out. Lawyers told us about it this week. So it's going to be indoor championship. It's going to be about the 15th of May. So it will be an exciting season. We'll go ahead and head with a major league outdoor baseball as we prefer to call it. About the last two months of our season. And of course, that's when the pen and races are driving towards their conclusion. And as far as the cities we're going to be in, we have definite commitment so far from Columbus, Ohio, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Washington, D.C., where they've been dying for baseball for years. One of the cities in Texas, I'm not a liberty to say which one yet. We're going to cover the Southwest because of course the Sun Belt is very, very big in sports. Potentially for the future.

Probably the first sports franchise of any significance to go to Albuquerque. Phoenix is definitely a possibility if we can work things out with the Suns. That's exciting. And the I show people over there. The game itself, perhaps we should talk about it a little bit because it's going to be changed. That's a good idea. Of course, there is no sport that is more encrusted, one might say, with traditional and baseball. Right. How what kinds of changes are you envisioning? Well, of course, the game has been ruined for a lot of people who really, I think, could get into it. By the predominance in the home run. Baseball is about running, hitting, catching, sliding, stealing. All the great fundamentals of the game. The home run is basically an oddity. You look back. There were no home runs in amateur double days day. It was a simple, pure game of base running, base stealing, hitting, catching, throwing. And so of course, we couldn't have home runs anyway because you powder one out of that arena area. You're right.

The fan in road J is going to get a baseball right in the kisser. So there's a big wire mesh curtain that goes all the way around the field. You can't hit it out. You just can't. Well, there are no home runs. Well, no way. But so aren't those the real heroes of a final baseball all that much? Aren't your home run hitters the real heroes of the game? Well, in modern day outdoor baseball. It's been dominated by the slugger. The image of the slugger. The home run slugger. The same way that let's say pro basketball has been taken over and destroyed by the seven foot giant. We're a return to the game to a more pure kind of form. And of course, there's still a role for the slugger. He'll be hitting a three-bagger and I predict that the triple will be the new glamour hit of indoor baseball. Basically, we're tinkering a little bit with the balls and strikes the ratio there, because we're not quite sure if the three and four works as well indoors or works outdoors. But of course, there's never a rain out.

And this is something we're hoping to sell when we eventually curse our dream is to go head-to-head with the outdoor game and move to a summer schedule. It won't happen for about three or four years, but it's definitely in the cards. Well, of course, by the cards, I guess you wouldn't mean the card. No, no, no, no, no, sir. When would you say we would be looking forward to? And would there be, there wouldn't be a franchise in this area? Well, and when would we be able to see some indoor baseball? I think the fans' appetites must be wetted. Well, yeah, they sure should. I know mine has. Well, we're talking about maybe Long Beach. The arena there looks pretty good. We're talking with some people. We're dickering at the moment. Uh-huh. And be our pleasure to move into Long Beach area right between Orange County and LA. Sure. Just sap some of the attendance for both the angels and the Dodgers. Yeah. It seems to be a pretty good idea. We could, uh, I don't know. We're tinkering with names. The, uh, the angles or the, the dangles or the dangles. You know, we're, we're trying to, something to combine. Combines of both the Dodgers and the angels.

Well, of course, because we want to get the idea across. It is still baseball. Right. It's baseball in a, in a new, more compact, faster-moving form. And of course, you know how this is saved soccer. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the outdoor leagues down to two teams. I don't know. They're going to play each other all year long. I guess. Right. But the interleague's thriving. That's what we're hoping with, uh, indoor baseball, major league indoor baseball. That, uh, within 10 years, you're going to have, uh, the National American outdoor leagues, uh, basically struggling and, uh, hanging by a thread while we thrive inside. Where it's warm and cool all year round. It's exciting, uh, as a, as a concept, I know. And, uh, you will be, uh, you have a TV package. Uh, ESPN or, uh, somebody like that. The Mizlup, the Mizlup people are very excited. Uh, they think they can syndicate, uh, probably 13 games out of our first 145 game schedule. Uh-huh. The first year. Uh, and, uh, there's, uh, definitely some interest from, uh, not ESPN, but USA. Yeah. And, uh, we are also talking about, uh, maybe a tie-in with MTV like the wrestlers have.

Well, that'd be great. This could be very, very successful for us. The baseball, rock and roll connection. Yeah. Uh, we don't know quite how, how it would work yet. But, uh, maybe Huey Lewis, uh, performing or coming up to bat. Who cares? Who knows? Well, that's, anyway. Yeah. We're very excited about it. And, uh, I, I would say by October 15th, uh, the cry of playball is going to be echoing in arenas all over the country. Well, I can't wait personally. Kurt, thank you. And I guess there'll be a couple of, uh, Annie Oakley is waiting for me down at the Long Beach Arena. Oh, sure. For a plug. Yeah. You know, that's not necessary because I say I don't really like the game. Well, I think, but good luck with indoor baseball and, uh, best of luck with all your projects. Thank you, Harry. I think you like the indoor game. It's fast-moving. It's exciting. And it's built for the non-baseball fan. Thanks very much for having us here and, uh, best of luck to you and whatever you're doing. The Strategic Defense Initiative has been labeled Star Wars. But it isn't about war.

It's about peace. It isn't about retaliation. It's about prevention. It isn't about fear. It's about hope. And in that struggle, if you'll pardon my stealing of film line, the force is with us. Support for this program comes from the CPR Arts and Performance Fund. Contributors to the fund include the Friends of Continental Public Radio, the Distant Acquaintances of Continental Public Radio, and the Corporation for Potluck Broadcasting. This program comes from Continental Public Radio, which is solely responsible for its office rental expenses. Good morning. This is Sad and Done, the CPR Weekly Magazine of the Arts and the Artsy. I'm Crescent Words. A New Exhibition of Contemporary Art opened this week in New York,

and while the works being exhibited do look familiar, they're new to the museum setting. I Resipkin Reports. The exhibit is called Local News Art, Eyewitness and Beyond. When it opened last Tuesday at New York's Whitby Casper Gallery, traffic was lined up virtually to the next block, waiting for the light to change. What do you think? More than 150 renderings have been gathered for this first-ever gathering of the drawings and illustrations that accompany stories on local TV news around the country. More than 30 artists are represented, including Enrique Svelas from Channel 7 in Los Angeles, whose memorable barricades captures all the horror and symmetry of the generic hostage situation. I don't think we've ever had an exhibit that covers this kind of emotional scope, but at the same time doing it in such a detached, almost machine-like way,

a gallery curator, Stuart Bar-Illian. You have fire from WVTV and Indonapolis, which is essentially an abstract, just very conceptual nugget of flame, almost a pixel, and then just the word fire with the top of the letters in flame. Very powerful symbolism, of course, and yet very direct. And then on the other hand, the other end of the spectrum is it where there is a piece like Shooting from Channel 4 in San Francisco. The sweep of the line is almost modern. The gun barrel changes perspective as it turns toward the viewer's worst perspective. It has a very surrealistic way, almost. And this is the somatic glue of the exhibition, always within the concept of something that's meant to be seen in the corner of the screen for no more than 10 seconds. It's working within that discipline.

It makes all the pieces seem almost like childrens or primitive work. And of course, that's the most expensive stuff going these days. So we're very pleased. The exhibit continues through June 30th. Then the originals go back to some lucky collectors. And the rest of us can see reproductions on TV every night. This is Iris Ipkin in New York. One of the biggest stories of the year in popular music, the Super Sessions and the Calls of Aiding, La Hungry, and Africa, got a new tractor this week, a familiar song, got a new set of voices. Iris Ipkin reports. A new group of celebrities added their voices to the swelling chorus against hunger Wednesday evening in an historic recording session at Manhattan's Track City studio. They're huddled around a half dozen microphones,

putting on their cellos for a special re-relates of We Are the World, with a cream of American sports gasters, from Keith Jackson and Marv Albert, to Kurt Gowdy and Vince Kelly. We are the world. We are the children. We are the ones who make a brighter day. So let's start giving. The choice we're making, there's our choice we are. We're saving our own life. It's true we'll make a better day, just you and me. Yes. We are the world. The Light Beer Foundation put up the money for the session, a New York post-sports writer, Glenn Vishnick, rounded up the famous strokes. The record should be out sometime between the Kentucky Derby and the All-Star Game. There's the choice we're making. We are saving our own lives.

It's true to make a better day, just you and me. We will make a beautiful day. We are the world. This is Iris Hipkin in New York. We are the ones who make a brighter day. So let's start giving. And for this week, that's said and done. I'm Chris Edwards. I invite you to join us next week for the next edition of CPR's Magazine of the Arts. But all's been said and done. Get's a quick once-over on, said and done. This is CPR, Continental Public Radio. First, the voice of America.

Then, the hour of power. Now, a new title. Perfectly in tune with today's taste. Towards lighter, shorter titles. From KCRW's Santa Monica. Welcome to the show. From the Holmes Total Collection, the West's leading active archive of historic storylines come tales of power, romance and adventure in our nation's capital. These are Hell Cats of the White House. Our story opens in the blue room. The president has just attended a ceremony, honoring the victims of the Holocaust during World War II. Adding his side,

wearing a discrete outfit by Golanos, is his wife Nancy. Well, I'm telling you something right now, Mr. Weasel. We said. Oh, sorry. Well, still to know, that was one of the most effective presentations I've ever had, the privilege of attending. You probably noticed I was under verge of tears. Yes, I did, sir, and I appreciated it. Good. Because you know it's not easy. But Mr. President, I hope you may heed the message of my remarks, regarding your visit to Germany. You know, we feel very deeply about it. Well, I think you know that no one sympathizes more with the victims of the Nazis than myself, whether those victims are the Jews and the Egyptians and what you will, or whether those victims are the actual soldiers who, after all, were under orders to butcher all those people.

Oh, mommy, you know Mr. Weasel. We said. Well, a lovely presentation you may have. Thank you. You know, I'm a little embarrassed to admit this, but I actually learned something from what you said. Well, of course, that was this. I actually thought all these years that the Nazis' ovens were electric. Well, no. Well, he must have had just devastating gas bills. Mr. President. Yes, Elton. Elton. I just want to stress again to you, I can turn about your visit to a cemetery in which Nazi SS members are buried. Your very visit appears to honor them, sir. Oh, nonsense. You know, I'll tell you something. I used to visit a lot of places on behalf of General Electric Conventions at all. And the only time they failed honored was when I was finished speaking.

Isn't that so, mommy? Oh, Ronnie, remember the time you were speaking in that factory in Padukka, Kentucky, and the lights went out? Just as I was saying, progress is our most important product. It was something to see, Elvis, or not to see, of course, was dark. Excuse me, Mr. President. Oh, yes, it's dark. Everything's ready for your trip to Camp David. You've got about five minutes to estimate it departure time. Oh. Well, Mr. Weaseling, I do not relate it to the wine, are you? No, sir. Well, congratulations on your congressional medal at all, and thank you for your very candid comments. Many Americans take this subject very seriously, sir. Heh, Mr. Ergard, in my position, all I talk to are people who take things seriously. As Frank Sinatra once said, that's the kick. Come on, mommy. We don't want to keep the secret service waiting. Shortly afterward,

President and the First Lady are relaxing in their Camp David retreat. The President is watching television, while Nancy is giving herself a nostril hair trim. You know, mommy, I'm worried about this trip to Germany. It'll be fine, Ron. We're taking our own food. No, it's not dead. I'm not sure that weasel fellow can be taken care of on this. We gave him a medal. We shared a photo opportunity with him, and still, only could talk about with those 30 graves. Well, maybe the Army could just dig up those graves and move them during the visit. Don't be silly, mommy. The networks would shoot it when there'd be a week of controversy about the soldiers using $500 shovels or some such thing.

You know, dear, I hate to harp on this, but when Ed was here, this kind of thing didn't happen to us. Look at this. His feathers almost completely out of his light. See that, mommy? His whole cheeks in shadow. Jesus. You know, Ron, I'm not sure Don is. Well, quite up to the job. Oh, now, you can't blame Lizard Don, mommy. He didn't invent the Nazis, you know. Still, he just doesn't... Hold that thought, will you? Can't, David. Big Buffalo. Hello, Mr. President. Mike. How's it going back there, sir? Well, Mike, it's like what Jack Warner once told me when

there was a lot of turmoil at this studio. Something's hitting the fan. And it's not Chanel number five. How's Europe going? Well, you heard about the Pope denying that he endorsed our Nicaragua policy. Of course. I read it in the summary of the news digest. Who the hell slipped up on that deal? I don't know exactly, sir. I've been over here. But wasn't Don supposed to clear that with the Vatican? Was he? Wasn't he? Anyway, sir, some good news. We can definitely add a concentration camp to your trip. Oh, good. This fellow vessel really has a stick up his behind about this cemetery thing. Which camp? Well, I did look a dark house the other day. But the sight lines are all wrong. Caramel angles. We think Bergen Belson is probably as good as we're going to get.

Bergen Belson. Sounds like a sweetie starlet that Bob Taylor used to go with. Who's that girl, mommy? What girl? You know, the light is terrible, whichever one we go to. I think we're going to have to bite the bullet on this one and hope the networks downplay the footage. Well, after all, it is a downer. Oh, by the way, you're on that other matter. Oh, yes. The BMWs ended up costing us about $11.5. But that's presuming the Army kept some home. All right. You know, Mike, maybe we ought to think about a visit to a BMW factory. Or I get the yuppies off my back for a while. No. Well, I've got to rehearse my call to the astronauts. See you Monday. All right, sir. Get my regards. You know, Ron, Ed never had you visiting cemeteries and death camps. I know. Something's definitely wrong, mommy.

It's like the old magic is gone. It is. Isn't it? Is it? Does Polyzex really stop at the water's edge? And if so, where does it start? Next time, we're rehearsing for lobbying Congress on Hellcats of the White House. See that up there? It's a Santa Monica freeway. That's the way most people get downtown to work. But I'm not like most people. I take Washington Boulevard downtown. It's beautiful, isn't it? While I'm driving, I'm also taking care of my morning nutritional needs

with post-keyweenuts. It's new. And most people don't like it yet. And get out of the way. See, there's no doubt that keyweenuts is right for you. The only question is, are you hip and trendy enough to be right for keyweenuts? Let me look at you. Maybe not. Keyweenuts is snotty and nutritious as a fine French restaurant. It's the cereal for those who think new veil. Another fine product of target foods. Last week, despite distractions from NBA basketball on TV at the same time, the host of this program managed to fill an entire 60 minutes. But this week, there's a better game on TV to be thinking about. And the forces of fatigue and on-we may be ready to take their toll. Meanwhile, there are dozens of other radio shows around town

ready to take advantage of any slip on the part of a Wiley veteran. It's a showdown on the dial. As once again, this week from Santa Monica. KCRW presents... ...The Show. The Hugo Awards. Here to announce the winner of the $1,000 Navy Unil contest. It's the founder of the UNO's Mr. David Martin. Good evening and welcome to the UNO Awards 85. You know, that's probably the last time that I'm going to get to say that. This is an exciting show that we have for you. And it's a new and exciting Canada that we bring you tonight. Tonight you will get a little glimpse of the future and tomorrow.

I'd like to read for just a moment if I may from a letter which we received here this morning. It is entirely fitting that the Canadian popular music industry, which has received such critical and commercial acclaim abroad, be given the center of the national stage on this occasion of the UNO Awards 85. The letter is signed by Brian Mulroney, Prime Minister of Canada. I would like to express my thanks to the many thousands of people who send in suggestions for the brand new name of our award show. And now to that new name. The $1,000 cash prize tonight goes to a woman who is in our audience tonight. Her name is Antoinette Mutsair. She comes from Halifax, Nova Scotia. We believe that the new name says exactly what this show is all about. In words, it means Canadian artists selected by you. Ladies and gentlemen, I am proud to give you the Kesby Music Awards 85.

The C.F. and Y and C.B.L.G. who's at the 1985 Pazby Awards. Starring Del Gello, Dark Crew, even everything. The gospel project, Gella, Beverly Hills, all hungry. Images involved, World Drive, Sherry Key, Eugene Levin, One John Baldwin, Richard Manuel, Manteca, Joni MacLeod, Alinda Metz, Nazca Slash, The Vibes, or Pustle of the Lovers in the dark, psychedelic birds, Harold Short, James Cigarette, Riscoons, Samantha Taylor, Dave Talks, Ladies and Gentlemen. Welcome to the first annual Kesby Awards. What I don't understand is how these kids become rock stars.

Maybe you could help me with this. Maybe you could explain to me what it is that I'm missing about these young kids. And they're crazy rock and roll music. Ladies, things have changed Paul. Stick with me and let me be your guide this evening. You will shine. As only I can, and you know I can. Yes. First, you gotta have the right management. And of course, hair is a vital part of music today. I thought she was going to get pulled out. Very important. You've got to dye your hair black or become a bottled lawn. And you think the right gel or moose is so important. Gel or moose. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't over moose tonight, did I? No, you can never over moose. All right, I'm glad. You know, I don't know. Even when I had hair, I didn't have the right hair. It's, I know it's so hard. How about the new name?

Caz be awards. What do you think about it? The people have spoken. The people seem to like it. It's a people's award. It's incredibly exciting. This people's award show. Carol, I have a feeling it's going to be the hippest award show ever. Ever broadcasts in the history of television. We have some swinging presenters. We have, we have, we, we have got an award. So hipp is for the best non-recording artist. That's a band that can't even get a record deal. Can't even get a record deal. That's like an award that, you know, you give to a band for getting turned down by the most number of record companies. Very, very elitist. But I want to tell you, it's great to be back in Canada. And it is great to see you again. Carol Pope. Hippies show on TV. You know, this next presenter and I are truly best friends.

We have been, we have been for some 15 odd years, 20 years. But more important than that, I think, we are show business friends. Which to me, as you know, is even closer to my, to my heart. This man is an institution. Some people feel he should be an institution. When this guy opened for Carol's band, rough trade, a couple years ago. Someone threw a beer in his face. But things are a little bit different for him now. He is a performer. He is an entertainer. He is a writer. An actor. He is a, my best friend, Martin Short, everybody. Our next presenter brought Canada to national attention. By introducing the world to the expression, you hoser.

You know what I'm talking about. This guy, talk about a friend, talk about a show business friend, talk about a kind of a 15 year thing with a guy. Heterosexual, of course. This guy rearrages whole schedule to be here tonight. And I think after making Canada a laughing stock, it's about the least he could do for us. Please welcome my best friend in the whole world, Mr. Dave Thomas. Listen. Let me say this. Oh, there we go. There's a thing in this industry that is very dear to my heart. A little something called the show business favor. Let me explain how this works. Let me just explain. Stay with me here.

When a Joey Hetherton, for instance, is working in a Vegas, you know, in the main room. He calls the Nipsy Russell. And she says, Nipsy will come over and do five minutes in my second show. You know, Nipsy's there. Forget about it. There's no question about it. He's there for the second show. You know, and he does 10 minutes because they have a relationship. This is the thing about a show business favor. And I'm happy to say I have the same kind of relationship with this next gentleman. Please welcome my dear friend. And I'm really thrilled that he's doing this show tonight. Mr. Eugene Levy. Okay, Carol, I've learned an awful lot. I have learned that the Canadian kids today really do have something to say with this nutty thing that they like to call rock and roll. Yes, we have honored some brand new artists.

And I, which I think is just great. I've learned that talent is important. Innovation is important. Having the right here will always be important. Today, originating, and this is so exciting, I can hardly believe it from the Seamy Valley Fashion Mall. In the midst of what I think is the new Beverly Hills to come in the days and weeks and months. The Southern California Blossoms and finds itself. This is the place where perhaps new ideas will have a chance to blossom. Unlike, you know, what has happened in Beverly Hills and so many in New York, especially what they do. All the old ideas all over again and just call them new and sell them to the woman. And it is so, so interesting that she sees fit at this late date in the fashion era to play along with it.

Anyway, this is strictly from Blackwell, I am Blackwell. And we are so happy to be with you and to be talking not about the fabulous Seamy Valley area where we will be doing our fashion, our many fashion show. This afternoon at 4 p.m., and this is not applied because it goes, there were already too many tickets sold, but just why we are here today. And we are talking, we're going to have good conversation with Mr. David Schlesinger, who is publisher and editor of a fabulous new publication about the people who make the state of mind that is the place that thinks of itself as Beverly Hills. It is a publication called Beverly Hills Celebrity Life. And Mr. David Schlesinger has been involved with many, many of the most prestigious publications that have previously come up to cover Beverly Hills. But I think this one, David, if I may.

And I've seen only the pilot or the, what do they call that issue? It's basically a sample. It's not the real magazine. Right. We will come out with it. Our plan is to begin publication with the August September issue and from then on, we will be either a monthly or a biweekly. That would be twice a week, twice a month, twice a month, okay fine. David, what has always seemed to me the hallmark or the trademark or the placemark or the landmark of the kind of publications that you have done in the past now. I don't want to lock you into the past, but you know, it's interesting to see. It has been that your way of looking at the wonderful things that are going on in food and fashion and at home furnishings and architecture and film and theater and restaurant society and wonderful, wonderful, wonderful new restaurants that are up every day in Beverly Hills. Your attitude has always been, let's look at the positive. Let's not dwell on the negative of whether the food or the clothes or anything else is any good.

But whether, you know, there is a wonderful statement being made about what it means to live in a state of mind called Beverly Hills. Is this not true? That's very true Mr. Blackwell. You know, there's so many people that go around these days that are just, you know, that are criticizing or evaluating or judging. And we feel that there's room in the marketplace for a publication which strives at least. We don't always succeed, of course. Talk about the good things, the charity gala's, the street openings, the street parties, the wonderful trends in valley parking and the fact that, you know, what a person like Bichon is doing with. Let me just, let me just say this about that, you know, there has been so much criticism of Bichon for closing his doors and dealing with people on a appointment only basis.

And I would say, you know, when I'm going to go, I'm going to go out on a little limb right here. I would say this saved Rodeo Drive. Would you not agree? No question about Mr. Blackwell or the street was desperate for a symbol of the quality image that it was trying to project. Exactly. No doubt about it. The Bichon brought a whole new element from a whole on the part of the civilized world, you might say. I mean, I don't think that Rodeo Drive had the visibility, had half the visibility. For example, in the Lebanese community that it did until Bichon closed his doors. But the exciting thing to me about Beverly Hills celebrity life is that basically we go way, way beyond Beverly Hills to take in the story of the whole exciting west side, which to me is just the most exciting place in the world at the moment. And this is where it is. And this is where it is going to be. And this is where we're going to be.

David Schlesinger from Beverly Hills celebrity life. What is the future of the Olympic corridor? I have in your pilot issue, there is a wonderful, wonderful story about all the building that is going on in the Olympic corridor and it's effect on the real estate values of the corridor. What is this going to do to life on the west side of Los Angeles? Okay, Mr. Blackwell, you've no doubt heard that a lot of people are saying that Olympic is overbuilt. Yes, we feel that it has not even begun to scratch the surface of the iceberg. And that the development community wants it clear as the current inventory of office space on Olympic is going to be constructing a whole new high-rise universe. That will soon become a second jewel, along with Century City in the west side, a second office commercial jewel to go along with the retail jewels of Beverly Hills and Century City. Of course, all the wonderful places that are coming up now. But interesting. When you look at a west side tower, when you look at an Olympic complex, Olympic plaza, what we see is the future.

The west side of Los Angeles, we want to be a part of it. Okay, interesting. You should say that David Schlesinger from Beverly Hills Celebrity Life is a guest in studio, except that of course in studios here in Seamy Valley. And we are talking about all the wonderful things that are going on in the west side of Los Angeles in 1985 because this is now, this is what is happening now. David, it is interesting to hear you say that because there was so many people who were saying, wait a minute, is all this right for Olympic, which to me has always been kind of a whole home street. You know, it's kind of a, we'll have to go through this to get to that. But, you know, maybe just maybe, and I don't know anything about this, but I'm just speculating that it's going to be in the future. The street that you're not going through to get to, but that you're going to, does this make sense to you?

I think Mr. Blackwell, we're talking about in five years, three major streets on the west side. We're talking about road, day or drive. Okay, we're talking about Main Street in Santa Monica, and we're talking about Olympic Boulevard, I think Will Schrupp. I think Pico, I think Santa Monica Boulevard itself are going to be seen as adjuncts to a very important street, a very important Boulevard. Interesting. We're trying to cover that as well as the wonderful world of restaurants and fashion that you mentioned before in Beverly Hills. This is one thing I wanted to mention that you have been involved with some of the most successful publications in the history of Beverly Hills. And now you are taking this positive attitude, this positive mentality that, okay, whether it's good or it's bad or it's an inner and out, you are not going to judge it. You're going to report it and talk about it. If someone is giving a party, you are going to report it as the news that it is and not someone's opinion of who's supposed to be there and who really was there.

And you know, the dish, which of course is, you know, something that oddly enough, I have made my fame in, but it's not, you know, it's all on to me to be known for doing the negative. And of course, you know, I feel a somewhat positive. We have on the phone with us now Kenneth Petrosion, who is, of course, checking in to talk about what has happened in the wonderful world of precious and certainly precious gems. Kenneth Petrosion, what is happening to go? Please tell me if you can. We feel that, you know, we said six months ago that you sell every piece of gold you got and get into rubies and animals. You know, we've been this is being confirmed by what is going on. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Much higher than anybody is now. Same as I was. Right. Okay. But yeah.

But you see Kenneth, if I may, and I do hear you, I hear what you were saying. But to me, the thing is that six months ago, it seems to me like everyone in this brother was saying by, you know, to me, this is the difference. But today, when you say the class, the emerald, the class, the Ruby, what is let us say for a woman who comes in with a wonderful jewel and says, Kenneth, I love having this, but I can't wear it anymore. Turn this into cash for me, if you will. What do you say to this woman? I didn't know you, but basically what I'm saying today, get out of summer precious gems. This is a trap. You look at what's going on. The economic summit this weekend. Okay. There is not going to be a market for this in the foreseeable future. And so I'm turning from to get into grain.

Okay. Interesting. Doctor Kenneth Petrosion on the line with us. And from rodeo drive in Beverly Hills, I again, oh, you an apology, because I did agree with the station people not to call you doctor. And in studio in semi Valley. David Schlazinger, editor and publisher of Beverly Hills celebrity life, David, and we can look for addition one volume one number one, when and where. It will be coming on stream very shortly. It will be 250, perhaps $3 cover price. It will be on sale, not by home delivery, only new stand sales. It is a premium item and will be unavailable at premium locations. Okay. David, very excited, Mr. Blackwell of all the publications that I've been involved with. And you know, the list is now getting about as long as my home. This is the one that.

David, David Schlazinger from Beverly Hills celebrity life magazine, we must vanish the shadows are getting so long I am looking like I did before the facelift. And thanks again to Kenneth Petrosion and thanks to the wonderful people here with the semi Valley fashion plaza for the mini fashion. So coming up later today, cocktail and evening only until next time when we will talk about the wonderful world of New Zealand cuisine. Interesting, never really thought that much about it. Until then, strictly from Blackwell, this is Blackwell, bye bye. The show salutes the distinguished Southern California laundromats that feature this program on their piped in audio service. This week's honor golden role of laundromats and looties includes Sutteremma in Sherman Oaks, Sunbray, Launderette at the corner of sunset in La Brea in Hollywood, Ella's Laundry Heaven in Gardena and Launderissimo in the Torrance Old Town Mall.

If your laundromat features this show, send us your business card. Till then, a good wash, a fast dry and no homeless people living in your store to you all. This week, 10 years after American troops withdrew from Vietnam, the show looks back at the lighter side of the war. President, I think any American seated in this chair tonight would want to ask you about peace. Do you have any fresh, new ideas about getting peace in Vietnam? Peace is the number one subject in the mind of every leader in the government. We are searching for it to the part of every day.

It is inevitable in the war of such complexity that there should be occasional difficulties in reaching a final solution. We believe that peace is at hand. Next stop, the Pentagon East, Tan Sunud Air Base, Saigon. There's lots of VIPs in our audience today, including Ambassador to Vietnam, Ellsworth Bunker. If he laughs, we get our passports back. And he's a very good friend, the fellow who runs the store, or star General Fred Wyon. I'll never forget the time a total stranger walked up to me and handed me a grenade. Are those hours? They're bringing my laundry in. Here's what it's all about, and this is where it's here, 12 of the most beautiful girls in the world, and certainly 12 of the most charming, the American beauties.

With so much to smile about, who knows? Maybe it was worth it, after all. Think how far we've come from that time when despair made these tragic victims wonder if anything could survive. As we flew here from Hanover, low of the greening farms, and the emerging springtime of the lovely German countryside, I reflected, and there must have been a time when the prisoners at Berger, Belson, and those of every other camp must have felt, the springtime was gone forever from their lives. I'm iris itkin, this week on up to here from Continental Public Radio, Vietnam, 10 years after, the story of those who didn't go.

I'll be dreaming that I'm back at a dreamy Hendrix concert, and I'll wake up and I'll scream at my wife, honey, I'm peaking. The boys who stayed home have their scars too. I'm iris itkin, join us for their story this week on up to here, radio that sounds like it's about something from Continental Public Radio. From high atop the western sideline of the world's most beautiful indoor sports theater, the house that Jerry bought, good morning everyone through the combined facilities of the Laker radio network, the armed forces network overseas through the shortwave facilities of the Laker radio network. I'm chicken her in with you and Laker talk on a Sunday morning at the forum, beautiful Southern California Day and the Los Angeles Lakers poised on the brink of what may be their most significant championship series in two years.

And right now they're engaged in an intense team meeting behind closed doors here on the Laker floor auditions for the Laker Girls 1985 edition coming next fall. Let's take some calls this morning on the Laker line. Hello, you're on with Tiki baby. Hello, Tiki. This is Maurice in El Segundo. Good morning to you, Reese. I can hardly hear you. There's terrible feedback here, but please go ahead with your question. Okay, all right. I just wanted to know whether you think it's the Lakers going to win it in five. Hello, sorry, Reese. That was the famed sports writer Doug McCornian for the Harold examiner. Let me explain to me your question. Say it again. The Lakers win by five. What are you talking about the point spread between the games or I'm just not clear in what you're saying. The Lakers can win the series with Boston in five games. Well, of course, the Lakers would love to win the world championship series in five or seven games reason for that matter. Can it be done though? This is the question.

And I asked Pat Riley a question very much like that this morning on the plane here from Los Angeles. And what he told I think you'd be interested in what he told me, Reese. He said the Lakers can win if that's all he said. The Lakers can win if and I don't know about you, but I think that sums it up pretty well. Thanks for the call. Good call. Good question. You're on the Laker line on the Laker radio network. Hello. Hello, chick. This is Denise in West coming on the first time tower. Reese, I can hardly hear you. There's just a terrible, terrible problem with the headphones here. I think you said first time caller who's so glad, of course, to have you here on the Laker line going around the world today on Armed Forces radio. What's your question? I understand that there's a change in the format for the playoff games this year. And I was wondering if you could explain that and what the new format is and why they made the change.

If I could explain that to you, I would be probably a candidate for the funny farm. Let me just try to tell you what they've done. It used to be under the old format, which was in use in the NBA up till last year. A team would play if they had the home court advantage, they would play games, games one and two in their home court, game three, they would go on the road, game four, game six, no, that's not right. They would play the last game, the last two games, they would play two games on the home court. They would then go on the road. In any case, what they've done now, just to just to boil it down for you is they've adopted the same setup as the World Series and the Stanley Cup playoffs so that if you are the visiting team, let's say Reese. And you win one game of the first two on the opposing team's court, then you could have a three game sweep on your home court and sweep the series.

So this is what the the Celtics, I believe are so concerned about, you see, and the Lakers and play three games in a row at the forum after the first two games that the Lakers will be playing three games, Reese, that's correct. But of course, there's no reason for the change except for one and we know what that is. I in the sky that controls the game, but thanks for the call, a good call, good question. Yes, hello, you're on the air with Chick, a special edition of the Laker Lime on the Laker radio network. Hi, Jeff. Good to talk to you, buddy. You're the Celtic fan, of course, that calls us throughout the year. All right, fine. Jeff, we were running quickly out of time. What's your question on the Laker line? Chick, I'm still trying to figure out exactly how the illegal defense rule works. Oh my goodness. When a team is double teaming the ball.

You know, Jeff, I wish that the NBA would come to their senses on this as on so many other issues, of course, from raising the basket to widening the lane to reduce the Laker finesse in the game as it exists today. But why not let them play whatever defense they want to play? These are grown men. These aren't 18-year-old college boys. These are the greatest athletes in the world. If they want to play with pantyhose over their faces, Jeff. Believe me, if I don't mean to say that racist remark, it's just fervilous and the best sense of the word. They should be allowed to do so because if they want to play zone, let them play zone. Well, fans don't want to see a free throw contest. That's my opinion. In any case, Jeff. Simply stated, if a defensive player is not, is double teaming a man before he gets the ball.

And if that lasts for more than 2.8 seconds, let's say, for example, Karim is posted up down low and will start to turn in to throw in the hook shot. And he's double teamed by Sigma and the little guard. In this case, the little guard is Holland. And Karim doesn't have the ball yet. Of course, double teaming will that way without the ball. That's the illegal defense. And of course, it's so silly because it gets in the way of this great game. And that's what the fans pay to see. But thanks for the call, Aries. And there you have it, fans. A special no game today edition of the Los Angeles Lakerline. Thanks for all the calls. And thanks to Susan Stratton for her usual fine job from the forum. This is check. And that last snap on the TV. Me and my baby got the stars in our eyes. Gonna let the magic come and carry us away and get a big surprise.

Love it moment through the sun. Every moment, every evening, every thought is very happy. Cause the stars shine all the time. There's always something good to see. On ABC. You love it. Just you and me. You love it. On ABC. You love it. Just you and me. You love it. On ABC. You love it. The A team is swell. And Reptile is true. And punky Brewsters here as well. On NBC. If we can make it to number one, our next convention will be fun. Well, I guess for sheer excitement, nothing quite compares this week to the Philadelphia police dropping a bomb on a cult house.

It's a fortified cult house. Let's be fair. But it must have driven Los Angeles police chief gates just a little bit up the tree to know that he's got the battering Ram, but he doesn't have the bomb. I don't think he does. It's not in the copy of the police budget that I make regular bedtime reading. I don't know about you. But aside from that, the most exciting thing in the country this week was the reuniting of erstwhile, I guess would be the word rapist and rape victim. Now apparently not rapist and rape victim Gary Dotson and Kathleen Webb on all three television morning news shows on Wednesday climaxed by an interview on the CBS morning news during which Phyllis George suggested that they hug to sort of demonstrate that there were no sort of speak hard feelings.

In any case, the story doesn't stop there. And the exclusives, of course, don't stop with the so-called majors. We have here in our studio on a press and publicity tour of Los Angeles will be on entertainment tonight tomorrow and PM magazine stuff. We've got him first here in our studio this morning. Kathleen Webb and Gary Dotson. Welcome kids. Now, a lot of people may think that they're familiar with the outlines of this story just to review briefly. Gary, you were convicted of raping Kathleen and served some six years in prison. That's correct. And Kathleen, you recently recanted the story, said it was fabricated. And Gary was paroled, but not pardoned, as I understand it, is that basically where we are so far? We're appealing that.

Okay, now I understand that there are some new, there's a new angle to the story that you're going to be discussing, I guess beginning today on our show. That's correct. There's a part of the story that really hasn't been told yet. And it seems to us and the people who are advising us now that it's time for the rest of the story to be told. There are just a brief detour. There have been what, 41 film and book offers total going to you both. No result of this situation. That's a little embarrassing because it hasn't been quite that many. I see. Well, how many has it been? Really, no more than about 3334. The only ones that I'm seriously considering, there's one where my character is a karate instructor. Okay, excuse me, Gary. Kathleen, let's get back to the new angle on the story that has been revealed here exclusively this morning.

Well, we've told about the fact that Gary never raped me, but what I've never told before is that what happened that night is that I raped Gary. Well, you know, there's just a lot of questions that would occur at a time like this. Gary, let me ask you one of them, which is why didn't this come out of the trial? I was afraid that I'd gotten my girlfriend pregnant, and it just seemed better to let this thing happen than face the consequence of my parents very strict. It must be here. It just snowballed from there. Well, once I was in jail, it seemed to be more trouble than it was worth to bring this up.

Yeah, I can see that. Kathleen, what about you? Why has it taken so long for this part of the story to emerge, the fact that you in fact did rape Gary rather than vice versa? I was afraid that Gary had gotten one of my girlfriends, my best girlfriend pregnant, and when it turned out that she wasn't pregnant, it was too late, and then we just kept, you know, missing each other on the phone. Where are you going to have an answering machine in prison? I'm sure. And you, Kathy. Well, I guess at this point, knowing why the story hasn't come out till now, maybe the appropriate question is why now? What has happened that has made this thing turn around this way?

I guess it's mainly what I've been through recently. I've just spent the last month very, very deeply involved, aside from this, of course, in learning really allers to learn about and beginning to experience what it means to sell herbal life products. And it just has, it's just made, made it impossible for me to keep this hidden anymore. Okay, I guess I'm presuming that this was, this has been a fairly profound experience. All I can say is that I lost 16 pounds using the product, and I've never felt better in my life. You know, I have heard that from others, although a girlfriend tried using it for a while and had to stop because she was afraid she'd gotten herself pregnant. Gary, what has this been like for you this past period of time?

I didn't use the product, so I haven't lost any. No, no, I meant, you know, the case. Well, of course, the main thing is, I'm glad I'm out. And, you know, if the good Lord would be so, so kind, and we get to do this, where my character is a carotene instructor, and Kathleen is a model who does police work on this side. Yeah, I read about it. We're really running short, and I know you kids have a very busy schedule today. You're going to be doing some pre-interviews for the views section and such. And I just want to thank you. Public Radio doesn't break that many stories, but it's been, if I could use this phrase in this context, to treat for us to do it here today. And, you know, you're welcome to adjourn to the lounge for some public radio, coffee, and donuts, and just relax. Because I know this has been very stressful for you. Thank you both for being here.

Thank you very much. When there's war overseas, when there's a new disease, I'll report it to you. When you want to know about floods, or see the new Paris duch, I'll be there. Lean on me when the president speaks, when the Turks take the Greeks, will tell you everything. How the economy works. Why the Greeks take the Turks? You can lean on me. Lean on me, reporting a drought, or a new kind of drought. I'll be the one you can trust. Just telling it straight, paying freight. You can just lean on me. Thank you.

Good morning, by fellow Americans. Earlier this week, as I hope you and your family know by now, I presented the outline of our plan for a simpler, fairer federal tax system. What I call the Second American Revolution. Since then, the predictable army of lobbyists have begun their march on Capitol Hill, accompanied by their predictable navy of attractive young women. So it looks like this summer we're in for the Second Spanish-American War, as the special interests try to plant their flag on the shining hill of tax reform. Let's talk just a minute about what our tax plan could accomplish for all Americans. Well, maybe I'll talk, but you and your family can listen.

Eight years ago, two young men in a garage were tinkering with some spare computer parts. Out of that garage came a company of their own. In soon, writing the jet stream of opportunity that we want to reserve for all Americans, their company became an instant success in the computer business. And eventually, one of the partners quick to start his own company, and the other partner was kicked upstairs in a management reshuffle. Well, if our tax plan can get by the sticky fingers of Congress, that could be just the beginning for millions of Americans who want nothing more than what Frank Sinatra once described as just a chance to slip $5 to the guy at the front door. Maybe you could be the next Apple computer. Maybe your neighbor could do what the Hagen does family did. Or maybe like seven-year-old Tiffany Nehauss and Edgerton Wyoming, you could open and operate your town's only out of town newsstand. But that great shining door of opportunity could be slammed in you and your family's faces, unless you make your feelings known where it counts most, right in your own front yard.

You see, the other party seems to make its living these days dividing Americans, pitting rich against poor, young against old, white against a certain element. But we won't divide America up against herself. With your help, we can keep the great shining space shuttle of opportunity aloft, despite the potshots from the special interest types who called their spaghetti pasta and put something green on top of it. So won't you let you and your family's congressman or woman know that you agree with me that tax reform, like the second American gold rush, is long overdue? You know, a young child actor recently wrote to me on another subject. But this spirit and initiative that young fellow showed in writing to the president of the United States, asking me to pray for his brother, who's up for a Tony award. And that's a kind of thing that can unleash a powerful force for progress in the world, something called good old American spissor kingdom.

You know, with your help, by this time next year, we could all be basking in the shining glow of the ultraviolet lamp of opportunity. And we could all be celebrating what you might call the second American bicentennial. God bless you and your family. And thanks for listening. First, he settled a score with the man in Oregon. Then he got our POWs back from NAMM. Now, he takes on 600 million Arabs to get our hostages back. Sylvester Stallone is back in Sylvester Stallone is Rambo, the hostages, first blood, part three, new blood. What do we do now, Mr. Secretary? Wait, pray, General. We pray. That's it.

Well, what do you expect from a man whose job is Secretary? There must be someone. There is. Please, you can't go in there. It's the control tower. Yes. Can I help you? I'm looking for a man named Barry. I am here. Good to meet you. I know. Rambo, lucky for us, we took over the embassy where he was still just a boxer. We have now a newsline live from Beirut, the man who rescued our hostages. Mr. Rambo, how do you feel right now? Well, I'll tell you.

No man, no plan, no canal, can stop him. He's the guy every infant yearned to be because he always gets his way. Or else. For a country that's too fed up to think straight, comes a man too straight to think. Stallone, Rambo, the hostages, first blood, part three, new blood. He's a brilliant G, the title's too long, but your hair smells terrific. Coming Friday to a theater knew you that loves America. In the home's title collection, the West's leading active archive of historic storylines come tales of action, romance and adventure in our nation's capital. These are Hellcat of a White House.

Our story opens in the conference room of the president's camp David retreat, far from the pressures of a living room. With the president, our dawn is nearly trusted aid, and George still just a heartbeat away. They're convening an emergency session of the president's crisis management team. Well, George, what do you think? Well, I don't know done. I think it's a time that cries out for watchful waiting. What about you? Well, I've been through a few panicky situations myself back on a Wall Street. And what I've learned from them is sell when it gets to 80. That's it. Excuse me, sir. That's what you've learned. Well, it worked very well with Xerox, Mr. President. Oh, I don't believe this. I've got the fate of 40 American citizens trembling in my hands. And you're talking about great stock deals you've made.

I'm sorry, darling. I know what you were doing was breathing the cool, refreshing air of entrepreneurial excellence. But I'm in what Jack Warner, bless his heart, used to call a ball grinder. You certainly are run excellent way to cut to the heart of the matter. Don't I don't like to bring up ghosts of the past at a time like this, but what we need is Jim had a name for it. He called it crisis management. All right, sir, two things. One, yes, Jim's gone and two. I'm with you. What I really think we need is crisis suppression. Oh, that's interesting. I was going to say I thought what you were going to say is crisis endurance, but this is better. Don't you think? Maybe so. Damn it. I feel so frustrated. We all do, sir. Do you? Don't we? Look, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Right? So far, plan A is working. You look business like, sir, uncaptured by the crisis.

Meantime you get to meet some folks in Indianapolis and Dallas and make that all important case for tax reform. Meantime, the hostages are alive and five of them are on TV every night. We know they're fine. Don't you see? We're winning. We're winning. George, in this business, I've, I've learned to go with my gut. It's, it's kind of been lucky for me. No doubt about it, sir. You've got a very lucky gut. And I don't know. I, I've got a gut feeling on this that we're not winning right now. Maybe it's those damn ribbons. I see yellow ribbons. I think of Carter and yellow streaks down the back problems of masculinity. I don't know my, my gut's all mixed up on this. I, sir, I'm not saying there, there is a log jam here, but if there is, let me try to break it. Weinberger does nightline, Schultz does Larry King. You know something? That could work.

Could it, George? Could it? It's now later that night in the Trisha Nexon bedroom at Camp David. The president is watching a late night special on the hostage crisis. His wife Nancy is tattooing the mile blusher into her cheeks. Good evening. Lebanese leader Nabe Berry announced tonight that the Amal militia may turn the hostages back over to the hijackers. Oh, no. Negotiations are not concluded successfully. Oh, damn. And over you then, Bay Ruth by wire service reporter also said in his opinion Henry Kissinger had been on American television too often during the last week. You know, mommy, this is getting serious, worried look on Dan Rathers faces beginning to look real.

You're doing fine, dear. Just work on that line so I don't have to coach you on it anymore. All right. Go ahead, feed me. I'll pretend that thing is the helicopter. Oh, good. Mr. President, what about the hostages? Well, we're doing everything we can to negotiate their freedom. Run. And did it again, didn't I? Yes, you did. You were trying to add live an answer. It's just clean, simple, short. We're doing everything we can. We're doing everything we can. Uh-huh. Maybe a hint of menace in the delivery? That you can add live. Just get a lock on the dialogue. What about your pledge during 1980 to retaliate, Mr. President? Damn it. We're out.

Now, there again, uh, all I can say about that is we're doing everything. Phone call for the president on secure line 33 able seven. Hello. Hello, Mr. President. Jimmy. Mr. President, I think Roslyn and I know better than anyone else. What you're going through right now. Well, Nancy and I appreciate that very much, Jimmy. Believe me. I just want you to know that you have our support and the support of all Americans. I even heard Jody's going to go on Brinkley tomorrow to say you're doing a good job. Well, it's, it's very nice. And, sir, if you ever need anything, yes, you're on the perfect place to get it. Good luck to you. Bye-bye.

What was that there? You look absolutely gray. That was the most humiliating phone conversation I've had to go through since Ron Jr. quit the ballet. Jimmy Carter was calling to give me his sympathy. Imagine, mommy, him sympathizing with me. Somehow, dear, it seems we might not have been in quite this fix if, if Mike were still here. Oh, now, but you know, I know we had our arguments, but don't you think he'd be making you seem more in control now? No, I don't know. Now, if I know Mike, he'd, he'd have had me dedicating a national yellow ribbon in the Rose Garden. Oh, by the way, mommy, what do you think of this as a stance? Crisis suppression. It takes in the whole terrorism thing and it kind of dominates it.

It sounds like Don's idea. Does it? Doesn't it? Is the president being held hostage? Or is he merely on some kind of work furlough plan? Next time, rehearsing for retaliation on Hellcat of the White House. First off, what is a marketing plan? It is a conceptualization of a program or product that formalizes the product's development. It covers every aspect of the product from its basic definition through the entire manufacturing and distribution process all the way to the customer. Take these plumbing supplies, for example.

Now, it may seem a long way from plumbing supplies to public broadcasting product lines, but a lot of what we do would apply to your situation. Let's talk about it for a few minutes. Now, do we go right from the plan to full-scale production? Absolutely not. We make up test lots of the product and pre-test. We find out how the product goes over with our constituents, the retailers, and consumers. Those results come back to the product communications group, and then we know whether we're ready for a full rollout or if we have to make any more changes. Seems to me that what we do is rather analogous to what commercial broadcasters do when they make pilot programs and test them on audiences, or when advertisers make test commercials. Does this happen in public broadcast? You know, I never dreamed that I'd become a fan of dark shadows, but because of New Jersey Network, I have. I watch the show every night, and I love it. Not only that, but I find myself tuning into the network more and more because, well, I find the programs can be entertaining and very provocative. I'm a member of the New Jersey Network, and I think you should be too.

Now, the network also offers some very nice, thank you gifts for your pledge. For instance, there's this T-shirt, which, well, I was quite tempted by that. And then there's this photograph over here of me. Oh, well, I'm not that big. You choose that. I chose this mug because, well, I drink coffee all the time. That's right. Coffee. So, it sounds like there's room for the typical public broadcaster to be someone who will at least follow his marketing disciplines and adds those disciplines to the operation of his station. I think that's very true. I think Mr. Peter said in his follow-up to his in search of excellence book. He talks about a large helping of the obvious. And the obvious is really what marketing and advertising and developing products are all about. Pricing for public broadcasters is really quite an issue.

It's not completely understood everywhere as you point out in your tape. And I wonder when you talk about experimentation. I wonder, would you counsel a public broadcaster to experiment a little bit with pricing? Or should he follow what the national leaders in public broadcasting have found to be successful? Well, I think there's probably a little bit of 50-50 there. The problem is, how do you discover what the public needs are? And how do you find out what the public wants you to do? The answer, of course, is research. Once those needs have been determined, you can apply a product, a promotion, timing, distribution, or pricing strategy to satisfy them. That's marketing. Pure and simple. For instance, a typical research statement for a public broadcaster might be, our new public affairs program, Meet the Mayor, could be scheduled at seven to eight p.m. Saturdays, 10 to 11 a.m. Sundays, or five to six p.m. Fridays. Which time period would our audience prefer?

Now, there are several things wrong with that objective statement. The most important thing is wrong is that it assumes that you're going to program Meet the Mayor. And you simply want to know what time? Now, come hell or high water, your audience is going to get Meet the Mayor. Even if you've even selected the times for them, all you want is final confirmation. Going back to basics for a minute, you have not determined that you'll be meeting a public need by presenting Meet the Mayor. You decided that the public needed to meet the mayor. And that, my friends, ain't marketing. Barnabas Collins and Tyson's victims are coming to his, you know what? I'm Jonathan Fried and I want to entice you into pledging money. You know, dark shadows is a unique example of television programming. And how often is uniqueness frowned upon this business? The people at New Jersey Network believe that dark shadows belong here, and I agree. But only your continued support can keep the legend of dark shadows alive.

Let them know that you agree by pledging now. Join New Jersey Network today and support uncommonly good television. What kind of research should you do? Well, there are two broad types, focus groups and surveys. Focus groups are very popular, particularly among the advertising community. Basically, focus groups are 60 to 90-minute private meetings with small groups of 10 or 12-meter women in an attempt to find out how a cross-section of the target group feels about a particular subject. I think also in public broadcasting, that certainly goes back to the comments I made before in regards to experimenting, giving the opportunity to develop a new programming idea. Certainly, focus groups would be a way to test that. I understand that WGBH in Boston, that their idea of a pledge for Yorgas came out of a focus group. And focus groups are so often a bargain if you design them carefully. You should realize, though, that focus groups can be kind of dangerous

and they should always be conducted by a professional market researcher. They're often held in a setting that permits one-way private viewing of the group in action. Some ad agencies videotape focus groups secretly and then study the content later on. Now, surveys, the other side of market research generally, come in lots of varieties but the main one is the old-fashioned man on the street interview, which today has a very scientific name. It's called a mall intercept because it's often given in a live and a shopping mall. You've always got to choose the location carefully, too. They're upscale malls and they're downscale malls. Once again, it's hostage time. And that means you're going to be spending even more hours than usual around the television set. But just because you're concerned about the fate of your fellow citizens held captive doesn't mean you're not going to be building an appetite bigger than a jumbo jetliner. So we caution you, don't let a hostage crisis become a sausage crisis, too.

Which is just our way of saying it might indeed be the better part of aller to keep plenty of those spicy, flavorful patties of ground and spice pour goodness from the famous farmer within easy reach. For not only does the farmer make a good casing for his smoke-hardy sausages, he also makes a good case for him. You see, most packets send their pygmy to the west coast in large manila envelopes via regular surface mail. But not offer in the farmer, he sends his hostage porcus out he alive and kills him off one by one locally only when his conditions are met. Then he smokes him slowly using not seeders of Lebanon, but native western wood. So there's no terror here, just terrific taste to accompany your watchful waiting. Next time you break free to go shopping, look for the face of the famous farmer and pick up the patties that won his fame. Then enjoy the same thing the Israelis will enjoy when they release their prisoners. No links, compliments of the famous farmer.

Half a world away, their men were captives of exotic maniacs. But for these women, waiting was only the beginning. You don't care about our husbands, you only care about yourself. How dare you, you don't know the meaning of the word. What word? All the tension, all the terror, all the heartbreak ripped from today's headlines and then gently packed back in. Don't you find yourself missing something? Of course. Don't you? We, we don't have to miss it. What? You're beautiful when you're terrified. They wrote the rollercoaster of emotions. Ladies, please, we've got a press conference to get through. And when it was through, they'd never be the same women again,

or even roughly similar women. Donna Mills, Suzanne Pleschette, Nell Carter, and Jane Cookon in an NDC world premiere movie, Hostage Wives. Let's all be there.

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Transcript

Series: The Hour of Power

Series: Le Show

Series: The Voice of America

Episode: 1984-10-01; 1985-02-10; 1985-02-17; 1985-03-03; 1985-03-17; 1985-03-24; 1985-03-31; 1985-04-14; 1985-04-21; 1985-04-28; 1985-05-05; 1985-05-26; 1985-06-02; 1985-06-23; 1985-06-30

Producing Organization: Century of Progress Productions

Contributing Organization: Century of Progress Productions (Santa Monica, California)

AAPB ID: cpb-aacip-97bfe68fedb

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Credits: Host: Shearer, Harry
Producing Organization: Century of Progress Productions
Writer: Shearer, Harry

AAPB Contributor Holdings: Century of Progress Productions
Identifier: cpb-aacip-5b40dc44411 (Filename)
Format: DAT

Citations: Chicago: “The Hour of Power; Le Show; The Voice of America; 1984-10-01; 1985-02-10; 1985-02-17; 1985-03-03; 1985-03-17; 1985-03-24; 1985-03-31; 1985-04-14; 1985-04-21; 1985-04-28; 1985-05-05; 1985-05-26; 1985-06-02; 1985-06-23; 1985-06-30 ,” 1985-03-03, Century of Progress Productions, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed May 10, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-97bfe68fedb.; MLA: “The Hour of Power; Le Show; The Voice of America; 1984-10-01; 1985-02-10; 1985-02-17; 1985-03-03; 1985-03-17; 1985-03-24; 1985-03-31; 1985-04-14; 1985-04-21; 1985-04-28; 1985-05-05; 1985-05-26; 1985-06-02; 1985-06-23; 1985-06-30 .” 1985-03-03. Century of Progress Productions, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. May 10, 2024. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-97bfe68fedb>.; APA: The Hour of Power; Le Show; The Voice of America; 1984-10-01; 1985-02-10; 1985-02-17; 1985-03-03; 1985-03-17; 1985-03-24; 1985-03-31; 1985-04-14; 1985-04-21; 1985-04-28; 1985-05-05; 1985-05-26; 1985-06-02; 1985-06-23; 1985-06-30 . Boston, MA: Century of Progress Productions, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-97bfe68fedb