An hour with Bob Schieffer & Frank DeFord

every year at the university of kansas hundreds of journalists at its william allen white day i'm kate mcintyre and today on kbr presents cbs reporter and correspondent bob schieffer later this hour we'll hear from sports journalist frank to ford who announced his retirement from npr last week to ford was honored at haiti is william allen white day back in two thousand and thirteen but first the national citation is awarded annually to a journalist who quote exemplifies the ideals of william allen white in service to his profession and his community the university of kansas a near the famed editor of the emporia does that on april twentieth two thousand seventeen this year's national citation winner was charlie rose who appears nightly on public television rose recently underwent heart surgery and was unable to attend william allen white day so accepting the award on his behalf was his friend and colleague bob schieffer schieffer has been a reporter and correspondent for more than sixty years having

worked for cbs news and face the nation he's won almost every award in broadcast journalism and is the author of several books his latest is overload finding truth in the delusion of news it comes out this fall he was joined on stage by university of kansas journalism student seth and perks let's get right into it you know you don't really want us and prerecord every administration says nixon are countless interviews stories and scandals what's some volunteer crew are something of six onto a well what's happening is on do you really want say that to get into that let me just say a word about charlie i was i was very honored to be asked to fill in for charlie charlie is a unique person in journalism he he is becoming a person that people want to interview

him and the reason for that is is there's two reasons charlie as a person a real integrity and charlie gibson people he interviews a chance to answer the questions that he and so that's become kind of a rare thing in journalism i think but charlie always does that and i think it does is a great thing to waste i think what we have now and why being a girl connected in the same sentence with charlie rose i think he's in good company and i think charlie rose is in excellent company to be in the same sentence of kansas university so thank you all for picking charlie you couldn't read a better dress and i'm happy to be here to represent you know i went on look back on my career in or whatever it was my life i've been doing this now since i was twenty years old and that paycheck every week for the last sixty years for doing something connected with

journalists including the three years i was in the air force were out blue the lsd the large steel vats i was i was the editor of the uk based newspaper at travis air force base in california and other journalism related jobs and i would just say this i when i look back at war the significant stories i covered i was there the assassination of president kennedy a covered watergate i later i went to vietnam and i moderated their pre presidential debates those those are the ideas she would put a robot on the resume what you've done those are the things that went there but when i think of art the things that journalism gave me an opportunity to to enjoy and one of the most fun things i've done in all the years i've been at cbs news's three weeks ago i think it was on sunday morning and did an interview with willie nelson really is eighty four years old he does one hundred shows the year he's written over a

thousand songs he's just put out is a hundred and can't tell there is still going strong and ice and people ask me this question so i actually i sit when you gonna quit when you going to retire and the city would allow one where he said all i do is quite often play a little music that why when i want to quit doing it wants so it's kind of been my philosophy i it on willie's new song in his new album his walk up again today still not they said we are on itunes and then and that's kind of my my my view of things when i talk to young people but what they want to journalism is a very important thing and hope you'll let me about that but the other part of it is i can't think of anything that i could have had more ongoing then they get to be a reporter get to go to places that we have been interviewing talk to the people at the head and that's what i

always say to students you know there's a lot of real pressure on young people these days too twice that make a success in other words make money in and i'd tell them don't worry about the court but they got something you really like to do you need to get good at it whether it's journalism or something else a success part will take care of itself and the other part that i try to stress to them is that your age you can start out in one direction and if it doesn't work out you can always change and try something else i mean when you need to start worrying about tiny changes when you get to be my age but to these students here at this go like your jackson the sun in your sky's way over here the son and my skies to overhear what you don't want to do is when the son and your skies over here say you know i really wish i had to try doing that what i really had a dream about what i thought i couldn't believe that you know i might've could've done if i just

drive so i really urge on people don't be afraid to stretch don't be afraid to follow your dream and most of all don't let anyone talk you out of your city and there are always people who will burst of people would tell me i can't do something and those people i used to think i to get even with them then i realize now they're not worth that you just don't think about when i think about the people who encouraged you along the way those who your real friends and those are the people you can uh huh and that country's needs you loved you walter cronkite and he was a mentor of yours only ones is that it has that mentor should continue newsrooms in the new markets today of imitating southern niger was a showman that rove's it does if you look for it and there are people who want to help but the great thing about water was it wanted to go around telling people how to

do their jobs he just did his job any said surgeon good example walter cronkite was the single most curious person i've ever known and that's why he was such a great editor he can always think of a question the people want in iran her one time six twenty five the news goes on and six thirty waterlogged uppermost copy and said how long as green as well and here's how long but walker always come up the question it's the wedding else broadcast an end it seems set such an example he was so enthusiastic about him to love it and he one time we were we were in london we just heard are pieces of the bbc studios you are going back to the hotel and a police car around us with a siren and i had never heard of human being on earth ever say this but the war room knocked on the window of the

canvas at all that core and only get an abortion and that there was just a car wreck in one of the world we can begin to appear just wouldn't mind boggling joking about that states would lead water what it was and people i think they came across people understood that water didn't think he was smarter than everybody else but walker had done his homework and water was always trying to find the answers in and to me that i mean that too i wanted to be when i was a young reporter would be waterfront in hour one and i still have people in it i think just doing your job and doing it right and be enthusiastic about it and it's actually steered show up on time that's also another very important part of a walker always did that that's what that's what

young young people without even realizing it that's influencing them because they're observing people and those of us who are of an age and always remember these kids are watching this and they're smart they're was sworn in and i was going say they know a lot more causes a lot more to know and i feel a responsibility to try to help them when i can speeding along the ministrations of the last campaign how does the coming out was that like this was a campaign that was on the line in the campaign that i can remember in my lifetime i mean this was a campaign i've never seen such an unusual campaign i mean this is a campaign where one candidate jeb bush goes out raises a hundred and fifty million dollars it had absolutely no impact this was a campaign where hillary clinton when i asked why she had taken the six hundred thousand dollars in an

speaking feasible that's what the order i mean wizard know why the disabling the tourists you're welcome two ways you could explain that i mean who would say what it was one of my favorite my favorite moment in this campaign the most unusual part of this campaign it was when john wayne and the speaker of the house said that ted cruz was i was was lucifer in the boy the devil worshippers society denied you'll find what we've never had anything like that we never had anything like that on a more serious way up we're in the midst of this technological revolution in this digital age that is not only just change the way we get our news with its heavy founding impact on our quarter i think

is profound as the invention of the printing press when i really sincerely believe that and we're right in the middle of it right now you think about the printing press and you know martin luther said that the printing press was god's biased extremists here and it caused a protestant reformation happened the counter reformation but we also had thirty years of religious wars before we leave society finally reached equilibrium we're not there we're in the midst of this thing we don't know how it's going to go finally come out but we know it is that it you know it's it's driving newspapers is we use a mobile out of business i think paper newspapers what will come to an end and probably may be in the next two years but it is also you know we're getting more information than we've ever had in any time

in the history of the world what are we are we wiser or are we just getting so much information we can process i think right now we this is so much information that we can't process it so it's not all good but if it is good to hear some great things happen here but there are also some things that you know for one thing now the nuts can find one and that that itself presents certain problems what it means and background we had we had in his campaign anne and now we have a trump presidency and i mean i'll just cut to the chase here i think i think what concerns me right now is is the credibility of the white house and credibility of of the office of the president you know this is where we live in very very dangerous times perhaps as dangerous as specific instance maybe the cuban missile crisis it back in there and when the president of the united states comes on television we

want to be able to believe what he tells him i think that is a very important number one for national security and and also for the reassurance of the american people and i mean when we have this thing what we had the other day we were talking about sending this or a lot of naval vessel you say to the shores of north korea won in the birthplace of the united states navy is not used that word our motto in about two hundred years before seinfeld and then when we find out that not only were the ships not going to the shores of north korea but were three thousand five hundred miles away going in the opposite direction and then we hear the white house spokesman to come out the next day and say well actually we didn't mislead anyone you just have to listen carefully to what they say and to me that that poses a certain danger of a serious danger and i think i win i

would like it if the president could kind of the light on some of these tweaks sometimes until he can come to check it out and see if in fact their true i mean i thought it was interesting you know the day kellyanne conway who who coined the phrase facts was saying that the reporting coming out of the white house was not fact based and i think if you go back and look at the reporting of recent weeks probably the reporting is more fact based in some of the statements that have been coming up from from the president and the president's own spokesman but these these are things that one hopes that they will shake out we all want this president to be successful because we all want the united states of america to be successful what right now they're there's a subtle like the ordination and confucian part of that is because at this point only the secretary of defense is the only ranking official at the pentagon has

now been going for oh it's a general mattis is sectarian differences conduct camping out over there by cell he's got the uniform military but he doesn't need any in the surrounding and then you go to the state department and at the words were they don't have a military services still in place here in a discharge so many and you have a secretary defense i think a very smart and intelligent man but who has not been in government before an end is sometimes seems unfamiliar with the process and i think the president himself charitably want to say he is strikingly familiar with a lot of processes about the government all right so i'm hoping all this kind of levels out but right now there seems to be considerable chaos and i don't think that many americans would you know journalists during the election during his time as you know so has a voice and

aviv similar feelings that they're saying in america because he said was a house were selection was our selection of her lifetime i think it will and i still believe but i ran out because he said it for the younger generations become drinking game that every time that you were chosen say that summer selection a lifetime shot and then you know i'll hit toy that luckily we have designated driver i thought wasn't well as you know russell's i come out a moment and center in a different dimension which is never came out because he had kept going but was it like to be the voice for so many people who don't want to express how that felt have these feelings and say these things toward some candidates towards a well campaigner drug administration i think i'm in and the trial people obviously took great exception to a lot that we didn't even after he was selected we had mr bannon saying it was time for the for the press to

sit down and shut up but there were not the opposition party that to me represented total misunderstanding of the role of the press and the readers of the one point i'd like to if you remember anything else i say and eighty one and disagree with everything i say that's fine too with just remember this the difference that in a totalitarian society and democracy is this in totalitarian society there is only one source of news one source of information in there is that in a democracy like ours citizens get it independently gathered at great information and that's what comes from the press that they can compare to the government's version of events and then decide what to do about it and that's what our role is that's what the founders intended for us to do we are they are to present an

alternative to the government's version of her dance and then people can say well it's totally wrong or maybe it's half right where the garments entirely right that's one thing it's the role of the government to run the government it's the role of the press to ask questions about what the government is doing politicians present a message our role is to question that message and determine if in fact it's true and it's not to report that i don't know any reporter who thinks that we are some sort of opposition party no one thinks that our role is simply to ask questions and to keep asking questions until we get answers we're not always going to be the most popular person in the wrong but that is what the founders intended when they when they invented this wonderful system of government that we head and i think that's what we're

seeing it's b president trump before he was president of hissing sometimes i have the first time i interviewed him was about thirty years ago when he on there was a great story of the city of new york it's been eleven million dollars and could not get the ice to freeze over and that skating rink in central park and trump who is the young developer came along and said let me have a job i'll get it done and in three months he had the ice frozen he had people skating in central park and he was a great story was a story about how sometimes you know private enterprise can trample over government bureaucracy and all of that added that's daringly love that accent ever interviews with him over the years and sometimes he likes me and sometimes he does and outboard live with that it's not a part of what

we do but he is generally it depends on what kind of a movie scene he's he's generally a very interesting interview but he is first and foremost a roasted and i think you just have to not only met him a disparaging way but you have to remember that he says and all his life he has been saying whatever it took a close at the end that's not how you can actually spread of the president's job is to persuade the president the presidency is a place of leadership it's not a place to rent the president has a hiring managers were on the place and i think what what president trump i think what he's having problems with these he is always run his business is is kind of a mom and pop operation mama papa big scale but he didn't delegate very much it was all alone amongst the family and i think now he's trying to figure out how to put that mall in place to run the government and

i'm not sure that model is going to work but i think that's one of the reason you're seeing someone gymnasium finding a jury that going on well within the administration has to who's going to come out on top to me maybe i was demeaning godfather movies but my money's on the family i think in the end they will be his courses and going after trump her first demonstration as a someone that you really want to interview or store that you would love to cover yeah i've had like interviewed paul ryan had this fall i think he says fires and i think you be a lot of fun to talk to him and the only of archived interview president probably call me up and said well we're giving an interview on michael i mean i mean that's what reporters do you do you go to find out and one of the biggest mistake that that young reporters my fate is that they're sometimes reluctant to ask questions

because they tangle with i assume that question you'll think of bell the biggest mistakes that i've ever made years when i assumed that i knew what the person i was interviewing with them so that's that's the second they met reporters you never assume you know what the answer you're gonna get you may think you have a pretty good idea of which you've ever assumed because when you do that's that's when the next person that comes along scripture and so i always we advise young reporters you never be afraid to ask because if they turned on recess a question and never assume you know what the answer is going to be was there a moment that you've been on live tv and something embarrassing has happened to you or someone else or a story that you've come across i think i didn't tell the story is out telling it all over at my in

dallas with us yes there was that when the starr report came out about monica lewinsky and and bill clinton and we got a low scoop on you know we got we got the report from a congressman and i was up on the hill and we went on live on television and the congressman would point but he would let us see where achebe in the xerox machine one page at a time so we set up a little bucket brigade an end these gifts when you know passes same page about page and they they're said to be a mary hager who is now the producer of isolation and was quite young in those days and i was working at my producer of on capitol hill she was sitting down on the floor and she would just glance at it and then been handed up to me and so i'm on live television live television and then and i'm breathing in and they made this thing and i look around and i mean i say indiana and then they are presented in any other cities

we've looked at this for a minute and then i went back and then they had sex of a kind we're this phrase came into my life i didn't know where it came from but he just kind of came out of my mouth and in the us there were there was a certain former sec said i didn't know if you could say that live on television nobody had ever said it live on television before but anyway out that not knowing what to say or do that and i think that will probably be it but then he mentioned earlier real journalist to find a circus style no copy that and do you think that curly with an illustration with everything going on this and so many media outlets and how to meet continue to do that in the

well you know what i think i think we may see a renaissance of investigative journalism as there's nothing like a really good story to bring out the best in journalism i'm aware that woodward and bernstein come from you know i mean here's the two kids neither one of mad ever said in the white house and in fact in this an interesting little fact that i didn't realize it throughout the entire watergate story woodward and bernstein never once attended a white house briefing they were they were doing the old fashioned kind of journalism at night waiting to be born that whole man knocking on the wall in and asking them questions and it was good i think the big lesson for us there i mean you know when the white house member they would roll list of well we might not have the briefings that we might have across the street and my answer was planned ahead you know i had the briefings where we want to and we'll send somebody where everyone holding but you're not going to reduce the intensity of our scrutiny by saying we can come to the white house

briefing i mean somebody said you can come draw white house briefing i might say what is second prize i mean thats not on my bucket let's not have been around here for a long time but you know what we have to do is just keep focused on what we did in that is just seen as he watched don't be arrogant about it we have always remember we should never leave the impression that where the town hall was the more that we're there are reversible morality we're not we're just simply their death as the people in power why they do what they do and andy give us an explanation so we can explain all these and watched as well you're so welcome and thank you over and you just heard cbs newsman bob schieffer along with

university of kansas journalism student jackson curtis they spoke april twentieth two thousand seventeen at woodruff auditorium at the university of kansas as part of katie is william allen white day schieffer was accepting the william allen white national citation on behalf of his friend and colleague charlie rose who was unable to attend due to recent surgery i'm kate mcintyre you're listening to k pr prisons on kansas public radio if you missed last week's kbr present a community conversation on concealed weapons on college campuses with kbr news director jay shafer it's now archived at our website go to k pr that kay you died edu slash news there you can find most previous k pr presents programs including last month's special a nation engaged a discussion at the truman presidential library and museum in independence missouri

on how much power should the president any president have again that at k pr that k u dot edu under news and k pr presents for the rest of this hour we'll hear from another honoree out william allen white day sports journalist frank to ford won the national citation in two thousand thirteen the first and only sports writer to do so the ford recently announced his retirement after thirty seven years on npr's morning edition he is the author of eighteen books his most recent was over time my life as a sportswriter his comments were originally broadcast on kansas public radio on march twenty fourth two thousand thirteen and so a lot of on the servers to imagine our wives one hundred and forty fifth birthday so gratified to see this extraordinary distinction but if i imagine that i'm as to why i

was different and ends almost every respect i think that the gemini be very dubious about much much moisture today first of all i am the first journalists ever to be so honored and then at the same time mr white wrote in his autobiography athletics did not interest me even remotely you are the average so much about this when self doubt is not ever that mr white was a genuine small town in western i'm a big city slicker from the east he was a newspaperman i come mostly from magazines it was a devout republican stalwarts democrat they were short and fat i'm tall and skinny and there is the one terrible terribly tragic image that we have that sadly we both lost our beloved daughters when they were were children and happily though this too of thousands of the road an awful lot of things a

lot of stuff about a lot of stuff so there is that the connection and love isn't it a team that visits as you own almost like gabe instantly well known outside of kansas for his famous editorial what's the other witnesses in nineteen sixty seven it became instantly well known within the state of wyoming or applied for writing in a national magazine that became huge cheerleaders with the best living in the clutch so that they had to return to be celebrated again in kansas amanda do no better than to be associated with beautiful day for women and william allen widen still remains such an iconic role for journalists and i do appreciate it

the first person to receive this has devoted most of my dream was to work for sports writing as a sports writer i've always been cynical on one somewhere wins an award like the most valuable player and then he makes a big modest deal of the law could not have done this without the help of my teammates please please a not so humble this week's episode of course but with writers all crying out believe and sincere in saying it i feel that this art form he does recognize it probably played on sports journalism which i believe sometimes is too often overlooked but i understand that as jimmy cannon was truly grades which are wonderful man of words in common ones where the toy

shop of the profession and that's true what we cover for the most part is barred from having gains serious stuff and that's fair enough inevitably without getting a highfalutin about the sports is important cultural the fact it is found in every society throughout human history that must mean something yes religion and sex are also found in every culture i would rate sports quite so why is that yes to it it does it does allow sports writing elegy to be presumed to be somehow are different then shall we say we'll write it it didn't occur to me until very recently in my life the alternate title is ending injury was only sportswriter as written in one where i kind of additional fully in my memoir i'm a fiction please the

border two words movie two words editorial writer war correspondent in and sports editor two words of sportswriter is called join you just simply shut the rate but now writer and subject that may also be a certain amount of supply here because i will acknowledge that it's a dirty little secret that sports writing really is the easiest writing in the whole drama as just as full of drama climax somebody wins somebody loses glamour entertainment era technology schumer heroes and heroes are invariably young and callow reading words put in her mouth which is the dream of every journalist oh

no we are not without our faults we've come some time is that the farm show for the trees first despite the fact that it had that in the recent past we do things in america under the mine as most egregiously incorrect first no matter how hard we looked there were not as we promised the world any weapons of mass destruction and second despite how hard we put writers to work there were all sorts of performance enhancing drugs in baseball and all other sports that's a shame we think as a sportswriter even most recently and being stunned to discover that men and boys important

spring football what a shock of course of the years as visible to us all growth is defense the doctors as well as a bureau of which is that one would know and it was so patently clear how to do reform and games we were conflicted one good example taylor branch magnificent reporter who won the pulitzer prize for writing about martin luther king didn't support strong enough to completely on the us and syria later the athletic association that this is not the forum for maybe get into my feelings about the ncaa and what under girds have which amateurism which is a fraud and evil but the point is just embarrassing point is that since mr batt as revelations

imaginations varney follow and artists learn when women who cover that came to play and instead go on about their business beautifully covering the games the games and never mind even mentioning the hypocritical cartel that that runs and so in that way and so in famously but nobody wants to get nobody wants to read in the same way about football players were having their brains it's this is a size of a sidewalk i'm the man so much about sports writing modern day what's right is the overwhelming dependence upon statistics never better for words sports does lend itself so well the story only love and war and fairytales meant for the digital age i suppose and there is even sport's embrace of all of those

with other sports and war and sports and there are very tense in sports recently to say facey stories are overwhelming instead by just passionless numbers that that intelligence overindulgence of numbers aside i do believe that we as calm as they say in was racing it we've called a distance brown when i entered the profession which which i should say i have no real intention of remaining in it for a long time it's another example of bell life does take you sometimes by the smugglers the scuffle and that came into the profession what journalism was not look the part with the greatest of respect the rioters who are on the take even the best and most honest serve morris chamber of commerce

types of needed as you're still good reason in san diego that he even named a stadium for a beloved sports for the rack writers dearly loved sports blue note that office that affection for some reason probably because long ago we thought that that would somehow make our subject more important is we wrote about it in an offense your language sports writing tended toward the florida and the world cocoa what one critic called like a bad dream by sir walter scott i'm her and likewise we've always that i'm from areas sympathetic homers and this is especially true with the big cities and the major league professional teams and the borders to cover the teams were all too often more like er insistence that work for years

we were of course all men part of that was really sure of sheer massage i think a lot of it was obligated by my curiosity about the fashion which is alone in the united states that we often interviews the people we were talking to when they were bought may now let me tell you it takes a while to get used to in my experience there were some conversations there are wonderful pictures when both parties are close and there's someone with both parties or one of the embassies is just something that you have nothing in her experience but never mind we introduced modestly to our conversations unbearable

art lyle out for emails and a lot of grief when i supposed to get even that women into the prescott so altogether yes we're a much more progressive body of workers that we were when i stumbled into this profession so many years ago or course so much happened that will hold your horse in the past few years i was very surprised and in reading mr white's memoirs that he made a point of how much news that changed and his life the course of all he was a newspaper that i had the feeling much of that once mr martin taylor and that is his wine and try to pressure the late nineteenth century but never held a lot happened around six seven decades they just seem to be their newsprint that came up on

the phone a bomb the torch by some labor boy who miraculously appeared out of the blue on a bicycle but it was ultimately beijing i was in college i said have lived by myself or my college newspaper the first real job as a copy boy in the old bulldog or evening sun newspaper is health and much my spare time when i was not answering cause a copy over and copy down what was to sit in the corner putting together poppy but once all the pages of court who ever remembers harvey and i'm sure the copy boys had made those buckets for megan himself generations before in that way it just seemed that the longest day

i was absolutely a high have the dubious honor of being the editor of words great newspaper experience in this nation i'm a certain at this point that this is the only time in my life as a young writer and still as alive full truth and nail we all generally subscribe to what general sherman say about the profession when a male is too lazy to work and through towering steel it becomes a newspaper and then one day i suddenly was a newspaper ad is the editor of america's first and only sports deliver that we

listed eighteen months last hundred and fifteen that's hard to do without boring you with the details we were terrific editorial product the winner is when it came to commerce sensory nobody had figured out ahead of time how much it cost to deliver newspapers to people's houses which is where they'd expected and well i woke up in the morning mayor boy is on bicycles about why that trade anymore and in nineteen ninety it was twenty years ago and what amazes me though is that people still don't know oh i have the international event on back then you didn't write for the internet and what i always says sex is you know women great for the internet but the internet were not great for us because of course the problem is that the internet kills newspapers but i just can't say

it's the same as people always asking how the internet has changed sports as if somehow were different from the rest of those dna surely the most important that's in communications is mr mubarak invention i don't think that sports' been affected in a unique batch of it is that because they keep score of it because it's so simple because his transparent and the advantage in sport better than most topics we can be more easily distort forty years ago today a story and then the wars laurel is being surveyed by what you call them pseudo of apps and set up most abortions that there are only two things that will be left there were related real crime in sports this was before oj simpson and then lance armstrong was divorced

with the ticket price was i really the changes are also have affected us in sports or pretty much like everybody else the beauty i'll respect and the magazine right on down so the ed sullivan show for those of you may remember that it was always displayed we sell newspapers william allen white what we always used to say that old joke what's often why they had and read all over and the rover is that is that is the key part all sorts of different things over and revise and if you weren't interested in in a certain subject you'd least at the first glance that page before you might decide to turn into another just it's your images that when ed sullivan brought up an opera diva you at least listen to or until senior when sixty one

child maybe you'll learn to appreciate opera oh in the board this has always been the same duty of ovens to bits and pieces of everything william allen white even his supporters that was another famous writer another pulitzer prize winner who graduated from michigan recently and i'm like mr white was known for expressing the chancellor the mood of love of the midwest that was way to manage the playwright a man who about it was torture versus that mr white was comfortable with everything in his life but in mr dinges most famous work for which he won the violent on broadway

play begins in a small kansas town like these delights in korea with that newspaper boy on the bicycle deliveries in the morning that begins to kansas today the midwest at the all american day vision judy america with a newspaper on the npr ask itself some almost too much so carter sisters there on stage on which absolutely beautiful but ultimately jurors didn't know that and the other sister playing the bright inquisitive have the boy shut the paper on the porch and the plain sister nelly the trees and she sits down the porcelain chair and starts to go through the pages black life unravel and that's illegal

that starts that issue show live show what military might have stumbled a very unusual it would have been nearly one of the artists did they are suspect she would have a vibe that out there on the swing i'm going to go i'm going to get it at the bar website and how a much admired learn more about art for much of the rest of the world what would testify today even sports there is also hard process that dominates so selective i think ironically the broadband in many respects where the issue is more direct and the process of political wrangling has been devalued by jews

every play sports to such an extent that even though we may use that we're now more than ever as we communicate by e mail it's a marbled that we employ schon lange which i worry that we're creating a large college educated people yes but for those who might be for option a militarized which is to say that they learn to me that they don't really choose not too extreme texting is not right now the best writing this adoption and sports writing sometimes can be downright was texting is the literary equivalent of air as emma those of us in journalism lovable old quote that quote unquote again and again thomas jefferson's famous remark word left for me to decide

whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspaper that a government i should not hesitate to prefer the latter all already for it thank you so much is mr jeffers but in fact we don't often mentions that the thought was followed by a lot of the survivors and included but i should mean that every man should receive these papers and be capable of creating jobs in this audience event education first with mormons five we are now more allegedly educated than ever before and it gives us how high school educations a century ago that figure was only six percent twenty five percent have a baccalaureate degree day in america but this week shows off letters say what will what the solace education so the end of the day yes

sports writing going to work with lots of people love sports and want to know more more about and i don't worry about the future of were trying for that matter or about this for the future of before tree will be fine however i do worry as i believe way of ellen why would i worry about that inquisitive young girl sitting on the porch when somewhere in a small town in kansas and that doesn't come by a new mortgage on the porch so for all the information that's how overwhelming us and in some respects we don't know yet what use the beach us photos on the front porch information is so much more conveniently but ironically we have to work

harder to educate ourselves a challenge a challenge is journalist of the future is going to be just like how to inform you but how to make people more curious again other stuff not as yogi berra and then the words of sportswriter speak to be without a citation now the missoula are tooling down the road going to invent a new jersey a few years ago and soon began to get worried and ross yale he said they were making such good time rather that that is my scripture i going to stop now but in a few minutes that we have left i would welcome having some question fuel but as a very much the list

for listening to sportswriter frank before on kansas public radio thank you for coming to corporations with by mail one are professional tennis players randomly tested first performance enhancing substances and secondly in collegiate and professional basketball for the baskets be racist wealthy it was suggested that two years of the answers are dying seven people would still people everybody loves it done and i'll do it as the owners are easily i'm curious in your assessment of the whole situation from a journalist pointed you with an anti tail and whether journalists were doing their job i think everybody was just so easily

this is the story about a notre dame didn't have the make believe girlfriend or something just so fantastic you do you don't know it just i would have doubted that because for eighteen months as beautiful girl was in touch with him and he never made any effort to see her and it was extraordinary to me is a man this is this beautiful woman saying i love you i do or you and you wouldn't go see her so maybe if i'd done a story i would have been on their way but a simple thing was so crazy that that that nobody stopped and said this can't be your question a little vision something as large as opposed to punish boeing say it's about playing

the puzzle vince thank you also you've just heard sports journalist frank to ford from the two thousand thirteen william allen white day at the university of kansas to ford was the first and only sports writer to win the prestigious award honoring an american journalist the ford recently announced his retirement after thirty seven years on npr's morning edition you can hear his final npr commentary as well as several stories about his career at npr dot org before that we heard from this year's william allen white day with cbs newsman bob schieffer schieffer accepted the two thousand seventy national citation on behalf of his friend and colleague charlie rose i'm j mcintyre kbr presents is a production of kansas public radio at the university of kansas