Ear on Chicago; Unidentified

This is Hugh Hill speaking to you from aboard the Mason, a fishing boat which is about ready to leave Waukegan Harbor on the far north side of the city of Chicago. We're going to talk now to John Otto, who is one of the gentlemen, who has been much publicized as one of the pioneers among the people who are looking for the unidentified flying objects and try to identify them. John, what's the purpose of this trip? The purpose of this trip, Hugh, is to try to bring to the attention of the people that flying saucers are a reality. That we do have an interplanetary craft visiting this earth, various types of them, and that the confusion that is to rife within the whole field of the research can be removed. I say could because we have no promises of what will take place tonight. We have made an appeal to these interplanetary visitors to at least give us some recognition. And in their recognition to us, we know they're there. We've seen them many times, many of us as researchers, many of the enthusiasts have seen many flying craft that we call flying saucers. Well now what shape are they in, John? Well we have

various types, we have the saucer type shape, which is really a disc or discoid, and we have the cigar shape craft. These are the two prime types that we are acquainted with. What about land craft? Land craft, we have evidences indicating that the visitors have from time to time used on our planet, a means of propulsion, which is literally collision proof. We have had observers see automobiles literally without wheels on them traveling across the surface of our planet without touching it at tremendous rates of speed. Well now John, where do they come from and what do they look like? Well the people have such heal in many instances of contact, which of course we don't profess at this time, but we're attempting to do. The people are very human. They look very human and they act very human. John, what are our chances of seeing some tonight, some flying saucers or cigars or whatever we might see? I would say heal that the chances are very good. We,

as I said it before, we can't promise anything. All we can say is that we have made an appeal. A public appeal, as you well know, over a national broadcasting system, one of our national systems, and we made this appeal on a request of some very prominent people. These requests have been answered from time to time with coded answers, and we feel that if they answer this appeal tonight as they have our requests for messages, it is quite possible that the people aboard this boat tonight may see something very important. Now here is Mr. Mason, who is the owner of this boat, and a member of this group who is going in search of the interplanetary visitors. Tell us something about this trip, Mr. Mason. Well, I asked the boys to go out in the lake in our boat because I thought they had a better chance of contacting the flying saucer out in the lake that they have in the land because there would be more quiet, and as they say that these flying saucer visitors, they don't want too many people

around, so I thought the most logical spot to go to and trying to contact them, I think it is out in the lake. That's why I volunteer with my boat. Well, you have about 50 people aboard the two boats here now, you don't think that's too many for these visitors to be bothered with? No, no, no, because now we are on the top of the deck, when we go out in the lake, most of us would be inside the boat, so it wouldn't be visible, so just be a few of us up here. Yes, yes, yes. What's the name of your other boat? De Margarita W. There's a star. Moving north. Star. Moving north. Apparently, they say something up there, Mr. Mason. Come over here, John, and tell me about death. Can you traveling up there? Yes, I do. Can you see that? Kind of a red star -like object? Yes. You see it moving? Yes. You see the object? Yes. Not to get too excited, but that object is rather strange. It is not blinking. We don't have a standard navigation light. We do not have an afterburner. It's moving effortlessly, and we have no sound. Of course, the sound of this engine here will block out most

of anything you might hear. It may be a craft, but don't get excited because we see a light in the sky. That's not any of us get excited because there's a light here in the sky. Well, how can we ever establish the fact that it may be a flying saucer? If that craft was to approach close enough in Haver, or give us some maneuvers at our request, particularly over the light beam transmitter later on on location, if something like that gave us some maneuver to our request over the light beam transmitter, it is quite possible that this could be a craft. We still wouldn't know until it came close enough to observe it. What we're about ready to leave, the object that they did see was certainly very visible, and as a reporter, I must say, that it looked like an aircraft, but as John pointed out, there were no blinking lights, and there was no visibility of an afterburner. You still see it? Yes, I can still see it. Here are the skippers of the ship, Peter Greek. Yeah, the Margarita W. And this is the skipper of Nathan, Joe Johnson. Joe Johnson. Joe Johnson. Joe Johnson. Joe Johnson. And you're a skipper of

the ship here that we're on now. That's right. Of the Mason in here. Margarita W. Margarita W. Peter Greek. That's right. Okay, boys. You're about ready to shove off? All right. Yeah. Just be careful. All right. Let's shove off, Pete. Let's go out there. We got it. Well, we'll be moving out in just a second, and the next time we'll be talking to you is when we're out on Lake Michigan. We're now over to the port side of this fishing vessel. And we're going to talk once again to John Otto. John is the spokesman for the group and has had many occasions. I wish to try to contact some visitors from outer space. John, first of all, let me ask you. I didn't ask you before. Have you ever been able to actually contact any of them yourself? That is, have you seen any? Yes. We're speaking now of communications, Hugh. And which we're using in mechanical medium for contacting an intelligence that we know as human. We had tried for a number of years to duplicate the German methods of light beam transmission. And in

doing so, in utilizing it for this application, after about a year's time of playing with it, playing with our equipment, such as this equipment you see right here, this portable unit is about the most efficient to date because we can use it almost anywhere. If we found we were getting a pattern of activity, not at all times, but we were getting a pattern of activity that definitely was not just random noise. All right, now John, let's take a look at your equipment here. First of all, you have here a light beam transmitter, which is encased in a red case, and a spotlight out on front of the case looks something like the lights that are used, for example, by firemen, when they go into a building. Now, is this your transmitter? Yes, this is the transmitter. In fact, we utilize these, both you, these units have been adapted, one as a receiver and one as a transmitter. The transmitter, the juicy here, is a very simple lighting arrangement in which we modulate with, through the microphone, we modulate with the resistance unit. And the resistance, when I speak on the unit, when

I speak right now, which I'll show you, I'll speak on this microphone, and you will see the unit dimming and brightening. Yes it is. You can see that move and the light fluctuate. This is actually my voice going out over that light beam transmission. And we're reaching up now about 25 to 30 miles in space. Now, do you have a receiver? The receiver unit that we have here is a photo cell for picking up of these light beam units, or light beam waves, we can call them for simplification terms. And it's just like water coming through a pipe. When this light beam receiver, photo cell is exposed to that light beam that is transmitting a message. It will pick that message up, feed it into a little amplifier we have in here, which is actually miniature radio set. We'll shield it so we don't get radio or RF into it. Only the light beam. Only the light beam. And then it transduces it. Or it boils it down in simple language. It comes right back out to us like over the telephone. We're getting the actual voice

that has been modulated from the transmitter. In English. In English, naturally. And you'd be getting it over those headsets you have on now. Now, this way you have found we have found a number of different languages have been used from time to time. And we have also found that we have had a lot of coded data coming in, in which they seem that they haven't been ready to actually talk with us in our own language freely, like we were when I were talking now. Why? Some day they will, John. Some day we feel that the people, the young people that are in board this boat tonight, will in the very near future we feel we'll have an interplanetary union and we'll be able to talk intelligently between and conversely with these people. Okay, John. I will wait now for a while until you get ready to transmit. The skipper of the boat has now stopped the engines. Or at least slowed them down. And John Otto here has been flashing his transmitter. I think he's just sort of testing it out. A few moments ago they were talking about killing the engines. And I think they will. Are you

about ready to transmit, John? When the engine stopped, then we transmit a 10 o 'clock sharp, which is 9 o 'clock central standard time. That's the time you told them that you would transmit. Precisely. Actually, we won't transmit at that precise moment. The other boat, the boat with the observers on over there, will light three flares. And after the three flares are lit, and when they burn out, then we will transmit here. We've got a couple of minutes yet, Dan. Roughly. Alright, we'll wait for just a second, Dan. I want everyone, if they would please, keep quiet. We have a light beam receiver in use. And if the craft itself that we anticipate does not come in, we still want to hear if we get a light beam transmission. The unit is not the biggest in the world. And you folks, if you're talking with spring and chin wagging, we're not going to be able to hear what comes over this receiver. So if you please, let's have quiet. Lights out. We're about three miles offshore. About three miles offshore. Very calm. The lake is just like a sheet of glass.

It's a very clear night. Stars bright. High in the heavens. Turn that stern light out, please. The fishing boat is just drifting now. The second boat is about five boat lengths away. About five boat lengths away. Far off in the distance we can see the lights of Waukeken, the city of Waukeken. Light the flows. The flares are being lit on the Marguerita W. There they go. The Marguerita W is about five boat lengths away. The flares are lit one on one end of the fishing vessel and one on the other end. John Otto instructed them on Easter Sunday morning that he would try and contact them at precisely nine pm central standard time, which of course is ten pm central daylight. Far off in the distance

is an airplane. Beautiful. Did you see that? No, I didn't. Almost gorgeous sight of it could have been meat here, but it was terrific. Beautiful color. Toward the stern of the boat. All right, quiet folks. The flares are lit so they got our signal. Interplanetary visitors. This is John Otto calling at approximately ten -fifteen. We're standing by and we're awaiting your signal. We assume that you have followed very closely the stages we have set it. And we very earnestly request that you comply in some manner to this appeal. All of the people aboard this boat, we feel well assured, are of the same opinion. They sincerely desire an interplanetary union. Over and out.

That slight noise you're hearing is coming from John Otto's earphone. He has a pair of headsets on and I'm putting the microphone right up by one of the headsets and you can hear it, listen. Now just what is that John? The activity is not full random. However, it hasn't had enough pattern to be considered anything exciting. There have been several seemingly attempts to modulate into this, a carrier, to catch into this at several times tonight. The headset is right off your receiver, isn't it? That's right, it's coming right off the receiver. There are very traces, fine traces, if you'll hold it very still with your microphone there. I'd like you to record this because they're very fine traces of voice. Listen to them carefully.

I'd like to ask everybody at this time, each in his own way, each to his own faith, to offer his own silent little prayer for what we are attempting to do. Hello, space visitors. Hello, space visitors. Do you read this signal? If you read this signal from this boat, the Maython, I ask you if you will to comply with our appeal. If you are unable for any specific reason not to comply, if you please give us a visible or an audible acknowledgement at this time, over and

out. Once again I'll hold the microphone up to John Otto's earphone. I'd like to draw the attention, folks, this boat is doing an awful lot of rocking for the moment. More than it has been doing all night. Right street, right angles to the comet. I do see it. What is it you see, John? A very fine light streak at right angles to the comet, seemingly horizontal. Do you notice it? Yes, I do. A very faint light streak. There are a number of people on the boat, and most of them are up on topside now. Everyone is looking up into the sky.

Nothing of any consequence has been seen. The only thing that has been mentioned really is that milky white streak coming out from the comet. And there are two meteors. Two meteors, yes. Three, I think there was one on the bow that I missed, but soon. You think there might be some significance into the meteors that we, at some of us have seen? Yes, it could be. We have evidence indicating that some of these, particularly when we have used light beam transmitter activity, we often see like a shower of meteors. They aren't really meteors, but it appears to be a shower of meteors from time to time. You mentioned a heavier swell in the lake a little while ago, John. Do you see any significance in that at all? Possibly so. If the visitors themselves happen to be upstairs there, and trying to actually get a range on this boat here, it is quite possible that magnetic influences could create a ground swell, like we felt there several times. We have noticed it. Not knowing these

waters, myself personally, I don't know the nature of them, and it's possible that these slight swells come up periodically like that. I'd like to ask you to hold your microphone up to this receiver unit now. There's some more activities right up there. Hold it tight to my hand. Okay, move in the transmit once more. Go right ahead then, we'll listen in. Each time he throws that switch, a beam of light is slashed into the sky. Now you'll turn it on just a moment in and transmit. Hello, space visitors and friends. We're standing by, it is now 1040. It is now 1040. The only appreciable activity we have seen is what can be considered as meteor activity. With one possible acknowledgement shortly after the flares were lit toward the stern of

the boat. Would you give us a signal of some sort acknowledging this contact attempt? John has now turned off his transmitter. We'll wait for just a few moments until he hears something different or perhaps someone sees something. Just a moment ago, John Otto spotted something off there near that comet, and he thinks that it might have been something, John. It appeared very much like there was something activity that was not star body or normal heavenly body. I drew the audience attention to it, and then we got some activity. It was noticed by putting everybody on board. I believe that we can consider we have received a trifling singular signal. I will notify them now on the transmitter that we feel that we have received at least a signal. Let's ask for another one. Hello space visitors. Hello

space visitors. Over towards the comet, which appears to me to be approximately northeast by north. There was some activity that we believed to have been a visible acknowledgement of some sort. Would you please acknowledge once more in the direction of the comet, in the direction of the comet, from our position and from the position of Joaquigan, in the direction of the comet, if you would please give us another slight activity? All right, he's turned off his transmitter now. I'll stop talking. Everyone's looking towards the comet. Let's listen. A slight activity with a pattern on the receiver unit. Please observe the star that appears to be directly beneath the comet in actually in its line of travel. Observe that one for a few moments. May I

see through your binoculars, please? I'd like to draw your attention to something that has been told me at this moment. This is a rather normalist to this field of communication attempt. Over here to our south, you will see another seemingly cloud effect in a horizontal position. Very, very definite lighting effect in the heavens. Very definite lighting effect. I'd like to draw the attention of everybody on board boat to observe these little anomalies in our heavens. That are not normal. On one such attempt as this out west, the whole northwest horizon lit up as if an atomic bomb had been fired. The party present became frightened and did not want to remain for the landing which appeared to be quite evident of a craft that evening. Hello space visitors. The party on this boat has been extremely patient and very cooperative.

We thank all of them. We thank you for what effort you may have attempted that was not visible to us at this time. And we will remain another 10 minutes on location and then head back toward Waukegan. The gentleman here from Detroit by the name of Mr. May Day. I wonder if I could talk to him in a John we think would interfere with anything. You said a very interesting thing a moment ago Mr. May Day about someone who had attempted this same sort of thing once before. Yes, Mr. Mrs. Reeve who are here with us tonight, they are here themselves. Mrs. Reeve, why don't you just mention something? Is this the party here? Yes, this is Mrs. Bryant Reeve from Cleveland, then who is part of our originally Detroit flying saucer group. And who have just written a book called the Flying saucer Pilgrimage. I see, well let me turn around here and talk to Mrs. Reeve. I understand you were on a group mission attempting to contact the interplanetary visitors. Well, we have been on group mission, a group attempting to contact the visitors.

But the group that Mr. the occasion that Mr. May Day was speaking of was when my husband and I were in the desert around Joshua Tree. There wasn't a car, there wasn't a thing inside, it was a perfect day. And we thought that if we were ever going to see a spaceship that would be the time to see it. And we drove all day through this desert country and nothing happened. And the next morning when we got up just going to our car, there above the mountains was a large, well disturbed a mothership. That's the ship from which these smaller ships are launched. This mothership that you saw, what did it do? Well, it seemed to stay stationary, it was behind the mountain. Mr. Reeve judged it would probably be a mile long. I couldn't tell anything, not knowing anything about engineering. But I do remember, we had been in the saucer research almost three years in. And we thought if anybody we would be perfectly com, should we see a ship. We couldn't find the binoculars, when we could find them, we couldn't get them adjusted. We fell over each other getting into the car. And I just wonder if one would appear now, how many would fall on the

lake? You've written a book about this idea. Yes, we started out in 54 in an attempt to find out whether there was any fire behind all this flying saucer smoke. And we've traveled 30 ,000 miles, spent over three years on it. We, of course, have convinced ourselves that they do exist and that planets are inhabited and there is an attempt made for the people on the other planets to contact Earth. My husband, of course, was very skeptical. He's a graduate of Yale and MIT. So, of course, he knew that it couldn't possibly be. What was that, John? Double beam of light, right with that fastest pinning torque. And my light beam transmitter light just burned out. Now there's more coming out of them. Now there's a lot of them. We're getting activity. We are receiving activity. The whole group of shafts of light, streaking into the sky, have appeared on the horizon, far out of the North. There's a big one right here. Start out one over two.

It's becoming very well -lighted now. Very, very, very, very, very, very, very, extremely distinguishable. My light beam has just been... One, two, three, four. Two of them have merged into one larger one now. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Good. Eight light beams. All of them vary distinguishable. One of the receiver units is picking up activity. Now two of them have merged into a larger one in the middle. Let me hear your ifles, John. My light beam unit went out. At the precise moment that the ship got within range here. At the precise moment that the ship got in. Could they call it out? Yes, he did, and he may not be commercial. He may not be. What's the significance of all this, John? Significance is, I believe we can say that we have received an answer in a visible signal. We have not seen a craft as such. We haven't had the interplanetary visitor step aboard this craft and talk with us. In the sense of the of speech as we are talking right now. But we have had activity that I do

believe has been created for our benefit. One extremely bright beam. As if it were a spotlight. Is now shining high into the air. The people below deck see that very bright shaft of light. Yes, now it's spreading out. Tell the people below decks to be sure and see it. Fading out and it's getting broader as it fades. It's Mr. Mena, your rather of an expert in this field. What significance do you gather here? The thing that it seems evident to me is that we are not quite at the place where we're ready for the full measured demonstration. I have seen five saucers and actually three of them came at the most unexpected times. And the last one was witnessed by others and under circumstances not unlike this. You're saying something really cute because she's getting momentum and getting... I say it moving. It's moving at an extremely rapid rate of speed. I'd like to add here the craft, one of the most outstanding sightings here. I don't know if I ever told you about it in the past at any time. But a very large cigar shaped craft that followed my car on the

desert back in 53 it was. And when he took off and left it took only a matter of four or five seconds before he became like a bright star in the distance. John has been a very clear night indeed. It's been so clear that we've been able to see the reflection of the stars on Lake Michigan. Perhaps it was too perfect for the interplanetary visitors to come down and actually pay us a visit. But you do feel John that we've had some sort of contact. I sincerely feel that we have had recognition. They have shown their recognition by several different means tonight. They have shown their recognition to the effect that we have been attempting to communicate with them. Well we want to thank you very much for an interesting and exciting trip, John. It's certainly been a pleasure. Thank you, and it's been very nice having you aboard you. Skippers pulling back into shore now and that is a story of the people who go and search of the unidentified flying options. This is Hugh Hill speaking.