Black Champions; Interview with Lee Elder
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fb i am taxes i was born in dallas texas july fourteen nineteen thirty four and i stayed there for quite a number of years until my parents moved to los angeles and there was after i wasn't done my job median american school and high school and we moved to los angeles in nineteen fifty nine and i began to go to work times are when we moved to the center in nineteen fifty three and i started going to school in manual on high school and i think the reason why that what was happening that they did because the fact that day and tried to pursue a talker and the state of texas where to supplement this cannot come about because
problem it and fifty four they had a home they caught a constitution that sale in the number of of the white race vermont the play on the public facilities so will and one golf course at there with him in a play on and that was an oakland a streetcar the course and we were not allowed to challenge i really is that the us thought of in my professional career was the fact that i used to carry him and even though i had a chance to work at a chance to go out and slip on the golf course and play up there one was finished plan and we opened the lid off this hour but the renewed i felt that there were really no chance of me trying to pursue a korean professional golf why bystander state of texas well since this weren't the case and then i had no chance of trying to improve that felt that i would just urge live for and they won or ngos gloom and beyond that time with my aunt in los angeles and then go back and stay
with my sister and dallas are in the summer months when really it was not too much you know i'm in los angeles and the majority of the of the playful folk they were truly in the texas area at the time going to someone so that was janet between dallas and los angeles possibly both well thomas jefferson park is a public facility that they're the majority of the gospel that come out of that out of the texas area especially that office that there were among members of country clubs are pretty much come through at one point and various time i guess i started it that started the plan as much practice west of the cameramen and tennyson partisan enough i love the not and in my game and crew and went back that's where the majority of the so called castro's plea because people from all around the world like a man and can really right about us and that
that money and so i became very involved very much involved in that to the extent that basically a lot of love that their matches with a fellow by the name of titanic thompson and that so we traveled the country quite extensively not only just in texas but all around that the united state but tennyson woods well lydia haven for golfers that wanted to to make a bet that regard to what's going to shadow how often you go in an apology political bloc they could've been known that only on your opponent that to a plan i reserve made the title golf course where a daughter so i didn't play out that where you were you could you can always find a game you can always so wait a few dollars in it and i think that's really what thompson has so much notoriety man because it was loaded for that it's true
well yes it i started planned when the first audit plan i did not do the voice and what i mean by the mortgages were by the left hand of the ball in the right hands below i did a play just the opposite i played with the right hand above and the les campbell in which which was known as across an unlikely that way for a lot of years and modified my eye whenever started i was cross and which a lot of people did not realize that because one of our good to shout at the end of the at the end of the of the shot i will always be in the group and because of the reason why did that was because of the fact that i always felt that i will bring my left wrist every time i get into the ground going in his position here and was a lot of strain colonus are habits which all and that's a man men that balance by the memoir mad about momentum in st louis of all about the name of ted cruz who was a very good golf and probably one of the leading prime is a black daughters because a lot of the solo
songs of the playbook to a force ten rule that completely pga tour before charlie sifford bid but he did not play them all if you did not get the recognition that's all it did because the fact that charlie played and left all in saudi up when it took the house in boston of things and it take to live to continue to play a little butt head rolls to me and is weighing a talented rose about ten years and that it was instrumental in saving meal live in st louis missouri the time in that we used to play at the club there by the name of forest park public facility we have a chance to learn to play in the all so upset the place to practice so teddy would kim allen aaron in the mornin which thought about seven o'clock in the morning and we would stop practice and he would leave me on the practice tee pretty much of a bloody one and played with the other fellows around the area but i guess i
must a practice their own satan my grill for about six months then now in the fall the year we would always leave play listen then get back out to the west coast back to los angeles so tenney what always said to me well i think it's time for you to really put your swing in action and what he meant by that was that was time to test to see if it's to stand up on the press the press yellow golf tournaments and perhaps the press ill planned for some awesome cares so we arrived in los angeles there was a time and by the name of the man and ultimately input we get it just about in time for that so we entered in the monochrome well i think the first two rounds and margot reid plan that way terry i want to go back to the cross and so badly because i had so much confidence and then i knew what i could do cause and you know i hadn't played there very much that way and
within the last couple years i still felt that i had more confidence in the cross and stalin had been in the war and stopped simply because of the fact that it was something new to me and i had only been at it for some of the time but herb terrace set know whatever you do did not revert back into it cause then we will be defeated now are the loyalty to solve that your work that it would be just for waste he said because every time we get in this situation the world price has a plot to you know you can find when it then the first thing that you do is to go back to that and there's no way that you won't be able to to really get the feel of the bottom and fitch and have a profitable again and get the shot it's a good idea is a testament to the service as a matter fact i was plan the planned often called the gulf cause i think it was
like to serve people had been trying to retreat for quite sometime about me moving around the country and they were unable to get out with me so i was planned in the guardian of al yom in los angeles ms martha walked up and so it's you know it's going to are you robert lee elder said yes i am an iguana and i began to wonder how do you know my name you know my full name because it usually flows for such a long time so he said well i have something for usually handed to minimize risk you might put in my pocket because i was about to go and she also i don't know i don't know what where saddam or really before they so i think this plan i live up in this is reading from a problem the ninth statewide name it ahead what was at moma but then anyway i was fortunate to be drafted into the service at fort lewis into the basic training at fort all of california which was not too formal side than the moderate area were a seaside area just outside a moderate
and dylan might do in my first a week of of china know i received a lot of publicity because it hurts us finished second in the guardian of al yom in second in a mild bellow which show the run in the paper around the los angeles area now molly malone mom in southern california they do a lot of good right up on that will oh no thomas and they saw had just finished second of back to back and so as i was at my basic china and i received a call to my commander from from the frigid my company commander and he said that the temperature would like to see him in his office this morning so the last one in the world so he's heard of richard congratulated me on my successes on the tool as laura rowley nominates until one ear was concerned than usual what i would like to like to do is i would like to give the city game of force over the weekend so us will still
pretty you know it's that i'm not completely until we have a basic training i knew that if anyone could pull out all the good because a wide amiable commando who was to say well there's this gotten out of basic financially can lead to actually say well i'll take care of that on me too on the golf course at ten o'clock facility that's fine so i went back and i taught my company commander was first a coma for saudis are you can't win on were not going that excuse you know unbelievably off to you that you have a caveat they'd be dutiful also the hassle ever met you well this week over the roster for katie duty for saturday unless a well i'm sergeant bomb in the originally
planned offer ten o'clock on saturday and i'm sure that that if you give him a call them here that he will attest to that so lisa wong and we'll take it we'll see about the social ok for saddam and i said well i would like to go in them an evidence out like to a novel adam excuses wi of thinness would work for today because i'd like to go out and get a few balls as a nonfiction made arrangements for me to come out to the club and get some ball the same amount you finish with me so well i don't want things with your natural says you're not on that you will not be here for seventy foot ap get him a massive good job at this after a while for saad you can do whatever you like but i think that the maintenance on an awesome labor to give comfort to call and let him verify these things with you so anyway when he called a mini verified to the extent that we were planned on saturday he told me so it when i'm gonna do so i'm going to work
is that you not even sleep in a barracks and my because i think we will probably have an inspection so i'm gonna move you that the other day and i had to rip and that it was about that i was about to go to go on tv was necessary but anyway that's time i am i stand started as far as my career golf at four all all after standard for lawful about sixty days after my comprehension that they are when two of the amendment also scuttle mean just a year before the state afford for about two months and and a good friend and fifty laws the form of what until fully comforting piano and my father had met him and i played with him up and for oil in the gulf which are suggested that it would be a good thing for him to see me and my dad his post because he was very dumb hold women don't for me where you want to win in all aspects of sports basketball football team's car whenever
whatever his pulse was that was their involvement he wanted to be a woman because we compete in so much against the fourth area even though i was a training base they still have a lot of the golfers a lot of the bubble up with another sport that they just could not go forward with the team of the drop off point for a lot of the young people that was coming from overseas and a lot of the people that that were stationed around the area where a violent that word that actually they all wanted the performance wasn't so i went to fort lewis washington right away it became t well a special service for the next next eighteen months i stayed there he was with a certain mood of the barracks where i would come in that eye once registered to have a more insular rifleman so they're happy to put their arrival there so we moved into what was called the dust out there these were my god i don't have to really work on it and when a star
persona korea at thirteen and think about rather persona korean professional though this is a wall amelia bond been discharged from our form of washington i decided hey this is a it's a good chance for me to really test mice field and put him into some kind of test for a fourth slot the middle of an idea i decided that when i would do is that i have enough money saved up that i would try the uva to which was a predominately a black tool that they have a level a lot of caucasian plans it was planned on it just to name a few guys like jimmy clock now bustling mile a quick these were the timing that where there were real good golfer but really the dominant force on the uva to it that i was tan robes charlie also because charlie was
plan b u g a n the pga so the woods it would quell you did an ultimatum of moneygall would support himself on the pga which was which was really good and i'm happy that he was able to do so with the us are some that airplane enough to get now the service with attila solomon detroit with temporal general wanted to interview and that was nineteen sixty one after got it international fourth time the one about time three way three times which was which was soon as report majors that i won the north and south in miami for about four times which religious oh the less for the next five six not for five year that is chemically that you plan to accumulate enough money to perhaps save up enough money to where i could make application for the pga tour won in nineteen sixty
three am ad a lot of roads not right away because i could see that he was not necessarily instrument of a professional golfer into was plant herself and with a pretty avid golfer himself and i knew that i would become a no into the washington area later on that year and so i just work on it because i among them away because when i get through plan and for going to nashville tennessee spent a few days with tennis and around mantilla well a brazen in mlb it not to lease goes so she said this so i called when i got up and then we began to see those he began to help him play in a long term us about wanat and then as a professor to an innovative rank them and she began to wear and sometimes so i sold to you know i think
this would make a good combination you know look like you able to do to be a pretty good player i know i can play you know break in boston says he says a wall and we think about it so we caught each other for all about a year or so and so they're with excitement while the losses we are since we will be tried in the same circle on only you know american and see if we can make a comfortable living together as one in a row than you care and i'm pamela lee and i'm dan o'connell new chemical mount carmel we can combine them and make them one so well we still troubled again even after that for about another year and i used to carry her family along with me no mother was alive and then she loved to travel so she made a second trip to the detroit area while one i was fortunate to win a national lead to dr where i won the national in boston also limit foreign year
to photograph it calls great way where won the time episode almost every place she went with me and victoria so i felt that the tomato this report made application for the pga in nineteen sixty seven minutes and from from february of sixty six through december of six days of sixty six i and i'm about to twenty one golf tournaments only eighty eight who was successful and spin women sixteen of those leaving real life and certainly so it gave me a chance to accumulate enough money to where i could really not have to trouble either secure a sponsor the play on the only on the pga tour i thought that i had enough money than men at i can make it now i got to make and i got to give it a shot and i am thirty three
years old and a note that israel really common on the two intelligence that lives of the twenty one nineteen twenty twenty one you know hit and i knew that things were not going to get any better if anything it will get worse because i thought i felt that the old i was given the more was to feed myself by waiting so we discussed and she decides who's a wall ok if you want to take the chance we have saved up for it about paul far from also while only get a shot at the time when i made the application the requirement for the pga tour with only sixty five hundred miles at that particular time that was and i was to issue the pga that you have enough money that you could support yourself moment might not be reliable prize money in order to attend you know so we made the application i went to school in the fall of sixty seven and september
and the first three days in the classroom more pretty much land in the different aspects of the game which i felt that i pretty much knew i felt that i'd been around awful about that a man about this going on and let me out and get me the chance to play with an issue in rice fields on the golf course of all this all of both workaholics government of involvement anyway let me going and matt and play but my class of nineteen sixty seven i want to steal oil still unruffled but we have one more money than any other question of columbia school we have full guys ever made only of them came out of the school with me we also head to farm manager tap into from a british amateur champions i was in the bed with me while i went to school with the likes of tony jacklin and bob murphy and give the guilt ridden body cold and commissioner dean baim of those were the type of player that i went to
school with it a it was a really rough analogy i am thirty three years old and all these kids are just coming out of college in ireland have been planted made a name for themselves one guy has an exclusive to how you feel you know play when all these guys in the wreckage of a plane that they have various be useful while the crash which have a hundred and fifty players that there were people that cotton aren't impulsive at the only one and a half thirty so i felt that at good after this came in and really were caught in an interview on it because i don't want to give up their cars up on that point on all the names of the men i didn't actually get a simple sheath
menu and unscrew with some tough players only walker players in the us amateur attack in the us and they say well you know i haven't heard of them and i'm sure they haven't heard the only older that the older successes this is great is that success made a man on a larger scale but certainly this is successful well after the first two rounds of the chairman i was lying about seven would pay the first two rounds a minute take a day off and rats out of four rounds with his seventy two holes i was mad about text with seventy two bottles of playing steal it for on the go up to fit in at first the first week was made is to say that after this hundred and forty four goals i thought i think it's eleven the class which was not which was not a bad place different assured me of my college my first year on the job which was nineteen sixty eight the first full year
i finish them the money well my first mentor in the money lauren sets there because sir dave and jack nicklaus missed the money and fame the great jack nicholas the money and a second go from that as a professional golfer so this area resident of problem also i was fine when the bomber the full regalia that particular year ago and we went pretty close and told bob later on the interview bob murphy won back to back about our classic in montclair new jersey and the philadelphia inquirer march so they can ask our offer them all myself in a secondhand about them for rookie of the year nineteen sixty eight while also in nineteen sixty eight then i finish in the top sixteen money was what really set me for the next for the next year without a qualified which was open and i was very proud of them and mailed in assets of about thirty six thousand miles
and at that time thirty six thousand miles a pretty good sum of money and the in nineteen sixty seven sixty eight sixty seven well in nineteen sixty nine we all their head and i guess where it became moles moment because in nineteen sixty nine and i played the five a fiddle with jack nicklaus for the american knopf question on national television which is probably the greatest exposure that i probably could've ever received in my mind because you know i had an accomplice so the records that are still standing and now they expose you were not there because of the rhetoric of the fact that i had not appeared on international television as say well it's as a women of all time well after that it it made me say that i think in and really put the initial event to me that i felt that i really needed to go out and play the type of game that i knew that i was able to plan because the next following week at the western
in chicago are finished tied for third i went on to to make i mean to that year to make or perhaps have one of my element that is that is my my income went to simulate senate two thousand miles even and that was even without a tenement where well needless to say i had a lot of very close a lot of very close friends as far as women but i think probably the most i'm in front of that i have on a golf course where the next four year at the masters golf classic in memphis tennessee with one to go and though in the course of their rounds saturday an incident occurred on the sixteenth hole that i think that really prompted the things that were about to happen the next foreign day on the sixteenth hole i was planned them agree with tommy aaron to a deal and i drove my ball right down the left
side of the fairway in the meantime in the process of us walk into the bubble some fans come from out on the street out over the street pick up my ball and ran away with it well we arrive at the border we couldn't quite of all supportive and we couldn't fight with the people make our really a thing that sarin want to so no one said anything so finding terror deal spoke up and said i saw what the ball's at the bald approximately right here while than a couple people on the gallery say is yeah the bar was the most right and the noise people picked it up and ran on the street with whelan that at that particular time ever widening hour i began to get on these two people have had sympathy with it so consequently we called for the german official to come back now and we know that back and forth for about maybe five or ten minutes before i was
given a free drop because they both have actually been playing and we had witnesses say that to the extent that they have and so when the ball with their woolen on an ethical at the end of the round i still had a one shot lead over bayview wall the night while we read our old motel my wife and i are the following only after the fall a voice on the phone saying you're black so and so even on when he's gone willkie so we immediately called a german official and in the course of the time if there's a criminal when we're talking to them about the phone rang again and it just so happened it got on the telephone in the herd the same words repeat it to him so the call the call a policeman them at night they put god's around our problem or girl and the next day then my wife had a war criminal to fall away
and he was escorted by police made for eighteen whole lot of water they had in atlanta he was sixty five i said sixty seven so he beat me when we finished i made a statement that island of a bolivian that the memphis tennessee and i receive a lot of letters from people and carried me to go back and play because they're frightened that this was this was not solve any problem than it was it was only eleven and get the best of me on that federal law which it was right in the wherewithal where i was a double double to play actually go and play well the next farm near as sir we were about to go and play them on everything set something so i passed the potomac at about now because of the fight
i felt that it was a lot of turmoil would be a lot of turmoil and matt and methods if i went back to two incidents that have occurred such as adam so closely so closely together that i decided that it would be best for us not to build employee so from that extent i would not go back and play that typically means a position where it was about us while their requests my wife and i am i keep referring to my wife rose because she managed to count all my business and she's the one that girl will make the second decision well we did a list of parliament will go he asked me if
he could get me it makes them in and the taste will become the south african play what i accept i told him well it was pretty hard for me to say right at that particular time because of a lot of things that had to bet i would have to weigh a lot of people about how to talk to because they had just refuse service to resist a comment from pma in the tennis in south africa so i bought it over and my wife and i said obama biden will almost certainly thought about something that we could do that would make our trip enhance to hear some things some of the e bikes in south africa and to leave something permanent there not just go over and take just to be going over to say that i'll go for practically moderator sports in south africa we did not want that would want to do something to show the people that we care
because the statement that often made them the man and the second reason he said that it should be a bomb dropped on south africa and no minor league black south african government about that it's so vivid that is it will please tell off of the police and we thought that that that medicare because not only would kill them or they would kill us all so but anyway during extended invitation it took us about six months of work in with here in the south african government and having them to accept the things that we wanted to be one of them to except first of all we heard about the shop you're at this with a shutdown of the black in the time of the rise and then just outside johannesburg in some way so also a teacher that that teach at him on the seminary and there in south africa among the seminarians principal of the school to washington and met with rows of myself she was explaining to us that the
south african government we tried to hold the school down the cost schools not up to the standard but what the other school work yes and now her name was ms sherrod mean she was the school principal amount to seminary which is an all black girls school in durban south africa and she said that the government or threaten to close the facility is down because the schools not up to this pattern of envy of the other schools well that was almost impossible anyway cause any time that they're you know in all black girls or boys school in south africa dates are not going to be accused of a wine simply because the donation the money for donations on a lot of the wives who but anyway didn't burn up their baptist talking with her we went to the lab area here in washington
poor mary and on every major american company that has affiliations and south africa for the nation for this coup and alert them of the fact that we would be coming to south africa where we would like to receive the donations of colorado well the response was so fantastic that donation where all we raised over eighty thousand lions want to leave with a type of donation that we got from the different american countries and south africa so my wife and i much and his wife say they got on a plane and flew from johannesburg receiving his and paramount to them in south africa may have a chance too see those golden boyz crew made some enemies of the young ladies then one day in a screw from fantasy picks as they could i think at the
time i was competing in a golf team and i played in three tournaments why was that saab wasn't honest are competing in the south africa no but the one thing that i dislike about soldier with the fact that we were invited to the south africans review of calls with them and what is that is they award banquet whereby they would receive in a springbok called the spring because of pretty much like us receive an award farming in the ryder cup team or something of that nature well we went we recently went to live there and when the receiving line where prime minister forster will receive in everyone he received everyone up until about two people from rolls of myself he stepped off of the red carpet and went to the best well the president right away him on the paper the next day prime minister vojislav realtor imported oil and
that didn't bother me and then because i really have not matter one who's about me because i have heard an awful lot of think about i'm terri had told me i thought it had been then how long and tvs had it been for him to get the south african government to to expand the visa the communication that we have had had mad men would say pride the prime minister but certain with members of the saddam government in gary point but it it really felt i really felt like it was a slap in the face you and i were a guest in this country the first black guess in this country to be extended of the vote to come in and play moderator sports and he did not he did not take two seconds to spit out to be a shake out and then they said that they're the point of the barr said that it was time for the festivities into stardom in one just automatic while but what's a
definite not often two minutes after if you would receive if you know i had to receive the people that a guest in your country but anyway we'll get back to you not the seminary and the money that we raised these were certainly a significant amount of love to where they could bring that screw up today be added in an additional preschool that's called leo assets will stand right there they are but i have not been able to get electricity well as i felt that i if i'm against an annual country as to release me the prime minister and to be received like the other people or receiving end of us i i felt that it was an embarrassment to their employer because he had worked very hard and very long trying to get us to the second time to get us into the country which we did
but also the fact that it was thomas certainly get him an enhanced his government here is better communication with the lot about them because they had been picketed him what is also cover those policies that i thought that you know you can can and then one man for what this country's policies and i felt that way that gary was a type of person that you would try to have any one and i felt that if i could be opening up to him i'm sure the system well there's certainly a certain internal systems system and i when i would hope that one would have to live under one one especially where you have been freed i mean to go there and see the end of the day after the
workout that the blacks have to get off the street before bob they have to carry cards to identify themselves and if they are caught on the street el arrested and put in jail unless they have an ok from that so called master that they work for that he worked all the time and but instead he did not have the intent to put him in an automobile and caramel they have to try to help abbas enemy the transportation a local whatever they have to do we really test the system was i don't come down with a bad back for the time that they're there we were in south africa we just want to see if they would they give me the same treatment that they were given the black south africans and they say that it could not be treated by our white back in south africa while i'll you couldn't go to the same goal as the white went from going to the hospital while we went we did that we test them to the extent where we went through that bill i was treated by white dr
alma golf course i kissed though a white hero among fell and abbas said that do you know that you just committed know immorality act in south africa that you could be arrested for that that's a world you know these are the things that we're here to try to testify and i'm about to see just what's going to happen to a guest in that country once enough know it's a vanity fair the only incident where that we were not allowed to go into victoria problems which is an all black area outside of johannesburg to to talk with some of the likes to say a friend of mine know where miss him one night because he did not come down the ballot let me just say that well he's a victorian trying to seek some information they also said well we'll go how we'll give you special shelf was a special were secret service people the end of the month and every move that we may so i can only say that that i guess has freedom to move about and do we want to do in south africa
this is wallace is no doubt about the fact that the masters is the ultimate golf tournaments it's spelled out about that but before nineteen seventy before the rules would save two except in and the intimate tone and winners it was a it was tough qualified for the mask because he had to qualify for getting yearly only to twelve people to qualify because of all the pressed have to know the people the smeal the field was much smaller so was a much harder time trying to qualify for the changes were made in nineteen seventy whereby they took every
anyone that was not well and of course the nineteen seventy which pete brown want often in nineteen seventy nineteen the senate will put that you want before they had an affidavit of tsar before they had made the change so from nineteen seventy to seventy four no no other bike and germany may appear the time so i was fortunate enough to land the political making seventy four qualified me for the masters emilio foreign qualified for a pastor i had to wait one year because the pensacola time or will the week after justice so that mean that it had to rotate the whole your back around two custom it was a tough year because of the press who a big fund and into the pressure of the media and the press show i'll just see on a person that it qualified for the state and by virtue of him the first black to qualify for boston i think the hardest thing for the fact that
i want to try to play on the street and could not play until certain pride that mr roberts said that they would come and play well i was extended and then i had gone from april to october before i received an ok to play then i had the plague via the chairman of the coca cola bottling company extend an invitation to come in and come into play because he was a member of lester along with the mainland so they were nice enough to send a plane and pick up girls and myself in washington in the past who took us a battle to play amelia paul ryan then his men that have been so russell much of arrival and then had made the statement that the only black level level be at augusta one billion of them yeah well cliff robertson made a statement
in there that the only the only black veil over the augusta would be the waiters in the cabinet well i've lost that one of a surprise he did in the senate call for and went to investigate though that this before when took us three weeks in an invitation to come to an event that all the group of people in the washington dc area was drawn from me at the washington hilton called the nineteen seventy five go to the mouth of the testimony for me rather than gerald ford with a guest speaker on saturday more than just the name of john clifford just to name a few secretary of state but anyway mr roberts the medics did not commit to come to the affair so i when i went to augusta the head we monitor from the time i left greensboro north carolina where there's villas determine what point i was going to mow
everything because mattie wanted to really look like a big man and the site's the outside of the american public at the apple of you sent a memo saying that because her oh we arrive in a cluster of the press and maybe you would think you were a bit of the problem in the united states have been derived from the time we drove down memory lane until we get to the club he was exposed a ballpark because he never says we can enter the gates of the us to get in and wrote up to the clubhouse with its own and as i got out the er they asked them to some part of the family feel accepted and extend an apartment with jason and made them and shaken hands with a black get an estate where this is an old time in one a qualified for a while receiving very warmly and so forth and saw well ironically to say her i think that the suffering of the amendments than the
statements that he had made really lived with him because about about six months after the time it was over with a foul mr roberts get the medicines and of itself parts of the screen a poll that the faster than an ability but the story were that he had a certain time of cancer that he could deal with that while i felt that i certainly did not like to see anyone do anything such as that in a lot of the field and then about a month on a qualified for a lot of the weight for so many years i would like to feel in my mind that that had nothing to do with the fact that might qualify and that made him turn his attention to that and not about i think that and hopefully a house and hopefully
that there was not a safe face saver for him because of the statement of the mainland the things that he had done in the past to keep apart from the planet than just a color suffer no one really a manhattan tennis in a cotton and congress will deliver anything but i do playing their qualifying and seventy five a play the next six years an investor in an eighty eight same to get better and better because the other blacks have qualified to play an investor after my qualify and of servant and then that triggered they're rolling in and then walker wimbledon little mark with the new chairman so augustus only a place that i think everyone every gospel to play because it's just like i say it's a simple cipher multilingual
this week compete and compete on a hollow he said he must have the follicle ability to compete you must keep himself in good condition because until you do that when you compete competing for a purse of five hundred thousand valid not have time to be sick i think the league the one thing that is as the most nerve wracking as the mental aspect of the game that they can process that you have to go through an apprentice at the airport with the other thing that you'll be confronted with as forrest gump e forty seven a chance to win as far as just be unable to compete on a day to day
basis and they can the whole process out of each shot that he will be confronted with it millions really so tired at the end of the day because you know you and your costly think in the five vowels maternity all about everything that could possibly happen good job a home a new novel want to think about intimate thoughts but sometimes a baby when they have ten and i think the really why they kept him because you cannot go for eighteen holes costly on a positive side all the time the negative aspect of honor mr sophy because the fact that you won't have to make that decision as to whether you gamble to eliminate the
negative aspect i mean to take a chance with me with the negative aspect of whether you play safe and the negative aspect will nominate him to but when you do that to a not very successful as a one legged so last question this is this is you can thank you he says the workers here to be a ten pin you must sacrifice sacrifice a lot of other thing that probably you may have done in the press that would not happen to be done differently to be a champion it must work awful hard at long and tedious ailes you must do things at that you really feel that i'm going to have to reach the
goal of strive to become a champ you must think about other people and treating them the way that you want to be treated at a smile of all time even though it may hurt it do they spend less energy it is elaine weinstein at my expense and i feel that they express about heavily years and hopefully that's the thing that i have left can be on a positive and terminated for summly on them up and come undone by kids that will be coming after me i know that we do have a young man by the
name of geoffrey when tested with its university mr obama but battled problem just graduated from university of kentucky called woodard who is from the denver area these are the new and up and coming stars of the future kalman peter certainly been very instrumental in that have been alone in line because they go around the country speaking and teach in the youth and try to get them involved in golf i do pretty much the same thing it's so easy fog of my kid to turn to basketball football simply because the fact is not that expensive for his family to buy they invite him of a softball or baseball basketball or football but it's awfully expensive for golf club and i think that's the reason why we did not have many young black youths at that time and took off i am striking verizon in the washington dc area with my youth program that i have to have it on the privileged kids and give them a chance to become involved
and go through the couple live the books corporation lot of st louis we have acquired golf clubs where buyer i paid so much to the kids and give them a chance to live to really practice again the golf course mr herr no i do not know the extent though this youth program right now because i've been unable to trickle out in an opponent this year also that have been shared on that same mountain which i started i look forward to going out in an insane if this is the case at all in and they certainly before the summer's over with some of my extensive travel as overweight but i said i want to say too the young black kids hapless and i'll take the chance go out and work or caught that tran to pursue any career that you that you involved in the survey lives think this give a lot more thought about turning to golf rather than trying to run a football around them trying to get a baseball a homerun
and a baseball does give us that does give a chance to the public is another will come up after you listen on the draft after black
- Program
- Black Champions
- Raw Footage
- Interview with Lee Elder
- Producing Organization
- Miles Educational Film Productions, Inc.
- Contributing Organization
- Film and Media Archive, Washington University in St. Louis (St. Louis, Missouri)
- AAPB ID
- cpb-aacip-7d323385ec6
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- Description
- Program Description
- Documentary honoring African American athletes and their accomplishments throughout the 20th century.
- Raw Footage Description
- Interview with Lee Elder conducted for Black Champions. Discussion centers on his career as a golfer, including discrimination and racism he faced playing at various golf clubs and as a member of the PGA.
- Created Date
- 1985-07-16
- Asset type
- Raw Footage
- Genres
- Interview
- Topics
- Sports
- Subjects
- Discrimination in sports; African American athletes; Sports--United States
- Media type
- Moving Image
- Duration
- 00:56:28.302
- Credits
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Interviewee: Elder, Robert (Robert Lee)
Interviewer: Riley, Clayton, 1935-2011
Producing Organization: Miles Educational Film Productions, Inc.
- AAPB Contributor Holdings
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Film & Media Archive, Washington University in St. Louis
Identifier: cpb-aacip-a6439f0db66 (Filename)
Format: 16mm film
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- Citations
- Chicago: “Black Champions; Interview with Lee Elder,” 1985-07-16, Film and Media Archive, Washington University in St. Louis, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed November 24, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-7d323385ec6.
- MLA: “Black Champions; Interview with Lee Elder.” 1985-07-16. Film and Media Archive, Washington University in St. Louis, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. November 24, 2024. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-7d323385ec6>.
- APA: Black Champions; Interview with Lee Elder. Boston, MA: Film and Media Archive, Washington University in St. Louis, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-7d323385ec6