Swank in The Arts; Unedited interview footage of Shaindy Fenton; Interview of Art

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no you know what but let's start with what it was that experience that i started out collecting our iced by ship cows prance and picasso print in their au prince an all of a sudden i married a man who's off was that frame business and i went to new york and talk to me so i can get all these things for you wholesale so i thought it's not a great idea i started buying them wholesale and then i got the idea that i could sell to other

people at a discount and and i start selling to my friends and i would get those are small discount and they went down i think by the press truly i moved to that when i moved to texas and we're a service with all these doctors and they say i got them all interested in buying france and they've continued to bison since they started you know it was in nineteen seventy it came later on and basically i've always been interested in colors of clothes and pictures and nine until i was eighty or ninety years old i was an interest in collecting or that's my story three you're

welcome i worked a very small margin i did everything myself on basically my clients i have i'd feel differently than all the other art dealers i eighty people for example if i was selling should now i would put together a package with only information we should know where is shown what he's doing and then i would send out all the pictures that were available by show and then i would get them to buy a prank on your parish cochran on your print a picasso and basically that's why i was interested in at the time because i'm your own show yes they spoke to me i thought they were marvelous and they were different than i know wisconsin is there isn't that of hours without worse picasso three thousand year old city is when i moved to texas i came there were no galleries in

four words and i went i don't have reason to do so i went to fourth a museum and i asked henry happens if i could do something to help and that they stay in one room ok thanks is i am i'm going to do it was a huge year yes and i find that i can't afford them finally of organizations i was vice president isn't really advice press the opera lee odden an officer the medical surgery sheriff of origin a council and i think it became boring i want i want something else to do and i was doing this on a very small scale and i met henry happens and what was on the scene and he said to

me that he would like to set up an archives so that young college students have come and look up prices in the archives because there were no books written about these people as yet so i said i would love to do that and importance of filing cabinets and i certainly i made of thousands of thousands of those fees sarin on various artists and young carson's become write their papers from the information that i had i would add every time the isis has show i would add more things to be wrong the file and they became large usable files henry hawkins certainly you have to sell more than prince you have to sell paintings and i said well i don't really know about things he said i want to teach you and he took me around him and i went and he's shopping he showed me how a lot of pictures and from there i speak not only the show we had a lot of pictures but he he got big clients and i start selling paintings are paintings abstract expressionist painters and i start talking at my

clients who watches thousand euros in picasso's into my paintings and i would take these paintings prints and throw them into paintings they've had forty two thousand picassos four eight nine hundred dollars and now they're worth nine ten to twenty thousand dollars so why would trading into paintings and they would have no capital gains in a camp run by our family and then from there are more morris people are who became my clients because i send out newsletters and i just i think this is as you said that's right i was in the right market at the right time and i i talk people into buying art and

how i got to buy out was by sending out packages i would send a package of information in and dealing with all the pop artist with the abstract expressionist are as and state and several other snow sculptures and what i would do was send them i work taking material from the files i was going to iraq's that are cut out magazine articles and xerox and then i would send them a package delivery people at the same time i can tell you my print business signed rauschenberg and i became one of the largest drug dealers in contemporary united states and what i did was i sent out a promised every it's about every four months and is premised on the prints were listed and i would send slice to people who request them plus the articles about these artists and tell about the press has been seeking tommy what are crying standing in

private and saying looking at the colors the shapes it was a ski all right and we would compare paintings one we would compare contemporary paintings to non contemporary paintings and contemporary paintings to contemporary paintings and he taught mechanic value judgment whether they were good paintings where they are not good paintings he taught me that you should look at each of you should live an arsehole work before you say painting is good because that may not be a representational piece of hours' work and that's what i try to pass on to my clients to look at it hard hole over and then is just painted with a lot of it is it does it fit in isn't a good painting compared to the other paintings we by work by artist there's a great difference between the price of a great painting and not breaking and ultimately when it comes to resell re sales an artist can when it comes to re

sells an artist's work a top painting sells for far more than that the pain he says and when i was in syria

and then how it in rice a refrigerator made noise and then you do it all the time because i like the noise i work with a tv on i never watch it i have never walked a program in ten years i hate satan my subconscious for it or you could turn out well when i look at it i always look in relation to the artist's homework i

find that the artist always knows when he does a great painting because they seem to price of a little more than the others if you go to a show you walk around me are still isn't he's having a lichtenstein show you find a great painting among those paintings and right away you know it's a great painting and us a price the painting is for sale and it's always more money than the rest of them even though it's the same size it did ours in the early days of breaking free to me a great painting is a painting that i look at and he scares rates for a lot of looking at that i can go away from and i remember that painting that's what i call a great painting when i can remember painting that i looked at i once went to that the new show of jasper johns paintings and i walked into liotta stars gary and i looked to the paintings and i said these are disgusting and i walked out the door and i went down to the virus that's i walk back up again and i started looking at them and i just kept looking and looking and i said well i'm not so bad and i

went away again and i came back about five minutes later and i spent several hours looking at these paintings and i finally realized what he was doing or what he was trying to get at and they became very important paintings in my mind and they were great things so i think people look at something first of all a lot of people collect art they start collecting art because are decorating they pioneered how young couple will buy new house and they have yellow so that may need some pictures go over and they have a blue chair a maintenance of pictures and they kind of look around what will fit into their house and after they start after their desperation some people get hooked and keep going and never stop and some people just thought that reagan and basically that's why people didn't win for either for decoration or because of the kinds of passion nine nine judges of the people

i once saw the headline dark painting to match it was over it was a money on it i tickle me but i didn't make a good writer for the person i thought that was wonderful that she was getting something wonderful it had to match a voiceover but it was a wonderful thing a lot of people go out and buy junk and it's is violence when they get done if they change their clothes so the exits from the garbage the smarter people collect art important art and then if patients are blues over to we also think they can trade in and sell and make a profit and by the opening that's right when i start with a client so will

call me up and and generally they'd been recommended by someone i'd much every client comes recommended by someone else and generally that i would call them up and say well so and so told me to call you and they start talking i said what would you like to buy and sometimes i'll say whoa i never bought anything i don't know anything about art so it's an art art on mr lucy smith has another general markup and i tell them to read it and they operate i tell them to look the pictures as many colored pictures in it and now called back about the week and i asked them what they like to look now say well i like frank stella or find a dollar and then i'll say ah that's fine and i'll send a package on frank stella biography what's happened in his work and pictures of any available stella's if they like franklin foer i would send in a biography and pictures of private sellers work and what used to be and what it is now if there's a

chase like stella has gone through several changes were so i will send the pictures of the black stella's which are not for sale just so they can see what has happened to sell and then i called him and we discuss whether they like to buy that if they have a budget for prince week scott coker is my favorite i started a marvelous well i work on several wonderful sculpture collections was a natural selection dallas and the other one is at a collection of lost and marty margulies the lower and i met mr marley is an auction when they we're saying he was sitting on one year old and i was sitting on the other he was betting on and the kimchi and he was he under bitter and i guess an unknown said on would you like these and other copy that negotiated he i have a four x number of dollars and he asked me back announce its old and from then on we just developed a great friendship and heat in the meantime he won an island encore of cold war while

in miami and it was a totally and beyond that he decided to do three buildings a hotel and club on the island that was his project because environmentalists have they say that they are would not allow this to happen but he struck a deal with them and he put up the startling of these buildings and you want to put up a sculpture garden he said what we do you know i can be a local florist and we can do a sculpture garden and i said no let's do something fantastic this can be your your outdoor sculpture a collection of really fantastic things and he said okay let's go so far we have fifteen sculptures on the island for profit or more coal burning kit she's now seeing smith home of thing carol and so on its just the marble sign has got a fantastic press and we're still working on it has

been a very exciting project you are if ice question my judgment i was elton i have people calling up and they want to buy salvador dali is rewriting it and i want to know because i don't want everything i sell to clients i won't sell back but i will sell to another client for them but i don't want to be responsible for selling salvador dali prince because salvador dali does in addition most people don't know about eleven hundred when it's s three hundred s three hundred three hundred free europe three hundred for japan and sometimes three hundred for some other spot in the world and are all numbered at sago way they are roman numerals and so on so forth i don't live here i don't want to be responsible for selling your

instinct and i turned them because i don't want to be tied in with niemann from selling a mason and asked that his precious paintings and selenium in its tell you don't like a reputation the sport know neiman is very publicly he goes to three hundred of each wanting to run every month and now they've taken them so the people that are like i have a lot of prejudice is alive africa's precious art and i liked pop art i liken precious ore and i love sculpture and i i i used to sew young artist's work but if it's been very difficult lately because people don't want violence a revised our shores there's this big thing right now that are as investment and other guy norris is not showing any order doesn't enter a reputation

people don't live by lily if you will i once found an artist that i thought was great this thing's first of a well more and i represented in across the country i used to pay him five thousand dollars a month and he gave me off this production which was not that great and i sat down and decided how i should promote this artist and i said this first thing he has to be in all major museum collections such as a museum modern art the whitney the metropolitan center and i got caught him in these museums also the dallas museum and i really work to promote his art he is he has become very famous i no longer represent him but he has a wonderful artist he does glass and steel sculpture that possibly contest and you lose

you and you see what sticks and i have several clients it sounds like once a month and some like very maybe once a year every two years i have developed a friendly relationship with each and every one of them i talked someone from iran and making georgia who has never met me in person he has a very big intemperate collection he he lives in macon there are no museums that show contemporary art there i met him in the mail we talked on the phone for years and years one year two years ago he called me up and say shady i want to thank you for everything you've done for me because my collection is going to be shown at the local museum and toll on the bottom of that catalogue you were so excited and were so honored this collection includes dallas and more holes a look inside a russian person the cloning you name it they had it and i said thank you very much time was really

spoiled readers say that to me he said i'm going to send you a present and one day i open the mail and elkins at this action of the biggest fattest news i ever saw my wife and i open it looked indecisive why this man saying this to me and boss at my hog call my husband i said you have to see this picture that's incredible and my husband came home a lot to be said thank god use selected his collection he didn't know she only one i had one client who was a young man from detroit and they joined my husband i on a trip into new york and he complained to my husband the whole time everything i've tried to sell it was no good and he brought something for me and then said that it was no good and wanted to sell back so i saw the back and then i'd find something else and you like it that went on and on until i decide to fire him but only won eleven years we have everyone

i've ever had whoever starts with me always stays with me because it i developed a relationship with him i was recently in the hospital and i had fifty people say only plants and on it was the most extraordinary thing it relies on your fifty people yes some people to say that i get up in the morning and call the world and i think it that i do i love being on the phone i have attained my girl the dream of talking about all they know and telling me to get off today i get up in the morning to the brain the phone which is about a thirty it's neither in iraq there are things that should be out and it i talked to all the dealers in the morning can i talk to collect recently at noon and at night i try and put together and that's right make my sales by putting

together with the dealers have in the morning and what the collector sunny afternoon and who wants to buy want anything you work with dealers with artists with the scene and the uncle andy i work with all the dealers in your california st lois all over the country i would i don't go around star andy i don't deal with your it's really they're my friends i know them they come to visit me but i don't go around their dealers i feel that their dealers have done a good job preventing and i wanted to continue doing a good job the dealers have been very kind to me by bringing clients they would normally have and i they have been very nice and given the good things thank you

stevie wonder what i think is it's not clear that you do not our guess at your best list of finance that you were as a pioneer as a courageous transition hers is that accurate i work as a non as a dealer but as a man as a consultant people aye but for the dealers and i work for my clients last year in space here are sold five million dollars worth of art that's a lot of money to put in the art market and i have a great deal of buying power the year before a self reliant hours and because it this summit is as the dealers gave me very good paintings i get the pick of the shows for my clients on last year there was telling a lichtenstein show no deal was a lapse of honor except for me they were sold to my clients i find my clients or does that

sound sculptors they had doubled in value since last year but because i go to leo and i buy a painting and i pay in cash whether my client paisley and i pay him immediately and because he knows that he can reliably he kissed me good things and the same thing with iran or marvel knoedler larry rubin once said i really don't want with your side i worked for him and that i don't walk with them i know that i know the artists aren't marked the suv world class owen there are at war marked old friends of mine but i know that i worked for them and one time i was in pace gallery and jim dive chamber really summon mention my name he's an old yankee fan you're the girl that sells all those things in mind and next time and i guess an excise on the restaurant he came over and kissed me and he was very friendly i work with museums as well i worked with the downstairs

hand in fort worth museum sentences come easy gary speed the metropolitan i worked in various museums around the country because of the way that i work it's very difficult for me to work with museums because i sell things very quickly and when you work at the museum you have to you have to sell more slowly on it one thing that i do for the museums is i get all my clients to join no matter what i have him all join their local museums and talk to the curators in get into the museum scene because i think that museums are really invaluable and are really valuable to their clients because they go the museum they can see the shows and they they get more than they can become more interested or when you'd use it i rarely i've only worked with one artist in that capacity and that was christy wright i don't work with other artists because

on it is that their dealers do that if i'm if andy warhol has paintings he has gone belly up the story house and get them into the right musicians so that i don't have to do that no i generally what our clients i had a young woman who was just finishing architecture school and she's been my client for ten years she's buy something for hundred dollars and pays it out or you and i love and i think it's fantastic because what something once here emotions ever spent was five hundred dollars but i really adored this person he is very interested in i'm interest in talking to her city i've never made any money and i was like i like working with our vacations so i worked for a

us aid agencies are saying is this a project says that now thirty thousand feet long and that her feeling of people here i think they are artist on the city's finances right now they're lobbying is for marching cole pattern and the leader of this coup was a man named bob the candidate and i'm i see that that this is coming about for the future i personally advice people to buy things by our story such as lichtenstein warhol russian her aren't flying the abstract expressionist and then i also advise people by sculpture i think sculpture will be very important in the eighties in the us armed and when i go to europe henry yells are always give me a list of people to go visit and

henry happened since in on the west coast as they had a list of people to visit an iowa i'm finding that i'm not enjoying what i'm saying it's just kind of more of the same i think there's a general stand solemnly in art right now i don't think there has to be i think they're just going to be artists who are bound to rise and shine and there's nothing being worse schools for say except for this pattern which seems to be marking their pickup truck there was a realist book super realists and eight nine very somber memorial that i think will happen is a single artist will be important they will rise and shine their paintings will will be important paintings in and they will be campaigning critics critics mean critics name critics name the school's lives our way i

think named pop art critics make up a name and that's it they were great yes they approved in time i work with i know various critics and on i am actually and i bring a lot of people who would not necessarily by art by pipeline macon georgia he would never buy art of the work from my sending him a lease packages i declined saying though is that i've built up an incredible collection for he would never buy this the things that he has because he would never see them so i am bringing people into the art market who would not normally come into your market mike weisser all of the united states and europe and japan stanley marcus how the japanese were night and i was introduced to a man who owned them in on the gallery art i was introduced to him on the phone and he he always wrote me as dear mr

shane li fan because he thought i was i mean i couldn't isis on jon's paintings and he in his mind he just couldn't understand the woman was selling these paintings when he finally met me he was shocked because he sat for your man i saw the manager he recently died myself many jasper johns painting you have a resistant with the unknown well when i was twenty years old i i got this sound like this is a disease called one hit the window and it destroy the side and one of my eyes and it's a progressive disease i recently i've had died two hours in my eyes and in my kidney i recently have my kidney

and the trio when taken out and because i feel that my my life has gone to be so sure i have i get up every morning have a great time i have a wonderful family life and i have a wonderful son and wonderful husband and we all get along fantastic and they all support what i do my husband and son help me my son as a packer he packs up in and crates all the crates and my husband does me on the checks for me and we all come here in this business would that make you say is it easy you your taste is here i'm a dealer went over to one mike myers martin margulies in florida and seventy five percent from cheney and i will sell to directly what their mission and he said i would never wish at the question does my insurance she says they all the slides from all over the world and she doesn't account for me and thats basically i

i do a good job for people i sent it to make it easy for them to collect art i make it easy for them to do their homework everyone who collects art to do their homework they shouldn't a person how many people right now and buy something and then take it out in the scene only to find out that it's a favorite says it's nothing like i'm supposed to your sources no incentive or faith for me or because i do my homework i am very carefully everything that i still has the prominence i check it out i am very careful about everything that i still this is bob a lot of people buy art as i was saying before because they won in decorator house and all the sudden they have a different color so far and they want a different color painting so when i do was take the painting and silica for

ben and trading into another painting said that they had no capital gains in person is allowed to trade light for light items you can trade aisha fall for another shoe power another picasso or whatever yes it about with actual reports on tax law for donations because a lot of my clients this is another way i helped me see a lot of my clients donate pictures if a boyish ago oregon and jains for a hundred dollars or five hundred dollars and now it's worth ten thousand they can give it to the museum and appreciated value so they can take off ten thousand hours on their income and i really encourage clients to do this so i have been able to get things that they are squeezing and i had been able to give things to museums all across the country the huge victories and it's absolutely i do shape a client's case because i

may i only show them that i like so i must shake their taste i find a like something i'm why was shortened because it i don't find a feel for something i can't sell to someone else a lot of myself in the first person i'm very careful about what i think he was collecting right now it's becoming very very difficult because artists it's a very tight market or it's becoming more more expensive more more people are getting into it for investment so that they're taking away from my serious collectors do you think do you think he's happy to be quality do you get for any impact on what artists i don't think so because i've found that artists are not doing they're just as many came sars today that there were a hundred years ago and that those artists are not producing any more than those artists were

hundred years ago eight for example like this time just as some attention here and we're told us so many pain here chance they'll just continue to do as they were before he says you got a prediction about what's next what the conditions were there i didn't want to know about the next famous person because i i'm on the phone every day asking people about yes the dealers asking museum people what what they've seen i am constantly in touch with him closely in touch with the whole world every day i have a very funny story one on one day and hudson was

a german war ii museum called me and said that he was going to have a new museum director and i would love someone who is dead and he's so i can tell you and i said well why did you tell me that you said i can tell you i said ok so a week passes by and i call summoning california where the dealers and she said oh i heard and one isn't taking the job the museum i citizen an interesting so i hang up my college and city aired on i hear everyone is that at the museum job and he said oh you didn't tell us they get so that's how i find out what's going on for one end of the continent to the other let's hear the source of the dealers who else to help your state of mind to go for you you know you become a

minority sect are eagerly accepted terrible voice its thirtieth growing old regime to my great resources or the clients i've already sold things do i have been able to talk people out of what they had and to other things and that's been a great source of material and then there are whole network of private dealers that most people don't know about who have wonderful things who have clients like i have a navy have great resources i have known before rockefeller died and i was i was asked as to sell some of his pieces and we went to with one of my clients and i went to new york and went to

rockefeller just a it was a really great experience we came to the playhouse we first a case they took us to the white house which was bigger than my home to have cookies and t and then we went on to see the gardens i wear the sculpture was it was just an incredible experience and then i went to rockefeller spouse on fifth avenue that he had some other things to sell there and we went to the most it was the most exclusive place that i've ever seen since el mr rumer okay my clients or offer a davidson a sculpture and he and he what was selling price and they said that was fine and they would take it well ok let's turn back again then they took a soup rockefellers manhattan apartment and we went off the elevator and saw the most fantastic he was picasso i've ever seen and then on the walls walking up into little wonderful pictures and i walked into the living room and just yes because there was the most beautiful image

that he's painting that i've ever seen he admits he's had painted his fireplace as an an oddly shaped the other fireflies shot and many of them and others for the man than furniture and it was the most of their work matisse paintings of picasso paintings that was the most explicit room that i had ever seen we went home and my client said that they would take the piece and it was not forthcoming every week i would call up and say where is the peace in our own they would say well it's gonna becoming they not we went to visit another dealer he was telling us that long a story about how he had for three things a rockefeller rockefeller one was to picasso drawings paintings and they'll pay with the frames so he said he sold the plane again and sold it to dryness in the governor's curator called up and said the governor would like his paintings back and he said no no i saw the paintings she said well he was like an

accessible he's not getting them so they every day she would call up and finally on the last day she said when the problem the governor has his paintings did you notice that you got them without friends well he has a copy puts him back and see where your brain and then and enjoys the copies and the dealer was to shock denial chavez said no that can't be true he's a law prove that you go out to the apple vela the hour you'll see the fire spring there and i went to the ap about the alley and there was a fire spinner wasn't pretty is pretty as this copy of red paint was is fresh and we then got the idea to have a sculptor copy and after we said that we would have swapped happy that's when he relented and gave us the peace you we didn't have this piece actually that's how we found out but there were repercussions i don't sell for my home myself through the mail

it i buy things and i keep them in new york i seldom quick enough in this mri used in prior times i didn't have to rise many things that i do now but it's becoming more more difficult to attain materials we have to keep buying and i sell things so quickly that they never oh i had everything that is in my home on like that is my case i have collected and i started out with a bunch of friends and throop are we finally finding a trading trading i came up with this art collection he's been doing i love my life is fighting the best lichtenstein had promised me a painting

for several years and finally we'll call me up one day and said that they hadn't and oh i got this before and i love it and i'm for it for the forum and i love that the best every painting here on paper with my own funds one after another and it's been very exciting to be easy i used i used to have a question where there are certain things i want to get rid of them then i was always straight away but i think the question is now that i want i want trade anything that i'll just actually i also like miami will work it's been the pieces i'm sorry

i love what i'm doing i had the most exciting time every day i get up and have a great time it's like going to a party every day and i know people would say that they want to do something else in another life i would do what i'm doing now i love it you never i never pressure i have pressured by things all the time that i love is he something to do what i love and i've i like to work with when i was in my bedroom i sit on my bed and have two phones on either side simultaneously work together on one person once described my coming to my house and say and he said it was like an alka seltzer commercial by sailed to get that's kind of where i work

i leave the cheap it's heaney is on all the time and that's my background music i hardly ever watch a program and i leave it on and he keeps me company while i'm talking to lasik be easy to say that you know my whole life is art and it read everything that i do revolves around art i like to do are related things i have i don't do any more raw deal which is unfortunate but i just really like to do what i'm doing and i've come may be selfish but i i just love what i'm doing and i've got my eye my family so about with it that they feel the same way because you know my son is my

son is the official packaged rapper a night he will collapse all the packages wrapped packages and takes the nails out and does errands for me i've gotten involved he told me the elevated he could run my aunt this is so i'd say as to who was desperate times he's now he's that target guy knight only have to learn a little bit more you mean that pakistan can be a long time and that's why now we're going to do is because of that there's much so do you deal with a client for rebels for power i work with a lot of garden commercial counts one is neiman marcus recently added a

restaurant in atlanta ga a ball low and as the paintings and france on one rig the whole room was totally done with his work that's quite beautiful and i worked with the park rapunzel company north park in ashes and quite a few marshall people who do you think it's been well generally when i'm working in the office when i'm doing it and neiman marcus project it's a decorator told tells me exactly what he wants in exactly what kind of colors in an ad the artist ai more specifically they want something exactly whereas the person i try and educate and it's very difficult to educators corp they know it's a lottery some some corporations can be in a situation where you fight again but generally it's that they want to feel a certain space with a certain size painting and generally they have certain hours to mind

yes sir i did a project with the un <unk> markets which required they wanted to have an artist do a twelve and half by twenty four foot painting in a new ones to store and he told me to get together different artists and put in a package now because he would present them well obviously it was biased in mind or you know to my taste because i was showing when i lived and ultimately they pick san francisco he did two wonderful paintings with them it was an incredible project he actually palin marvelous eight to twelve and here at one of the paintings shiites tell about the story about the singer was gone one of my clients are decided about a year ago that he was there by photographs and since it was not very knowledgeable about photographs i told him that i would have to make a study

of the market and then i would tell him what would be appropriate to write and after about a week of research i discovered the aids alliance was the person that you should be born he was going to ensure the museum of modern art and that meant the prices will likely go up so he bought a portfolio for over five thousand a little more than five thousand dollars and he did he we were talking in september and he was telling me that he really enjoyed or press it he kept them in a box and they hardly took them out and he would now like to sell them so i said well the right way to sell them would be to put an appropriate and he said ok whatever you wish and i took them and brought into our credit and proper at auction off in the last option they were for forty five thousand dollars when you add names i do don't have who have recently hired a girl out of california who is an expert in photography and she's helping me get things were clients

vaseline on my taste our entire is not reflected i do represent richard avedon are in that it's been a very difficult situation because if most of my clients are nine percent retire because i'm not interested in it and i don't know that much about it but the few who are interested i have i'm using this girl so with a guy will reflect her taste the sea lion or tiger beach is growing because the demand is growing that actually i'm not an interest in photography because if i'd have been like if i were more interested in and i would not fire this girl i don't have time to do everything i really keep up on paintings and sculpture prince the appreciation

where do you see that you envy me as you know this is something that i have i would not sell a painting of their war fighting to be so they're within market for because there are markets for all five paintings when you use your words well see that it would be pretty interesting artistic value at first is its market you know cities of

reasons but how could i say that power when it violates dealer you have to think about where the difference in that and looking at some sixty g o or that you know i went over i as a dealer as a dealer all the paintings and i say all have some market value i don't buy pay i don't sell paintings that cannot be sold again and generally when you buy five payne there is a market for it and what we what had done that followed one time a young man came to my house and said that he had to pay for sale and he had been in the gallery business

and i said well that's a good point you know what you have to sell it brought back the key city want to sell something you probably these paintings and the two paintings one was an honoring our shyness surrealist artist and one looks like a signature symbol of the cia and it looks like alicia hey so i bought the painting from him for five hundred dollars i checked out the story with henry happens to have known about these paintings i checked out the story and decided that did divide and gain the five hundred dollars and he gave me the paintings well we can never find out we know and one was an honor mr shannon i knew that it was worth several thousand dollars ivy other painting we couldn't tell what it was sweet and one day we went to the author my husband i was at the i got was my husband's of this for me and he went through a gallery gallery with a coalition a lot of those say at this event but that one thing through what it was until he came to this one gallery and the man said oh my goodness i'm willie baumeister he takes out the book and shows in this painting in a book and it

turned out to be a very very valuable painting which we later raided that was worth about twenty thousand dollars and you are at least i am basically interested in paintings that have market value i'm interested investing in our people start collecting our as i've said because they want to decorate but then when they become collectors' no one will buy a painting for five thousand dollars is that they can they will know next year we were selling hundred dollars which they can never silicon people who are investing any have money or for putting any kind of money or market wanna know that they are their investments now renee they say they may say they're not letting for investment purposes that everyone has in the back of their mind that what they sell has to have some kind of value and probably something that's growing up in

a few weeks and i have clients who simply cannot live without certain paintings or serene sculptures but these people if these people knew that they have to spend ten thousand dollars on something and they knew that they couldn't get a hunger for they would night they would just look at it one of those things the chair deftly fashions and in indicting our laptop or what's fashionable but if you look to the popcorn market you're twenty five or more could make even more painters and the pop art movement that there were only few stellar people and eight if you really look to the market carefully could see those people maybe immediately jasper johns warhol lichtenstein oldenburg those weren't rosenquist of those were the people who were important to it was another one

and you could see almost immediately that they were going to be the superstars and arrest them or fall away by studying the market by eye watching the prices by walking the demand of the people what how many people one of those paintings is a really good clue that end up on the market for surrealist take an answer of market for super realistic paintings i was in gold a few years ago i think i stayed away from that because i always thought that there was one guitarist and i was asked this and it turned out that that's so old that there was he was asked this and he is the only one whose paintings or not inactive on school it is huge you know which would be i can tell which artists are going to be famous by hacked by the demand by how many clients or wanting those works i was writing about them which museums are buying them when all these things are taken into consideration you can figure out who are the superstars

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