Conversations with Eric Hoffer; 11; The New Age

but we are a call for their coffers first book the true believe it was published fifty years ago in a recent reissue of the book dr sidney hook in his introduction describes it as a classic it is safe to predict writes dr hook up a true believe it will be read by future generations in order that they may understand not only their past but their present the true believer was the first of three books written by mr hall for the other two or the passion state of mind a collection of aphorisms and most recently the ordeal of change these books are the distillation of the observations and experience of forty years as a migratory farm labor and as a longshoreman

despite his success as an author mr harper continues to earn his modest living as a worker on the san francisco waterfront mr hoefer we have i think a passion for naming things we must have a name for everything i'm curious to know what name in there you would give this generation in which we are now living with hiv aids in general impressions and to be that age wouldn't even be fatal the rocks whatever you open the book gori was that the discussion before you or you're dealing with mass production mass consumption mosque culture mass communication mass media mostly sad must that we blame the masses on our heels you know ordering well blurry vision of our culture for the atlantic division of our social order for the ferocity of all wars

for the emptiness of our way of life and of course we blamed them for their population explosion hits when accused of a bit on the contrary i meditate on the country in which they are the masters in rent that they are attitudes and peace on the whole official side every civilization when your list that the us shipped by excluding minorities or king no roots with gripes only through that shit but in math why would this be so much of a wider marketing deal will you see you had to discover a new world and used that they believe they chant they mass is their first chance to show what they could do or now when this debate even here in america of a massive on their way out

and files solve vehement the mother was taken right there and this year it's because what i see the innocence and ahmed what about in manassas would become an operation the name isis it really becomes in a meadow cicadas want that all the working force will be able to produce all the continent and there seem to be any more a place you go for the special counsel them that they used to be a time in this country when the leftist activists are quieter than it or they plunge into and now nolan vicuna land they built cities on the state's problem that you face and this what i called you about that story about a head of british intellectual from the movies go to refrain about the epa that will i name anyhow he

was ok you know by the monarchy and they will not be on the names of the counties sort of the window where you had bit promising to lower richardson new ideas and this and that or poorly had no inkling off the unprecedented make your twenties so for the first time in history any time began or quibbles build a pound and calling up a family and death of what's in it the irish woman governor perry next to human which you heard news corp into slot think she said i'm sorry i married i got to get to the oh yes the masses made america shape the future of its normal so america's future is being shaped our income asked italy complex and expensive laboratories manned by something you've spoken earlier conversations to hover over the role of the missteps you said i

wouldn't do it at a man who won a bet that i was the misfit toward the masses unable to tutu pioneers these conferences no no no no no no the new frontier is that they will play for the mets and this week there's a line in the ordeal of changing life going again and again i'm i'm falafel buildings for the fact that a commission that will eliminate the week from shipping humanity will be the uniqueness of men was just this scene at the wake of the species but activists finally available or push the button now we go on their way out and whether they will be safe especially it's an update of the massive it's the age of the intellectual look around you anyway you're you've been out there know what i'm going to do about building a new so you know everywhere you see the intellectual for the first time in history the intellectual is coming or mean

he's now leading role model lead the field of science civic ritual are there and so on but also includes of action and of our four new he has entered the stage of history now as the absolute terror as a military leader that's what first time as they like scale in boston is add the ante with a colonialist but the plot was even thought it was to be after we've actually that i am talking about the election of investor outside the united states are not talking about a medic and intellect that again and they like to let the rain was when a massive and he's also unemployed and you can't exaggerate the differences that made between our intellectual and intellectual outside and luckily these the new lives of america is anything else a human tide you know little yelling connect to about how like now a businessman

our images of men on the naked men on the profession i'm an altogether different in that they do not conform to like a you know the american intellectual equals outside the united states is not immediately looked up a medically recognized what needs i used to love a story about the edmund wilson know went along as many as at war and these vick ii british intellectuals were shocked over these movies these brilliant intellectual city should look so much like a businessman on them as rental fact as i want to nominate a one women in gold out of units what the is there as long form of the usual calm avoided the three went out to as automatic our latin america and when they returned they reported the most all the local labor leaders refused to believe that these were bona fide that there are working and don't forget i don't think our business man is exactly is the same as the vicinity of the look we had one of the finest unions in the war and is long long for unity on

on the pacific cause it's a really new reporter give credit to listen back to that would be friends or so we get ready to bridges and accredited fine but i give credit deal to this country and i read about business and they had given up the right buyer iran has the right to exercise power or i've only at getting its profits and profits that i think it befits the air or elsewhere this debate i want something on about the mob is that when you have a private view is that we get five million is except they're out of public office the goal to the grind of these elections they're surely don't like me like they hit a intellectual and we're all human lives in his complete list that they had been brainwashed by the math the only exception is the american new american woman that's absolutely that is the only address the radical element in our

simulation and she's the only one that really feels great about going anywhere i just i think you can see me going anywhere to try out and i would be a word to do that at all she even if we love it how the issue to resist a couple and now you know we're we read the people who are a lot of the one opponent of the fourteenth and so they do something that i can understand something about the right and good things and so that he belongs to this piece is that part eight destiny you this thing i think you can run and end the only really there were everywhere and it's not only these vivid exception intellectual you intellectual who are an exception

in bold or have exceptional achievements of heavy heavy venice international intellectual the more is he convinced that he's one of the children i think are really impatient and latin america not every student every member of the profession airfield and so that is one of the jewels in the bubble boy upwards of seventeen in kenya and about who are the main event perspective prime minister won the competition you know that they don't want you can see almost an instant see anybody that mostly right things that he has a garden ripe tomato and on the job and if you see the tremendous bureaucracy that building up such a pleasure because anytime you have a school you've got to make a new job when he's chosen people in western europe they get a situation as bad but still the average intellectual in western europe too the day books brown looks down on these big practical men of action while

operating the government clinically machinery and bid he's convinced that condemnation these practical blockheads would be lucky to remain as an anvil you know once the intelligence report it say what's the relation between the intellectual the masses what new cds intellectuals you know use for intellectual when he didn't talk the year when the essence of human role of the army spokesman the champions of the us actually that one of them was that a lot of the art that you do these is gradually their ratty old ancient civilizations where the weather years described was a member of the ruling elite and had a tremendous voting for the law says you won't be in these very grave the paintings are all the wall paintings in egypt there you always see the same thing again and again describe what you've read

and as apple's role standing alongside that was here with his wit more than facing a couple of them that the world will now return to american intellectual he hasn't always been what he's now we need and the mavs especially the middle of comedy about a little before that things were different if you really like the new england bit early intellectuals has said he only in the nineteenth century of op ed column for a week to remind you almost exactly the same one seed you would have heard the data from the year with each and friend chicken when you're officials you know right after the last war when they leave a piece that you do crapo independence and you could almost hear one day one of these are saying and all the league and to the sun just a court and you'll see what one and still make it sexy now these connection between

between the electorate important to the accident out of a field of action weekend that to date thinking of these as an idealist the head of the vice and so but he identified in the loathing for the masses you know i don't want to have to later on the moment and collecting things over there the people who get the worst fuel to get it really good either math but theres this on the edge of this connection between the political leaders and the activists of world having to realize it longtime environmentalist in eight years ago and the first time i read about her the administration or buy the ipad entirety you know what the catholic church with a link to the end of the middle ages in europe i realized that what i was seeing there was also going to refute a flowing from the north and we believe that work which

cushy jobs for a revolt by the new domain as it is the relation between yen and britain during that at all the british rock and the main inspiration was a colonial rulers i could see it right away and the results were not only religious authorities about matters of law there was a colonial revolutionary view are doing what that doesn't cry he says is the party of german politics why the shot up and the second were often withholding with arguments and i think the results of the year all over africa and yet it did appear to be europe identify these is one of the youth instance the awkward or nearly as a bike and like jewels in northern europe you know we've the city had seen things that nobody has ever seen before and didn't talk about the thing that the model for the group now we know

what happens when things become we know what i see the gleaming would open in a different now we know at the moment in elections that will be you have the likes of difference what i think that ingest generally becomes routine or whether it's the making as they think intellectuals in way in africa our nation or at home and my professors that you hadn't gotten though he feels very much like a moment alone review that's right we think before you have that will finally how they're funny bright bit like likable and what are the political consequences for the local reporters one of the most interesting work you've seen an african city that is liberation that were initiated and won't fly by night to be the resulting demographic on all the result was in a passage from the europeans i'm quoting ammon bundy you should read what the whole set

about african mother before the case at the moment it up a little bit before a global independence before cronin deputy defense the horrible although michael you can read economic innovation of the year edition and publish an inventor with a publishing in there as anyone to roll each will have weakened in financier right now the moment you mentioned the book but nobody gets the gift also a soaring bamboo want to be reminded why what little bottle put a pause to the belgian officials what they proposed was that the budget and the african intellectual and tibet one eight nations were the masses and get their way the masses below you know if i i can't understand this one and i can't understand and get

a completely mental is always on the map i can explain anything that i think right around the world and show you our home or he must be founded on the only one that we speak of mind of this apartment and it's like that's the pr people who aren't at the problem or that openly hit by three or of people and yet to be united and he normally empty not only you know he has a penchant for regulating force of providing for the record you know and not only these pension horses in greater society a regiment that but he actually doesn't feel it in their faces in the distance it all i mean come on you know you want the nicest views about you as a silent were shipping before he comes to go fight for phrases that gets it that the

changes at the moment he gets and how they see the whole thing at the pupil the zone and just what i think our exporting more than a point but they say one thing about the promise of a one thing in particular that with over how was of imagination i can't understand that that last that hunger or before an intellectual force for public and hopefully if you just listen to what the h lawrence's i remember that passage because i can we never could never quite understand it he says humans storm needs me means spending quotations i asked auction go to glory or would need more than it needs at least more than we need for that debate it is and you know i don't think that the average american intellectuals with

humans but allegations of the rich i think anytime and american self styled intellectual big instantly likable or intellectual you have a man and that was surprising for the locals about women often at the script was one that you want to read a few notes it's intensified when a director is florence that and who also he felt the theme of the right to open the millions or you can really lose hope the world of policy and the like it's going to be he was really for him but he had one thing every american annual reasons why they're all with me for intellectuals can can can imagine that that oswald did it by himself and about oswald had the organizing ability how did that and he looked at all the next pandemic in people

and his four infections than one billion of that anti koran of people there and the american intellectual heavy influence of one of one level with the babysitter that awful thing the act of our intellectual when eu offended to vietnam coverage now than anywhere you get a lot of work before you know he fights with them were deported as long as he's here willing to rejoin the massively keeping watch you don't want the public to get get away get that things begin to now is that they wind up what i would like and i don't know much about about oh i want to show you that what does an economy around by intellectuals you know it's funny that you know me here sitting on the waterfront looking across the pacific across the country well maybe

look at them out when you would be in russia and china being in cuba and even offered the baby's father then work but instead of finding ways to the their clothing accounting for the common people you had huge the real george barris your genes in which that you in a in iraq who had that yes ninja level want and yet everywhere you were russia awkward moment with iran would have to carry some order in reykjavik he thought there would be a platform for watching that had particularly for the four corners and carry people then look and coupled with everything is the mean he is seen at the va they can connect to help is not interested in practical things that he has on them for practical he's looking for a set of the economy because he care about the economy you know he can preach marks that my empathy mark says the

communal the economics even shame shaping back to work or sort of wanting to let you get into power is an event with economics i want to shape history and economics gets out with investing and uphold the microphone at the get up winning but it can't be the intellectual thinks it prep pasta original that all the discoveries of science all the things of your shoes are going to be calling for a ten day and plenty about the colorado humanity ball they did award for that and its remarkable again and again you'll see the intellectuals do not believe the highway i think it's it can be a watchful society and all the push you can be and maintaining awful people that was just for me a way just couldn't find work for the future and then he makes a difference and i can modulate the kidnapping the latter of the cupboard is the interaction of intellectual bomb in africa all of them say that that if you

work for money that's anything but even want to work for words the hot day at bats it will be no surprise you know these kids and every of that i hear the voices and that was a sign that and know that what as i didn't like what's more than it is if they were not being rattled illinois people to work for what is up an instrument covered with asian optimism and also for survival apathy that but that probably is that it doesn't just you know the enthusiasm that totally i think that the electorate generate if that was you know at the moment attention eases and separate out into an everyday routine the math you can see

baby buggy the actor though they paid for the condo them over the village of those years eve is that around an independent election rather see the jobs to buy and so we're going to see and so what do you have to say that sentence for economic press and becomes an absolute gob doe et it's without asking me see the project through the riots the sense of usefulness and work from directing and supervise an order that he has to ask you it's vital you see that caught people are incompetent the corrupt anti zionist c because if you don't him evolve in that if you leave the level of their way to do it and this will be the year they knew that that would probably wouldn't believe it now

the city to do about the whole nation to act like a local right only more money but i mean the white people of view that day i met with without permission in this will be intellectuals will come to that i'm not afraid even beyond intellectually is he's going to debut the political causes that whisper about an order it reviews of the actual sort of three things that will make it a jewel like everybody into an e and lesbian population that will have exercises were everybody everybody will be an intellectual so they think that it just as if you want to be the biggest artist about you don't have about embarrassed about if you want but because of the big business that everybody there was a solo albeit elective of plainfield i have a hole in my mind with a

woman's death is the beginning of the pilot biggest slice of northern california with michael sullivan ordered reform and speak with the government would be run by the university of california and anybody that crosses that one i think of this i think i can the season and the season at an audience at the local level the voting while a little demeaning to lead to a chance to exercise is there but also for protecting now so they can speak he should fit in yes yes jewels is just a minute one becomes a student of those were not everyone and you can imagine what it's like this one of the humvee by the faith it's more urban schools look at the school district we would have the job of developing only natural and human quality of life you know

always beginning something else they're at high it gets good because it would eliminate the rise in the road for those who enjoy it and the fire and the leafy and that all that important that he gave on this week a couple of days and what was that they didn't see how a president that's the only sectors that didn't act or not without know but the next time we talk mr hopper and then ask you some personal questions because you've made many literary references in our conversation today and ask you about your reading about how you do research prof beatrice your conversation between the recall for and james durfee general manager of

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