Forum; Vincent Bugliosi: Outraged At The Simpson Trial

from the longhorn radio network the university of texas at austin this is for him there may be some announcements never seen a vincent bugliosi former los angeles prosecutor and author of the new york times bestseller oh great even with this jury was not a jury even with the judge was not a good judge even with this defendant was extremely popular if there had been a powerful prosecution and keep us performance that would win a conviction in this case most assuredly if not a conviction an absolute minimum a hung jury so i mean

this is olive green the interview today and forms with vincent bugliosi co author of the controversy a bestseller how great the five reasons why oj simpson got away with murder the public plan just by promising five reasons listed the real ceiling is blamed for italy at the feet of the prosecution and he takes their case to task i've never seen a case where the prosecution decided not to introduce a great amount of incriminating evidence in every heart of a case like that i had been are now late last month with lying in america too detectives in the case of the three was for crying in our beer what happened and they told me that in the over five hundred homicide cases they've been on investing over a quarter say they've never seen another case with a didi sides to withhold so much evidence from the jury and the reason that they get them i really had to be sitting down for that staggering it was the suicide know i mean come on if someone is charged with a murder and they're innocent if you're innocent it seems to me that some sort of an extremely angry that

someone was charged with murders that he did not commit one a clear is named best we prove his innocence final whom are the mothers to china know he writes this note that farewell is exactly like a suicide note in for some jobs lost person show me all of an innocent person charged with murder in the face of this report writer not like it reeked with phil wang and then at one of the deep offer they didn't offer a dvd reason and just short while after the slow speed chase what if it isn't as possession of the gun a passport cheap the skies safer fresh changes weather clothing ac collins a driver gets out of the car buying season is pockets are bulging acid neons pockets eight thousand seven hundred dollars in cash which oversees the telling that simpson again an insider bravo jury never saw it not for not for the passport why just got a passport i was just think that escaping invite you think of his kidneys he's innocent most unbelievably and assist the day after the murders parker center lapd headquarters one thirty pm one

one thirty five pm a lange and then aaron terry gipson to thirty two minutes i didn't fortunately you know the audio that they can interrogation end of transcribers in the book is the only book of the simpson case as interrogation at langham analysis and showed it as a problem here we got blood in your ear you're broad gold the driver your home not what congress for just one more when they were talking to him this is before all they withdrew any blood from his arms it would've hit any opportunity to plant or sprinkle which is moonshine ever happened to the point i'm trying to make is that this before they took a lot from him and they're talking about the blood already in his broccoli dry when the home and they it and ask them how come well simpson was stuck in that answer he said i cut myself last night i was bleeding heart to cut yourself or previews his exact words i don't know later they asked him again hard to cut choppers answered i have no idea man now all of stuff to think about this for just a moment or not talkable maker scratcher actually contrary what laypeople think since it had for cuts and seven abrasions on his hand his

left hand the worst one by far was a deep cut to the knuckles left little fingers ben is it the thunder talkin him he says he has no idea about that that ridiculous statement all by itself and my mind shows an unmistakable consciousness of guilt but more importantly here's the key point all as far as i'm concerned what is the statistical probability what is the likelihood that around the very same time that simpson's former wife a male companion or brooding or that even innocent become so very badly i've been a member there was a five million one of them again it's quite a coincidence at the very time that these people being murdered is two miles away a coronation innocently cousins over a badly cut yourself our pleasure fred to frenzied state you know as he must have been and you stop the bleeding with your hand your handkerchief in you put on a bandage you know with all the plates so i'm telling all of these if you listen to the audio you hear some sense admitting dripping blood on the night of these murders he says he has no idea that cut and the

prosecution did not offer that you give me a yellow panama hundred hours i would've convicted him an unstable didn't offer a wide and they often well one reason that they offer apparently is that he did not confess you're right that's what sits with which is of course he's not going to confess who expected him to confess okay beyond that they said he denied he denies guilt in these suicide note he denied guilt arms on the european missiles bj some summer fall apart was more than friends benign go protest his innocence thirty two that interrogation is expressed a good idea but sarkozy's he's denying guilt who expected him to confess and here's what they say if we've been on for this evidence was we didn't want the jury to hear simpson denying guilt it not confessing without is taking the stand the jury already knew that cincinnati nine killed the newly pled not guilty that's why they were there that's why there have the trial obviously feud confessed if he had pled guilty to one of the trial we don't keep out this extremely

powerful evidence of guilt just to prevent a jury from hearing something that they already knew was a possible that they don't get this kind of a case all the way to trial there are often debated a plea bargaining salary or true not for the vast majority of cases are paper although the vast majority of homicide cases are not plea bargain the majority even of those not the vast majority more school cases ninety five percent or plea bargain when you get into murder now they dont plea bargain them quite as much i don't know what the percentage of be my guess is somewhere around fifty five sixty percent but they had experienced homicide cases billboard and clark yeah r clarke was considered to be among the top prosecutors in the office no one i've spoken to said the guard was clark brought go arn the borders i understand your city appointed clark and when hodgman hodgman had chest pains had to leave and clark bought abroad barton aboard odd garden there's less to the sky the needs the eye on a good example give you many

many exempt but i'll just give you one darden tells the jury and file summation i've been prosecuting bad cops for seven years sons in a way to allow the va doesn't prosecute bad cops in the rodney king case is no exception and i'll give you a hundred percent guarantee that ten minute video of that beating no one would have ever heard the name rodney king ok know her debate and no choice they had a prosecutor please because the crimes and fell so started thinking when cisco prosecuting these cops in the middle the night with the goblins are talking i don't know about this is it written articles are in a national magazine are saying that the the da discussed are prosecuting the pleas for police brutality against the minority communities and all the statistics that they were doing anyway they've lost richard called dowland the a's officer spoke to two prosecutors down there who were in the special investigations division of the da's office of time the gardens are between nineteen eighty seven nineteen ninety fours what's a storyboard darkened prosecute bad cops for seven

years now he prosecuted one case a misdemeanor case darden prosecutor the place was a misdemeanor not a felony the last say prosecuted one misdemeanor case and seven years leading up to this trial now before that he handled i understand it what cases the bill's seven years one misdemeanor case and seven years the last thing he's telling people he's been prosecuted that he's been investigating cops for seven years the prosecution and the da doesn't prosecute bad cops in la what sells lakers tonight on both sides well i'll tell you what there's denial on the part of the defense attorneys on the photograph in the book here on the lookout rage showing the moment that the jury came back with their the verdict of not guilty and tells the forced to read one word if you believe that your client is innocent and work is repackaged the jury's not guilty you celebrate

your happy and innocent person been found not guilty of the fifty photos our current gashes got this look on his face like oh i can't believe this odd shapiro looks like he just heard that his daughter was run over awe home bailey believes that the stern look on his face the only one that shows any any celebration are always not smiling are happy but he's clutching senses are mrs cochran is the only one since said scott this quizzical look and say he's like what you're going to lend me walk right here because the windy going to walk out you're the second layer of course i'm says gary trying to look on his face the next page shows to blacks celebrating very very happy with the verdict in another seething because the point these blacks don't know what happened they think a sensuous framed and are happy that he was found not guilty of people didn't know what his defense attorneys scissor or you're the look on their face you know the question about this man's skull most of

the defense attorneys have to create plays i got you a greed lust or that they were looking for the truth of them were i think the prosecution was either but they have to at least present cases ok how they have to try to defend their right to india and i don't i don't criticize him for that ok i don't criticize him for that they can vigorously defend their client that you build a certain things you don't falsely accused innocent police officers to frame your clients that he'll do that and they know darn well that there was no frame appear there's no evidence of her frail it's as pure unadulterated nonsense and they know that's a good bet to these photos if he had been framed that means us interact and to celebrate know celebrating her you don't falsely accused he's the play's of framing please don't frame anyway excessive force please brutality why in the cover up by the police yes frame up absolutely not it's extremely rare i'm not black but believe me i know enough about law enforcement i've talked enough to black people talk to enough black people please framers

of the black community is extremely uncommon you don't make an accusation like that you don't fraudulently inject race in the case to the detriment of your own people the subtle racial case here the rodney king case of racial place maybe if some young black or been charged with murder a white police officer that would be racial case this case was this is a man who happened to be black murder his former wife a male companion nothing more nothing less and cochran in the other showing no respect no concern for the black community say blatantly and cynically used the black community to their long term detriment i've never heard so many anti black remarks as everett says this verdict he used them just to help his client was black in color only disguise not typical black man he left the black community years ago he'd need a roadmap to get back to the hood he's never been associated a black cars as he marries a white woman lives in the white part of town news exclusively in the land

the bbb the white social establishment world and the blacks were supporting like the center of the civil rights leaders say all types of things went wrong in this case all of the company that would not have gone wrong eternity plus performance by the prosecution say if i had been a prosecutor in this case some of boasting this guy would not be on a golf course right now say i'm a convicted him and let alone under what the dream team have been up to the occasion well first place it's these incredible simpletons in the media that color these wars a dream team i was interviewing playboy magazine before the trial started and i pointed out the first time that anyone i've read it there's twelve hundred credentialed members of the media with nothing else to do the check the backgrounds of people that they didn't learn as i did that this was shapiro's first murder trial ok me repeat that again his first murder trial johnnie cochran to my knowledge had never won a murder case before a jury and thirty two years in alleys mostly civil

air bob bailey had distinguished himself in the legal profession no question about it but the last big case he tried was twenty years earlier the hearst case which was considered to be a workable case the legal community lost how do you take a lawyer was trying his first murder case another one is never wanna murder case before and allow another lawyer loss last big case he tried and convert them into the dream team on or convoluted logic of theory it's called a willy nilly theory see it as just the simpletons in the media that's the background the lawyers not know the trial they were spectacularly ordinary kay because one thing about that it take pride in i never make a charge enough support in see this is why this book outrageous shot up to number one on the new york times bestsellers with a nickel on charges but i support everything i say idle section in the book on the dream team i point out all the blunders that they made that a deputy public defender would not make but i'll say this they were much much less incompetent than the prosecutor's work much less

incompetent and the two dna lawyers were certain topic i mean check and neufeld they are pioneers in the field but not the dream team nonsense actually an ear to the detriment of the prosecution as people see would expect to see in this series looking at the screen came think all these the best war is a legal profession probably expect detour thought that they were scoring more points and be more effective than they actually were because you'd expect as it well you had in some cases someone that juries don't see very much like the avuncular the moment for instance now it really didn't do too much of an injury usually argued the motions a legal motions of confront you know i'm not even sure he held one witness i don't think he had one witness for the jury will think he did he was seen by the jury sitting down the record but he had a little emotions which is not from injury so in your reconstruction of what

you feel should have been presented to the duke for the jury which are stronger said well i i mentioned the tsarnaev a suicide note yeah the statement that they don't have the state redistricting blunders know i got caught the passport the cheapest guys also they should have offered the victory and this was also say the bulk of the receipts for the purchase of that of the disguise as close to two weeks before the murders oj simpson is not a typical celebrity city it's well known that all the sense of love to be seen in public a typical celebrity has been defined as someone who spends all us life try to become famous that was to become famous they wear dark glasses on all recognize that's nonsense and even his own book he talks about the fact he loved to be seen by the public and shaker heady get depressed what was the scene why does this guy by reese see i mean why does he buy ah cheap disguised to issue for the murders let him take the stand and explain why for the first time in his life is is there another time when commodity evidence of it a felony for disguise the

offer that the prosecution didn't contest the conspiracy issue i saw that no one else did and that say i'm brian honest it was a lot of not that bright either bred to see things that other people don't see at least in the criminal law the main defense in this case all of which had to be really blunt at them or say you're guilty of us is a friend of the defense was screaming please conspiracy to frame simpsons and planted evidence before the first witness was called at the trial cochran is open statement made all these allegations during the trial every witness the prosecution called also witnessed the defense attorneys and cross examine him constantly suggesting something nefarious conspiratorial or not ninety percent conference finals a nation dealt and one where both conspiracy theory duffy a halfway decent prosecute don't you sit down with a yellow pad or whatever the modern day prosper use a computer what have you are still in the nineteenth century i wrote this book with a number for pencil are don't you sit down to your parents

and spend at least a hundred hours coming up with eight nine ten part for us to knock down the heart of the defense case because of the jury thinks he's framed he walks out a core message that would happen what were the jury country what if i were to tell you that in the eight hours of summation of these prosecutors gave instead of devoting name number of two hours knocking on a hard offense case unbelievably no other ever read i couldn't come up with they devote about one minute one minute it ours this six hundred pages a final summation transcript about one patient a six hundred where there are dressing themselves the conspiracy issue one minute to knock down nine and a half months of conspiracy allegations one minute to convince as jerry there was no conspiracy that's why nobody no one would do that no one in this building right here if i came up with a message about a prosecutor which are at the past that simpson a year from now you're going to get an argument going whoa you think about it you talk to twelve twelve people you think about art as long as you want if they're going to get up there for one minute know with a blind to the power very

well but they don't know they they knew oh that the heart of a defense case was conspiracy i'll give you a little cooler you know people i asked me why were they so i was like yes wire michael jordan larry bird great bass papa papa we will deliver a yellow y parte this is a partial explanation for illegals to incompetence i confirmed that these prosecutors were the four thirty in the morning the more the day begins estimation not work and are preparing preparing it for the first time i do it the night before i give my summation i go over it for the tenth time i try to get a good night's sleep these people before thirty the morning all like college students cramming for an exam preparing it the next day next day not the next day several hours later there for the jury in the same things like this i think this i think that maybe are members better than mine is inexcusable see you've done more preparation for this interview right now you'd probably fall about all that new job you take years and notes they're up the middle of the night preparing

estimation may now why this song copy of all i cannot tell you or they have a leak well you know they're both darren and clark are fairly intelligent and they had experienced talk i don't see why they were utterly it if i had to guess i would say that in previous cases they didn't have that as a lot of them for a lot of people oh out the corner cause you know even the eagles taking a beating up every wednesday to be in the cia were trying to know no because ito allowed the defense to to inject race into this case in violation of such a thrifty to the california men's coach takes too much time to go on to niger to tell you that he should've kept about its balance do you balance the relevance of evidence in this case for news man word against the damage to the prosecution and the relevance of firming used the n word is extremely remote at best i was baileys young finest hour daily are true true but it's extremely remote

were as the damage to the prosecution was more than the requisite its requisites substantial in the statute it was monumental so he allowed the jury to inject race into this case but i can't how do you not have the prosecution again on believable incompetence here's what you do with a mark for you don't do a darkened you don't ask for an awkward interviews and we're darn i mean a firman says no leader that really gets you to do is sit for a rundown to ruminate on the facts of life's us can you tell them that you know you say in your heart you know the defense has given two statements to the prosecution heart from credible people no axe to grind that he'd use the n word that his disability pension hearings years earlier he'd use the n word so you don't ask and you tell him that he's going to testify to the truth on the witness stand not to jeopardize the prosecution you give me a half are at mark for anatomy and cough it up and you put that evidence on yourself you put it behind you becomes a dead issue one of the jurors said in a book written after this

case why did you admit it we know that the pleas use words like that with discrete element the criminal element he did a lot better off he would have increased his credibility with this you're not only didn't the prosecution all do i just suggested by putting evidence on first preempting the defense putting it behind you the fermentation of the women admissible or after they would be beaten anything but then when the defense did that when they offered that evidence that he used the n word and even at races was a prosecution do they stay away from from fermin with a devil stays with holy water here is on a marcia clark and file summation do we wish this man did not exist on the face of this planet answer yes foreman is not that bad a guy not that bad and i see his mother are supporter but with a half ago and she was crying and she said this video signal the person in this country christopher my son in lapd turned out ok work for without that bad a kid he used to be a racist a little question about his lyricist but the firm and

tapes call that the nineteen ninety four the last time at fermin use the n word on the fermentation is nineteen eighty eight six years earlier mark fermin has been confirmed the question about i have black friends in nineteen ninety four he was getting up to three mornings a week a five in the morning to play basketball fellow black officers more importantly in nineteen ninety four not confirm mr ron phillips from its partner and the da's office in nineteen ninety four mark firm and worked very hard to see a black man named eric harris who's been charged with the murder of a white man jon stewart when it came upon evidence favorable letters from about the da's office to dismiss the charges against harris okay now if if if you have the firm and tapes being perceived by everyone has been devastating to the prosecution don't you automatically offer to this predominately black jury the fact that mark fuhrman work hard to free a black man who was charged with the murder of white bush will automatically do that they didn't do that say they offered no evidence they just abandoned him completely they joined in the vilification of him don't you

argued to the jury if you're halfway decent prosecutor that if in fact what the defense says about her menstrual that he's a racist that's why france in some senses but that's what the guy does he frames blacks because he hated blacks build your biggest injury when a wall folks this guy's been on the force for nineteen years he's arrested hundreds upon hundreds of blacks used to work south central which is almost all black why weren't are preyed upon people take a stroll folks to tell you ladies generally jury that the sky framed me for burglary robbery a murder if you can frame by mark furman but see for a burger you said you spent five years as and what you get out in the sky firms in the news don't you call cochran a meeting take sky friendly but you know they're not going to want to deal with this guy but uribe a hero to many in the black community though sawyer story not one black person took the stand at this trial and testified that mark from frame the one not one up a y bowl has no such

black men exist that is moonshine it's nonsense the prosecution didn't make that argument see there and they are responsible for this guy beat at the olympics the olympics and the church recently passed an innovation his golfing with a smile on his face that the jury were not bad people here they were particularly bright i want to talk about the blacks and talk about three whites but they were decent people many that were biased but if you put a beard on them a new spawn feed them hugo overcome those problems only type injury you cannot turn around is a type injury whose state of mind is even though we know oj is guilty we don't care we like oj blacks had been discriminated against by white's truck ears were getting into free murders but i don't believe that for one moment extremely difficult to find even one juror that terrible state of mind much less all twelve in and looking at the black hat at the backgrounds of these years for instance the the foreperson sense injury was nineteen ninety la county employee here listen to what they said iranian television or read in a book written by

three them i get no sense at all that even one of them had an unconscionable state am i and i don't believe it for one moment the prosecutors allow the jurors to live to live with her conscience that's what happens day after i wrote those words in the first draft i read the book right by the three years in the four person among the cooley said when i was back and you're all i wanted i wanted to be able to live with myself that's was she settles the same thing that i've said that to see if you're a top prosecutor eliminated the jury's mind all possibilities of the coin back with a not guilty verdict even be so powerful that they feel they have no choice but the convict if they don't convict and a decent people probably some people there that have to live with that the rest of their lives at the prosecution did not do that here so that that the prosecution deserves the blame for the result in this case not the jury and not the defense for smoking ears oh yes of course of course you know when i say not the jury the jury was bad that they did the defense use smoke and

mirrors in the fraudulent issue of race leader was bad many bedrooms of his guess but all those could've been overcome by a plus performance payday and again and former los angeles county author of the bestseller outrage the five reasons why oj simpson got away with murder published by norton views expressed on this program do not necessarily reflect the views of the university of texas at austin or the station technical producer for form of parker i'm your producer and host olive green businesses

are available and navy purchased by writing for and cassettes communication giving the ut austin austin texas seventy seventy one to that's for a cassettes communication at ut austin austin texas seventy seven wanted to this exchange at the university of texas at austin this is the longhorn radio network it was b this week former los angeles prosecutor vincent bugliosi there may be someone that i don't see it wasn't war ii singapore's messy incompetence i expect never seen it

the oj simpson trial this week on for him nice nice