Genetics and Ethics

or are you the other i confess that i'm not certain whether this morning in this morning's lecture or this afternoon fletcher and as much as there are some questions about the extent to which politics and that's excess operable in the state of texas i think this is on imports i wouldn't know what to end by two to engage on his existence that dialogue and jews for a little while after his lot oh i've been thinking about collecting some of mine brief essays on the subject of talking about indian idol going on recently is that for me it's confused the committees but i was in the confused and i thought

i was going to start with that fixing politics so i would find it very hard to justify distinction for the purposes of this discussion i don't want to suggest that there are no differences between huge field of inquiry that deserve more careful saw more careful statement that i made about them doing our work here in fact i put this afternoon a little bit though more brightly importantly a lot of nerve about ethics something like telling other people what they ought to do that i mean everyone has a free license to talk about politics and google myself of it the i'm trying to elaborate a few areas in which our new knowledge of quality of his problems of decision both personal and social why you want to share with you

what cities and likely to face some of the difficulties that i doing movies concerns i have no magic formula the recipes are maybe a little bit upsetting by raising questions that do not have an obvious and easy answers far i have not invented these questions from the work i do in the laboratory contribute them but they're part of a general march of science and do not know about them would probably be much more injurious and much more humane and to know all about them we face some problems of knowing only little bit incomplete knowledge about a situation that's a little knowledge is very dangerous thing as you well know oh no the land is that the biologist faces in trying to find is trying to define man offered a certain sense it's part of a continuum you start a part of an evolutionary

is very closely related all species around him for all we do not have so much difficulty in defining madison natural species along slowly primates that we have had under reasonable observation of things stand out pretty clearly what that ought to say quite grueling but they have not been subjected to experimental lead to some of the heart tests to which we subject some of our domestic animals and trying to decipher their bodily fishes for example i do not know of any sarris recorded investigation the possibility of hybridization among many of the irish primates are also the virus asian man with other primates and the rennet and chimpanzees or the gorilla most plausible candidates

i'm not suggesting that it's likely that they could produce oil hybrids what i am suggesting that we do not know for a fact about what would happen if there were an attempt to fertilize a human sperm or consequences more bizarre combinations in this like these external appearances have sometimes were there are differences in chromosome number that there are differences in chromosome number between the jack larson there are rules around all those are off i think is a point of some interest as a hypothetical question as to walk the position and that all psychosomatic unity ought to be with respect even two attempts at this kind of isolation also problems in particular what would you what would you do in the event of success because you hadn't noticed the civic hybrid on there's

no telling what it's about our characteristics might be what's been suggested that they would be very lonely nothing else and that this is a kind of inhumanity or in a deity that we are not accommodate the end there's some force in that argument i think you know one of the purposes of experimentation of a was out of his way to inflict unnecessary and happiness i think as humans however we have a very large scale like much greater happiness or do the things that make others happy for much less trivial reasons we're perhaps identify myself on one side of an ethical continuum by suggesting that you are ot with others' conditions under which would be desirable content such

experimentation i think you saw and human nature mike you teach like finding out exactly what did happen if a hero edward albee fertilizer plant was all would outweigh many other considerations august the progeny are likely to be unhappy i than we might then consider whether to alternatives less to establish his heroes the number of individuals he produced in this way are often do us official large scale it might see you enjoy each other's company more successfully than we do easy this issue has been brought up very beautifully today biologically impeccable work of fiction of what their core they met today it has a somewhat more obscure english department translation the coal and you shall know him

and he explores infection the consequences of the discovery of some natural i proved cell condominium was under the efforts to move the humanity and the resulting i guess you know the situation in this was difficult for macy's obviously something and buy most conventional criteria and first an observation we are assessing enough intelligence that they would make additional rest of animal also more than most we now have five capability or to take another reason that we're imprisoning the conflict about their rights as individuals versus economic utility has domestic animals i strongly recommend to you makes a problem more difficult and while posing with my mom was a lot of jesus and that is that this disease is frost fertile on the one hand with

manning and therefore oil does not allow us to avail ourselves a great easy a lot of criteria for specific audience he points to the so whereas there are legal protections for human beings there's no warning legal definition of the human being and having a french family that's the british fishing on the back by suggesting that the enactment of a lot of british parliament actually the best way to establish a precedent set in this manner in his hero goes to great lengths to try to prove that it's a species that deserves the rights of humanity a dozen boys singing humane act mainly by murdering hybrid offspring so you know that this disease does this all aol and domestic costs for murder as a bassist the definition of humor schick question is not so grotesque have one ask

oneself what about the other monsters that occasionally issue last question what point are they no longer human on all kinds of mosul anomalies appearing nations we don't have any clear definition and i'm not sure we want to just one of the rigid in terms of what it's perfectly obvious in these days of organ culture that there is no better living tissue that cannot in principle be kept alive and the question as to what the responsibilities of position our work towards a human life and i have a very cogent former oh as we develop our technical capacity to support life was not a problem fifty years ago the question of what could and would not be viable under natural circumstances suffer that for

individuals that could not see themselves are not be partly fed otherwise seven for seven for you we have a continuous tradition of artificial devices of antibiotics metal supported measures and as i say there is no this issue in isolation he cannot be kept going in there and in the absence of a clear picture what meaning we talk about him being referred to the rights of the human being left in somewhat of a dilemma furious that the genesis an evolutionist laid the foundations of the evolution of our evolutionary humanism which is a very admirable statement of the rights of men offered also furnished the experimental dilemmas real science which owned a lot of dilemmas of exactly what is a man mm

hmm by the way i want to encourage you to read records book and not give it away but i will say i'm i'm puzzled about whether to accept his mother this morning i refer to a prenatal diagnosis as a technique which is already available for re purposes is coming almost routinely useful for passing the status of a fetus is on his mother was an artist disease and that's a sentiment in the week but there are some obstetricians who are particularly angry and often would cause aw in this is easy genetic differential movie mother and an oscar and this is a sign of genetic differential between mother and father sahel results in the

formation of new aren't substances all in the fetus that are not present on the mother all especially in later pregnancies possible quality to sensitize another to become immune aziz says it's a current issue and until this was clearly understood we have a very serious condition disease a new or arch disease which has very much less consequential what it was and how to deal with that but still important in dealing with the tribunal as early as possible status of disease and whether maternal antibodies are getting into circulation and so for this purpose to become increasingly plausible to take samples all or run out of fluid from the fetus of the fourth quarter to find out how it's doing and we're

talking about her late in pregnancy and if that is is not doing for world showing signs of its red cells are being attacked the mother's antibodies to urge an early delivery zenger delivery why born child on the premise that in a hostile and part of the disease better outside rather than for the remaining months you are dilemma that this probably will are also there are no statistics yet as we're going to be is that in a lot of rejection thought besides operating also play on our age old fetuses is probably one of the filters for eliminating out about the disease the evidence on this is somewhat problematical but for example up and rosa commented some time ago that

the type situation all down syndrome children why children are statistically was unusually compatible with that of their parents aw it's difficult to substantiate any other explanation but that in compatibility operates with an affirmation of the fetus is often inherited rejection of the fetus of the compatibility mechanism may be helping to weed out less successful potential live births the anomalies of this time the more effective we are doing a railing against the consequences of a maternal rejection i believe the highest incidences oh affirmations it would otherwise have been naturally disposed of all you'll use our own wisdom we inevitably challenging issues we have

other information on the incidents all this disease or jazz which is of social consequences the most important is its relationship to the age of a mother ot there are two forms of the disease but the most prevalent is one which shows a rather low incidence so one in several hundred one thousand op in young mothers and starting with age forty and now the awe risk of having an accident in chromosome just usually reserve rapidly all in fact there are some statistics i could cite that would say that over age forty five or forty six more children are born with anti semitic anomaly than aboard altogether and that obviously isn't there in the collection is this case but it does suggests how frequently condition maybe you very rarely our bird says in them and interested in women are beyond the

usual us bank robbery no obviously the major reaction to the situation is more research on exactly what there is about maternal aging that results in an increasing a predisposition that this disease the characteristic incidence of a disease and in the mid forties in her mid forties is five percent or more are so few cesar to be authenticated formal corey parker's cell that the easiest to start running out though so their margins of fertility are there's obviously a social interests visualize the drama of family life that results within the family and there is a sort of burden and trying to help that we'll necessarily must do did you

use oils r o s i say that this is just there is a very serious just exactly what concerned me how to express what exactly how about the promenade specific disbursement against auburn and as they do so what support around women who for various reasons to like to have the chance or childbearing at that age is another question and this does represent one of the high risk groups of his earlier when the opportunity for checking out how it's going wasn't progress let's say fdr forty we say and having the opportunity or the option he says we're in a progressive that turns out not to be doing very well oh that older women represent a very favorable editorial such high risk situations before are you ran out and ask for an

amniocentesis this afternoon there's also more uneasy to assure that is itself a safer easier possible hazards holding a mule around where it might strike the wrong place and the body of the fetuses and while there are technical advances all time aw it's in fact true that they're not in some cases it went to measure how hard was often seems to be essentially harmless at later stages but it's obviously more difficulty or warlocks so there are seven before use as a lawyer first suggestion and it's only that has appeared literature recently that i take a little

bit more seriously than some of my colleagues insist which you'll notice if you care too and that is that over right now a survey roll our gentle anomaly <unk> this experimental easily verified in other experimental animals the lord's been known for years now and frauds sen warner often the female body of the delay the population the rallies and the oscar its relevance in mammals is of more recent vintage but it has been clearly established it's a difficult thing to do because it's hard to control operation but in the rapid population is an immediate consequence of population from what most of the species and they're one can for example use a vasectomy was male ought to induce population and then follow this awkward a proper op insemination while intact mail at various animals on the first event and then

directly study the consequences there's the question of the dramatic increase others no direct information man it's been suggested quite implausibly that the maternal age effect it was also so sadly less regular less frequent why this as a function of asian actor simply a rare occurrence what is the moral women might win conception occurred at a random time were not a motorcycle audit then maybe more likely to last season there is over it and more i don't know what i think the statistics on why this new population and not all at that closely these kinds of

events however although there is a recommended system of practice of politeness that may be inspiring to encourage fertilization of delayed aging that's a so called rhythm method there are no set in india where you are up preventing fertilization from occurring during the fertile period all and then women who mastered very very regularly fall temperatures well eleven established history of just like securing exactly the right time every month although probably users are a while mattson and values ought to sell aw unhappily not very many women fall into that category and some regularity and the torture it is by no means unusual but the attempt to vet fertilization from occurring during the time when we all it's just been shared widely

available for being set that means that if the method breaks that are written over the remains during his set aside on the calendar as you look for a doctor humans you are now the statistics on this are almost negligible there are some studies on the incidence of down syndrome catholics versus non catholics and what makes the assumption catholic someone like that use sugar jay solomon of the war we consider seriously in terms of existing statistical information but it does pose a problem for which there is a reasonable theoretical basis of that very very closely we really are interested in biology and affirmation that

surveys one of the most serious challenges to a biological out there's i might also note that senators are curators will delay our human minds although there are not going to use our curators regularly when might be concerned about a similar phenomenon a man but image as you're driving experts in this field that they have found no evidence of this in them but that may apply to most women are all and our photo more widely aware of it he says delay be reflected very readily in the delay of a natural cycle the very careful about the founding that with attempts at conception executive

salaries fertilization ivf the chances of a mathematician i think you are aware that virus infections play a very large role in production or abnormality we don't do a great deal about either printed on some women against measles before they'd like to become pregnant or giving them special and this is such a serious disease oh it's beginning to be vaccines are about to appear possible to vaccinate against us is using that maybe although i think we better be very concerned with the vaccine itself necessary capacity and hindus a halt says you know

why merlin firm to vaccination let me just mention in the side because more along that it has a great popular outcry against vaccination programs but there are many pediatricians and others who are beginning to have second thoughts about some of them about the relative balance of risk that's involved when the live virus is knowingly introduced to a large population all that far as being chosen so that has a low degree of disease causing effect automotive prevent the natural occurrence of the disease itself now we've seen some examples all potential catastrophes in recent history and be on a polio virus episode is in many ways really a scandal from his point of view and i'm not talking about the occasional cases of polio that was often from what might have been contamination so the

last eighteen virus was first those are regard as almost inevitable side effects of the introduction of the new are straying off on the field we're already been known to make it perfectly clear that although a few instances of whole life might have been for the result of vaccination many more were being prevented an outstanding one shouldn't attempt as far as possible to that the agents use in these programs that the fact that there are a few scattered cases that are induced by the vaccines are no indication not to proceed with a vaccination program one has good statistics support that kind of benefit that is capable of producing but there was another scandal or which is not to see very much publicity and i think what they want real cause for follow and that is that approximately one billion doses of polio virus vaccine had been administered people in what is certainly the largest experiment in an oscillating human

beings with an unknown potentially cancer produced virus that ever has been conducted and i hope it will be does as you may know polio virus is grown on kidneys of monkeys that are caught in the wild and brought into the laboratory lifted quarantines little while giving some veterinarians nomination not suffering from over a disease and then the kidneys have taken out chopped up and sell suspensions are used as a substitute for growing the virus the virus strains have been selected as being unionizing strength of the mountains the disease well you might've thought that the monkeys would have a revenge in such a circumstance were being used in the swelling and indeed they may have fought there is a virus which is quite prevalent often these monkeys under natural conditions caucus the forty simian virus a recording for all which was not whose existence was not known

at the time of the early work on the polio vaccine and in fact almost every batch of the sabin vaccine i guess you hear a season i met him most was certainly contaminated a very considerable degree of the virus we have no way of knowing if joe why we ever worried about it and i'm not suggesting we should be worried about it it's just that this is forty one of the missing forty one and that might have had a much more serious consequences but it turns out in fact as he forty it's injected into the newborn animals of a number of species that no one has ever done a man what a new boards of a number of other species will result in the delayed appearance of a wide variety of tumors it's very much like pulling on the virus in this respect and wonder why now as soon as animals hamsters and mice and soul and beach asked for a few days of like this affect an olympian sir and it is probably that they developed the

capacity to make an immune response to the us before the virus itself the chokes off any chance that has of watching another self induced and that's probably what happened in almost all humans to see this virus inadvertently when will be vaccinated robert wilson all that there are so and issues where the immune response is already affected for example if the finest wines removed from iceland they remain susceptible to us forty for much longer than we would be otherwise of times is quite critical for the capacity to develop immunity all there are a very small proportion of human individuals who have defected you know article law systems is you have a rare disease you have certain incidences and to my mind it's rather unlikely that at least some of

these would rather not address the forty they possibly would rather not have had the device that's in as well because we don't know anything about it harmless less of a vaccine virus which is harmless for individuals of normal robust reactive prosecution if they aren't terribly impoverished of the reaction but i guess what i'm saying is it having any large scale program on this time when it deals with large quantities are still so imperfectly understood as viruses yeah i deserve to be looked at some caution on as a bouncy an individual op if i choose not to be vaccinated are nevertheless profits are considerably if the rest of the movie is just the possibility of the chain of infection that might have recently broken what everyone else being vaccinated and i might say

well i'll let everybody else take the risk it's perfectly obvious that vaccination programs do need some degree of social decision about should be administered but i also think they need a deeper scientific insight we're still using i think probably the republican standing about the potential hazards if i remind you that measles vaccine is mona and also a couple of history your imagination the critical working there were you some extent of these possibilities i think they are not as formal as i am in awe as saying the possibility of something that they had not previously they look for all the pathogenic agents that they know about the nature of their job but the notion that there might be something new under the sun science has not yet

seen before aw is something it's very difficult to get over to a specialist in any field he documented with the notion that he knows all about her and i think this is where white degree of public information can result in asking what might be embarrassing but necessary questions you know one of the reasons that this has some reason they use at the process of virus vaccinations is in fact a historical example of genetic engineering has been a lot of talk that genetic engineering is simply implausible aw or that we would never to do it or that it won't use any good if we have to do it and i like to suggest one avenue all genetic engineering awful which a president actually exists and virus technician there is in general a very close analogy the objectives in the sense that

the techniques and the scientific basis although should recent work on the mechanisms by which dna is replicated has shown that law this is a while chemical system like everything else and metabolism that there are enzymes responsible one can all these out of the cell and reconstruction process in the test tube and it's still less than a year ago that her friend and colleague this corner in installing reported that they had aw succeeded in replicating the entire dna molecule of a certain virus other says some fifty five hundred you know it's long and this is a process that has been going on for a long time inside of bacterial cells ever since that virus was first founded but the point was to try to discover the mechanism whereby that

dna replication one can only be sure that one understands the mechanism by being in the reconstructed from mission tested and so a test uses the mode was after some years of effort in this field what are harmed her all which has in it the necessary enzymes fourteen a reputation on the circumstances that nevermind is certain errors that can take place and oz all the faithful application you know and take about a one is ok that's of our own dna that's about five thousand units of what's i thought that with the human situation which has five billion years on teaching and the art of complexity i think very seriously construction of copies of the america to philly is

when we have copies indian and we don't know that it was really useful role that they can play we don't have to copy images to get them or i could have all of your dna and no matter how admiral when you're at genetically zero was awe it wouldn't be worth her much to me i would know what to do with it from the point of view of exerting some new and unique while auto auction my development about any of my children are the problem is getting into a cell and the circumstances were and i have some news now it is true that in bacteria we do experiments every day all that character it in a form one strain of the american cultural software so we can use another one caucus extract dna from one strain in a sense either to another maverick kind of genetic nutrition wear body of strings to which it is that will in fact take up dna molecules and occasionally replaced one of their

preexisting chromosomes with him at all until recently moody's said this just doesn't happen in higher organisms and the tsarnaev has not happened according to call and this is a scientifically very interesting very revealing schiff well i mentioned you about the behavior messages warning of artists ever present some clue animals who are not as newborns my show tumors six months or a year later if the tumor cells are examined they often do not have any viruses that obviously been changed in some essential that they're trying to sell them not normal cells more recently it has been part of the viewer faces all the genetic constituents of infecting a sleek forty virus our number of ways in which has to be done and i don't have time to go into them but one can demonstrate a sense of historical

record that the dna of that remnants of the original dna information that had four juarez are still present and he's transformed so this suggests that the tumor viruses have a particular capability which previously known to exist for sale viruses and bacteria and fourteen a transfer the system that i just mentioned were by dna of external hard in the heart of the promise zones august of these cells and though you suggested said exactly that experiment there was a lot of fun with her well you are best not to discover a typical anonymous regardless translation by viruses we worked on quite a few years ago about this a lot of bacteria well also taken some while to find viruses in context my similar things as i say so far the only indication of some

similarities that you made of the virus does chris stanfield rodgers is working at oak ridge has picked up a slide or a human context user mark that you saw for at home a virus infects rabbits and use your hats off has been a subject of her considerable leverage our investigation aw in in the laboratory will among other things one of the ways in which it transforms itself the facts used to induce the formation of a new enzymes are delays which in turn lowers the blood levels of gardening in animals or virus well he did a survey of people who have been working with the show fires in the laboratory and found that they have systematically more lead levels than other people so they probably have been

so politically with the show plus in the course of their work with it and you might say that in a certain sense that have been genetically engineered because some cells in their body permanently on or as it were dr rogers is impaired discussion further and suggested a number of possibilities for exploration is useful one is to find a disease for which arguments will be useful and then you sell cars but there are signs that the seasons doesn't sell still another would be to find another virus that makes more and sing and signed an argentine sand there are any number of metabolic diseases in tampa which we know enough about which we know nothing of the biochemistry you say well i would like this trial to have a normal level of an enzyme that authorizes final album for example or names on that wall are local activists or any of a number of other specific robots that

awful which lived if your child may have a genetic differences aw if we could find other enzymes and it's by other viruses and they do this as part of their normal life cycle at what distinguishes the virus from oct well what makes a virus a virus is the fact that it is a black person that enters into a cell and that carries the kind of information that an cold war new products in a new enzymes in the cell or perturbed that sells metabolism in such a way that more viruses of the main scent of more cell phone and the number of cases so we can identify a specific new enzymes that appear in virus infected cells alive in human cells the bacterial cells but so far all of the rare exceptions the enzymes in question had to do with the reputation of a quiet gases and they have not had

an immediate interest in the clinical situation the however very few investigations of this kind of wind on the may occur virus is in nature that you have well if you stop to think about an ordinary vaccination is accomplishing exactly the same thing we are genetically defective insofar as we don't have the genes to result in spontaneous production of a anti polio had a bottle as a result we're allowed to certain diseases are and the week you were not allowed to go to school unless we are altered mr koeppel genetic information to the point were capable of producing and that an audience a rather circuitous route but we are being re engineered to satisfy an urgent medical purpose now the sanctions ever important distinction much of the emphasis is that we do not france matt exchange in information of our germ cells are therefore there's no danger that can produce offspring that has

spontaneously afternoon to a polio what we have the option of doing the same seed you're in the next generation the next generation and in mind when i talk about evolutionary ethics this morning my belief and i think that this is just as well i guess is probably just as well that we do not close off an alternative to our successes of the firm the words however off this is also old most effective route of genetic engineering since most of the work is done on viruses that poses no moral problem that minimizes the technical problems it makes the most immediate use of the kind of expertise that we have at the present time and i don't foresee that the specific engineering of viruses to perform other useful therapeutic tasks often extension that weathered nineties the vaccination is a very close on the horizon specific for the ways in which that might be done besides a lot of

fighting of the virus and who knows you know the cold you have three months ago maybe one we're done three sites a lot of fighting viruses that have specific kinds of information and then we just don't know very much a character the autumn at rather limited so let's try to engineer the most trying make a synthetic process of the states that have been on the kind of information one way to do it or we don't quite know how to do yet on that is to attach fragments of dna or dna viruses are carnegie carney viruses that are known all ready to have the appropriate information and a task it would not be a large growing enterprise isolate the using jargon here for the benefit of all statement

would not be grotesque isolate the messenger rna for fennel owning i brought some ways once said about this as a major national program to money and the possible for tomorrow afternoon the fracking aren't they already exist we have crude but usable methods far as saying the sort of messenger activity they have a particular got a plan to attack him on the virus's the discovery of a particular clone the virus that had in this new information would be rolling easily wield quite a paragraph two pieces of our nature to be xena together we can make them fall an actual template of all we haven't learned that last trick or lose it i really want you to go back about three or four months ago just my way of saying it is about to be seen rogers has pursued a slightly different tack another more successfully is the first tangible example early are

chemically controlled engineering of the viruses were there was a design involved words intended to edit the genetic information in very specific concrete way and where that was and then some evidence is in fact had happened we reported very recently a major auto that he was able to get a string all the call letters that we call at the end of the naturally occurring tobacco was a virus that attacks off to extend the existing information in that are required gases our ice is opposition of those who use the men's eyes while of that a rather nondescript in their function and there was simply assemble together whatever you put in only humans who is able to assemble some messages well although we're a great deal of work has

been has gone into reducing the genetic code that is how elements of my cassava translate and the genetic code for lehman almost replicate is you know acid lysine protection then as if you strung it together in some instructions it strung together some fifteen or twenty eight at the end of the t and the bottle than if you in fact leave with the virus so they should then start producing strings of my see my see mice mice six years long if they fall historian this was exactly one pound audie it's not as tight historians would like to see he's not isolated specific loans

all of the virus with this information and shown fifteen you got until i seen again at your actual icing but that's the kind of thing that in these questions will be very soon as well when you've got a wooden agree with that and i think this is much mr lamoureux and any decision to turn your back on the opportunity for therapeutic modifications of some discrepancies there is in india taking a risk and apply in situations always a clock to not use an agent that might improve it functional capacities of your child in the world tomorrow on mikey very closely now is not letting go to school so the sochi about the horrendous hazards all that engineering which was obviously always come up in this kind of discussion i really can only make that answer that

cafe live off as men whose culture is and onto a biological heritage of the largest part of what constitutes our humanity is that culture were quite artificial in a decision about what constitutes three education of an individual always set reasonable balance on the extent to which we regard ourselves as necessary court made within the culture and which we tend to do our own particular things but before you take two violent of you on that point and demand that everybody was all saying that he's saying that in english fb is busy there's one more issue that's cropped up recently which merges their politics find there's what do about the violently individualistic members of our community fought for i guess not long ago this would've been a sad place to

make that kind of comment tragic outbreak of the kind of violence that i'm for a tune from texas our state aw unfortunately as far as i know is you know examined from a psychological standpoint but our fate couple of examples so women in the award winning seven charles day a year ago were the aberrant behavior all these effects sexually aggressive individuals sam lloyd why disease or cancer so there's a certain sense in which the cubicle super males but that's a piece of technical jargon it comes out of this awful literature i think i was representing an audio that i think any of those groups

are two they're probably rather less effective casanova is standard ex wives however there is a reasonable body of evidence mostly based on an inverted argument that the most frequent occurrence of x y was to have been received so far is from samples taken from men in situations the article from going insane yeah that along the toll inmates to such institutions that we were five to ten percent of the media this year where as in the population at large we have very poor estimates of the frequency that's why why but maybe anywhere from one in three hundred to london no difference between five percent is a disease are so we have a way

in which potentially could screen a large number of individual gets me everybody at birth and find out who is a potential suspect was a potential mass murderer and recently convince ourselves that this certainly an increased likelihood of visual color category seven that he has the same chance of foliage a set of random farms as we already know about just means nothing nothing about the seven garments that turned x y was in the past into a mass murder to change that but what we do with this information all in fact even the surveys that have already been done poses the lemon very severe form because in order to establish the incidents this disease has been desirable to fostering a few thousand words altogether and somebody goes off of dozen or so a lot of these newborns as being x y why should

a writer on the one hand it would be desirable to follow these individuals up rather closely to see exactly what it is in their development history of that austrians i'm wrong way to find other ways of identifying such individuals that would be less costly than a chromosome analysis expensive proposition they've pressed be a self fulfilling proposition if i told you that you're next on and you're male self if i told you that you were next one law and make you believe that so i think you might fulfill my predictions about you and i might be the first victims well i think the more we know why the rangers also these are and i'd rather than provoke other manifestations of violence in your car or sell it it's

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