Forum; Deepak Chopra: The Path To Love

from the longhorn radio network the university of texas at austin this is for an attraction or infatuation communion intimacy and sexuality seven the passion and deep of trump off their position and motivational speaker well the question of his smart lawyers noted contribution in a sense because there's earth has outlined and all of the wisdom traditions of the world or those judaism or christianity or islam or sufism if you care to look within these traditions you find that this is the path to love and ultimately the destination it's not supposed to do to is the experience of the divine or the sacred and even and physical intimacy and relationships this is on demand today

foreign teachers are best known for his ability to communicate ways to achieve inspiration and self awareness to a vast audience through his books lectures and tapes deepak chopra has disseminated this information through his children's center for well being in la jolla calif an infinite possibilities products and seminars it is however his pbs fund raiser specials that have raised record breaking millions of dollars for public broadcasting but it made his name a household word his most recent publication is the path to love renewing the power of spirit in your life published by harmony books i make those distinctions between falling in love and being in love falling in love is a temporary state usually that gives you a glimpse of what it could be if you were being in love which means that your state of being was constantly one where you felt love for everything actually in creation myths and being in love with life as well

as killing somewhere to an intuition yes trojan becomes extremely intense and focused on one person and it takes you beyond the ordinary and beyond the humdrum mundane and the trivial concerns of everyday existence and to in a sense forced lynching and so a state which is timeless and beyond the flux of change and beyond and beyond cause and effect an infatuation is your first step into a spiritual reality is that some cultures have about love simply because they don't understand it completely baby go off in other directions about it you know if you're talking with business identity of several cultures that although the world whether

it's a jockey and what the mythology of african people so or asian people so american indians aborigines in nome in australia we talking are people very close to nature at one time limits on it is actually embodied the wisdom of all of the experience of love mythology is an interesting word and it's related to the word mother a mate or matrix and the word matter was accomplished on that measurement titan music me turn to diesel related words that your foot of the womb of creation and lewis of course has monitored many raises joseph governments and mythology is true of the industry because his two sisters and you know journalism and you know that can be but mythology catches the to a million things and dreams and longings of a culture and therefore if you really want to know what the truth about love than you must explore the

mythology is of traditional concerts long's such an intense word could it be as simple as cinemas goodness yes goodness the essential goodness the essential beauty the saints showed love a boat mess of everybody that's that would be really love this but it has these difficult expression so let's not forget that romantic love the physical love are also part of or own expression of love with love is not just that is not just an abortion just romance it includes all of them but it is a much more it's an abstract force in nature which connects everything with everything else that's where if you see a starving children rwanda something

happens to your heart what's the connection that's that connection is spiritual connection that's a connection of love in essence periods of low essentially the sentencing and it happens this forces there in a nature of the worst mergers in human beings a cat was kissinger in the running going bing each one of them out and disco knife that's love that song the ocean and then once it's even pleasant compliance initiative plants loving attention did that last and if you don't know that though is there any one myth that encompasses are you always have to put the stories together and he had to put the stories together with jill points to one direction and that is that tell that to love is the ultimate truth or part of creation that the underlying tool that buying stimulus and on this are both loved all emit support and that

the great battles between good and you know the book of new windows that create create them ago that someday we won't loving attention are the archetypes involved in these stories the arctic and supper on the architects in london the stories are definitely the architects involved in our lives so one of the things that to call you pointed out is that the news the head beneath the turmoil of our daily activities are unconscious motivations in the mythical world inside us crime of gods and goddesses a deal and to express themselves and to lift us from dr dan humdrum reno this without knowing it and that they act out to michigan motivations without being consciously aware of them striving to succeed in a corporate takeover bid politics of the heroic journey as much at the oregon not

seeking the golden fleece climbing mount everest is driven by the same ambition to reach the abort of gods as icarus flying too of the sun so and musical terms ecstasy which is the primordial an energy state and therefore the experience of love is a sacred journey into the unconscious me to the underworld or trade income plus mets from recession his abduction by pluto to orpheus seeking is brian among the shades of hades so do deep is this need for mythology and the ecstasy that comes with that and they loved that experience wasn't that when we lose it to me find it so that's a logical expressions for example today there is such a desperate need in inner cities for kids to join gangs why do kids join gangs gangs have romance

gangs home is on the two gangs have ritual gangs have initiation gangs have leadership gangs have ministry magic adventure it takes as much imagination and creativity to be a gang leader as it does to become ulysses it's just that these kids are seeking it through a substitute which may be harmful to our society but if we really understood the need for this you would not be a society that after all full awfulness of that is we have become today can we assume then that there's actually something beneficial about this experience to the individual the gang experience that's when they do it but it's not beneficial to society to see and you could take that same imaginations in creativity and create gangs and you know that they're inspired by a star trek and i know that we have a new mythology for a coach or emerging for space travel

and i personally believe that space travel as we explore outer space really give us to lose and now and to a drama to do for the new imagination for the new mythology beyond the seas of space allies are worried such as homer never dreamed of bigger than that was his phone in the iliad under the odyssey i think we're on the threshold of that and that's an ocean currents of children to explore that in fact we might come to appoint women live this out in daily life and storytelling and the solitude in whatever of new technologies that outcome won't going to come of it through seedy arms and interactive media was talk about inner space for a moment you recommend meditation in an order to reach the heart how is that space charted how are you going to do to know year where you need to be inside that

space is beyond the secret messages in the dark alleys and then ghost fanatics or mine that space is the status of solo spirit and therefore it's a space of silence and that space is actually the same as outer space i'll just face and innerspace of that you know exactly the same time in the womb of creation and the go to that space to too many things one is from solitude to silence two men did titian which is a quiet thing of the internal dialogue in the many kinds of mindfulness meditation breeding techniques month amid tensions even subtler forms of fear or recruiting mentally or a phrase like the lord is my shepherd be done if you if you keep group using that mentally without using a lip so your tongue and the time goes on that phase gets more and more faint to invade an abstract thing fates

and into the silence of eternity and you're into song the gap between points which is literally as a civilian whom creation in touch with yourself it's also the experience of love i was turning down synonyms reading to try to hold all these words together like acceptance of blunders protected passion any of these thoughts which kind of tangentially fit for you know yet how the word already experience is to is to wonder why there might not be an attempt to do to let something to be everything and maybe the religion is what tries to do that yeah i'd like to make a distinction between religion and spirituality because religion that case though it's organized men on over the line and you know this is not true just

of christianity or judaism or islam it's true of religion everywhere and the word hinduism and buddhism and all these organized religions because of their political structure of the controller must ever elected an organized religion religion has become more aboard belief and dogma an idiot ideology and control when scrooge irked is the exact opposite of that it has to go beyond belief beyond well beyond ideology and beyond control into a state of freedom of awareness to awareness of true freedom of spirit where there is no one no home and it's time to have a religious experience if you're fearful and yet most religion doctrines but that to it the whole doctrine based on fear and punishment so i like to think that god did give humans the truth and the dam came to organize a

recall of religion a half i think if you really want to have true religious experience those is nothing like going back inside to intercept the word religion comes from the roots really you'll win a chance to go back would then go back louis gates jr and as the words of stitch and consciousness than bearing of the wounded so where does the word holy who had who really isn't warned of fluid because it means a whole and whole and means everything and therefore the holy in what the word holy includes the sacred and the profane it includes the divine and the diabolical it includes the sinner and saint it includes the dark night of the soul and the beatitudes it includes forbidden lust

and unconditional love at the same time and then look inside us we find that indeed on the list irish a collection of opposing architectural images and to have only the so called sacred and not the profane makes it wasn't really quite are deficient and not enough to make somebody ought to go in and never bad is as a fantasy that doesn't exist there for i think the word holy is very frequently misinterpreted by society to have weak points and strong points is not to be flawed it is to be complete until the complete is therefore to be wholly it is only those who were willing to embrace both very good side and a shadow side that are comfortable with each other and then spontaneous human judgment because they've gone and seen within themselves and raise the same and the limits

though in his whole euro then me and you know i am not holier than thou be on equal at the level of spirit and the collection of ambiguity is an international proposing architectural images that stoke the furnace of life in ourselves when we know that they may be a holy and not trying to self righteous and martin about other people and judging them all the time that is mistaken for holiness when in fact it's the exact opposite of holiness and in fact the word holy holy and helped automated have does nothing but the return of the memory of oneness and a less intimidating to his body mind so spirit and the word out with aw it's opposing energies let's talk about sex and gender refer to sexual energy as neutral energy like two the creativity of the us anything that's alive is alive because of certainty now in animals

plants that energy has only one functioning procreation and the production and because it can only express itself and biological weapon human sexuality expresses itself biologically it expresses itself emotionally you can express itself intellectually and creativity they can express itself spiritual is the search for god so sexual energy is in fact the key to our creativity and we have the ability to protect many levels biological emotional intellectual and spiritual so sexual energy is a very important thing to understand it is my phone connection and support of those cases of this book that winnow the field of traction or passion or interest or inspiration enthusiastic or energetic and enlivened creative about anything when its art music or science what are words this the same amateur cook and in

fact sexuality is a key element in giving us the experience of the sacred because the peak experiences of intimacy and sexuality are characterized by a sense of timelessness seven the loss of ego communion snow and defenseless nurse imagine if you had the streets all the time a sense of timelessness the natural nest loss of evil communion soon end and defenseless you'd be a saint so in a sense though a holy vision of saints and d and the physical and sexual ecstasy often intimacy are identical insights into their state of true spiritual freedom the word passionate points referred are used in reference to the passion of christ is that part of the living theatre the same section

energy that makes a christ quorum was is or withdraw our offer them at a picasso or another dementia different expressions of that same passion and passion for life and passion for a love and passion for god are different expressions of that energy and its legal issue that we have that analyze of the ways are dead giveaways and dad is is an experience we can only have a few remain to will be an appearance when you look at a flower if you look at it could be an ordinary eyes and all you see is a florida now what's his name william blake said in one of the smallest wonderful poems and they're lead to believe a lie when the sea wyss and not to the eye that was born in the night to petition and i it was a song slept and beams of light sabri go beyond ordinary perception look at a flower you see there was fertile and the fragrance that's one level of perception but if you look at it long enough in silence

then you see that the flower is also remain in limbo it is also send son and the law wind it is devoid of space is the lost history of life the book creation to this point that when you soon begin to experience life like that many of passion when you have creativity you also have healing yes the healing is an expression of creativity and you know and then you hear yourself from a disease for example as in the spontaneous remission that's a creative act of the body to get rid of a problem the disease of the toxin so it is a creative process whether the immune system is an author you know but on the other things unloading the body but the body is actually is manifesting a creative process in order to do that to me

that i'm so healing is an act of creativity and the creativity and the body's linked to creativity and elsewhere and consciousness can you call the same you can call this up from only through the loss of fear no other way it is feared that poses this creative act in the body and that is only one thing that can do lots of fear there are fewer is the fear of mortality in this case you know with is the fear of loss for the future of the loss of a job and for the loss of a relationship for the loss of money whatever its fear of last year of change the effect has been that fear of an illusion because there is no such thing as nonsense changes due and the constant and if you're on is trying to get to point on two non changing and moving onto an illusion how can you

lose decades during the reagan as it is if you find a part of yourself that is in fact beyond change and that part of herself which is beyond change is the spinach and its experiences that of your love so once you get that experience the experience shared knowledge of something that is beyond mortality which is beyond change then there is the possibility of the sofa and then you can call upon these forces as you're on this path to love and he cited steps early or one of them as ecstasy mention that ecstasy results a liberation are you speaking of liberation from the cities here ecstasies of primordial images tip tickets were rage came from and you can see it very clearly in babies and children lives for no apparent reason they don't have to have a reason to be happy the adults have to have a reason to be happy and which is actually that cannot happen this is just another form of misery because so dependent on situations circumstances people and things were at the mercy of every

stranger on the street for a happiness how can you kind of innocents suffering its misery so the primordial and we just did that discord ecstasy is lost when it's lost as we grow up we begin to search for it again and then he turns to a second class substitutes and that it's too addictive into the senate delivered on addiction is a second class substitute for the loss of ecstasy to ecstasy is returning to the kremlin institute which is a combination of physical sensuality even eroticism and exile tishman speyer you want to do a show a good description of it are really good description of it read the torah one of the oldest tech self spinach or literature and your testament and the song of solomon at solomon and experiencing their primordial energy states has in his

composition to god it exhausts when he says it's clear to me and tore my heart open and filled me with love you porgy a spinach into mind i knew you as i know myself i surveyed infidel like my ears delight in your music when boston's awfully familiar fragrance and my face is covered with a jew as pretty central erotic and then he adds he says it made all things new it made me see all things shining yeah granted me perfect he's become like paradise is one of the most ancient scriptures of humankind declaring would absolutely an inhibited ecstasy what ecstasy ecstasy really this does the state that that someone was seeking more of that than any of us might see any who come to for count is that state also redemption it has

redemption of headsets restoration have different turn to the lead that's what we heard before people came and you know in the sacrifice have the spirit for the ego of the self for the self image as the four from grace in the sacrifice of the spirit for the ego and the sacrifice of the self for the self image the seventies is my social mosque it's the rule i'm playing right now mumbling to remove a massive burnout subliminal father son daughter a doctor it's my destiny of japan infinity of roads but i'm not something the rules and playing seek approval they seek to control and dominate it they're predatory in the nation just by the fact that they have become an illusion disease of just

label it's my reality my true reality is that i'm the remote witness off the roads and play with them and forget that and forget my identity a spit and substitute mind and to do for the ego than a fallen from grace you know i'm not you know along with the script and if i'm alone with the divine and then you need to find the past two years so that we show nazis from explosion in the end they were exploring the distance telephone service for the first time today air and be partial position in here and educational director of the trooper center for well being and the author of the path to

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