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fb and now national public television's stood in the way of celebrating offers literature and ideas for more than three decades but this is a word on workers' jobs once again for large the data pleasure sharing a book about tennessee's natural and historic lands that is a project of the land trust it to the state an organization whose mission is to actually preserve unique characteristics of our state the book is home to us six stories of saving land with me today to talk about home to us

is the writer marina wilson and as photographer then to welcome to both of you afterward on words as great a heavier and i'm going to talk about these six families are headed up this book which is a project land trust to say let's talk first of all about them how this book came about and what the land trust is in the idea was slow in creating a book like this and then we'll be back next week to talk about the job and again thrill is reversible i am i think i'll answer that though what the land trust isn't uncommon how the book came out of the land trust was formed in nineteen ninety nine the nonprofit and it says its basic goal is to say of tennessee's lands for future generations that's where it does wonderful looking bug judy nelson and thought about the us in atlanta for rosen's living room and write that in

yemen right he it was his idea and he brought her long and she tells her that whole history perfectly so that's kind of a nutshell usually they work with you know private landowners families like the ones in the book sometimes they do you know larger tracks of lands in association with parks are things like that but they say that book nearly eighty five thousand acres to date when we did the book was seventy five thousand now and so i was just a couple months you can see how much growth there is and so i came and you came into it a lot earlier than i did so if you want to talk about how you came into the land trust and then i can jump in with the book you know as i started i retired from that in the sand and i remember that

and i'm genie said do you want to take pictures for us and they just been going here so i started photographing our family is in their land and infect to a family isn't the book on ice in the car the first family's that i photographed which was amiss as crouch and the fissures and so some of these pictures are ten years old will get involved in the day but for most of the war was lifted but the other view of sheer some of your forensic work undone let's talk about these interviews we'll talk about three am this week and then you come back next week to talk about three more so they went over the croaks the crime family leave than when the fish family three quite different our experiences own

favorite of view absolutely different personalities so there's a lot of his co owned can do mormon there for her is the story different from a video of here a nice is as this pistol of a woman she's the issues you've got a pulse at us there anyone and that means these pictures are so fantastic but it just captures everything about her mom that look in her eye it's got a sparkle it's steely you notice of those were its lines on her face she when i went up for the first interview we know she just has a wealth of stories and when she starts and on and she just nosing those unknowns my viewers a look at what both of the truckers you drive and it was then she says now not able to she was eighty four in that picture you can so aren't yet she continues she's not able to drive the tractor now but she continues to get out with our last

week she'd been out raking leaves all morning and you know she had broken both flags both arms aren't she not her heart out a written when state broke one of the life as it hurt so bad season you know sees and yet scientists say is not to be stopped and we're going to stand you know that i guess they are on the panel's only woman they know how old she is and she waved me hundred and it's one e and the white house sees that hurdle as though let's talk about her and her life then a lion because that's that's really what the book is about and it is the pro family land and has been for a long long time on which she wanted to talk about how well he's english you too engage in conversation about her about herself and animal husbandry

the great story she is very easy to talk to she's got i think or her sort of repertoire of stories that she loves to share in and they are very second nature for her like the story of the family homestead that burned down and you know her mother was crying and she was a little girl and she said will you know mother why are you crying and she said well you know the nominees their shoes and she said you know you know you know there's information oregon and she's she loves those stories and she holds those ahmad and i think you know she grew up on on cedar lane farm which town they put the trust and then she and john bachelder your farm in and that's that they did together in the area and the interior and then you know when he passed away she didn't she talked about it she taught she likes to tell the story about when

she wrote the troop train with down then you know she didn't she didn't clash about him but she didn't cut it sure is if it were uncomfortable i don't think i am but she did say you know oh if it if she had known how to drive a tractor and if she hadn't had that farm to keep her going you know it's it's it's it's the same thing it's the same message of picks back up in a lot of the chatter you know some people would say yep as linda got this phone you can run this place doesn't hurt that there is that her niece end and david are so worried that she's gonna you fall and sheila is totally alone she's got out koenig manager that comes and checks on her but she's still going and shh and nothing's going to stop her and her own when she

cooked is the equivalent of sun and we should say that in every case people want to serve their land and entered into this agreement that promised land trust to save the land and she's said to keep it from being quote split up talk a little bit about her novel and the cause that a cruise uses is hers and she feels a deeply ingrained you know she didn't believe in wearing gloves when you dig in the dirt you know she wants the dirt under her fingernails are and you know i remember one of the first things means he told me because she had met her before i did was that you know she'd be driving on the tractor and she might see a particular kind of weed and she would get off the tractor and pluck it nobody else would've even know this song and she was very aware of how they farmed that hill armed

because of you know because of the runoff into the river and she says as we're writing as i was writing the book and we're working on i thought about a lot about certain the words two word answer being these people being stewards of the land and she she always has been before it was you know before it was cool like it is now she just caring for an assignment where it is exactly located in terms of geography melissa lee new direction our show i guess it's on the enjoying ensign county and you're supposed to trade on beautiful country road if i don't know where it is in relation to kids off the interstate in a chilly incredibly beautiful totally untrue to see a lion prime land for development right at some point get special right and that's what's

interesting about the land trust is that people that that form this relation legal relationship with the land trust it's not that they can't sell their land or leave their land or their shoulder and arm but it can be developed and they decide how that's going to be done at the time of the agreement will you will the vote to reopen these families to a certain point each family was different and you have to kind of sense that as a photographer a what what they how close you can get home so i just was aware of with each family and then try to push it beyond what they would want you soon be interviews with brilliant and vote your work together on a catch it

was it was a really intense collaboration and it was wonderful on you know it's time consuming two to collaborate and to sort of work together so it's faster to you know do something on your enemy done with that but aren't you know i think we probably even collaborated more than we thought we would at the outset but once we started you know we would go visit and she wouldn't be there and you know to hear the interviews in to capture those things that i would inevitably write about and then i would transcribe and start to sort of digest the story and tell are some of the things that work now sprawling put in the air and she might go back and say i wanted to get a picture of that or she would go back and photograph and send them to me and then i would kind of writer that and so there was a you know there is a very very an intense back and forth and sort of inform each other's work because we really wanted wanted those pictures

in those words to be read i'm currently end and on and you know to the extent that we did even talked at one point about not having any cut lines at having those captions because those words would be so close to the picture and we decided that we needed the cases go before the oceans along without weapons but always is juxtaposed inside the text so that you know those pictures reflect what you're reading and the layout we really work hard on making that happen where you're reading the story in your ear the picture captures the spirit of the story along and even now the time lapse maybe different arm for instance when when she gets the oral history parts of the stories you now and others

in the old pictures i had to think of pictures that could work and we talk about what this picture work with this part that's a historical will land is beautiful scenery as you capture it is beautiful you know i read that introductory few paragraphs about and tennessee hillbilly on the proper i got a sense of this grant is both a character and both to confirm that both of you were exposed to her but also had a feeling she is a lovable character were there moments when the when she was telling me just too much more than you could digest survey more than a decade it's definitely you know see us and i guess that was really the one of the first ones i transcribed and i felt the need to transcribe everything because i didn't know what i was in a news analyst you know along

three hours of the host to her she had all kinds of stories but here she brings you and then an almond and actually perry as burn his we'll get to later she was at a party and he referred to her as was the homecoming queen knows she just i yeah people are drawn to her a living in our words was eleven when that information alone and i think about her and she sought to providers the best of what land trust is about hundred and fifty one acre she bush option or was that when you what were doing a story about how different she is from some of the other characters in the book lust talk about letting your orbit for various tell those of us are joining us now with greater wilson there's a rule about home for us six stories of saving the land really with three stories this week their song for us off and then and next week he'll be back we'll talk about three more but let's just deal with

lenny neal and his and that story because that it's a totally different story in the land he had this land then it was gonna be a marine preserve for his two boys and that you have shed their own bars and noodle n bowl when his chateau is not frightened certainly vote for mary is obviously so different than his astrology know you go into that arm into that house in its eggs in our lab is we run a photograph that when you sort of this state is expecting guess her party and i just happened to get that one picture i was really there to search to photograph the party and the guests and every note was reminding me that i can have put that picture away and she was the one that said i did send it to him and she said let's bring that in a silly picture it was a

great idea that that's a kind of relationship we had where i would you know comment on her words and she come in on pictures and we get it and now who are constantly you know sharing our feelings of what's happening and so this is a totally different story in ten boys into an and it turns out not to be an incubator for them but what land he wants to keep together my son this after like the neal story you know you've got miami who is tom who loves a party loves to entertain at his house he's you know this well loved exuberance dino interior designer he's got all these franzen and arm and then you've got his son matthew and his daughter mom alison who are organic farmers and local police armed and you know they and they yes they love the

place they are there and on a very strict all organic diet day they're the house leaders seems like from what you need and you would think that maybe that wouldn't get along in other they're just very different and yet you know they deliver to the post dude as cher love lionel and family but the un family how much of the perfectionist do love of the land you know at the end of that chapter alice entire you know well matthew asked that question rather rhetorically and allison says well it's family and then he points down and he says it's the land and i think i knew nothing has a lot to talk about the fishers a family in a totally different family of our hidden use of issues again that was one really wants that i did and

photographs and their daughter was you know in high school and an hour it is photographed for their involvement with their land and there she says i suppose i began to read that story our i realized oh they love the land of that would be in his books but more telling of music and talk about that because it seems like hello omar is news music alone yeah it now i feel like charlie is the men as is the lovely voice there's just certain hear it now i think i am you know he talks about serving the sabbath fastened turning off the tv and sort of you know making it a point to serve have a day of being rather than doing nothing of music is part of that there are you know they made that decision a long time ago when they first got married which they called home studying you know the day they wanted to move

up the land they didn't want air conditioning even though that first summer was you know it was a hundred in our innovative they are you know a pure in that way and i think music it's part of them is that their job or not and she's a librarian and still live at this commitment to let me talk a little bit about not just them but but generally how do people know and i mean how does that work does it dawn on monday's show out in lively read about it they know that one keep their land together and preserve it is then deserve historically they want to keep it for the future it's a solo sings in his word of mouth and i can remember specifically have the fisheries did i think they read about it did this is the ninth generation farm years and i'm and the other interesting thing about the fissures as they were really

part of a back to land me a movement i'm stephen gaskin drove his bus tour will the far right and that was the same time is as stephen susan and so there was a summer of going back to the land's sentiment among young people calm but i think eventually as they all have they realized this is slang he said this isn't the moment changed that moment changed the house much known but in all these situations that seemed to be almost everyone else as times pearse there have inherited this land looks quite often these inherited structures that made up they need renovating was you won't change it was taking the time when obviously that would change but not much is the bathroom which you know and built the porch i think there's just a tiny tiny old farmhouse and in some ways gives you go children one and they're

going to write you know they got about a daughter holly and a son travis you know but they're both who are married in the hollies son dude it is that babies in that opening picture and neither of them live in nashville but you know holly talks about the fact that it's a that's a possibility for them and add that wouldn't be there otherwise to you know to world certainly am a piece of lamplight that end and i think susan and staver careful not to pressure now my mean you know she's said on you know well it may not be highly and maybe do when he grows up because that the land was actually her grandparents so that would be a sort of parallel along but i think saving it for me now as this case of us wants to feeling like you're saving for kids or grandkids or potentially for somebody else's kids and grandkids there's just no that's the

legacy that they want a lead female name and then they believe is the most valuable and the fissures discussed it with their children and the flip side is the hour for both city as israelis have their own site to build and so the future will she be part of the future i thought the photographs really a solo to set the style of that so that farmers rowdy and i am it's b talk and will come back next week india with three other families from pfizer's we haven't fallen off but i don't talk about how it is to be a team of journalists the former new york and also absolute

strangers tell the most intimate details of their first coalition ships on talk about how difficult that is humanity did so well these people made such person deeply bristol disclosures did it and i let you take photographs of an intimate moments in their home is tough with the difficult i think that it would be i found they were so every single family was so warm and so hospitable along that it was just like this it was just you know coming in and sitting down in tell an old stories in our mean i think the picture taking probably made them more nervous than the stories we all love to tell our stories in telling our stories on me no tales as sand and said oh i think i

am and i'm not i mean certainly we're greatly indebted to them for for shared we run into a number of things we can shoot with three morn thank you all for coming to your watching and dancing in the whole word on words keep reading for you next week fb