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and john dingle once again welcome to world words well it's a real pleasure to and buy back an old friend and have bacchanal friend rafi a renowned and ally welcome afterward oh we're delighted to work it year for a number of reasons first of all it's not just because you are up you're of a music company called flame ari is not just because you weren't country does jockey the year half dozen done not just because every leading figure in country music girl wants to be interviewed by ralph they were not just because of national now and now on the record those programs achieving city but also because your memories sort of the colonial times bestseller still more memories was better than your memories and now you're back with the view from nashville and you know you are the premier interviewer in my judgment and television more people watching you when you were doing that allow the watching
johnnie carson the medieval know that the best effect of italy's villain so a double world or of vermont's this is a terrific book a wonderful book of stories i hope show ira it ended a labor of love that song writers have often told me that they view their soldiers their children and i do that book as a child my child well nine months to write hahaha gestation period was a little puppet when you combine the writing and the editing it took about almost a year not surprising not surprising was chock full of stories and then let's just get some nice bike response allegedly and you begin with with the conway twitty a phenomenal character a one of a person out the year that much to young that there's a great exchange at wayne wait wait till faron young when his name is conway twitty are the birds and well you get
a pop up local a head eight pacer all beal has admitted that i don't know of many people remember that they serve and i think it was about nineteen eighty was made by american motors and he loved it in a pan where you could have ended any didn't collect old cars older expensive cars leader driven event with a very lovely dry though poster and he and when he died and then subsequently when the family couldn't agree on anything at his shoulders thinks the court made the new immigration racer had a boat rally around six hundred dollars and days while i want to get back and it meant so much to him and immense amounts to her he played twenty seven thousand five hundred dollars per night for six hundred dollars car to get back to follow you know
they also wasn't there also was lenient some of the striking almost eerie coincidence did us with a with a role in conway ad big big monster hit then use russia the hospital a spread through regular and peugeot actually of branson were taliban appear in jim stafford theater branches just south of springfield probably about an hour and now they were they finished their season for ransom and they were driving out of ranching town where the band got off the bus to some degree and fun way i was in the bathroom and an
experienced some short of abdominal and eurasian and brought him to his knees in the fountain there and a huge internal pain and to get the band back on abortion i rushed him to spring through the hospital or morales was there because you're out of money and had so many problems that during a period in his life and he was in the hospital he was not out of quite some time and so yeah there is a bit of irony in yellow the real tragedy and the tragedy of the story is his death but there's a subplot and it's a double tragedy because the struggle the family fight over his estate as you recounted just devastating tidied his wife mickie his second wife earned their three children showing i'm really actually power and forth are there was a bitter dispute the others of a porn which is
there's usually which is at the end of chapter one which one official revival of it was johnny wrote johnny depp ashley to read this formative age and it looks like essentially form serves as gary we know you you're wonderful to us and we know you would want us to get along and love each other and remains one big happy family of four for a job so chapter truly sort of we're cautiously called one big happy family and when we pointed out that they did not go early irony of the poem unimportant i read that poem now as i read the poem i remember no stories about the conflict but they aired an ad i think suffered more than any of the clothes because she suffered personally he had revenue will was never executed and that led to the court fight
and then she'd in ocean are a plan to build a guy beside and be buried beside or issue yiddish and for every fishmonger grief counseling and if you call her telephone number can wear jeans the phone she can't she should attend barnard shove take that off the total there were as most of the music industry people know them they were joined there was show why maliki even though the beauty parlor where there's not one to let his wife so yes it was devastating to her attic like tammy wynette we did you know when you can illustrate a lot but we never thought she would dot com where he was the pitcher healthcare he looked great that i think in a rush he's doing shakespeare showed it was the hospital that might have
been a liability and a drummer howard have the same problem many survived well you know i heard you were to imagine ten team and then as you said moment of her in the book an ovary not sanguine about tennis you and lo and behold i saw among at least i thought it was going to lower them ms marshall fear john ward <unk> shriver who for many many years chair as host of fusion she just as they had never occurred to move from a position to have electrodes on records and the regime are still in charge of the funeral and your son john will ask her when and at one for that first novel to tell us if you're on msnbc and then i
think he said well it's a publisher and we're allowing the public to come into the ryman why are you limiting the number of people who could be at her family's shoe thirties right so then she gives permission to tell was the ephemeral and cnn came in and took a seat as well and when your son johnathan remember too well lately and they look out we mentioned there when the actual road just just briefly and the nice thing about the book is that there are dozens and dozens of stars in here and there aren't dozens of stories about them and make and there are stories within stories and a story about a rather than likely recount in a budget is when she's a fourteen year old girl about to get married to a land whose last name she thinks is little ball
well i visited the great angeles some great health with an insight i can't remember what i wrote because it was more year ago he had a nickname too little red no the movie's name phenomenal named for a memo he was also given a lot of them it was also making it was an adjustment of technology is mailing oliver doolittle land and our unit you know and actually one time i've said more needed to get them into a nickname too little because you're lazy by many were named some reason for that that meant big day which is a lot more he was because he was acting alone well as you just as you said if you tell the story is then throw the preacher and the music in your name and
then he says the aisle over the little lamb lamb jr an he says what he sees as the freedom of the great depression was that the we were writing off but it's those sorts of sub plots rolling through all through his adult you're actually about three years ago a bus station will talk about that thats well a great and i have and she wanted a bus station in the laredo was following the most naive person in the world and jd kentucky was a big city and i think it was her first public restroom
and then it had will record try a head promoter notes that when you shot on the automatically flush thank you as hugo black in the movie that you have given the source and you never say on the corral that off my fear but i think what my first order we look so hard for the videotape of people that do that for me a fraction of this and we have a man in new york and one in chicago who tracks old video footage for which he couldn't find one for a garden but many books about him came out and i picked one up an airport and there's a picture in there of a nineteen seventies special call frank sinatra a friend of john denver leslie odom was a lot of people will
read essay right next to frighten respect and now as we're told me she was invited to be on this program and they asked her to send all or nothing at all was much larger virgin unfortunate for never are industry analysts on what they pay out where they were injured and you said this is the worst trauma or so in earlier years is doing his job so the next day she catches fried jambalaya mr sinatra as i understood it would make mafia to pitch a victim's get on them is a way to manage a lot of respects <unk> he says frank he said they got the baggage our newest song all or nothing at all of the worst ever in my life had we sang something else you know the conway twitty and i have a number one
country right now coal is at all and this agreement that we sang that i mean years about this until i saw it was very nice to hear he said little girly if this program recall will ruin for an eye but it's not at all he said it's not so we're a nation or another war which was my first year in the us and so she says she got through it are there are a lot about dolly and there was a two stories that and that really struck me the first i asked the dally on national television all the talk shows and an end watch how you interview her and
inevitably she brings up her childhood and they are poor they were then and it reminded me that so many have some ladies great start to really come from party backers a minority in a lot more depression babies that's right i remember a cashier dyess arkansas listening to grand ole opry and at the ap and that maybe a distraction but the story about dolly padilla nice thing about the book is that there is a narrative and each chapter so the focus is and in most cases on one star in the near as i say there's a pot and then they're little sidebars that you've that you have a rectangle covered around what we did one day i call my editor where marlon henry ocean ireland what's more stores are short stories that do not
have that are not big enough to be a chapter to stand on their own as the chapter what i like to write the issue well let's just put them between the chapters should move an actual much what we did follow orders a lot of the low lows is one of those stories about ali's party dolly parton swipe who grow rich well one dollar the first international and what i what i learned by silently a lot on my morning television show a channel four she debuted there carl carl unfurl butler had called me and asked me if i would use for and won a professional would probably yeah i would usually do it and she came down here ride out a high school and she had something of characters and marshall
and she came to our show and send an old george jones up tempo song you gonna be my baby and we all follow her to soar became a semi regular on that morning show were later in this year's crash when i learned that what you do have a climate that we'd known we would imagine but if you're mormon which they i think that show played maybe a free of fifteen dollars debt yeah anyway dolly did did this into question should vote for over an issue and get a basket of tenderness sharper and humid he had a little for odor anything there maybe even a box or leave the dalai is liza got a buyout dalia said what if she sets themselves would wish she said since those years osbourne of money growers and i'm getting that interested me was that was how
she would go to a hotel go up in the middle and build all of florida she was looking for people who had rooms search and your knowledge of a red room for a photo probably didn't eat everything on your plate look to trade that a lot is that it sits on a little table we'll see that you know right and you jump back out of all girl your way she would look for most traits those little table and said so she would leave that is unbelievable not an ant and then this is your surviving both as in you and then you look at her phenomenal success you tell about an end and this part of it really really young i thought though say real song for for country music and howard street nationally and got up always complained that until you've your memories ms schock you're publishing
buy it without the soloist and staying up there for solo they mistreat new york publishers mistreat country music brought promptly lost looks like if the book such artists demeaned by publishers and you make the point that national television networks don't know how to treat country music entertainers and the dolly show which was a smash they'll fail because they didn't know how to do to the tree yeah chef understand what you're trying to show and i think that the dolly parton eventually so we are we are losing and to which is about a seventy eight was a slick and people don't want to watch the flicker fahmy and our way is not dollars level or
rather it isn't just yourself so another sheriff's sale ultimately win one of the last attempt to salvage it brought the show to nashville through a plug in a natural flavour hoping that somehow they could turn around i was a zen decided to do was go to achieve orchid lounge in addition a watering hole here a picture of you just solos that dolly and her friends are at the at the jews or whatever are flattered to be included in the bunch and forgers in the picture who first recorded her clothes live there is there are so many people who played a role some time in the early part of her career and we were told and by the director just sit there and talk and be ourselves and dolly was sort of the interlocutor and that soul what are coal stories about country music
then those rollicking good time and i guess we were probably aren't ten minutes i hadn't thought of dollars of home builder last year he's in the picture you say denial and an annual meeting you captured the dialogue of what different ones set and it's the lowest cost it is the job i first heard one that porter wagoner show about string arranger and banjo player comedian who used to be on the whole on iran on the grand ole opry and he had a funny little had a real long assured the short term patch any year ultimately he was murdered in this town after the grand ole opry when it but strang mr willson so here were any he was traveling with four wagoner to addicts a play that and there were late
and porter was speeding and churn within the little upset because they were going so fast he thought rather reckless way and he was created to say anything before finally this could be could help it survive he said cheerfully said that could you could you slow down just a little bit he said i'd rather sit and they said that's fine was late very very proper laughs and there's a great deal of pathos and in this book up i would say our viewers that robin arnold sit here all week and we'll be back on next week's with some more of the view from nashville but more things that i like about the book is about for about thirty times i've found something i had no idea i had no idea for example of ray charles' foreign country music with the fargo ish the flawed medical
label is very good reason a new job and they knew the health law as desirous of really heard it that he became a lead vocals on land that used to sing anytime there was a big him that anyone should and ray told me that story when he came to nashville several years ago to record a problem and it's several islands are one duet album with a lot of people here like cash george jones merle haggard willie nelson and restaurateur of ray charles always been a country for unethical ryder several years ago general ray charles out as being so important to our business because i'm not in the sixties he did two albums of country stroll and took them to a new market really good and that it was that it had not heard country song before and he took hundreds of the softer new
york at a customer in his style when the voices in the strings and from that came the hit i can't stop loving you which he would dearly love that song live but what a dna gave country music at a time when they couldn't get exposure otherwise a lot of the new exposure and show just how wonderful the songs are and other pop singers the great thing fallen are subsequently and also cut the country music is hank williams williams songs were liberation of the vote operating those early years particularly tony bennett recorded vocal hartzler bottle of ray charles ray charles always loved country music that first time i met him and he told me that immediately actually rachel without hesitation i said are you a country music and he said yes so i showed her adventures
years ago to go into something as a widget for a country so he said just a girl i used to know and he didn't hesitate if it's not well for you watched as the soul and anne you've been such an intimate friend but with so many of these great stars bump it seems to me that there is a unique difference between our national country music stars and many celebrities and it has something to do with an awesome isn't anything except in them away with their basic simplicity they understand the music and the people who are gonna hear it and placing from the heart of our people you know the best explanation for why country as popular well seven nation i think contributed popular
because it has the faith to troll people that their problems are important no no
Series
A Word on Words
Episode Number
2720
Episode
Ralph Emery
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Nashville Public Television
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Nashville Public Television (Nashville, Tennessee)
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The View From Nashville Part 1 Of 2
Date
1999-01-20
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00:27:51
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Chicago: “A Word on Words; 2720; Ralph Emery,” 1999-01-20, Nashville Public Television, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed May 8, 2025, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-524-zk55d8pq85.
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