A Word on Words; 4107; Timothy Ghianni

and now from nashville public television's mr delay and celebrated authors literature and ideas for more than three decades but this is a word on workers' jobs in the welcome once again to a war on words my guest today is jim gianni him always wanting to be a newspaper man and he realize that dream spent thirty three years running for daily papers the leak chronicled the lead for obama and the tennis in yellen is co author of all your inner edition of award winning outlawed journalist outgoing quotes outlawed journalist who stutter on tourism wrongdoing and here to talk about when newspapers man of the nude brothers initiative it was a time when newspapers search for the truth made a difference and says on them right at your face just a pleasure cruise ship being asked me are nice to talk about about this book what a car i must say are who designed that actually was done with those are all pictures of course from our my career

i was done that the eu was published the west even though the woman mary catherine else not to get my pictures and she made that montage force so it's a it's a wonderful cover and shouldn't truman about it soon i'm a book store and newsstand they only get it in me attractive talk about the nude brothers and how they came to be as interesting it's a fastener fascinating crowd people attacks john lloyd actually that came to be we came to be can spawn out of the bad news stories we were dealing with a lot of those young guys thirty and now we're dealing with some murders is a young man named rodney long was a football player was myrtle young woman and cathy nash yeah she was murdered almost the same basic time the different criminals the few crimes

that were covering them is associate editor in the columnist for the paper i was contract in the coverage and right in the senate to the parents stored separate and director mccarter the place reporter and all this began to take with all the things happening people dying at fort campbell where clarksville some people die at fort campbell people die on the roads a lot of that is going on and kind of to let off stress but basically one day i'll get out of peake i guess we we we had to come in to wander during a return in the paper and ribbon at a saturday afternoon paper a sunday morning paper hadn't acted as publication sought was tired reports now before and that these murders and i said oh it's a year where were sunglasses to work there were shades them a body my co authors of we just call ourselves and his brothers and so that my daughter of power and so that day to work i went in iran the sunday paper and then i worked my shades and he wore chaison and jerry manley was a dear friend he had an important for you must discredit

he was a dear friend a wars sheds and and so that just kind of became a way we did some high jinks to kind of let off steam to do to it happens in every new happens just as i didn't know that is a lot a lot of the same sort of thing but you're up in london to broadway and he knows that people love practical joking and practical joking on people in the newsroom and i need it in a real sense the book is an obituary on newspapers is a huge bank to solicit certain salon attention so it is but obituaries are not put before me and those you are interlaced with all of these stories throughout the book ben carson is broke and the photographs of those brothers and other

celebrities you encountered during long career really makes her book fascinating read button but i am well what comes back to those two murders that was it seems to me that those two tragic events young football star from boston right asian woman ms young the family lost a beautiful job it seems to me as i go through the book but the two of you have on your mind and it affected your careers from that point on what's what's wrong with what i just said there's really nothing wrong with what he just said be the geek these murders or so i was still living with you know i mean i've dealt with crime and everything that was still enjoys been someplace else is other people people don't know who also knows as boy girl next door sort of murder almost murders

at almost the same time and i got no other moms and dads i got to know the murder murders and i that's not affected me as both happen in the suck it affected the community and it affected the way that i saw a life that affected abbey get affected a lot of the things that i was doing that affected they go through myself even for more full speed into your work home twelve hours was a hundred percent at home but also it just it changed how we saw a life how much was more more fleeting of course post the tragedy to dealing with his debts and decides could shake in fact i talked to him rodney long's mother kept in the shallows father to this day facebook friends but they're not talk to them to this day the dessert never been able to shake that's really the genesis of the book i sat down one day my early time after i heard about the tenth since the start writing as a way

to set that we have lived with this stuff forever it does affect your life and affect my best life also and write about these murders and i got to a certain point and i couldn't see was gonna take it next and so i said rob visitors a lot about the forty thousand words or so you read through it was listed as a do we routinely a lot of fun a lot of things together would also affected as both he was the culture because one affect that you were right you know i go through the book and i know that japanese you wrote a designated tim the chapters he wrote a designated raul that it lets me like you know the burden won't work a half a bucket but the two of you are singers in a way going to give part of what programs about is not just the story is so but how writers write and and it does say i'd been in a fight ensued your name how well might not

discern which are your style is a very some ideas or thousand journalists were close but a couple of the violent to the war to go on this boat sure john appreciate that that allows for open for a pregnancy mismatch when we do our chapters i would write and now it's ended after up old ball thing i say you read this thing and i say you had what you think you would like dad come from your viewpoint the same events and then we kind of mapped out what order of events would be a human right conditions the chapters or on the new drugs own chapters and then you would also be rich or my stuff to see if there are things that i've missed some details and it sounded back to me with his suggestions on things that nest and then i'd read years and do the same thing we want through this for eight months something's book back and forth and in and four we didn't we didn't like centers in a chapter every time we had to

read the whole thing over again as a major that the tuna chapters fit in so as it was really was planned to be counted celeste and thoughtfully from fluke internet for more unworkable for both progress open to islamabad he goes kentucky and his ego directly than narrow yes you went to the kentucky new era he it yeah it's a long story on an opulent an era and he was there as one of their editors have different roles managing editor copied as chief different things are they deadly have sixty monessen of these years in journalism and so to bring the same story but the story from two different perspectives different cities didn't experiences but in many ways the same experience as tube out some of the countless doors rich and anecdotes and scientists come from they met you and you can briefly to me and your reaction because you i mean there are there are movie star of the sports stars

music the music the celebrities oj simpson oj simpson seemed like the time when i saw him my song more than once a couple times as interviewing him cause he was a spokesman for epic both dingell the dingo part of that that they used to be up in clarksville and so it soon so jeff and the republicans want to understand the part that they were them seem like just as nice a guy just tammany ice cream and ice cream just talked about he was the first he was the first african american ever to the event was held at the course for country club is the first african american i was told at the time to ever be a lot on the public to disputed play tennis with guest matt edwards and a disservice i spent time with are really really liked him that in ice cream you just a friendly fellow the opposite of course you hear this charming personality that the policy was not he was a nose so charming when he was a charming day it is not hard to read you know things

about mortgages was hard to grasp the silver one won one is by one side a mother apparently came out but join it with me he was fine with the time talk about tennessee williams your test emergency rooms there was a gentleman and how we would hang out afterward all journalists have different than a lot of your rights in one big your garments that those boys were lined up to work and there are all kinds of characters with me at the cops there are we meet different people ball from all walks of life would be in there there was a fella and we'd make the end of tennessee williams it was as to use a southern gentleman some sort of a new government that is indeed he was a soviet he will never have thought he was a lot of it differ by it was interesting to find him as a normal person oh they're about how if the first time i met him he told us

about the time you went into a bank holiday in an accident mass was of course was a small town and avoiding this guy was who has broached it went in there in a yard reaganomics was early in the eighties and then you ran out and he subsequently meant to want to one of restaurant that was run by for the mine clues to the government use to interview wasn't threatening anyway rose's to see was made made these candidates certain segment on christians and were really was stalking has gone unused during that interim anybody and his misstatements and that's the last time i saw him he was living in nashville and he was trying to he he was calling me a puzzled the banner that is calling me regularly first he was in jail and then he was calling me inventive eventually start hanging out ron the paper and one day he was coming in to try to see me at the banner he was all dressed in his candidate to tell him indians like a like a native american indian cost of rape

victims of writing a warping had the address on and spirit is a common view on become unseemly the guards knew that he'd been hanging around the building and you know the phone rings on the way in there's a call for kelly james earl ray is in prison and you get those calls hands in the you know you get a call from a notorious criminal i mean you know when that those newsrooms all of use both of those there in terms of unpaid but we get the same calls an errand the call from germs or we're going to talk about the services so the same things that happened yeah i'm sure much more than ever that may be just as very strange thing that would happen would be out in an

earlier than i was too close and say sorry in mourning for thirty am on what time he had access to the phone and he called the call anyone to talk to charlie appleton was when my report on the status of state does for ordering and it was him and one he talked to charlie wanted to talk a little bit about himself tommy just they should tell to tell a tailored and cultural entity called but the thing is to talk to somebody like that like you i mean i don't want a good and bad people but this kind of notoriety and such a crime that has changed the world and just to talking to the cash economy sick to my stomach more than anything was just i was pleasant to him it also didn't say go back again i just was very strained he does have more than one time but it was a very strange occurrence to talk to james earl ray

and for charlie who is a new sources when he was in those interviews unrivaled charlie was getting a lot of stores out of the rays differently different iranian his brother and for his wife is due in stores about that so it was important to try to keep their contact because i happen to be the one on the receiving end of one of roanoke there's some quotes from people who really like the book and who are your pals and more lows sundby unusual ones who have thought about well chris is a good friend nice recommendation in the book the one when i first moved to nashville in nineteen seventy two my parents had moved down here from chicago and one of the things that i really want to do that or he learned about kristofferson i really wanna make kristofferson that was a i thought that would be a good thing to do but i liked the way he used words i love words and so and i never met him then but eventually during the course of my time during those in clarksville than for a long while ago i came back to nashville

eventually the venture the test interview chris on the telephone about a movie it was the movie he was doing and with the interview went so well this was it was at the tennessean as entertainment or give you one so well that chris's wife called me back simonich a drummer but they really enjoyed the time he really enjoys ptolemy and they'd like to see me get this was why we're lives was the time and so i came to town that like made me so he came to town he came to town after johnny cash died and he came to be the eulogies eulogies for protests funeral that's a little bit much chrisman was in town is here for them and a tv specialist elephant saloon in town for a couple of weeks so they're called his wife called first and she said didn't impress a lot to see if you get time it out that time and she said oh he's he's available sunday afternoon

and as one wanna pick them up with a little walk down music row where we lived all those years ago and you thought that was a good idea brought his son as johnny cash christofferson was sixteen of time who thought this would be fun to do is a high school film project and so we walked on music row were to change or not change the law preserving benatar in the daytime and thirty years and it ended a change so much and saw a showing where the toilet at least be honest about the low turnout is looking for some of these guys hang out with unknown in the us now it was at that point of her building out of its dealers and that the studio we're used to work where reclaimed ashtrays when dylan was recording is telling all these stories about at the buildings were the buildings the ban so was a wannabe game another day in the life of the germans just allows you just to hear them and talking with you and gary about europe with rob boulware thought were newspapers

matter and that it's also called live in a frozen their eggs shuffle and i don't like that one you must have had the at some point the two had a conflict in the what when and what we're now and my guess is their newest and soars on the attitudes of florida's there are in and we're going to decide what we wrote and then re think about what we would put in there and we did have to eliminate people we had to get to live as chris we really wanted chronicle not just our experiences but the changes now newspapers and on his visit there was a lot of the themes course of this because of change from better or worse that's about that about how we saw them change and so that we renew their stories about that particular that the one that they had to be included and in the certain stories about the people that we saw people in that we knew which ones we

wanted to include every building toward this over also we thought was going on which is kind of like a mash like a newsroom where lines lots of places us places along the melancholy cause i'm the melancholy by nature i guess so i did it get so what we did we did have to trim out differences that we talk robin i talk every two or three days and he says they'll should put this story and i swore we never into their one size of you when i read through richard in this last week you are an analog but how problems of writing the book isn't always more so in the band members by random people and our businesses just grace from the manuscript and you know forty thousand words through all to have got it but you know it had the added there are limits on what can go in and so some stories never never quite make it but that's what that's what the next book can be bounced let me ask you

about when you think back on that on this long career in and then it strikes me as i think back on my own cryptic in monday's report there there is a sort of effort it is called alone and seventy that infects every journalist walks in and doesn't know their anatomy known as facetious into the knock and embodying my colleagues and me about ailes but there is i think inside newsrooms a different culture and people interact in different newsrooms in very much the same ways but differently than other people backed or would understand would you say that that's true of john you because you've been new in newsrooms long i was beyond that is it something that happens it's a wonderful it's a wonderful it's not always happy with a wonderful magical experience to be in this room have invited in a newsroom like a newsroom was ten

years ago however ducked that there's nothing no better place to be than the desert is a madness is that there's the hustle bustle is the sounds are always people talking is yelling and there's a fear among colorful language how a lot of coffee a lot of joking at the jokey doing horrible things about somebody joking about that element of it's just it's not because they don't affect yours because you have to do these things you're dealing with a very you didn't want one day with us with a vice president for the vice presidential candidate next day with the murders and you got a you got a crank out these stories and as the missile fires a fine madness center and is my lover i love what time in the newsrooms of bitterness i try to paint them to find them to this is that the purveyors of the perfect description of one is because when i am thinking back on thinking back on all year thousand different reporters are i can't think of a one who were infected by i can be that even the most straight laced guy

or woman would come into a newsroom in within in order to survive the limit such a wannabe there are other times of the people live but if in order to survive the environment they think that they join in and enjoy the part of it so it's a tame attitudes like i assume it's probably like an nfl locker room by work that that a judge yet a joke around here have fun with joe before you go out and carry out a test assume is a kind of a little loose most well as a look at the the photographs in the book a wonderful bit and dispersed throughout don't innovate and make a wonderful photo album and all the people all the personalities of there and i know slowly go back where we were almost murdered of photographs of flow of both her both an issue on the killer and the killer of the

young football player and then i ran across in like a book a lot of the pro bowl talk about other campuses it is august the story stayed with me forever when he barked i did talk to barber man who was who is rodney long's mother and david frei who's one of the killers was coming up for parole two years ago a time of national flood was two years ago as a parole hearing and they asked me the family and i believe it involved in this cause this point was we will we do that again and it was i was freelancing this point anyway so as they answer in geneva because about this man had changed and damage so many lives and it wasn't going to be here the life lessons which is fine but there is a proper also this very long letter to the parole board and i was actually represented at the hearing to testify at the hearing asked me to but because in my house got flooded an

initial flood the day that was that i couldn't have done it but they did that to put this letter entered into the political and the testimony that it's a very for talks about how this man had changed and damage lives not just she'll do not particularly young man's burden of the affected so many lives by doing that they didn't think you should be granted parole there was no point there was no prom and they're also fearful about the book the actual articles selected both what i'm arguing is a woeful as a wonderful selection you know time flies by and we have about two minutes left and i know you still writing and what's next will resign or as a freelance writer for four to my family i have two books going to have to pull the subs i can easily go along says he's a

long time listener opposite he has a clutch of winter in the flood in nashville as i was dealing with what was happening is we didn't lose a halfway house not love worse we could live upstairs but though i added a daily blog on facebook and was about dealing with him were dealing with a government that that i began to be a lot of fantasy involved as i was doing that was on your stress and so i compiled these clean and a book on kindle in a book format last year and it was called after the flood with a long subtitle which is my semi true tale of soggy nightmares days when bob dylan brought obama in the band shell groups in the moderate rebel government that insurance in corporate america nationals great flood to attack my family have you gotten all oh my god how do you know he's yours and so yeah there was a guy i just want to do it and it didn't sell and they don't know if i want to do it when i wrote for the blog on facebook i should

tell people was out there that some things are funny things i heard obama was in my house shooting hoops a lot is hanging from his wife i have bob dylan have all these things happening but also there's a lot of information on how to do a femur and how you were where you need to go to find things to dry out a basement and that was in there is well done in a very its satire filled forman well we set out from this book as if the town floods and run out of the fascination with the visionary japanese been my pleasure to have all of you here that you were watching and dancing and author award own words reading