A Word on Words; 3203; Jack Isenhour

welcome to a word on words i guess jack eisenhower the author of saying i'd ever and janna welcome jack the words saying i given channel is a book about bobby knight would buy the knight coached you you may be one of the few people who have you know that and survive and well yeah gives us about also lola oh boy did notice me on inaccurate only in your is the exterminator and then when a lot of the bible in an axon buy you a guide joe that's when i was going off the bench was expendable and back the same night the original and your television documentary an award winning television documentary a year later and i'm in art is not out whether this is a new art form it's a different medium <unk> about very briefly about when you thought it was a challenge to move into the report in this form it was typical early on was always written for television and so well first our work you're

always thinking about the same way you think about television but john the visuals so you have to write the visuals so i took a lot of photographs and so i thought about was what's a money when i considered from an answer the only insured you know and that was the first part of that last part that when i got to the west point's covering a lot more comfortable with not by sweden a television script because the first fifty pages of this is a way you write for television except what they called the roll which is videos my den seven o'clock and if i was writing describing what the bureau were banned one lesson and arresting a it's interesting cause about this as we work together on television programs for the freedom for him and for a long time but some great work and wondered how you approach that many people who know about

bob i don't think about at night and west point i mean it's almost an obscure part of whose career and and but you know if you're going understand bobby knight but the hard nosed hard shale twelve this marion the guy who joked people to get out on the isle of those years across the floor you understand him unless you understand where sport is that for i think that's true i mean even our one thinking so much about that were started the book is just how until story of my teammates from iraq but when you start looking at you start to understand what neither he is and i wanted to be the toughest guy was born he won in close to be an idea that that was an aspiration well i come across a meals on that

remember i would've thought this before i knew you'd go to prevent was one either i think of the west i think if he were at west point today he still be coaching without any question about his conduct i am more hampered by knowing that there was a guy there a couple years ago that was basically about my clone and iran and all i think the academy has changed quite a bit and over thirty years and they're a lot more touchy feely if you can use that same census was not and i didn't have that and there were thirty years ago and of iran this golf because he was quote to perform thriller so you think by night would not of the current west point and as he did not survive and i don't know if that's a good question their

superintendents up their chains like every three or four years you get a new president says the sudanese president was of the universe you've got a new guy recruit for years and you know there's different night and day is in their philosophies so i don't know we were going to survive or not it over the first fifty pages of the book in the first fifty pages of the book the first few pages of books open with your request for an interview with bobby knight's organ like this book brought about his life work and i lived was born in indiana and beyond so you go to this hourly of the famous or infamous gospel and sort of charity were at indiana end and he'd been bobby knight you have in ireland now the pursuer but you're careful before you i mean you've been around the livelong of them all the beginning of the interview poitras and so you're playing bobby knight would you not play you all

know and he does things like say so we're going to let you know when a pickup and mourning nun beauty of them on our use in later the golf tournament but that that got to absolutely than a metaphor i think journalism did it with bobby knight rider didn't win but as you point out the devil i don't know his contempt for most of the wiser i think that he's just saying things in the paper which which reporters do we reporters do what they're doing that they're not the way he sees that a wonderful novel things to come out talking with him is he didn't understand why grab and that kid biden is like the thing if i got him fired as he was going to say we all went out to the basketball arena where this kid is coming out to out to go on time is going gets as a night instead it mr leiter a coach might grab samples inside lectures him and this is what eventually got him fired nih doesn't understand why this

grab and this kid make the sports page of every newspaper in the country and made sports or even understand that that this huge stereotype that he's built over over the last thirty years anything the fees that stereotype is going to be a loose but he sees it as an isolated incident so he gets very angry you know one other one that when it was reported they got angry when they report a thing ben braddock it by the throat it and stay while it's news it's amazing to me that a guy can be in the newspapers for his entire lifetime not understand what story because you have a quota you have a good early says the from him i have all ways been to thunderous you especially when i knew i was right yeah well you never think rove exactly brian dugan they're trying to somebody else much different because right on

the hyatt the other thing about him that many people forget is that you this one area and he is off right and he does he does play games with with the academic the structure points you make the point that there was a void he would find ways to get breaks for the cadets who played for him that were outside the order of discipline you couldn't go far but he would work to try to get to make it possible for his kids to to be able to practice or maybe on a trip enjoy an election time on a wooden get otherwise and you come to away with a sense that most employers and play for at west point at indiana most of them look back on it as a great parent yeah

that's true the connection between night in the quote special privileges for athletes i'd ever made that connection i mean there's the big data does everything which is again in general john general well that's right and it denied it and then let joel roth night would've been in deep trouble yes body was night and guides boys one of whom was an all american that he was giving giving break let's talk about that all american that that all american and that team on watch you play what all americans again mike silva and he was of local kentucky and when he was a high school senior courtney coach and it was the best high school player in the country and fifty five schools or recruiting him including kentucky which at that time was the school or you know the real indiana duke all all thrown together the funny story about it over oak trying to recruit him if it's an anti mullet enlightenment mother did not live it all wrong rob gay men until those solos will your boys are real horse

real real for refuse anything less sunlight horse is a lot about it not exactly sure but that was special there were special there were three the players on that they would make some noise all american teen was mike solon from will know as a guy named bill helped you from south bend and third was a kid named billy shots came from new jersey and there were tremendous basketball players notably anywhere they deploy anywhere and they played in it and they played in it and they played in it and there was champagne community and the outstanding now planning a conglomeration of oil that was in there gary takes locker was the head coach before bob not recruited mike solon and to this day their rise going at it is that and he was a great student and a devout catholic and a great athlete all rolled into one and he was very interested in getting a good

education as well as playing basketball but basketball was born those guys which is you know another sport like what crosses something early couldn't go to go the arena rock and they'd walk in and night finally took part of the wave rock away from them for basketball because they did put basketball on the map they did it became the number two sport up their will lust for from cadets and from the administration for that matter traveled about this general because he's he thinks he's so unique i don't believe i don't believe that if you look at any of the major football game of basketball game outside the military academies the apostle of fun so an industry like that who would survive very long and the interesting thing is the demands were on those students to produce and at the same

time i mean thirty is academically work as well as athletically end there was no academic cheating though would be tolerated on the other hand when someone got drunk and i mean scott brown right the downtrodden general came through and it is a wild my client had not been involved in the taste law who had just stepped down as head coach to my manager and i wouldn't then said he was involved in a jail overnight wasn't all know it gets said the general was and all the videos and online and this guy had been was a force was glass it was mike and thirty eight which mean academically was first this class he played baseball he played beating football or basketball you have but his favorite sports was basketball and at his nickname was long mile journey from his baseball and he was a guy that night said did what needed to be done they always said it was boy has been absolutely and totally rigid

and i did until i sort of funny about fun about this good general but his name and he was the dean of academic board anyone coming on the superintendent is essentially the president enters the number two guy in charge or rotating every three years but general general was there for moderation and he was said to be the most powerful when it was born so he was done now what was best for mike selman but what was best for the military academies he sought here is as world class athlete this great student this great good anyone go lose in gaza got dropped any other cadets had been made that work for only on a heartbeat our van gaal in a gallows with and that may get very worried and i gather was with him on his drunken rampages at night again a breezy mr says this day you know we'd been our goal of independence referendum so for those you just am talking to jack as an hourly and author of same night dear and gentle on the same

night about midnight same night at bobby knight who was at the point and then goes to indiana us go back to that that's their inner dr zane where where you're chasing light for an interview that scene from the point showed up in force for the golf tournament there were more than you would let me watch all unusual coming together night and he was on the verge of being in trouble right there he was supposed to be on good behavior at that point what it was that your dollars was already enforces your talents was unfortunate let's talk about how that happened to go that's part of the story that you pursue on and much of this focus is on that almost three years at west point which led to those three great and it championship runs in march of two thousand and a kid then you read what do sports also espn sports or for sale and as i and i was a television story about a mighty joe camel or practice so weird for this

cause an uproar and then the people in the area versa be serenaded investigation so i spent seven weeks investigating night's behaviors mostly just be replaced are with him ended up investigating everything he'd done as you know twenty nine years and indiana making up with a list of a pattern of troubling behavior so my fifteenth of two thousand to the present university mouse brandon is congress announce a zero point zero tolerance policy and the night was the dean of two parts on that one he couldn't drive inappropriate physical contact with somebody and secondly we was representing university had to do with appropriate decorum and civility so that was zero tolerance policy so we got to indiana for the indiana classic golf tournament about a month after this thing had been put in force so knives and no mood that's to say he wasn't at the gap you know one of things i love about the book is not just your sort of

embody it is you're a caustic comments for some found one word for in a homophone relating at our night is insensitive to the obvious or how those who miss ration is hypocritical in its dealings with the night were i mean sometimes it's the issue we're all we're aren't let's say that again but it made ads that dimension to the book that both leno about an hour of the world might i congratulate john about it it makes the book a lot more fun to read and i must say you treat them both with equal disdain both night and the people who got biden in trouble i tried to do it got himself in trouble if they enforced a ban of course a zero carb tolerance policy was violet would read that kid was your low in september a newly fired and you know several employers that sold for a new insulin up

to it and just for a month but let me say one thing about that was the one thing that does not feel like i'm doing in the book is you get two giant pr machines operation one is the indiana university pr machine millions of bob knight pr machine and whenever they start spinning things i tried a point though we didn't want and at plaza said he pointed out the glove are equal disdain years me on but when i think about my night these days i do wonder how he has survived the irrepressible and he is a great coach you know a great coach he's one of those great coaches and like so many who insists on his athletes living up to academic obligations if they don't play form they don't they don't do schoolwork more where does

that come from i don't know where they come from the course it was born to not worry about could this cookbook like it's your party been issued shepherd for that night there was a whole core of people thought they were there i don't know where it came from i don't know fred taylor was that was like it is coach and honestly i don't know where that came from when when he goes to indiana it's clear a verb they don't know what they're getting right they know that he's been always good coach because he has produced way also had talent recruited by this process which goes there and early on it's clear you make a name from so have the university the korean edition you are out of the ice and they loved him because of his waiting sure it went almost they walked in but the thing about night is i think common wrong about this i think is hearts and write

plays and i think that's what was going up or that was born is that this guy is intense if comparative its hard charging what he's trying to do is win basketball games within the rules and get the players to play as hard as they can possibly apply as well as i can possibly apply what was the book uses the coaches reach exceeds suppliers caress your eighteen year old that not work hard they don't know what we're dedicated means no moderate appointing they part of what he relies on investors will succeed is defense lawyer i never lobello about l l l l and tell me where you came from i mean i can i give him credit card rallying to the defense of genius of the day right he came out saint mary's of elizabeth new jersey high school where knight says he won seven high school

championships case lot new about anti slaughtered are perceived not new but in the summer is an american and a basketball game where the rewards scouting for different college teams and when tights took over as head coach at west point he wanted to do a pressure defense which the tournament will bow bow and then deliver years and he had a system to teach you so yellow bow bow to come up there and show about a duo a little about will actually become an assistant coach at west point and he was this damon runyon character i'm a thick glasses thick bronx accent can use it and he was a guy that like you're really just a great guy to addressing the mayhem a great coaches arm and basketball are basketball players but not great basketball players and sometime not even really good basketball players and night is one of the mri right he was not didn't do well was that but you know the jury lucas and john have check are there few people were

done well but bp they say that ironically could not played even have a check shows up in your book men talk about him a little bit of good news and those loyal and well the great thing is again yeah well you know when they graduated i would you know i'd also asked it how it just takes off for boston sept the night goes to cuyahoga falls or silver five dj the basket book so night city has some to prove that he hadn't done as well as our state my view wanted to prove that with chicken lucas and anybody else now have it and how much is a van drive to quote show people were show piers shall press joe flynn show ever by how much of that is responsible for it ms

gondor only misconduct that the quote away on the line but did for my yard run and i think the timbre is a separate that you know these are driving coach a tough guy who's willing to whoever is necessary to win basketball and that's one time and people will argue and so you know that's why things are done that's where the world is you have to be tough nobody tried to defend his temper and that's at that thing that every couple years we'll do something and that's what mike set long list of you know my incidents increase a stereotype or a lot of voters out there that number i'm a loser temper in public we were we were we really are taking this and nationally momentum university and for our audience there is a wonderful man a bill story night brings yorktown want to play

here against the a great and building would gladly right and guard the us a garden and you felt were who didn't score much are in jerri mar soda bottled about that day and ago the other is one exciting moment in a book well we got we came in urbana both liked i think free by a upi voice and fifty by ap nationally that won their southeastern conference a year before they're planning quietly use six nine i haven't was everybody's all american he was a tremendous basketball i was great pro player you know what blows so again an air ticket for the christmas time at the vanderbilt and the patient and for teams would play them until the first round there were five about fifteen point so coach knight decided that well you know this plant is going to kill us and we would double team offered an injury southward with jerry saltz would the year before it

like good shot like twenty forty percent for the year there was for five points a game in that and that year we played and the only shot like eighteen pounds in four games it was like a point guard so we'll double south wouldn't stop quietly well finally went through for twelve but he's still waiting for scalia twelve hour show ask yourself would you like and like twenty three points and a green itself the government has gotten the kill this effort itself then building a big news but important to their work it wasn't your typical play the coaches do and then later near lighted sign thirty one the day the jerry saltz would kill us and yet actually killed an extremely polite i think it was it was western in the finals when the file annual one survey found a weekend with are boys because what's so exciting

i was exciting moment in your life well about a minute left what's going to happen about the night where he is now what's your judgment and you look closely now you know that you didn't write for this book of mormon once you drive from only talk to people you know you've talked to people know them all went back to the point and what sense mr nolan today which can happen can to control his temper kenny make it is texas big enough to help by the night well i think he's going well first your dinner was twenty three games in an expected them to do nothing goes he lost a bunch of players who could recruit others because as a double or regulations still e waste we forget is npr but don't expect it never loses temper been i think at some point we'll be done just go absolutely nuts and it'll be fine you think that you think that players assistant coaches an administration

we didn't break the first time he blows i think his heart's in the right voice and i think that's what people over the years who have been close to him i give him a break we'll do that that we run out we've been talking to jack eisenhower the author of the same night different channel for a word or john johnson and go to the jury