A Word on Words; 2332; Winston Groom

a word on words the program delving into the world of books and their authors this week's winston groom talks about shrouds of lower your host for or downwards mr jon seaton dollar chairman of the freedom forum's first amendment center at vanderbilt university hello i'm john simko welcome once again to word on words a real treat for you a real treat for year winston groom author of forrest gump welcome to word on words of the year jon oh is it great to have you back and write any talking this time about the new book trout of glory it's a change of place a remarkable change of pace i mean nobody knew as rayon for scott nobody who has seen tom hanks as forrest gump will really made me understand this change pace and maybe won't understand how writer can be fast food in and in one look create a remarkable

fictional character then come back and do a work of history that reads like a book of fiction and makes real characters from the past come alive well at what doses of other blessing or a curse i think early on who you are how are they could be the booksellers in publishers really by aged couple aged adults and look over and over again i don't find that particularly interesting and so it's a funny story about longo was at california for the dough and dozens of the job we want an automaton i made you know when i'm out of the regional flavors and how that and he said well for the rest of our lifetime of what i'd do the play macbeth or if i was once a lariat i'm always going to be remembered as forrest gump at seventy one years old

the oregon cheap comedy club on sunset affordable thirty shots as the world you know thank you roy directed by their ways usually beyond thought ha ha job that pop up and to bury it but you know honestly the vision i find out i love writing fiction and it's my passion and over a number of models of racially of i found that that it emotionally isn't that somewhat writing and you attack dog healthcare and so sometimes when i finish a fiction book another don't have another novel and has been shown going to they'll get what water and nonfiction that other bidders for a harbinger of europe pay the bills that carefully and outside refreshing and a confession

i can work maybe two hours a day and most often what they're very intentional with nonfiction literary work eight ten thousand but it's not so intense disagreements research journal that i enjoy the change apply to this when it outsourced water are thrown free curve balls actually you know and this book shrubs and more on the weekend so you all live in love with the same problem that's exactly right and then this is the place of the new book what has been called by standing on the decisive battle of national you get a great grandfather in the five to six alabama and he told tales of a wall on the great civil war you father and i am then and

he's so it hangs on a wall and then one day you discovered a metal box in the attic and pages of the news of the great grandfather from their dedicated to put a lid on it too my thing twenty four everyone starling for pre modern four and he went what janet jones on an atv was well known bar the fall of the fall of the war ninety those sections of dead dead fifteen seventeen years and actually if youre working that i write you like in the song or in some ancient thing but it's not the main my father knew the man by ancestor who fought in that war and not in this particular battle but it's early in this campaign and when you open the show boxy and they're always well as the pension reforms were particularly interested in the

reconstruction government and the union did not permit the southern states pay pensions to the confederate soldiers for long term but subsequently they did they made after reconstruction that went on solving for june and vowing that you mentioned forging about ten dollars a month and that the reforms would the title and their one of their work what the image is served with whole you what bylaws did you find and describe your participation where you won't will you keep algae itself here and the white bowl and very own for this picture of somebody who well i did not know when my dad and his blog marginal nine am that was intimated us about the washer one of a book and so is not a book about him this book about that i had always wanted to do a history of pre

well grounded in the civil war history have been since high school at noble gun but studies on that and the difficulty in doing so war history us around is that the bones have been that really claim him most especially one more popular and say well known for and bought out all our sons out that we shall be secure before its narrative history in today's debate about national forest it's been a lot of them or killing is basically a sideshow edge of a big show but that alarm but it always struck me i remember thinking that the son joel at nashua whole lot of people killed at it and that was the charges were away the underbrush myself in and research missions four years ago i guess and they just are crucial issue boy you're really that uncovering layers of peeling layers of

getting deeper deeper deeper i spent many an hour here in nashville at the art of billionaire boss aren't those the most cooperative people that you could find in the la brasilia most of whales that any historical nightmare every award for non fiction should be well aware of his was wonderful <unk> system where i can sit at home for their beloved reply clear alabama plays an oreo awaited to there would be a bunch of microphone or books that were on that one book from the original show alice at the ocean it nine which was cordial whether brown the visual version of a colleague reprieve from two lasky to know asheville by levi's go freely was not generals gopher was rejected that it was signed by him when he related to john nabors build

all if i were you i would be careful who over the law on this is the role of his europe because i'm somebody and but the thing these people they will search insurgents ocean previously on what people that i don't think that belief that you have to go to practically every labrie that might contain anything about anything and spent much money and many hours is hurting for worse with those are religious visions your it comes to read it you send it back so you know the most fascinating to me about the drug war ii is the your ability to make historical characters come alive and there are some phenomenal characters and in this book just might set a timeframe for for the people who are looking in were talking about eighteen sixty four

mei you really begin with a baptism in may and you go through until the summer which is which is today about natural and in between there is the is the battle battle of atlanta forward that is a traditional long way from maybe somebody that's exactly right and i had a callous to our viewers that that you make people come alive but that opening scene of the baptism of john bell a jumble by another general bishop be honest no is phenomenal i mean i had never heard about that baptism didn't know that the america was the hooded lost along with discomfort it with on which other half a man they have a man and that and that to an end general bishop folk were socialist dozens wounded well the story is a wonderful world i almost think in the dark recesses of my mind

that that's why i began the story there because a baptism scene was so powerful to me like a bigoted but that that's actually not so but it is myself of it sometimes but there was a wave of revival isn't that ran through they confirm the bachelor was so when the republican led those who want our i think might have had something to do with the fact that confirmed cause was that this point last year's i was just about to point though anybody's guess one reason it might just want to get what we got to do i was that this was going to be about a war sprawl with a less campaign war but going to belgium or from an oral and a show devoted to pause hood was madly in love with and in fact engage to borrow for young girl from richmond and fun

not being about just let that go in the center not take communion in the church i don't know that in those days that was the nail bed grabs was but for reasons you had this amazing same in a chapel hill which as has been described in various wasn't going to you know bishop gentle pope who was a corps commander who a month later was blown nearly in half by campbell how about tesla museum or for a play all that and a gigantic general hood who had been horribly mutilated lost his leg was on my belly gettysburg couldn't stand me all and bishop wrote saying good strong gentle please just this set of ads said i don't know about on a paraphrase it can't be legal but new orleans all that i have actually been spent on

crutches but phenomenal story and what the book is chock full of laos towards an end and you make the book come alive i mean in the story about moves it flows it live every skirmish i was fascinated to learn and i have not ever heard this that the judge owen wilson west point or salmon was tutored and mathematics by john scofield we mention long ago and you say oh there that there were moments and warns go for you was gone and then ruin anyone and willie willie should move to new normal and i think still feel that inside track going into it had to be today there's evidence that he said to show that there is not much to

fear as fort hood's mental capacities but he did say however you'll get you know and you had to like heal that's judge without many have on the other side of william tecumseh sherman the scourge of atlanta and it's you know you're the way you set up an ad over in virginia we know that grant war is pretty much come to a stalemate me as a republican in a lake and you quote lincoln maybe in october a saying we probably don't lose the selection i'll be turning over this office somebody else in your head towards the issue which you get grant moving enrichment risen far more vigorous and lee and then you got sherman in the same situation focusing on land bogged down because he came in washington to go ahead and he really wants to tear the place taylor place of pardon and insurance an interesting fellow

eu you point out that in one point five years earlier events and home to kentucky because they thought he was crazy stark raving man well some of the press i wouldn't say a million roma ratings are never quite got to the bottom and promising you might call a nervous breakdown or that means the letter along with some weeks and he was undergoing do a project that he was basically accused of being stars during my head because he had the temerity to inform thousand washington and in his opinion it was going to take a half a million union troops to subdue the most about that tortoise was inside and for sherman was borne out entirely in the un our children are going to get help he was a man ahead of his time in my opinion for his

potential part of its own brand warfare that really was the quote with a certain notable exceptions on china in solar rewards the carpet bombing actually was your story from a while ended federal capacity of the civilian population was what germany german to do and that well some people his motive so he says that it had the inability was this will bring the war to an end more quickly are they perceive early on well before when he was actually a the commandant all in charge of the department there in memphis tennessee before that bird that it was the entire south that the north is warring with it wasn't just a bad rebels which is what many people in the north believed that that was a big body man woman child

grandfather grandmother all mixed up in some death and sherman silber appointed these people must be suppressed you know it's interesting that you say that because in a real sense he was right you tell in their own story about nathan bedford forrest in trouble and a little mr jaffe it comes to the rescue tell that story from phenomenal anecdote gives him the insight to the charlotte fear that was sent to a little town near against a melbourne forbidden place that would describe helen forrest gump i was being pursued and her mom and i and forty page book but that when the word a forest needed

over oak creek i think would go black or even some of the forum he couldn't find and those younger women that when fifteen years old agreed to take em to the uniform and thought it was was found afford college troops of bullets were willing or around them and the troops go across forced to go back to el doctor offered by some got started about you and opposing the cabs of things i don't know about it and so many books and those two words these details get left out other and because they don't seem to fit the train historians and they are of history tom especially the same textbooks history which is all of the candidates didn't say who was a mock commercial fish for years

on i found that that being a novelist how many innocent my job is telling stories is just the story chubby true story is one reason we're so few novels about the civil war that the truth is so much more powerful than any fiction you can make up why bother i try to make those gases the reader friendly in the sense that a lot of history's special assistant editor and mortar thats a warrior you almost need be directly well grounded in the subject you won't get the book that i wasted a lot of time and maybe some person's senses by trying to set to sign up so that a person who is not necessarily the sorbonne forty form a scar it read it enjoyed on so that sometimes conversation and criticism

from a small core of one small core of the academic community in touch with that because they i do not understand how a man who forced no automatic to encroach on the arab world that is the world all and author of i would say of our day and you would not get from a warlord academics writing about a soul about over the love story that you get from drugs or running a love affair with bach was this is not new to the world that you're no that sentence or purchase of the scenarios we've been publicly owned but to find it woven into now because his plan i wondered when you outlined his plan heather nashville then try to move in a kentucky try to go into virginia come down on laurence

backside even billions of the reasons americans right and ultimately when you said he was going to go into virginia this game going to gym virginia and relieve leonardo i know about bach i know what i know the magnet in virginia know op ed that he would be alone not that you know it's interesting all week we found one photograph and this was a picture research and work both the picture was not well thought of that in the song oregon plays in this auction so we use the bus tomorrow the sea was said today by their chest out at other people want both beautiful young girl's russian jews eighteen years old when a belle of the ball got back from all of the descriptions of it just luck tuition is wonderful you could think about customers absolute model for

<unk> the nation as she was she was a flirt and she was smart very quick quick word in court where automatic almost and it could well then margaret mitchell read the chestnut there isn't that they've issued additional but no others for that but bipartisan committee was first made here again you know rural after great for my oldest ten am and getting subways with each other's jugular became engaging gates a poor man isn't as a couple my hand and one leg and one on thursday hero for general is about the north and fight the battle of his career and let's not spoil and the real world dad but now we're going to

examine how to get the outcome of that great romance and it's a and it's a story that the money to build a movie around that romance alone maybe it some real essence not to do that while the battle a battle in nashville i'm and as we know from her from history here came to show there's about a franklin you like to relate that that the story of the photographs in the book are remarkably show the face at the face at the face of these genes they use play that role as the house carbon or all of confederate generals stretched out franklin was a winner of the prize huge to the ultimate defeat what i think was it was well at that war was the source of that was frightened directives on what he did there's no walker this is good and i try to stay away from there

it's a whopping four white boats they first to get the service that they want to but i just always want tell a story because i thought that he had been told quite this way and seven auto quite sometime in the retelling but justice so what was going on there was this attorney general thomas little success we defeat him and then press on other and in the north will also of ironic or go by moment when you might they will throw some weight into the political discussions in a letter to this and had been really on thomas' up in nashville here with a very disorganized group the only real a group on a groupie have the gentle scofield who went there in the face of a numbered scoville considerably go from abroad had one for

photo a diverse a scheme here is undoing at columbia he ordered general steven levy who had one of his close to hold still feel a little tour while he could with his other two are because sneaked around the flight of the dough still thrill in his army led by general nathan bedford forrest thought that would they were going to buy them all in spring hill was a lonely one wrote a poem to what went right you know the solution worked on allow about a national joint run straight up a road and so the result was a double that spring hill very complicated when parliament it didn't do it but they failed to buy a big silver alarming more like clenched the norwegian side of it were so end of the war operations was next

morning what the general said he was way i think a lot of us might get banned all the generals because the award things don't want done and why i try to get into that in the book but again why did you do it i can do it extremely well let's say an a set the whole story comes together because of the characters well you've been in the fiction or not even in their history and what's next well i just finished the last week sleeping before you're getting well sort of set our design both overall life i wanted to have a long term view winston groom author of shrouds of glory as ben our guest on a word un were heroes to then john sigg involve chairman of the freedom forum's first amendment center at vanderbilt

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